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deadman_932



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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 05 2009,15:22   

And just to remind you of where you stand at the moment, Floaty:

1) The only reason you cited quotes from "evolutionists" or various forms of creationists was to back your Big Five Fantasies.

2) But, you admitted that Christians like the Pope remain Christians who also agree with evolution, even if they don't ever address your Big Five Fantasies.

3) That meant (and still means) your use of quotes is irrelevant, because no one ever has to address your BFF. Beyond which, opinions remain opinions, and it is all of science that excludes deistic supernaturalism as investigateable by science. When you were asked to produce any scientific research program for supernatural deistic causation or teleology, you failed, miserably.

4) You pretended that Gonzalez' crap was addressing supernatural causation when it's just the standard "fine tuning" argument that is filled with fallacies, obvious logical errors and no means of distinguishing supernatural agency from space-aliens from the planet Glarrgh

5) I didn't have to read Gonzalez' book to make the point that I just did, Floaty. Nor did I need to read gonzalez' book to make the additional points that I did about Gonzalez' claims (you supplied his "falsification" quotes  and he has a webpage and at least 3 interviews available online to look at his claims).

I posted my criticisms of Gonzalez' claims to you 7 full days ago, Floaty. YOU said that you would address them, and have failed to do so. Insisting that I read his book is just an excuse for you, Floaty -- as I said, you posted the material that I based my criticism on. YOU supplied it. Then I went and read his interviews online and his website. My criticisms still stand unaddressed by you because you can't address them.

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Lou FCD



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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 05 2009,15:32   

I'd just like to interject that the side conversations amongst the grownups are much more interesting than anything involving Floyd.

Let's not lose them in the train wreck.

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OgreMkV



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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 05 2009,15:34   

heddle is using the same arguements that he used in 2004 at Panda's Thumb.  I killed the link, but search in the archive for 'Priviliged Planet'.

You'd think in 5 years, someone would come up with a testable experiment to differentiate between a specifically designed universe and one that is not specifically designed.  

I also would like to point out that the first slide of Kuehn's powerpoint crituquing the book discusses how Christians should witness and bring up ID.  Then he trashes the book too.  

LOL

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Henry J



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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 05 2009,15:35   

Quote (Constant Mews @ Nov. 05 2009,14:14)
There are actually dozens of questions posed to you in good faith on this thread which you have ignored.

Not to mention the refutations of his claims that he also ignores, sometimes entirely, and sometimes by "addressing" a minor point from the same post.

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deadman_932



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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 05 2009,15:36   

Eh, Time's up,. Floyd. You have failed to act honestly and responsibly from the beginning of this thread, when you decided to break your agreements with me. You failed to support yur "evo and christianity are incompatible " for reasons posted multiple times .

You've failed to even TRY to answer my criticisms of Gonzalez.

That's enough.

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Lou FCD



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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 05 2009,15:36   

Say goodnight, Gracie.

100 pages is plenty of time for Floyd to make whatever case he intended to make, and plenty of evidence that he's not going to.

Interesting side conversations can be continued in relevant threads.

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