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OgreMkV



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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 28 2011,14:40   

Quote (Richardthughes @ Oct. 28 2011,14:00)
How many wrongs can you spot here:

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"To give another example, if evolution were a real science, biologists would be able to predict what the next species to evolve would be, as well as which population groups within a species were more evolved than the norm. "



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If statistics were a real math, statisticians should be able to predict the next throw of the craps dice and make millions in Vegas.  Since few statisticians are multimillionaires, statistics must not be real.

If engineering were a real science (heh), then engineers should be able to tell which of the 2012 model Ford cars are more different than the Model T.

How does this person function in the real world?

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Louis



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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 28 2011,14:50   

Clearly by waking up on Monday and knowing he won't die on Tuesday by predicting it scientifically.

Louis

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Henry J



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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 28 2011,17:54   

Quote (Richardthughes @ Oct. 28 2011,13:00)
How many wrongs can you spot here:

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"To give another example, if evolution were a real science, biologists would be able to predict what the next species to evolve would be, as well as which population groups within a species were more evolved than the norm. "



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Four.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 28 2011,18:56   

Quote (Henry J @ Oct. 28 2011,15:54)
Quote (Richardthughes @ Oct. 28 2011,13:00)
How many wrongs can you spot here:

 
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"To give another example, if evolution were a real science, biologists would be able to predict what the next species to evolve would be, as well as which population groups within a species were more evolved than the norm. "



?

Four.

Do we count "paying attention to VD's witterings in the first place" as one of the wrongs?

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Dr.GH



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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 29 2011,00:31   

Quote (Henry J @ Oct. 28 2011,15:54)
Quote (Richardthughes @ Oct. 28 2011,13:00)
How many wrongs can you spot here:

 
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"To give another example, if evolution were a real science, biologists would be able to predict what the next species to evolve would be, as well as which population groups within a species were more evolved than the norm. "



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Four.

I can make four, but are they the same four?

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Henry J



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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 29 2011,00:34   

What I counted:

"if evolution were a real science, " - this pretends that it isn't.
"biologists would be able to predict what the next species to evolve would be, " - the theory doesn't imply ability to predict that level of detail.
"as well as which population groups within a species " - same fallacy as in previous line.
"were more evolved than the norm. " - there's no such thing as "norm". (unless you're watching Cheers.)

(Although I suppose the 2nd and 3rd ones in that list could be considered duplicates; they just refer to different sized groups.)

Henry

  
OgreMkV



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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 29 2011,07:50   

Quote (Henry J @ Oct. 29 2011,00:34)
What I counted:

"if evolution were a real science, " - this pretends that it isn't.
"biologists would be able to predict what the next species to evolve would be, " - the theory doesn't imply ability to predict that level of detail.
"as well as which population groups within a species " - same fallacy as in previous line.
"were more evolved than the norm. " - there's no such thing as "norm". (unless you're watching Cheers.)

(Although I suppose the 2nd and 3rd ones in that list could be considered duplicates; they just refer to different sized groups.)

Henry

There's no such thing as 'more evolved' either.  'More evolved' implies that a population has a history that is longer than other populations.

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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 29 2011,11:34   

Quote (OgreMkV @ Oct. 29 2011,07:50)
Quote (Henry J @ Oct. 29 2011,00:34)
What I counted:

"if evolution were a real science, " - this pretends that it isn't.
"biologists would be able to predict what the next species to evolve would be, " - the theory doesn't imply ability to predict that level of detail.
"as well as which population groups within a species " - same fallacy as in previous line.
"were more evolved than the norm. " - there's no such thing as "norm". (unless you're watching Cheers.)

(Although I suppose the 2nd and 3rd ones in that list could be considered duplicates; they just refer to different sized groups.)

Henry

There's no such thing as 'more evolved' either.  'More evolved' implies that a population has a history that is longer than other populations.

If it is coupled with a specific point, "more evolved" can give us comparisons.  For example, which species is more evolved for climbing trees - sloths or whales?  Other then that, yeah, it's incoherent.

As for the original OP, the only mistake that I saw was Teddy trying to play as if he understands science.  With that mistake, everything he says is useless twaddle.

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Henry J



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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 29 2011,17:50   

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There's no such thing as 'more evolved' either.

I missed one? Shazbot!

Henry

  
the_ignored



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 10 2011,22:43   

Hah.  He finally admits that his commenting system over there is crap, but he couldn't find anything better.  


That bloody CoComment was the only thing on that site that I could not beat.  Maybe it's my browser, Opera, but I'm stubborn.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 07 2012,19:46   

Epic fight! FtK v. Spacebunny.

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the_ignored



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 30 2012,23:56   

Looks like he has another blog, more devoted to misogyny than anything, it looks like.

  
Louis



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 31 2012,13:32   

Quote (the_ignored @ Mar. 31 2012,04:56)
Looks like he has another blog, more devoted to misogyny than anything, it looks like.

Vox Day is an odious pissant of the first water. Or alternatively an odious pisswater of the first ant. Which must be pretty old and smelly by now. Either way, best avoided.

Louis

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the_ignored



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(Permalink) Posted: June 09 2012,05:55   

Looks like Voxy Toad has struck again, according to PZ Myers

  
olegt



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(Permalink) Posted: June 20 2012,12:10   

Antivaxxers are out in force today. In the comments section a hilarious nutter RobertT laments:
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Sometimes I think we would be better off if we burned all scientists at the stake. I am a big believer in research and observing patterns, but I am continually struck by the fact that out-and-out "science" is fraudulent, and every occupation or profession becomes more fraudulent as they get closer and closer to actual science. Perhaps the most honest professions are the least "scientific of all."

I notice people chatter about the details in these cases, but at some point everyone would be better served by backing up, taking a wider view and accepting what is surely obvious by now. Science, as it is practiced today, is pure bunk and more dangerous than dancing with rattlesnakes. And twice as deadly. The fat hypothesis has probably killed more people by now than any other cause since we started scratching our history on rocks and parchment.


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OgreMkV



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(Permalink) Posted: June 20 2012,12:47   

Quote (olegt @ June 20 2012,12:10)
Antivaxxers are out in force today. In the comments section a hilarious nutter RobertT laments:
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Sometimes I think we would be better off if we burned all scientists at the stake. I am a big believer in research and observing patterns, but I am continually struck by the fact that out-and-out "science" is fraudulent, and every occupation or profession becomes more fraudulent as they get closer and closer to actual science. Perhaps the most honest professions are the least "scientific of all."

I notice people chatter about the details in these cases, but at some point everyone would be better served by backing up, taking a wider view and accepting what is surely obvious by now. Science, as it is practiced today, is pure bunk and more dangerous than dancing with rattlesnakes. And twice as deadly. The fat hypothesis has probably killed more people by now than any other cause since we started scratching our history on rocks and parchment.

He said, while ironically using a computer and the internet, sitting in an air-conditioned house, eating processed food and planning for a trip (in a car, with a battery, internal combustion engine, modern tires, plastics, refined metals, etc) to the doctor (where he will take all his anti-biotics) and bitch about science.

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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 09 2013,13:29   

VD news: The Warmouse is no more.

The warmouse.com URL is now a generic placeholderish page; according to Internet Archive's archived copies of warmouse.com from different times, the website died sometime between 30 Oct 2012 (the latest archived copy with real content) and 23 Aug 2013 (the first archived copy immediately after the 30 Oct 2012 a.c., this one being a generic placeholderish page). No idea when, within that nine-month "window", the website went dark. Perhaps someone with greater internet savvy… and greater interest… than myself can narrow it down.

A moment of silence is due.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 09 2013,13:33   

Got Kinected?

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