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Lou FCD



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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 23 2011,17:34   

Quote (afarensis @ Oct. 23 2011,17:44)
Depends on how one defines robust. I once made the mistake of agreeing with a creationist that modern humans are less robust than their evolutionary predecessors. I thought he was using the term in its anthropological sense, which is true. He, however, had a slightly different meaning for the word robust. More in line with this:


Nice call, afarensis.

 
Quote (forastero @ Oct. 23 2011,18:12)
except maybe the blue whale but one bigger will pop up sooner or later


Tardbucket.

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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 23 2011,17:34   

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Quote (afarensis @ Oct. 23 2011,16:19)
I am quite familiar with the paleontological and paleobiological literature and the only time the word explosion is ever used is in the context of the Cambrian. .But I accept your challange! Oh, snaps, nothing but the Cambrian explosion came up when I googled geological eras and explosions. Nothing came up for "Pliocene explosions" other than stuff about earthquakes and volcanoes. Ditto for Miocene.

jeanot was not saying that you were using "explosion" in the context of populations, rather, jeanot was pointing out that in the context of Pleistocene anthropology the word explosion is used exclusively in the literature to refer to demographic phenomena.

I would see your arguments on geo-cosmological orderly interactions except you haven't made any. You have made a few assertions, sans any evidence to back those assertions up, and posted a rather inaccurate picture of the earth's structure...

Are you sure you are familiar with this paleobiology because to the discerning mind, Jeannot's link is about population explosion? http://www.anthro.utah.edu/~rogers....608.pdf

Exactly what I said, jeanot was talking about population demographics, you were not. As I said in the context of Pleistocene anthropology explosion is always used in the context of populations. I did google all the other periods but, found nothing that supports your point.

Uh,,thats not my link. Its the only link that Jeannot "claimed" to be able to find after he googled "pleistocene explosion"

Its denial at its best but thanks guys for presenting your intellectual integrity to the cyber world

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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 23 2011,17:37   

This seems an appropriate link RE: Tardbucket.

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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 23 2011,17:39   

As does this.

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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 23 2011,17:41   

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Okay, define robust.

ha ha thats funny

Mass, density, etc etc..

So it is the creationist meaning of robust that your are referring to and not the scientific meaning then? Because in paleontology and paleoanthropology robust is not a measure of size.

thats so funny its sad

So not to look like the cop out that it is, why dont you provide the "anthropological" definition of robustness

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 23 2011,17:43   

do we really have a live one? after all this time? really? Can I pet it? If I pet it, it won't die will it? That always happens. That always happens and you always say it's not my fault, but it is. it is.

Can i pet it? cAn i?

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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 23 2011,17:45   

Quote (Lou FCD @ Oct. 23 2011,17:37)
This seems an appropriate link RE: Tardbucket.

Btw, only the eugenics or supremacist minded would constantly and publicly project the word tard

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 23 2011,17:46   

Quote (forastero @ Oct. 23 2011,18:45)
Quote (Lou FCD @ Oct. 23 2011,17:37)
This seems an appropriate link RE: Tardbucket.

Btw, only the eugenics or supremacist minded would constantly and publicly project the word tard

Cure your ignorance, Tardbucket.

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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 23 2011,17:50   

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To say that the earth follows uniformitarianism but cosmological forces do not is denying that cosmological processes effect the earth, Which is pseudoscience again.  
but then you also conform to a belief that the earth's non uniform spin obeys uniformitarianism without explaining how, again

If you were to study fossil man, you would know that man is much less robust than now as are so many other beasts

sigh... OK, I'll give you this one... there is a Uniformitarianism in terms of natural philosophy and one in geology.  

 
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earth's non uniform spin obeys uniformitarianism without explaining how, again


Because you obviously don't have a clue, the reason that the Earth's rotation is slowing is this big ass object that hangs over our heads all the time... you may have heard of it... the moon?  It's gravitationally coupled to the Earth.  It imparts some of it's motion on the Earth and the Earth imparts some of its motion on the moon.  Since the Earth is much more massive than the moon, the Earth slows only slightly, while the moon speeds up slightly more.  Because of some fundamental laws of motion, when the moon increases in velocity, it recedes from us ever so slightly.  [Note that this is a very basic explanation and should not be argued against.  The math can be found here, as well as evidence for all of the above.  Only arguments from that material will be accepted.]

Also note that this concept has been known since [URL=E Halley (1695), "Some Account of the Ancient State of the City of Palmyra, with Short Remarks upon the Inscriptions Found there", Phil. Trans., vol.19 (1695-1697), pages 160-175; esp. at pages 174-175.]1695.[/URL]  The correctly understood answer to the question of why this happens was established in the 1860s.

Given that, I can understand someone who argues this kind of point may not have ever heard of it.  Of course, taking 3 seconds to look up Wikipedia (while not an authoritative source, I generally consider it useful enough for these discussions) and then following the links in the 'references' section for a more complete understanding.

Here are some references for you
F.R. Stephenson, L.V. Morrison (1995): "Long-term fluctuations in the Earth's rotation: 700 BC to AD 1990". Philosophical Transactions of the Royal Society of London Series A, pp.165–202. doi: 10.1098/rsta.1995.0028
Jean O. Dickey (1995): "Earth Rotation Variations from Hours to Centuries". In: I. Appenzeller (ed.): Highlights of Astronomy. Vol. 10 pp.17..44.

Now that that is out of the way.

 
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If you were to study fossil man, you would know that man is much less robust than now as are so many other beasts


Assertion.  Cite evidence.

Define robust in terms of early man.
Show evidence that fossil man (define and give examples of) are less robust than modern man
Show evidence of any other species that is less robust now than the same species in pre-historical time

as well as the rest of the work you have
define homozygous
define heterozygous
describe the Cambrian explosion
define symmetry breaking (as relates to the begining of the universe)
define hyper-inflation
describe the endocrine notion of phenotype selection
define phenotype (include the other common -type and define that as well)
explain why you insist that evolution requires something that no scientist requires (fruit flies to dogs)
explain why you insist that evolution explain a process which cannot be affected by evolution (i.e. Origins of Life)
define species
show that mutation always results in the loss of genetic information (show the math and define information while you are at it)
evidence that the four fundamental forces of our universe change over time
Evidence that you understand when nucleosynthesis occurs with respect to the early universe.
Evidence that the magnetic field is weakening
Evidence that fruits and vegetables of today have lost large percentages of their mineral content over the last 50 years
Evidence that bones are becoming less dense.

Thus, you admit there is no uniformitarianism

I made it clear that I made a typographical error and humans are becoming less robust with time but I guess y'all need your straws

Plus, you insist that I go to wiki for definitions yet you cant even bother with looking up things like endocrine system, nucleosynthesis, human robustness, ect ect..

I never seen so many double standards from one cite in my life

No... can you read?

It admitted that uniformatarianism is a concept that is used in geology AND natural philosophy.  As such, it is not completely spelled out in cosmology, other than its role in natural philosophy.

However, what you fail to grasp, is that the two concepts are not the same.  You have also not objected to any of the examples I provided.

I sent you the Wikipedia links, because they are pretty good for your level of understanding, which is seriously lacking.  

You still haven't touched on anything on my list, except the definition of robust.
as well as the rest of the work you have
define homozygous
define heterozygous
describe the Cambrian explosion
define symmetry breaking (as relates to the begining of the universe)
define hyper-inflation
describe the endocrine notion of phenotype selection
define phenotype (include the other common -type and define that as well)
explain why you insist that evolution requires something that no scientist requires (fruit flies to dogs)
explain why you insist that evolution explain a process which cannot be affected by evolution (i.e. Origins of Life)
define species
show that mutation always results in the loss of genetic information (show the math and define information while you are at it)
evidence that the four fundamental forces of our universe change over time
Evidence that you understand when nucleosynthesis occurs with respect to the early universe.
Evidence that the magnetic field is weakening
Evidence that fruits and vegetables of today have lost large percentages of their mineral content over the last 50 years
Evidence that bones are becoming less dense.
[strike]Define robust in terms of early man.[/strike]
Show evidence that fossil man (define and give examples of) are less robust than modern man
Show evidence of any other species that is less robust now than the same species in pre-historical time

Oh, and you wanted an example where the modern form is more robust that the primitive form

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki....siensis

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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 23 2011,17:51   

Oh yeah,

what is your alternative explanation?

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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 23 2011,18:01   

Quote (oldmanintheskydidntdoit @ Oct. 23 2011,17:43)
do we really have a live one? after all this time? really? Can I pet it? If I pet it, it won't die will it? That always happens. That always happens and you always say it's not my fault, but it is. it is.

Can i pet it? cAn i?

Evidently forastero is so stupid he thinks saying the most words is winning the debate.

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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 23 2011,18:18   

Quote (Tracy P. Hamilton @ Oct. 23 2011,19:01)
Quote (oldmanintheskydidntdoit @ Oct. 23 2011,17:43)
do we really have a live one? after all this time? really? Can I pet it? If I pet it, it won't die will it? That always happens. That always happens and you always say it's not my fault, but it is. it is.

Can i pet it? cAn i?

Evidently forastero is so stupid he thinks saying the most words is winning the debate.

in that he is not singular

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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 23 2011,18:24   

You know what I don't get...

Here he is and he obviously has some ideas, yet he won't actually talk about his ideas.

Here's his chance to get some serious feedback on these ideas of his, there are a number of Ph.D.s and gifted non-doctorates here who can review, point out mistakes, suggest alternative resources, etc...

And he's trying to argue that the Big Bang started by nuclear fusion.  

Is it any wonder these types are never taken seriously in the real scientific culture?

For example, his statement that 'the endocrine system selects the phenotype'.  We've asked dozens of times for an explanation.  A real scientist would be all over himself talking about it.  We probably couldn't get him to shut up about it, but not the creationist, he refuses to even link to articles to support it.

What's freaking hilarious is that I, after 5 seconds on google and about 20 minutes of reading, probably know more about it than our friend here.

For example, the research here of embryologic development in birds.http://rstb.royalsocietypublishing.org/content/363/1497/1635.full

I'll point out that the endocrine system doesn't SELECT the phenotype, but may regulate the EXPRESSION of the phenotype.  There is a huge difference, not that I expect forastero to understand that.

For example, in humans, the sex of the offspring is directly related to the presence of the Y chromosome.  Allowing exceptions for chromosomal mutations, there is no environmental change that can change the sex of the offspring once conception happens.  Of course, this is not true for many reptile species, where the sex of the offspring is dependent on the temperature of the egg during development.

I'm very curious, forastero, how you deal with similar developmental issues in organisms that do not have endocrine systems... since they are the great majority of live on the planet.

Of course, what's really funny is in these various papers, the assumption is that species evolve and through a variety of mechanisms.  So, forastero, does evolution happen?  If it happens at all, then simple time will ensure the development of species and greater divisions.  Your only solution is to deny that evolution happens at all... in which case, this entire argument is a moot point.

BTW: Here's an interesting diagram and information, that may seem to support forastero at first glance, but it still doesn't actually support his claim that the endocrine system selects the phenotype.  http://jme.endocrinology-journals.org/content/46/1/R11/F1.expansion.html

Influence expression, sure.  Influence phenotype, no, can't happen.  And that's why, forastero, that I keep wanting you to define phenotype.  Because once you do, then you will see that the endocrine system CANNOT SELECT THE PHENOTYPE.

Hint: When is the phenotype of an organism expressed?

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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 23 2011,18:43   

Quote (forastero @ Oct. 23 2011,17:45)
Quote (Lou FCD @ Oct. 23 2011,17:37)
This seems an appropriate link RE: Tardbucket.

Btw, only the eugenics or supremacist minded would constantly and publicly project the word tard

Tard, as refers to you and your ilk, is actually an acronym:

The
Argument
Regarding
Design

Is it a bit crude?  Yes.  Is it intended as a perjorative?  Yes.  Is it intended to associate you with the (involuntarily) mentally handicapped, or to insult the mentally handicapped?  No.  

So please do climb down off your cross.

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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 23 2011,19:02   

Quote (forastero @ Oct. 22 2011,10:52)
Hmm speaking of explosions, there are also all the explosions of life such as the Cambrian explosion, Ordovician explosions, Silurian explosion, Devonian explosions, carboniferous explosions, Triassic explosion, Jurassic explosion, Cretaceous explosion, Paleocene explosion, Eocene explosion, Oligocene  explosion, Miocene explosion,  Pleistocene explosions.

Are these the explosions you are thinking of?
Great Ordovician Biodiversification Event
Silurian Period
Life of the Devonian
Climate and the Carboniferous Period

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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 23 2011,19:15   

Quote (paragwinn @ Oct. 23 2011,17:02)
 
Quote (forastero @ Oct. 22 2011,10:52)
Hmm speaking of explosions, there are also all the explosions of life such as the Cambrian explosion, Ordovician explosions, Silurian explosion, Devonian explosions, carboniferous explosions, Triassic explosion, Jurassic explosion, Cretaceous explosion, Paleocene explosion, Eocene explosion, Oligocene  explosion, Miocene explosion,  Pleistocene explosions.

or these?
Fossil insects and associated plants from the Late Triassic Molteno Formation of South Africa
SHARKS HAVE BEEN AROUND FOR MORE THAN 450 MILLION YEARS
Paleoenvironments of the Jurassic and Cretaceous Oceans: Selected Highlights
The Jurassic: The Mammal Explosion - History and Analysis of the Discovery Today Challenging the Conventional View of Our Ancestors from the Early Jurassic Onward
Dinosaurs and the Cretaceous Terrestrial Revolution

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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 23 2011,19:41   

Quote (paragwinn @ Oct. 23 2011,17:15)
 
Quote (forastero @ Oct. 22 2011,10:52)
Hmm speaking of explosions, there are also all the explosions of life such as the Cambrian explosion, Ordovician explosions, Silurian explosion, Devonian explosions, carboniferous explosions, Triassic explosion, Jurassic explosion, Cretaceous explosion, Paleocene explosion, Eocene explosion, Oligocene  explosion, Miocene explosion,  Pleistocene explosions.

or any of these?
THE PALEOCENE EPOCH
Evidence for a Paleocene Evolutionary Radiation
Ancient dolphins – the fossil record
Equidae
The Pleistocene and the Origins of Human Culture

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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 23 2011,23:20   

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Okay, define robust.

ha ha thats funny

Mass, density, etc etc..

Hahaha, oh wow.

The concept of island dwarfism disagrees

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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 24 2011,00:32   

Quote (forastero @ Oct. 23 2011,17:20)
Hmm..you guys sure are taking a long time to find a robust critter

the horse?

the blue whale?
EDIT: given the billion of species that existed I'm pretty sure you can find an ancestor that was more robust than a extant descendent... or weaker. Depends on which ancestor you pick.

What's your point?

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 24 2011,00:44   

Quote (forastero @ Oct. 23 2011,17:34)
Uh,,thats not my link. Its the only link that Jeannot "claimed" to be able to find after he googled "pleistocene explosion"

Its denial at its best but thanks guys for presenting your intellectual integrity to the cyber world

btw, Primitive ego-defenses include, projection, denial, dissociation or splitting and they are called borderline defense mechanisms. Also, devaluation and projective identification are seen as borderline defenses. Projection is attributing your own repressed thoughts to someone else. The conceptualization of splitting defines an ego that allows reality to be both acknowledged and denied. Splitting is a defense mechanism present in all narcissists .

"Primitive ego-defenses include, projection, denial, "
Projecting much?
You mentioned some "pleistocene explosions", but you didn't have clue. It's ok, you can admit it. Everyone makes mistake.  (If talking out of one's a$$ is a mistake.)
Are you blaming us for your inability to post a web link? Are you being repressed by our denial?

You'd better reply to that with your examples of "pleistocene radiations", if you want to earn some respect here. But I guess the martyr position is more comfortable.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 24 2011,02:23   

Quote (OgreMkV @ Oct. 23 2011,17:50)
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You still haven't touched on anything on my list, except the definition of robust.
as well as the rest of the work you have
define homozygous
define heterozygous
describe the Cambrian explosion
define symmetry breaking (as relates to the begining of the universe)
define hyper-inflation
describe the endocrine notion of phenotype selection
define phenotype (include the other common -type and define that as well)
explain why you insist that evolution requires something that no scientist requires (fruit flies to dogs)
explain why you insist that evolution explain a process which cannot be affected by evolution (i.e. Origins of Life)
define species
show that mutation always results in the loss of genetic information (show the math and define information while you are at it)
evidence that the four fundamental forces of our universe change over time
Evidence that you understand when nucleosynthesis occurs with respect to the early universe.
Evidence that the magnetic field is weakening
Evidence that fruits and vegetables of today have lost large percentages of their mineral content over the last 50 years
Evidence that bones are becoming less dense.
[strike]Define robust in terms of early man.[/strike]
Show evidence that fossil man (define and give examples of) are less robust than modern man
Show evidence of any other species that is less robust now than the same species in pre-historical time

Oh, and you wanted an example where the modern form is more robust that the primitive form

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki.......siensis

Don't distract him!  I think I speak for everyone here (well, ok, maybe just 'Ras) when I want to hear more about his theory that coprophagy proves design.
   
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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 24 2011,03:26   

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Poopoo for instance is a derivative but one that both abides by the laws of the designer and enhances his cycles



The Designer's enhanced cycle runs on poo.

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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 24 2011,06:10   

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Don't distract him!  I think I speak for everyone here (well, ok, maybe just 'Ras) when I want to hear more about his theory that coprophagy proves design.

Is this something to do with 'Mud to Mozart'?

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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 24 2011,06:29   

from shit to silverstein!

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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 24 2011,06:30   

more about slime to proust, hitler therefore baby jesus, please

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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 24 2011,06:40   

Can anyone say "Gish Gallop"?

I wonder if the new Wunderkind of T.A.R.D. can stick to one single claim. My prediction: heliotrope!

Louis

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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 24 2011,06:56   

I wouldn't be surprised if we got an Anthropogenic Global Warming (AGW) denialist on our hands, therefore this news of today as an example of how science actually works:

Berkeley Earth Project
   
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Behind the results we find among others one of the 2011 Nobel laureates in physics, Saul Perlmutter, and it has been led by the American physicist Richard Muller. He has been an outspoken critic of parts of the methods of climate research and wanted to check the conclusions of the British researchers that was alleged to have been dressing their figures in the so-called Climategate, later they’ve been freed by independent researchers.
Money for the new research was put up, among others by American oil billionaires that also support climate skeptical lobbyist groups. And the results show an increase of nearly 1°C  average land temperature the past 100 years.
The new curve also looks almost exactly like the three earlier produced by different research groups in the USA and Great Britain.


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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 24 2011,07:00   

from ordure to Orff

from feces to Ninety-Five Theses

from BM to BMW

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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 24 2011,07:00   

References to Of Mice and Men and factual information aside, I think our new friend didn't expect the Spanish inquisition!

Ok, I'll admit this was posted for comedic value and doesn't add anything to the discussion, but when I left yesterday the thread was 3 pages, and now it's 6.


I'm a slow reader...

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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 24 2011,07:21   

Quote (Schroedinger's Dog @ Oct. 24 2011,07:00)
References to Of Mice and Men and factual information aside, I think our new friend didn't expect the Spanish inquisition!

Ok, I'll admit this was posted for comedic value and doesn't add anything to the discussion, but when I left yesterday the thread was 3 pages, and now it's 6.


I'm a slow reader...

Dude, I left at four pages to go watch Tron: Legacy with the boy and came back to 6 pages.

I hope we didn't break him.  I mean, who are we expecting to actually support his statements>!>!>

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