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Lou FCD



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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 12 2007,10:35   

Rich is having a bit of account trouble so I'm copy/pasting for him.

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It's an oldie I re-discovered. Decent break over sweet dreams. They change the hook in places and use lennox's voice as in instrument proper, so I think they do enough. I rate this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4l1ywpX-g34

Sexi_Hawt
Zachriel the Angel of Memory from Jupiter <<<
Tarden Chatterbox
FtK
AFDave

This is teh muzik ratings system.

It's @ 136 BPM. How fast was the origional?


Per the conversation on this page of the Board Mechanics thread.

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Reciprocating Bill



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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 12 2007,11:16   

I'm not spinning anything at this moment (because ostensibly busy putting food on my family), but yesterday had a delightful moment. Sifting through some LPs abandoned years ago by my sister-in-law I discovered a pristine copy of the Beach Boys' "Shut Down Volume II" recorded in 1964.

"Fun Fun Fun" ('till your Daddy took the T-bird away") opens the LP. In addition to this being a GREAT tune, I am absolutely astonished at the quality of the studio engineering on this cut: the use of stereo to augment the complex harmonies is VERY impressive and, of course, the LP presents their voices with a silky accuracy and resolution you've NEVER heard on a CD (sorry guys, its true: the Redbook CD format is mid-fi at best).

What a great tune.

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Richardthughes



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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 12 2007,11:32   

Do you remember the big fuss over DDD CDs? I wasn't that impressed. I'm similarly unimpressed with the gain in HDTV.

Music wise, get yourself some 1210's and take good care of your vinyl. Its worth remembering that a lot of early music was mixed for the medium, so it will sound better (warmer) on vinyl. Of course the sound is only as good as the weakest link in your setup...

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Reciprocating Bill



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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 12 2007,11:56   

Quote (Richardthughes @ Nov. 12 2007,12:32)
Music wise, get yourself some 1210's and take good care of your vinyl...

By which you mean Technics 1210 turntables?

I use much older gear: an Empire 398 turntable manufactured in 1962 (with a six pound aluminum platter that could easily be used as a murder weapon) on which I've mounted a SME 3009 II improved arm (circa 1973, made in Britain). That carries an AT 440MLa phono cartridge, which is fantastic tracker and an amazing buy. Played through two tube-fired H-K monaural receivers (circa 1956, used for their amplifier sections only) into home built enclosures containing University Sound drivers from the early '50s and '60s (of which my avatar is one example).  

The SACD format sounds much closer to vinyl - but really isn't quite there.

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Reciprocating Bill



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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 12 2007,12:13   



Not easy to see, but attached to the sill directly behind the turntable is a Hagerman Bugle phono preamp and power supply (which I built from a half-kit), also a fantastic buy.

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Annyday



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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 12 2007,12:16   

I'm young and naive and have been listening to Sneaker Pimps albums for about three days now. I've got a terrible migraine and my ears hurt.

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Richardthughes



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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 12 2007,12:17   

Quote (Annyday @ Nov. 12 2007,12:16)
I'm young and naive and have been listening to Sneaker Pimps albums for about three days now. I've got a terrible migraine and my ears hurt.

I have a banging remix of 6 underground.

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Richardthughes



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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 12 2007,12:17   

Quote (Reciprocating Bill @ Nov. 12 2007,12:13)


Not easy to see, but attached to the sill directly behind the turntable is a Hagerman Bugle phono preamp and power supply (which I built from a half-kit), also a fantastic buy.

Richie's Fracterial Blagella spins a little faster..

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"You magnificent bastard! " : Louis
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"...it was Richardthughes making me lie in bed.." : Kristine

  
Annyday



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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 12 2007,12:18   

Remixed by who, and where can I find it?

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Richardthughes



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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 12 2007,12:22   

Quote (Annyday @ Nov. 12 2007,12:18)
Remixed by who, and where can I find it?

http://www.artistdirect.com/nad....=search

I like the Perfecto one best ( puts on white gloves and blows whistle), the other one is nice and trippy...

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Annyday



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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 12 2007,12:25   

Danke.

From left field, has anyone heard Wumpscut?

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Reciprocating Bill



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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 12 2007,12:34   

Another analog source, plus a a shot of homebrew enclosure with University reciprocating flare horns (for reference, woofer is 15"). That's the way we used to do it.



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Richardthughes



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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 12 2007,13:13   

Are you a Muso, Bill?

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Erasmus, FCD



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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 12 2007,13:20   

Now spinning the Hammons Family




my musicians can whup your musicians

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Reciprocating Bill



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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 12 2007,13:57   

Quote (Richardthughes @ Nov. 12 2007,14:13)
Are you a Muso, Bill?

Strictly amateur, piano, some composition. Lately I've enjoyed a resurgence as I've been fiddling with midi captures of my piano improvisations.

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Myth: Something that never was true, and always will be.

"The truth will set you free. But not until it is finished with you."
- David Foster Wallace

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- Barry Arrington

  
mitschlag



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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 12 2007,14:51   

Quote (Richardthughes @ Nov. 12 2007,11:32)
Music wise, get yourself some 1210's and take good care of your vinyl. Its worth remembering that a lot of early music was mixed for the medium, so it will sound better (warmer) on vinyl.
Gimme that old time harmonic distortion:
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Programmable analog distortion/warmth: Helpful in the pristine but unforgiving digital world. Three audio modes provide user programmable, warm harmonic distortion. Emphasized tube-like 2nd harmonic in clean and Distort 2 mode. In Distort 3 mode the distortion becomes dominated by 3rd harmonic (similar to tape).

From this lair of Satan.

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Richardthughes



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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 12 2007,15:36   

Quote (Reciprocating Bill @ Nov. 12 2007,13:57)
Quote (Richardthughes @ Nov. 12 2007,14:13)
Are you a Muso, Bill?

Strictly amateur, piano, some composition. Lately I've enjoyed a resurgence as I've been fiddling with midi captures of my piano improvisations.

May I point you here:

http://www.antievolution.org/cgi-bin....hl=muso

Bill.

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"You magnificent bastard! " : Louis
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Erasmus, FCD



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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 12 2007,19:18   

Wow I had no idea so many of you were guitar pickers.

Now, what's up with all this electric business?  When S.H.F., you ain't going to be able to do nothin with those fiddles but chop em up for fire wood.

My Landola Jumbo however will be going just fine when the power is dead.  As long as I can find a warehouse to break into and steal some strings.

Are they a fiddler round hyar?  Any banjo pickers?

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stevestory



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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 12 2007,20:00   

I'm presuming this to be a general music thread.

My setup is pretty ordinary. Decent Soundblaster card going through a y-cable to a Sony STR-K9900P reciever and then to some JBL bookshelf speakers. I've got a little bit of hearing damage and I probably couldn't tell my setup from an extravagant one anyway. And given how allergic audiophiles are to double-blind tests, some of them probably couldn't either.

The content--the important part--is the following:

Morcheeba - Parts of the Process (whole disc)
Tonya Donnelly - Pretty Deep
Tool - Sober
Jane's Addiction - Jane Says
Fountains of Wayne - Stacey's Mom
Aimee Mann - Red Vines
Christina Aguilera - Dirty

   
stevestory



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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 12 2007,20:04   

Also,
Bruce Springsteen - John Henry
Smashing Pumpkins - Zero

   
stevestory



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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 12 2007,20:10   

By the way, the video of Dirrty is exactly that. Even Aguilera was a little embarrassed by it later.

I highly recommend it.

   
stevestory



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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 12 2007,20:18   

Also:

Andrea True Connection - More More More
Thelma Houston - Don't Leave Me This Way

   
Dr.GH



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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 12 2007,21:15   

Mandolin, dulcimer, oud, guitar

Not in any order

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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 12 2007,21:49   

Quote (stevestory @ Nov. 12 2007,20:00)
I've got a little bit of hearing damage and I probably couldn't tell my setup from an extravagant one anyway. And given how allergic audiophiles are to double-blind tests, some of them probably couldn't either.

Have you been following this amusing battle between James Randi and fans of the $7250 Pear Anjou stereo cables?

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clamboy



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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 12 2007,22:10   

Quote (keiths @ Nov. 12 2007,21:49)
Quote (stevestory @ Nov. 12 2007,20:00)
I've got a little bit of hearing damage and I probably couldn't tell my setup from an extravagant one anyway. And given how allergic audiophiles are to double-blind tests, some of them probably couldn't either.

Have you been following [URL=http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/calling-bullshit/updated-journalist-accepts-1-million-challenge-do-7250-cables-sound-better-or-not-311034.p

hp?retitled]this amusing battle[/URL] between James Randi and fans of the $7250 Pear Anjou stereo cables?

Oh my, yes! Honestly, Randi be danged, I have found the Pears to be *the* cables through which to play the split LP "Earslaughter" by Extreme Noise Terror and Chaos U.K. They bring out the warmth in E.N.T.'s "Bullshit Propaganda", as well as enhancing the tastes of oak and cherry found amid the high ranges of the entire 12".

And, of course, those 1210s are de rigeurwhen listening to Sore Throat's "Unhindered by Talent," as well as their magnum opus "Disgrace to the Corpse of Sid".

  
Reciprocating Bill



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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 12 2007,22:15   

Quote (keiths @ Nov. 12 2007,22:49)
     
Quote (stevestory @ Nov. 12 2007,20:00)
I've got a little bit of hearing damage and I probably couldn't tell my setup from an extravagant one anyway. And given how allergic audiophiles are to double-blind tests, some of them probably couldn't either.

Have you been following this amusing battle between James Randi and fans of the $7250 Pear Anjou stereo cables


A spoof audio product (audiophile air) I imagined over at the Vintage Asylum:

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I sell AudioAir, which uses polished nitrogen atoms and balanced O2 for perfect impedance matching between driver diaphragm and AudioAir, as well as AudioAir and human tympani. Each bottle of compressed AudioAir is play tested and broken in for 100 hours with a variety of program materials. The infusion of AudioAir in to your listening atmosphere yields a a more coherent soundstage, higher resolution, superior speed, and prompt activation of the recently discovered musimami receptor. Our promise: No concentrators, humidification, or pulse regulators stand between you and the music, as is the case with with lessor "audiophile" airs. $2395/10 liters. Optional tiptoes for your bottle of AudioAir $195.


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Wesley R. Elsberry



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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 12 2007,22:17   

Check your high-end cable savvy.

Don't look at the comments until you make your choice.

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Reciprocating Bill



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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 12 2007,22:24   

Quote (Wesley R. Elsberry @ Nov. 12 2007,23:17)
Check your high-end cable savvy.

Don't look at the comments until you make your choice.

I got as far as figuring that it had to do with a problematic push-pull (class B) amplifier topology.

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Reciprocating Bill



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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 12 2007,22:35   

Over at the AudioAsylum discussion of double blind and ABX testing is strictly forbidden in certain fora, particularly the forum dealing with cables.

"Why are DBT discussions not allowed?

Quite simply, the reason is that these topics rarely spark a productive exchange. While a vast majority of Asylum inmates are firmly in the middle ground, the topics of DBT and ABX tend to force polarization and quickly degrade into death spiraling flame wars."

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"The truth will set you free. But not until it is finished with you."
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Wesley R. Elsberry



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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 12 2007,22:38   

It reminded me of the joke about Radio Shack computer salesmen:

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Q. What's the difference between a used-car salesman and a Radio Shack computer salesman?

A. The used-car salesman knows when he is lying to you.


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stevestory



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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 12 2007,22:49   

Quote (keiths @ Nov. 12 2007,22:49)
Quote (stevestory @ Nov. 12 2007,20:00)
I've got a little bit of hearing damage and I probably couldn't tell my setup from an extravagant one anyway. And given how allergic audiophiles are to double-blind tests, some of them probably couldn't either.

Have you been following [URL=http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/calling-bullshit/updated-journalist-accepts-1-million-challenge-do-7250-cables-sound-better-or-not-311034.p

hp?retitled]this amusing battle[/URL] between James Randi and fans of the $7250 Pear Anjou stereo cables?

Yes I have, actually. A friend remarked, "I'm going to claim my cables are saturated in helium and retire after selling a few $50,000 pairs to these idiots."

   
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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 12 2007,22:55   

Quote (clamboy @ Nov. 12 2007,23:10)
Quote (keiths @ Nov. 12 2007,21:49)
Quote (stevestory @ Nov. 12 2007,20:00)
I've got a little bit of hearing damage and I probably couldn't tell my setup from an extravagant one anyway. And given how allergic audiophiles are to double-blind tests, some of them probably couldn't either.

Have you been following [URL=http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/calling-bullshit/updated-journalist-accepts-1-million-challenge-do-7250-cables-sound-better-or-not-311034.p


hp?retitled]this amusing battle[/URL] between James Randi and fans of the $7250 Pear Anjou stereo cables?

Oh my, yes! Honestly, Randi be danged, I have found the Pears to be *the* cables through which to play the split LP "Earslaughter" by Extreme Noise Terror and Chaos U.K. They bring out the warmth in E.N.T.'s "Bullshit Propaganda", as well as enhancing the tastes of oak and cherry found amid the high ranges of the entire 12".

And, of course, those 1210s are de rigeurwhen listening to Sore Throat's "Unhindered by Talent," as well as their magnum opus "Disgrace to the Corpse of Sid".

I hope this post is a joke, because it's f'n funny.

   
stevestory



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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 12 2007,22:59   

I remember the last pair of Oakley sunglasses I bought. $120. They came with a spectrograph of wavelengths they block. Nice little graph. At the time I was doing some biophysics research that utilized an IR spectrometer. I positioned the setup to evaluate some cheap Target sunglasses I'd bought, and, confirming the well-known-fact that basically all plastics block nearly all UV light, promptly dispensed with buying expensive sunglasses.

   
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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 12 2007,23:00   

Up until 1998, I could detect a 20 kHz tone. I was disappointed the following year to discover that 14 kHz was my new top-end.

I haven't pulled out the tone generator recently to test. I think I'm afraid of what I would learn. But I find my music-listening needs are pretty much fulfilled by convenient MP3 player technology and good headphones or amplified speakers. This past January, I dug out my turntable, got a replacement belt, and digitized the LPs that I either wanted to hear shortly or figured that I was never going to see in CD format anyway. (I don't suppose the Temple City Kazoo Orchestra is simply biding their time on a release.) The turntable and my few remaining pieces of component stereo stuff (minus a cassette deck that I kept) went to a friend and the LPs went to Half-Price Books.

I do get a kick out of wandering around the high-end audiophile areas at CES, though. It's a place where one can find BS stacked up almost as high as in antievolution sources, but they certainly have antievolution beat on the pricing. $800 for a six-foot "power interconnect", anyone? That's a "power cord" to the rest of us, and in the unlikely event that I get a bunch of component audiophile gear at home sometime, I will happily use the $5 sort of "power interconnect" to plug it into the wall, which after all is wired with the cheapest Romex the contractor at the time could manage to locate, and delivers power engineered by people working hourly for my local municipality.

One thing that has been amusing for some time is that high-end equipment manufacturers like to use bleeding-edge light sources for "power-on" indicators, even though this has absolutely no relation to the sound quality of the system, and a simple, cheap red LED would continue to do as fine a job today as they did back in the 1970s. I think it was around 2000 that blue LEDs had finally become available in consumer applications, and suddenly every system's power-on indicator light simply had to be a blue LED.

I wonder if they will halt there, or if they will continue on to using UV-emitting LEDs, possibly with a fluorescent surround to show it off.

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stevestory



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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 12 2007,23:08   

My hearing damage is much more acute. All those good times as a young redneck blasting shotguns, and being right handed, resulted in a number of comments that the left hand speaker must be especially weak. It wasn't til I was at MEPS in Jacksonville, Fla, and they remarked, "-20 dB in left ear" that I realized it wasn't the speakers that were malfunctional....

   
stevestory



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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 12 2007,23:17   

Quote (Wesley R. Elsberry @ Nov. 13 2007,00:00)
$800 for a six-foot "power interconnect", anyone? That's a "power cord" to the rest of us, and in the unlikely event that I get a bunch of component audiophile gear at home sometime, I will happily use the $5 sort of "power interconnect" to plug it into the wall, which after all is wired with the cheapest Romex the contractor at the time could manage to locate, and delivers power engineered by people working hourly for my local municipality.

Apologies to the kiddies for the profanity, but here's an actual quote from a (real) audiophile friend last week: "Yeah, power cables. Jesus. Some idiot was telling me about how much bass his power cable had. 'Oh, feel the bass in this cable.' I didn't have the heart to tell him his special bassy power cable was on one side of the wall jack, and on the other was the cheapest aluminum shit the electrician could buy. This is like those African wood cable stands. Fucking idiots have too much money."

   
Reciprocating Bill



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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 12 2007,23:19   

Quote (Wesley R. Elsberry @ Nov. 13 2007,00:00)
Up until 1998, I could detect a 20 kHz tone. I was disappointed the following year to discover that 14 kHz was my new top-end.

I haven't pulled out the tone generator recently to test. I think I'm afraid of what I would learn.

I'm 55 and my hearing tops out at about 14 kHz. My right ear does very slightly better than my left, apparently (14 kHz versus 13.5).

But if IIRC the decision was made to filter FM stereo above 15kHz (to allow headroom for the mulitplex carrier) following extensive blind studies that showed that most listeners could not distinguish between music reproduced with content above 15 kHz and that which did not.

At any rate, there's a lot of sweetness to enjoy below 14 kHz.  

My most recent source of sweetness: approximately 400 recently acquired LPs, all classical and most in excellent condition.





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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 12 2007,23:23   

I've heard that tubes and vinyl have pleasant even harmonics, while solid state stuff have unpleasant odd harmonics. Anyone know if this is true?

   
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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 12 2007,23:42   

Quote (Wesley R. Elsberry @ Nov. 12 2007,23:00)
This past January, I dug out my turntable, got a replacement belt, and digitized the LPs that I either wanted to hear shortly or figured that I was never going to see in CD format anyway.

I am not quite the audiophile that y'all are, but I do have a number of LPs that I would like to digitize due to lack of availability in mp3 format.  Given that I have a working turntable, is it possible to get set up to digitize with minimal cost?

It may end up being cost effective just to use a service, but there is a certain appeal to DIY.

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(I don't suppose the Temple City Kazoo Orchestra is simply biding their time on a release.)


Ya think?    ;)

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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 12 2007,23:58   

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I've heard that tubes and vinyl have pleasant even harmonics, while solid state stuff have unpleasant odd harmonics. Anyone know if this is true?

That's the theory vis tubes, although not vinyl. Some argue that well designed solid state and tube amplifiers sound equivalent until overdriven. The harmonic distortion generated by tubes near clipping is 2nd order versus 3rd and higher for SS, and is therefore less noticeable and less objectionable.

There are other differences that relate to the interaction between amplifiers and speakers of varying designs; speakers often present very complex loads, with impedance that varies wildly with frequency, so there are significant speaker - amplifier interactions. Additionally, SS equipment typically presents a damping factor to a speaker an order of magnitude higher than does tube equipment, which gives it much more control over bass performance - good for some speaker designs (e.g. acoustic suspension), bad for others (horns, bass reflex, ported designs).  

The bottom line is that matching speaker to amplifier is often more important than the characteristics of individual components. All my stuff is quite vintage, and matches well.  

The advantage of vinyl is resolution. The "redbook" CD data format reflects some very serious and audible compromises that limit the resolution of the sound, particularly at high frequencies. It is not that digital is inherently inferior - but rather the sampling and data formats selected in the early '80s for CDs, which was adapted to the realities of the computer power that could be mass produced for a consumer device at that time, introduced limitations.  

Practically speaking, I find that well engineered vinyl recordings retain a "silkiness" in massed strings, a high frequency "sheen" with brushed cymbals, and a purity with voices and woodwinds that I've never heard in from a CD, at least not with my equipment. "Sound stage" (the sense of a space spreading between the speakers) is also subtly superior. When I first resuscitated my turntable and returned to vinyl I experienced a shock of recognition: Oh, THAT!!!  I hadn't heard THAT in 20 years, a set of qualities I had associated with high fidelity, but had forgotten. When CDs were first introduced we were all wowed by the low noise floor, convenience, and lack of wear with repeated playing and didn't notice what we had lost. Mp3s are even worse, introducing an audible "edge" that I liken to a metallic taste in food. SACD and DVD digital audio are of far higher resolution and are very close to analog.

The irony of the design selected for CDs is that a vastly superior system (although probably not practical to implement as a mass market device) existed at that time: Telarc's "Soundstream" digital recording system. Superior in every respect, those recordings are breathtaking in their quality, but there are just two ways to hear them the way they were intended: via the original LPs (recorded as soundstream digital masters and directly transfered to the vinyl cutting heads) or the re-releases now available as SACDs. They don't convert well to CDs because of artifacts introduced in mathematically converting data generated by the 50 kHz sampling rate of the soundstream system to the 44 kHz sampling rate of the Redbook format.

Here is a great little "tiny history" of High Fidelity that speaks to many of these issues.

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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 13 2007,00:34   

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I've got a little bit of hearing damage and I probably couldn't tell my setup from an extravagant one anyway. And given how allergic audiophiles are to double-blind tests, some of them probably couldn't either.

Have you been following [URL=http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/calling-bullshit/updated-journalist-accepts-1-million-challenge-do-7250-cables-sound-better-or-not-311034.p



hp?retitled]this amusing battle[/URL] between James Randi and fans of the $7250 Pear Anjou stereo cables?

Oh my, yes! Honestly, Randi be danged, I have found the Pears to be *the* cables through which to play the split LP "Earslaughter" by Extreme Noise Terror and Chaos U.K. They bring out the warmth in E.N.T.'s "Bullshit Propaganda", as well as enhancing the tastes of oak and cherry found amid the high ranges of the entire 12".

And, of course, those 1210s are de rigeurwhen listening to Sore Throat's "Unhindered by Talent," as well as their magnum opus "Disgrace to the Corpse of Sid".

I hope this post is a joke, because it's f'n funny.

The truly funny part is that I actually own those albums, and take great joy in their playing. What is it that makes a human being revel in horrendous ear-splattering tonesofdestruction whirlwind tornado ultrahurricane pure brutality noise? Or does that question contain its own answer?

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 13 2007,02:54   

{raises hand tentatively}

Ummm I am listening to the new Ween album on my PC with some £8.99 headphones whilst sat at my desk.*

{slinks away}

Louis

*Obviously at home I have the £4000 Krypton infused iridium/silver alloy cables By IntelligentDesignUberMusic. Those IDUM cables really make a big difference, they're so good I don't actually need a stereo I just sit my CD next to them and the warm musical tones flood out. As the slogan says: Everbody Knows IDUM.

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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 13 2007,04:37   

I'm very much a member of the CD generation.  I'm highly skeptical of the claims of vinyl superiority.  I'm willing and indeed interested in carrying out a test sometime to see if I can hear the difference, but I've made my decision to stick with the digital world for practical matters.  I need a sound system that can fit in my pocket and plug into earphones, and also a medium that can fit into the sound system (factory spec, nothing fancy about it) in my car.  Perhaps if I had an audiophile buddy I might find myself spending all my time basking in the high end sound and I might ultimately make the transition myself.. but for now I get my music the new fangled digital way.

This thread has gotten me to look back through my collection of CDs that I've converted to mp3 (or AAC, or OGG) format for my mp3 player.  I'm currently listening to the soundtrack to the movie Heavy Metal.  Specifically, at the moment I've got Grand Funk Railroad on, playing Queen Bee.

But lately I haven't really been listening to much.  I'm kind of on a musical low point.  I'm both SEVERELY annoyed at the behavior of the RIAA and the labels supporting it, and also frustrated by a lack of quality music coming out from them.  I've enacted a most likely futile personal boycott of everything produced by any company that contributes to the RIAA.  It's not really that big a deal since I'm hard pressed to find anything new that I'm into anyway.  I've got hundreds of CDs from an earlier, voracious musical consumption period, but I'm hungry for something new.

BT (the artist) could probably break my will and get me to abandon my boycott by just coming out with a new album that includes a song he's performed live that I've heard through youtube.  It's terribly distorted, but it leaves me positively drooling for a chance to hear a proper version of it.  The song is Mad World, originally by Tears for Fears but more recently redone in a minimalist style for the movie Donnie Darko and then popularized in a commercial for a video game.
Instead he comes out with a minimalist CD/DVD thing.. why does he taunt me so?

If I may explain, I write fiction (mostly science fiction) as a hobby.  I do it in a stupid, withdrawn sort of way in that I've never shown anyone 99% of what I've written.  Like I said, it's a hobby, I do it for my own amusement.  But I need music for it, everything I write is fueled by the music I'm listening to at the time.  I have one story that I desperately want to make a movie out of, if nothing else just so I can use another BT song as the song that starts playing just at the end of the movie.  I hear the song and I can visualize exactly how the ending visuals would occur, to me the song has the visual cues embedded within it.

With my current musical low point my writing has also ground to a stop.  It's a REALLY annoying feeling.. like creative constipation.  Hmm.. and music is my laxative.. yeah.. that's.. unpleasant..  I think of it more like a performance enhancing drug.  Exciting new songs open up new ideas to me.


Anyway, if we're going to be mentioning favored artists all I can really say is that I have a weak spot for almost anything from the 80s.  Especially the pop and techno-pop of the era.  Level 42, Toto, Bruce Hornsby, Howard Jones, Glass Tiger, Wang Chung, Journey, New Order, Boston..

And then I'm also a big electronic music devotee, so I should also add The Prodigy, Orbital, Apollo 440, Daft Punk (almost exclusively Discovery, I don't really care for their other albums), and I guess I'll wrap that category up with William Orbit.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 13 2007,07:07   

Quote (Nomad @ Nov. 13 2007,05:37)
I'm very much a member of the CD generation.  I'm highly skeptical of the claims of vinyl superiority.  I'm willing and indeed interested in carrying out a test sometime to see if I can hear the difference, but I've made my decision to stick with the digital world for practical matters.

Of course, CDs offer significant advantages over vinyl, including some sonic advantages (noise floor and dynamic range). I haven't played any LPs in my car lately, nor burned any. They're heavy, not very portable, and are easily damaged. Random access is arduous. And good equipment is required for good reproduction. There are many excellent CDs, and some LPs are poorly engineered and present mediocre sound. SACD is even better, and I own an SACD player.

That said, the advantages of vinyl I describe are very real, and in some respects not all that subtle, and it adds up to an emotional connection to some performances that is bleached out of many CD recordings.  Whether those advantages are worth the trouble is another question.

Indeed, convenience is clearly winning the day: although high density and truly high fidelity digital formats (SACD, DVD audio) have been available for a few years, they haven't been successful, as the world goes for the convenience of MP3s - which are significantly sonically inferior even to CDs.

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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 13 2007,07:10   

Wow, what's with all this heavy technical stuff? I have no idea, nor do I really care about that, if it sounds good on whatever I play it on, then whatever I play it on is alright by me.

Personally I have a huge love of the old Madchester scene (no, that's not a typo despite what spell checker says), Stone Roses, Charlatans, Happy Mondays and all their ilk.  (for those who have no idea who I'm on about:
The Stone Roses although I urge caution for some of you, the lyrics can be somewhat....blasphemous, particularly in that song
The Charlatans
Happy Mondays
I also adore Inspiral Carpets Link.
Finally, Ian Brown, from the Stone Roses (hence the name, which I used first a few years ago to hide my real name somewhere and subsequently use everywhere, because it's easy) has a rather good solo career. Here's one of his, F.E.A.R.

Plus I love a lot of older music, big fan of the Beatles, Beach Boys, Buddy Holly, Johnny Cash, James Brown.... Quite a lot of different genres really, and loads of artists. Add a smattering of Classical in there too.

However, I almost entirely (almost) dislike Hip Hop and "new" R n B (although the actual RnB is awesome) and I can't stand most (but not all) Dance music.

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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 13 2007,07:35   

just listen to the sustain...





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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 13 2007,08:59   

Nomad sez:

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BT (the artist) could probably break my will and get me to abandon my boycott by just coming out with a new album that includes a song he's performed live that I've heard through youtube.


I like BT, I misremember him doing this remix:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dsVlA_x6Ylk

Turns out it wasn't him. Still, very good tune. I Like the ride out out the end, it's the sound of nihilism to me. dial up to 5.19 - it's like a radioactive wind that blows through you. Now that's the sound of pointless atheism!  :)


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And then I'm also a big electronic music devotee, so I should also add The Prodigy, Orbital, Apollo 440, Daft Punk (almost exclusively Discovery, I don't really care for their other albums), and I guess I'll wrap that category up with William Orbit.


Do you has liquid cool?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6kCJ3k3zzGQ

its in ur ears makin u hapie.

William orbit is a genius, which is not a term to be thrown around lightly. I like all his stuff ('cept "Loadsamoney" for Harry enfield, which is utter gash) "Seagreen" and "Water from a vine leaf" are probably the most spiritual to me but Fascinating Rhythm is my fave. The sample from "Foxy lady" cracks me up.

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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 13 2007,13:09   

Right now, I am listening to Duke Jupiter - The Band Played On.  This was a local (Rochester, NY) band that was getting national airplay and opening for some rock heavyweights in the late 70's and early 80's, but never quite broke through on their own.  It is pretty much straight ahead, no frills and no deep thinking rock and roll that was typical the time.  Some of it is forgettable, and some is still fun to listen to, like "I'll Drink to You."

Also, in the last day I've listened to Johnny Cash - American V: A Hundred Highways (his last album) and The Waterboys - Fisherman's Blues.

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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 13 2007,13:25   

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Wow, what's with all this heavy technical stuff? I have no idea, nor do I really care about that, if it sounds good on whatever I play it on, then whatever I play it on is alright by me.

Indeed.  I used to know someone who demonstrated that vinyl sounds better than CD - I heard two versions of the same recording on his system, and the vinyl version was definitely superior.  His system cost more than most cars.  I have a decent but not spectacular set of gear (NAD CD player & amp, Snell speakers, Sennheiser headphones, iPod+Ultimate Ears on the road), giving me more money to spend on actual music.  I'm considering moving the shower and toilet onto the back steps to make more room for CDs.

Last five purchases: John Surman: The Spaces In Between; Fred Hersch: Night and the Music; Death Ambient (now there's a good band name): Synaesthesia; Groundtruther; Altitude; Paul Bley: Solo in Mondsee.

About two-thirds of what I own is jazz, more or less.  Lately I've been listening to a lot of jazz/electronic hybrid stuff - the Thirsty Ear and Tzadik labels have been putting out a lot of very interesting music lately.  The rest is all over the place - a fair amount of classical, reggae, blues, R&B.  Plus a lot of the stuff I grew up with: the likes of Joy Division, the Clash, Talking Heads, Elvis Costello, XTC...

For what it's worth (this obviously reflects the artists' productivity as much as my tastes), the longest stretches of shelf space are devoted to Sun Ra, Miles Davis and Frank Zappa.

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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 14 2007,03:11   

Call me a facist but I think anyone who doesn't like Zappa should be killed. Painfully.

When the revolution comes there will be three questions:

1) Do you like the music of Frank Zappa? (with the obvious follow up questions to detect frauds)

2) Do you understand what Pink Floyd are talking about on the Dark Side of the Moon album? (with the obivous discussion)

3) Is S-Club-7's output "music"?

Killin people who get those answers wrong could solve a lot of humanity's problems.*

Louis

*It's possible, although by no means certain, that I am not serious.

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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 14 2007,03:36   

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Call me a facist but I think anyone who doesn't like Zappa should be killed. Painfully.

When the revolution comes there will be three questions:

1) Do you like the music of Frank Zappa? (with the obvious follow up questions to detect frauds)

One of those follow up questions would be: Which is your favorite Zappa lineup?

I'm partial to the Roxy & Elsewhere and One Size Fits All period, followed by the Flo & Eddie era, with the original Mothers of Invention lineup coming in third.

Oh yeah... count me among those whose hearing is too fucked to worry about high-end audio applications. I used to be in a surf instrumental band - the lack of a vocalist allowed us to play at Motorhead-levels of volume. It was fun at the time, but my right eardrum hates me today.

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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 14 2007,03:59   

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Quote (Louis @ Nov. 14 2007,03:11)
Call me a facist but I think anyone who doesn't like Zappa should be killed. Painfully.

When the revolution comes there will be three questions:

1) Do you like the music of Frank Zappa? (with the obvious follow up questions to detect frauds)

One of those follow up questions would be: Which is your favorite Zappa lineup?

I'm partial to the Roxy & Elsewhere and One Size Fits All period, followed by the Flo & Eddie era, with the original Mothers of Invention lineup coming in third.

{snip}

Good question, it shall be added to the Glorious Follow Up Questions of the People's Righteous Revolution.

Terry Bosio, Patrick O'Hearn, Johnny Marr.....

Oh dear, I appear to have had an accident. Very sorry.

Louis

P.S. I'm not sure of the spellings of the names, I'm am removed from my collection at the moment. I also confess a not insignificant liking for the combination of Steve Vai and Frank Zappa, although I realise this is controversial and may cause a schism.

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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 14 2007,07:10   

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Do you understand what Pink Floyd are talking about on the Dark Side of the Moon album? (with the obivous discussion)


S'life isn't it?

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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 14 2007,07:14   

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Call me a facist but I think anyone who doesn't like Zappa should be killed. Painfully.

When the revolution comes there will be three questions:

1) Do you like the music of Frank Zappa? (with the obvious follow up questions to detect frauds)

One of those follow up questions would be: Which is your favorite Zappa lineup?

I'm partial to the Roxy & Elsewhere and One Size Fits All period, followed by the Flo & Eddie era, with the original Mothers of Invention lineup coming in third.

Oh yeah... count me among those whose hearing is too fucked to worry about high-end audio applications. I used to be in a surf instrumental band - the lack of a vocalist allowed us to play at Motorhead-levels of volume. It was fun at the time, but my right eardrum hates me today.

My favorite Zappa lineup was the middle and late iterations of the original Mothers of Invention (Ray Collins on vocals, Jimmy Carl Black, Motorhead Sherwood, Ian Underwood, Roy Estrada, Bunk Gardner, Don Preston, Arthur Tripp) found on WOIFTM, Uncle Meat, Burnt Weeny Sandwich, Weasels Ripped My Flesh, Cruising with Rueben and the Jets, etc. They didn't have quite the superhuman performance skills of some of the later bands, but the music of that era is particularly original and inspired, and there was a sort of looney, Doo-Wop, faux hispanic, multi-track goofiness to that ensemble that was never (IMHO) quite recaptured. Yet even then the tightness and complexity of Frank's music had no parallel elsewhere in rock. I somewhat lost interest only because I discovered orchestral music - classical era right through the 20th century - which had many of the qualities I loved in Zappa done even more skillfully.

It was during the late 60s and early 70's that I first got into Frank Zappa, and I have particular fondness for that era (so my nurses tell me). However, during the recent Zappa plays Zappa tour I heard a lot of middle and later Zappa that I had never heard before and REALLY LIKED, so this is a provisional top preference.

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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 14 2007,07:33   

I wonder what's the correlation between Zappa appreciation and Church Burnin'.  Seems pretty high.  Likewise, how many hands would be required to count the number of creationist Zappa fans?

Me, my favourite lineup varies by week.  Lately I find I prefer the high Statistical Density Zappa.

But for something completely different, I'm now listening to Hampton Colisseum, 9 Oct '89.  The band?  Man, if you have to ask, you just ain't hip.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 14 2007,11:07   

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I'm partial to the Roxy & Elsewhere and One Size Fits All period,

Yes.  If I could only take one Zappa album to the desert island, it would probably be One Size Fits All, or possibly You Can't Do That On Stage Any More vol. 2.

 
Quote (Mister DNA @ Nov. 14 2007,01:36)
followed by the Flo & Eddie era,

Not his best period, in my opinion.  I love 200 Motels, but I find most of the rest too concerned with "ooh, aren't we rude?" at the expense of the music.

 
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...the original Mothers of Invention lineup

Yes again.  Is Freak Out the best debut album ever?

Also, don't forget the phenomenal 1988 big band.  Make A Jazz Noise Here is another desert-island possibility, and The Best Band You Never Heard In Your Life is not far behind.

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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 15 2007,21:21   

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I'm partial to the Roxy & Elsewhere and One Size Fits All period,

Yes.  If I could only take one Zappa album to the desert island, it would probably be One Size Fits All, or possibly You Can't Do That On Stage Any More vol. 2.

You should'a heard the Zappa Plays Zappa* live rendition of Andy. Absafuckinglutely awesome.

*Dweezil's band, currently touring and playing his father's music.

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I've heard that tubes and vinyl have pleasant even harmonics, while solid state stuff have unpleasant odd harmonics. Anyone know if this is true?

That's the theory vis tubes, although not vinyl. Some argue that well designed solid state and tube amplifiers sound equivalent until overdriven. The harmonic distortion generated by tubes near clipping is 2nd order versus 3rd and higher for SS, and is therefore less noticeable and less objectionable.

I once had a record dealer friend who swore that the best sound quality he'd ever heard came from vinyl 78's, which had a short-lived existence for a few years in the 1950's.

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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 15 2007,21:40   

Quote (Louis @ Nov. 14 2007,03:59)
 
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Quote (Louis @ Nov. 14 2007,03:11)
Call me a facist but I think anyone who doesn't like Zappa should be killed. Painfully.

When the revolution comes there will be three questions:

1) Do you like the music of Frank Zappa? (with the obvious follow up questions to detect frauds)

One of those follow up questions would be: Which is your favorite Zappa lineup?

I'm partial to the Roxy & Elsewhere and One Size Fits All period, followed by the Flo & Eddie era, with the original Mothers of Invention lineup coming in third.

{snip}

Good question, it shall be added to the Glorious Follow Up Questions of the People's Righteous Revolution.

Terry Bosio, Patrick O'Hearn, Johnny Marr.....

Oh dear, I appear to have had an accident. Very sorry.

Louis

P.S. I'm not sure of the spellings of the names, I'm am removed from my collection at the moment. I also confess a not insignificant liking for the combination of Steve Vai and Frank Zappa, although I realise this is controversial and may cause a schism.

My favorite Zappa albums are We're Only In It For the Money (complete genius) and Freak Out.  Two of the funniest records EVER made.

Zappa was an amazingly smart guy, but I, uh, find his later records really boring.

[runs as Louis reaches for his shotgun]

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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 15 2007,21:54   

THIS record, however, is an unqualified masterpiece:



I've owned this record in one form or another since 1982 and I still can't believe everything Iggy and the boys managed to do with it. It was originally recorded in 1970 and it *still* frightens people. When I saw them in concert last Spring they played *every* track off it, even 'L.A. Blues'.

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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 15 2007,21:59   

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I've heard that tubes and vinyl have pleasant even harmonics, while solid state stuff have unpleasant odd harmonics. Anyone know if this is true?

That's the theory vis tubes, although not vinyl. Some argue that well designed solid state and tube amplifiers sound equivalent until overdriven. The harmonic distortion generated by tubes near clipping is 2nd order versus 3rd and higher for SS, and is therefore less noticeable and less objectionable.

I once had a record dealer friend who swore that the best sound quality he'd ever heard came from vinyl 78's, which had a short-lived existence for a few years in the 1950's.

If you REALLY want to feel the music go for an Edison cylinder. Accept no substitutes.

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I've heard that tubes and vinyl have pleasant even harmonics, while solid state stuff have unpleasant odd harmonics. Anyone know if this is true?

That's the theory vis tubes, although not vinyl. Some argue that well designed solid state and tube amplifiers sound equivalent until overdriven. The harmonic distortion generated by tubes near clipping is 2nd order versus 3rd and higher for SS, and is therefore less noticeable and less objectionable.

I once had a record dealer friend who swore that the best sound quality he'd ever heard came from vinyl 78's, which had a short-lived existence for a few years in the 1950's.

If you REALLY want to feel the music go for an Edison cylinder. Accept no substitutes.

I agree completely. The Blue Amberol series they released in 1912 has never been surpassed. This one's been on my machine a lot lately:



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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 16 2007,01:05   

I recently opted for this sucker: http://www.davesmithinstruments.com/products/pek/index.php
instead of a fancy-pants stereo setup.

Right now I'm spinning JS Bach's The Art of Fugue BWV 1080, switching between the Keller Quartet's interpretation, and Glenn Gould's. (For those of you who want astounding complexity not only in your natural world, but in your music as well, this is the music to get into).

Also, the new Radiohead album, which is every bit as awesome as it should be.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 16 2007,03:58   

Here's a treat for all you Zappa fans, especially fans of the really old stuff: two tracks from Larry "Wild Man" Fischer's 1968 debut album, An Evening with Wild Man Fischer (produced by FZ).

Larry & His Guitar
and
Circle

In order to get the full effect, download both mp3s and play them starting with "Larry & His Guitar" and let it segue into "Circle".

However, if you're familiar with Wild Man Fischer's other work and find it hard to consume, just download "Circle"; you won't be disappointed.

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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 16 2007,04:17   

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I recently opted for this sucker: http://www.davesmithinstruments.com/products/pek/index.php
instead of a fancy-pants stereo setup.

Woah..  now that's a keyboard.  

I'm listening to the samples on the page, and... I'm struck by how much this sounds like the soundtrack to the original Doctor Who series (unlike the fairly generic, obviously synthesized orchestral soundtrack of the new one).  Not just the music, but the trippy analog synth sound effects too.

I'd like to learn to play keyboards.  But I need to learn a lot about basic music theory, I'm completely ignorant in that area.

  
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I'm partial to the Roxy & Elsewhere and One Size Fits All period,

Yes.  If I could only take one Zappa album to the desert island, it would probably be One Size Fits All, or possibly You Can't Do That On Stage Any More vol. 2.

You should'a heard the Zappa Plays Zappa* live rendition of Andy. Absafuckinglutely awesome.

*Dweezil's band, currently touring and playing his father's music.

I hope to.  Monday night, Paramount, Seattle.

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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 16 2007,20:52   

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I recently opted for this sucker: http://www.davesmithinstruments.com/products/pek/index.php
instead of a fancy-pants stereo setup.

Woah..  now that's a keyboard.  

I'm listening to the samples on the page, and... I'm struck by how much this sounds like the soundtrack to the original Doctor Who series (unlike the fairly generic, obviously synthesized orchestral soundtrack of the new one).  Not just the music, but the trippy analog synth sound effects too.

I'd like to learn to play keyboards.  But I need to learn a lot about basic music theory, I'm completely ignorant in that area.

It's probably the most technologically advanced real analogue synthesizer on the market. There's also the Voyager by Moog http://www.moogmusic.com/detail.php?main_product_id=163  but it's overpriced and only has one voice, and the Andromeda by Alesis http://www.alesis.com/product.php?id=10 which has 16 voices, but is colder sounding and complex to program, and the new Prophet 8 by Dave Smith as well  http://www.davesmithinstruments.com/products/p8/index.php which has eight voices but lacks the insane sound-sculpting capabilities of the PolyEvolver.

The PolyEvolver rocks because it's an analogue/digital hybrid, with two digital oscillators complimenting the two real analogue oscillators. Plus it has Curtis Filters and a bunch of other crazy features, like Output Hack and Tuned Feedback and so forth.

The only thing more awesome than these kinds of boutique synthesizers are customized modular systems like the kind you can get from Synthesizers.com, or Buchla. But they're ridiculously expensive.

If you're getting into synthesizers, you don't need to have mad technical skills on the keyboard. You should know your scales and chord groups, and stuff, but it's really important to learn about synthesis and how to program the things, because that's where the real awesomeness lies. The absolute best newbie synth, no question, is the Alesis Ion http://www.alesis.com/product.php?id=9 It's not real analogue, but it sounds damn close, and its quality/features-to-price ratio is unheard of in the synth industry.

  
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I'm partial to the Roxy & Elsewhere and One Size Fits All period,

Yes.  If I could only take one Zappa album to the desert island, it would probably be One Size Fits All, or possibly You Can't Do That On Stage Any More vol. 2.

You should'a heard the Zappa Plays Zappa* live rendition of Andy. Absafuckinglutely awesome.

*Dweezil's band, currently touring and playing his father's music.

I hope to.  Monday night, Paramount, Seattle.

Don't miss it man. Don't miss it.

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Another analog source, plus a a shot of homebrew enclosure with University reciprocating flare horns (for reference, woofer is 15"). That's the way we used to do it.


The saddest person I ever encountered was a guy in my favorite audio store in the early 70s who had scrimped and saved for a long time to buy the JBL Paragon and then found that he couldn't get up the stairs to his apartment. Of course, Providence may have been on his side, as having one of those in an apartment might not have been thought a good idea by his neighbors.




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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 04 2007,22:14   

Stevestory's mention of "Bjork's a dork" got me thinking... my brother has a theory (and it's only a theory) that everyone likes at least one band/artist that they're ashamed to admit to liking. His example was Frankie Valli & the Four Seasons. When I told him I like Sweet (you know, of "Ballroom Blitz" fame), he said, "Yeah, I'd be ashamed, too."

Everyone laughs when I say I like ABBA, too. No Americans laugh when I say I like Boney M, though. They just say, "Boney who?".

I'm curious what other shameful musical secrets lurk in the hearts and eardrums of AtBC readers?

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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 04 2007,22:55   

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Stevestory's mention of "Bjork's a dork" got me thinking... my brother has a theory (and it's only a theory) that everyone likes at least one band/artist that they're ashamed to admit to liking. His example was Frankie Valli & the Four Seasons. When I told him I like Sweet (you know, of "Ballroom Blitz" fame), he said, "Yeah, I'd be ashamed, too."

Everyone laughs when I say I like ABBA, too. No Americans laugh when I say I like Boney M, though. They just say, "Boney who?".

I'm curious what other shameful musical secrets lurk in the hearts and eardrums of AtBC readers?

Abba appeals to my disco sensibilities, and the song writing was genius with respect to "the hook".

December '63 is a great feel-good tune and has a wah-wah driven middle eight. Good enough for me.

Ballroom blitz has a certain kitsch charm, but I can take or leave it.

Bjork scares the shit out of me, much like the Moomins. She may even be one. That said, just listen to the start of Play dead. David Arnold has written a song that is the perfect vehicle for her scando-warbling.
Bizarrely beautiful.

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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 04 2007,23:11   

I'll fess up.

I'm an 80s fan.

Depeche Mode, Tears for Fears, Annie Lennox, Dead or Alive, Madonna, Falco, Billy Idol, Lisa Lisa & Cult Jam, Wham!, Simple Minds, 'Til Tuesday, Frankie Goes to Hollywood, The Hooters, Howard Jones...

You get the point, I suppose.

I suspect it may be the attachments to particular immediately-post-fundy-holy-crap-i-got-laid-and-i-liked-it memories.  Well, that and the whole holy-crap-god-didn't-strike-me-dead thing, which was a plus.

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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 04 2007,23:14   

HAR HAR THIS IS YOU LOU.



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More my style at the time, I must admit.

ETA: My little brother still rubs that in, but in all honesty I'd wear that if my wife didn't have enough sense to stop me.

Edited by Lou FCD on Dec. 05 2007,00:33

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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 04 2007,23:37   

We should have a virtual Kitzmass fancy dress party.

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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 04 2007,23:37   

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Ballroom blitz has a certain kitsch charm, but I can take or leave it.

Almost all of Sweet's big hits were 100% kitsch, but they were good at what they do. What got me hooked on them was "The Man with the Golden Arm", their glam cover of Elmer Bernstein's score of the movie. Mick Tucker was a phenomenal drummer, and they picked a great song to showcase his talents.

I don't understand why so many bands try to cover "Ballroom Blitz", though.

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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 04 2007,23:58   

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I don't understand why so many bands try to cover "Ballroom Blitz", though.

Because it's easy to play?

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I don't understand why so many bands try to cover "Ballroom Blitz", though.

Because it's easy to play?

"Louie Louie" is a song that's easy to play and the worse a band plays it, it can still manage to capture the essence of the Kingsmen's version.

The Kinks' "You Really Got Me" is also easy to play, if it's played badly, it really shows.

I've heard covers of "Ballroom Blitz" ranging from metal to rockabilly, and they all sounded dull compared to the original. The only competent cover of it I've ever heard is Nina Hagen's version.

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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 05 2007,00:26   

Songs that are fun to cover, and a good reaction.

My Sharona
Hungry like the Wolf
YMCA (surprisingly well structured)
Stayin' Alive
Alright (Jamiroquai)
Ruby

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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 05 2007,00:47   

Quote (Richardthughes @ Dec. 05 2007,00:26)
Songs that are fun to cover, and a good reaction.

My Sharona
Hungry like the Wolf
YMCA (surprisingly well structured)
Stayin' Alive
Alright (Jamiroquai)
Ruby

I absolutely hate listening to "My Sharona", but I like playing it - I guess it's because of the reaction it gets. I like the Knack's "Good Girls Don't", though.

"Midnight Hour" is fun to play, too, but it can be hell for a bass player. I played bass in a band and whenever we did "Midnight Hour", it would fill the dance floor, so they'd stretch it out into some ten-minute monstrosity. The next song would have to be a ballad...

Another fun one is Bo Diddley's "You Can't Judge a Book By its Cover" - lots of stops and starts to play around with...

I've never been in a band that played 80s music, but if I was, I'd want to do Wall of Voodoo's "Mexican Radio". It's a fun song, and not hard to play at all.

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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 05 2007,09:04   

Quote (Mister DNA @ Dec. 04 2007,23:14)
Stevestory's mention of "Bjork's a dork" got me thinking... my brother has a theory (and it's only a theory) that everyone likes at least one band/artist that they're ashamed to admit to liking. His example was Frankie Valli & the Four Seasons. When I told him I like Sweet (you know, of "Ballroom Blitz" fame), he said, "Yeah, I'd be ashamed, too."

Everyone laughs when I say I like ABBA, too. No Americans laugh when I say I like Boney M, though. They just say, "Boney who?".

I'm curious what other shameful musical secrets lurk in the hearts and eardrums of AtBC readers?

My 2 guiltiest pleasures: Madonna: Ray of Light and Nelly Furtado: Whoa, Nelly!

And no, I'm not gay.

Typically I'm listening to 80's alternative or more modern drum/bass type electronic stuff.  Mainly I like smooth stuff, with a preference leaning to female vocalists:

Kosheen
Imogen Heap
Olive
Bittersweet
Massive Attack
A Guy Called Gerald
Hooverphonic

Currently playing in my car is a mix of songs from Katamri Damacy.

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YMCA (surprisingly well structured)



Hmmm.


Naaaaaah. Too easy.

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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 05 2007,09:26   

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YMCA (surprisingly well structured)


Hmmm.

Naaaaaah. Too easy.

You have higher standards than I do.



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 05 2007,09:26   

My main completely indefensible guilty musical pleasure:



Yes, the Guess Who. Those pasty, not-very-attractive Canadian guys. Randy Bachman who couldn't decide whether he was Jim Morrison or Mel Torme. Nothing conjures up early 70's AM radio in a boring California suburb better.

I chose this album (a) because it shows what a bunch of pasty, beer-fed midwesterners they were, and (b) it was photographed under Pacific Ocean Pier,, a now-defunct and completely erased massive recreational pier in Santa Monica, CA.

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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 06 2007,05:32   

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I'll fess up.

I'm an 80s fan.

Depeche Mode, Tears for Fears, Annie Lennox, Dead or Alive, Madonna, Falco, Billy Idol, Lisa Lisa & Cult Jam, Wham!, Simple Minds, 'Til Tuesday, Frankie Goes to Hollywood, The Hooters, Howard Jones...

Ouch! :angry:
Since when is liking Depeche Mode embarrassing?

The only disk in my collection I'm even slightly embarrassed about is the Communards. I did own an Oasis CD but I gave it away... 10 years later though i still feel dirty.
I went through my music buying peak late 80's to mid 90's starting from gothdom, sauntering through shoegazing indie and then slowly broadened my tastes after being lent a Tom Waits tape!

My CD consumption has really slumped in the last few years and I have a suspicion that I might be getting old as most new bands I hear sound bloody awful and/or all the same.
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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 06 2007,05:55   

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Ouch! :angry:
Since when is liking Depeche Mode embarrassing?

I asked this very question of my daughter, to which she replied, "since about the end of the eighties, Dad."*

Ouch.

Fortunately, my Milli Vanilli CD went missing years ago.  I don't even want to know what she'd say about that.

*Truth be told however, my love for all things 80s has rubbed off on her quite a bit, and she listens to a substantial amount of music I listened to post-BJU.**

**She does not however share my enthusiasm for women with big 80s hair clipped short on the side a la Lisa Lisa.



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 06 2007,09:19   

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Ouch! :angry:
Since when is liking Depeche Mode embarrassing?

I asked this very question of my daughter, to which she replied, "since about the end of the eighties, Dad."*

You should listen to her more closely, Lou.  :p

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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 06 2007,09:32   

Ain't NOTHIN to be ashamed of here.



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 06 2007,09:36   

Quote (nuytsia @ Dec. 06 2007,11:32)
Quote (Lou FCD @ Dec. 04 2007,15:11)
I'll fess up.

I'm an 80s fan.

Depeche Mode, Tears for Fears, Annie Lennox, Dead or Alive, Madonna, Falco, Billy Idol, Lisa Lisa & Cult Jam, Wham!, Simple Minds, 'Til Tuesday, Frankie Goes to Hollywood, The Hooters, Howard Jones...

Ouch! :angry:
Since when is liking Depeche Mode embarrassing?

The only disk in my collection I'm even slightly embarrassed about is the Communards. I did own an Oasis CD but I gave it away... 10 years later though i still feel dirty.
I went through my music buying peak late 80's to mid 90's starting from gothdom, sauntering through shoegazing indie and then slowly broadened my tastes after being lent a Tom Waits tape!

My CD consumption has really slumped in the last few years and I have a suspicion that I might be getting old as most new bands I hear sound bloody awful and/or all the same.
Still don't let me stop you youngsters enjoying yourselves
:p

Oh boy, I think an argument might be a' brewin'. What, exactly is wrong with Oasis?

Come on, spill the beans.

Oh, but I do like Depeche Mode. I'm also a big 80's man.

Oh, and my guilty pleasures? I have a few, actually. Depending upon who I talk to:

Elton John
Pet Shop Boys (no, I'm not gay either)
Lionel Ritchie/The Commodores
Jan Hammer
(apparently now) Oasis.
David Hasslehoff (more for comedy value than anything else, although he's not THAT bad a singer)
The Moody Blues (been to see them live once, was good)
Fleetwood Mac (almost entirely the later stuff(
The Mavericks

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Ain't NOTHIN to be ashamed of here.


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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 06 2007,10:10   

Well, I think that if you're going to listen to music that hasn't been fashionable for ages, don't do it in a halfassed way:




PS: Listening to the Pet Shop Boys makes you gay, even if you weren't before. Not that there's anything wrong with that.

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Ain't NOTHIN to be ashamed of here.




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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 06 2007,11:11   

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Well, I think that if you're going to listen to music that hasn't been fashionable for ages, don't do it in a halfassed way:




PS: Listening to the Pet Shop Boys makes you gay, even if you weren't before. Not that there's anything wrong with that.

But that's not exactly what we're talking about here, is it.  Anyone who's embarrassed about liking the Hot Five/Seven should seek psychiatric help, pronto.

When I'm in charge, anyone who doesn't have this is going to be denied tenure.

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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 06 2007,11:57   

Apparently, Timmi Toler hit the 80s vinyl jackpot.

(Scroll down through the pics to see what gems she found.)

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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 06 2007,23:42   

Since it's almost that time of year, I reckon we should all talk about our favourite Christmas songs (oh yes FtK, I may be an atheist librul, but I can't help liking this time of year. Fortunately, the holiday has been taken over, like most holidays, by crass commercialism, and while I'm anti-capitalist as well, I can't suppress all my greed).

My two favourite Christmas classics are: Jona Lewie. Stop the Cavalry (not exactly an X-mas song, but it's pretty much one now)

Fairytale of New York, The Pouges ft. Kirsty MacColl.

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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 07 2007,00:58   

Quote (IanBrown_101 @ Dec. 06 2007,23:42)
Since it's almost that time of year, I reckon we should all talk about our favourite Christmas songs (oh yes FtK, I may be an atheist librul, but I can't help liking this time of year. Fortunately, the holiday has been taken over, like most holidays, by crass commercialism, and while I'm anti-capitalist as well, I can't suppress all my greed).

My two favourite Christmas classics are: Jona Lewie. Stop the Cavalry (not exactly an X-mas song, but it's pretty much one now)

Fairytale of New York, The Pouges ft. Kirsty MacColl.

My absolute favorite Christmas music is The Phil Spector Christmas Album, but it just isn't Christmas until I've heard Bing Crosby sing Mele Kalikimaka.

Here's some other favorites:

The Kinks - Father Christmas

Run DMC - Christmas in Hollis

Chuck Berry - Run Rudolph Run

Ramones - Merry Christmas (I Don't Want to Fight)

Monty Python - Christmas in Heaven

Slade - Merry Christmas Everybody

Even kiddie diddlers can make a good Christmas song - Another Rock & Roll Christmas

And of course, no Christmas is complete without this timeless Holiday classic from Fear

Edited to add: I heart Kirsty MacColl - her version of Days is wonderful.

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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 07 2007,03:57   

Quote (IanBrown_101 @ Dec. 06 2007,23:42)
Since it's almost that time of year, I reckon we should all talk about our favourite Christmas songs

The best Christmas song evah is I Want a Hippopotamus for Christmas!!!1!!!111!!



On Christmas Day, though, we generally play Johnny Mathis and Bing Crosby.  And starting last year, Chris Isaak.

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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 07 2007,04:35   

Quote (IanBrown_101 @ Dec. 06 2007,01:36)

Oh boy, I think an argument might be a' brewin'. What, exactly is wrong with Oasis?

Come on, spill the beans.

ooopps ???  .... okay fair question....
for me it's not one single thing. It's

1) They can't sing.
2) Their lyrics are truly awful.
3) It's all too samey.
4) Their sound isn't particularly original.

No one or two of these attributes is necessarily  bad, - I like
1) Morrissey
2) Pop Will Eat Itself
3) Cocteau Twins
4) Loop
- but Oasis fall at all four hurdles?

Still do bear in mind I'm just an ex-shoegazing goth!  ;)
     
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Oh, and my guilty pleasures? I have a few, actually. Depending upon who I talk to:

Elton John
Pet Shop Boys (no, I'm not gay either)
Lionel Ritchie/The Commodores
Jan Hammer
(apparently now) Oasis.

Someone was bound to point out that Oasis are piss poor sooner or later. Just truly sorry it had to be me.   :p

Pet Shop Boys are an interesting case. I never liked them till they covered "You were always on my mind", a song that I also dislike intensely. For some reason the track just clicked and my attitude softened. Strange.

Edited to add - (cos it's teh nu sex)
As others feel the necessity to out that there straight - I'll just say I'm not gay either, but according to my ex I make a good proxy lesbian. What a sweety!

   
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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 07 2007,06:01   

Quote (nuytsia @ Dec. 07 2007,04:35)
an ex-shoegazing goth!  ;)
   

Whats one of them then?

As for Oasis, they were derivative yes, but were part of whatever you call thatpop movement in the 90's when I was at uni and not listening to it except when my flatmates played it loud.  I have heard people say that Blur etc were doing far more interesting unusual things, and I suppose that is correct, yet at the same time good music isn't all about doing new stuff.  So my general poinion is Oasis were ok for a couple of albums, but were never great, i.e. groundbreaking and important.

I reccomend "Within temptation" if you like kind og gothic rock stuff that sounds good.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 07 2007,06:10   

Quote (guthrie @ Dec. 07 2007,07:01)
Whats one of them then?

Click.

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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 07 2007,07:04   

Quote (Lou FCD @ Dec. 06 2007,22:10)
   
Quote (guthrie @ Dec. 07 2007,07:01)
Whats one of them then?

Click.

Lol!

Can I just say in my defense that I was, even at that tender age, far to cynical to behave like that!
I was, as I recall, a gippy (gothic hippy)
So you start here then move to here, give yourself a slap and move on to this.

Good god I've never seen the video to that Chapterhouse track. Aren't they such sweet boys. You just want to take them home and eat them all up...  :D

   
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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 07 2007,11:58   

A gippy? Now how the f*** do black, skulls, 18th century style clothing (for the girls at least) combine with happiness, bright green, yellow, blue etc etc and flowers correspond to each other??
Besides, that Southpark kid isn't a goth, he's an emo.
Anyway, I "spin" so much different stuff it's almost schizofrenic. I like this, I'm the only one I know in real life who actually listens this and this wich is pretty normal for my age but this ain't and also this ain't considerd normal for my age too.
And well, that's only a start ;)
In total it would be, well the main genres: taiko, hardstyle, classical, trance/dance, jazz, metal and hardrock, disco (yea that 70's stuff) and much much more.
Now don't tell me this ain't original for 17 year old! Only possible because of the internetzzz ofcourse, huzzah for Limewire.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 07 2007,18:59   

We put up the tree this evening, while listening to Chipmunks Roasting on an Open Fire, by Bob Rivers.

Good stuff.

I'm rather partial to Who Put the Stump?, a parody of Barry Mann's 1961 Who put the Bomp?

 
Quote (The Angel atop the Tree @ Christmas Day, 2000)
I'd like to find the guy
Who done me wrong
And stuck my butt up
On this Christmas tree.

Who put the stump
In my rump-ba-bump-ba-bump?
Who took and jammed it
In my ram-a-lam-a-ding dong?
Who stood the wood
Where I poop-she-poop-she-poop?
Who put the stick
Up my hipty-dipty-dip?

Who was that man?
He shoved it up my can
And left me stranded on this Christmas tree. (Yeah ...)

When this angel heard
Chop-ba-ba-bop, di-chop-ba-ba-bop,
A dreadful fear went right into my heart.
Those pine tree needles sting me,
Ram-a-jam-a-ram-a-jammin' near my ding dong.
You'll never know how much that smarts. (Hooah ...)

So who put the stump
In my rump-ba-bump-ba-bump?
Who took and jammed it
In my ram-a-lam-a-ding dong?
Who stood the wood
Where I poop-she-poop-she-poop?
Who put the stick
Up my hipty-dipty-dip?

Who took that bush
And crammed it in my tush?
He made this angel beg for mercy, please. (Yow ...)

Each night when I'm alone,
Scratchity scratchity scratchity scratchity
Scratchity scratchity shoop ...
It sets my tiny bottom all aglow.
And every time I wiggle,
Slipty-din-de-din, slipty-din-de-din,
A little further in it goes. (Ohhh/Yeah ...)

(Rump-ba-bump-ba-bump
Ram-a-lam-a ding dong
Slipty-din-de-din
Poopity poopity shoop ...)


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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 07 2007,20:23   

Do we have any ATBC folks out there that live in Vancouver?

I am sitting here drinking beer and listening to Americana / alt-country music on Boot Liquor on SomaFM Internet radio and pondering the fact that Vancouver seems to have a pretty good music scene.  When I normally think of alt-country, I think of Texas and artists like Steve Earle, Townes Van Zandt, and Robert Earl Keen.  But, I am finding myself coming across alot of good music coming out of Vancouver.  The Vancouver artists on my radar screen right now are Neko Case, The Be Good Tanyas, and El Dorado.

Any other good alt-country groups out there in BC?

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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 07 2007,21:22   

Greatest xmas song evah: 'Hey Santa Claus' by the Moonglows.



Best xmas movie evah: 'Bad Santa':



 
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Willie: [the kid on his lap stares blankly at him] Well, what do you want? Great. Another fucking Mongoloid. Marcus, get this kid off me before he pisses on me, all right? What the fuck are you doing, Don't fuck with my beard.
Kid: Its not real.
Willie: No shit.
Willie: Ya see, it was real, but then Santa got sick and all the hair fell out, so I have to wear this fucking thing.
Kid: How did you get sick?
Willie: I loved a woman who wasn't clean.
Kid: Mrs. Santa?
Kid: No, it was her sister.


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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 07 2007,23:05   

I have a soft spot for this one:



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 07 2007,23:07   

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I have a soft spot for this one:


And so you should, as Jimmy Stewart is the best actor ever.  

That said, I still am going to pop Bad(der) Santa into the DVD right now.

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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 14 2007,18:33   

I can't stop listening to Bjork's Earth Intruders. There's something transcendental about this song. It's Great with a capital G. I don't know why. But I'm in the presence of something beyond my understanding.

   
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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 14 2007,18:36   

Quote (carlsonjok @ Dec. 07 2007,21:23)
Do we have any ATBC folks out there that live in Vancouver?

I am sitting here drinking beer and listening to Americana / alt-country music on Boot Liquor on SomaFM Internet radio and pondering the fact that Vancouver seems to have a pretty good music scene.  When I normally think of alt-country, I think of Texas and artists like Steve Earle, Townes Van Zandt, and Robert Earl Keen.  But, I am finding myself coming across alot of good music coming out of Vancouver.  The Vancouver artists on my radar screen right now are Neko Case, The Be Good Tanyas, and El Dorado.

Any other good alt-country groups out there in BC?

Dude, Neko Case is seriously good stuff. PM me and I'll email you some songs.

   
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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 17 2007,06:45   

Quote (Dan Fogelberg @ The Innocent Age, 1981)
The leader of the band is tired
And his eyes are growing old
But his blood runs through
My instrument
And his song is in my soul --
My life has been a poor attempt
To imitate the man
Im just a living legacy
To the leader of the band
I am the living legacy
To the leader of the band.


Sadly, the Dan Folgelberg's instrument is now forever silent.

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NEW YORK (AP) -- Dan Fogelberg, the singer and songwriter whose hits "Leader of the Band" and "Same Old Lang Syne" helped define the soft-rock era, died Sunday at his home in Maine after battling prostate cancer. He was 56.

His death was announced Sunday on the singer's Web site.

"Dan left us this morning at 6 a.m. He fought a brave battle with cancer and died peacefully at home in Maine with his wife, Jean, at his side," it read. "His strength, dignity and grace in the face of the daunting challenges of this disease were an inspiration to all who knew him."

Fogelberg discovered he had advanced prostate cancer in 2004. In a statement then, he thanked fans for their support: "It is truly overwhelming and humbling to realize how many lives my music has touched so deeply all these years. ... I thank you from the very depths of my heart."

Fogelberg's music was powerful in its simplicity. He didn't rely on the volume of his voice to convey his emotions; instead, they came through in the soft, tender delivery and his poignant lyrics. Songs like "Same Old Lang Syne" -- in which a man reminisces after meeting an old girlfriend by chance during the holidays -- became classics not only because of his performance, but also for the engaging storyline.


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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 17 2007,10:01   

Here's an oldie but a goodie:

Funky Cold Madonna

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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 21 2007,02:02   

I think i'm going to need help. I can't stop listening to Earth Intruders. The off-beat stuff is just cosmically wonderful. It might be the greatest song of all time.

   
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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 21 2007,02:19   

I can't explain it. I feel like a guy who's always liked figurative painting, like Rembrandt, Michaelangelo, etc, who's confronted by Guernica, and feels it's great, but can't explain why. It violates the rules, but there's something fantastic there, and it's troubling.

   
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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 21 2007,07:23   

Since we have had recent posts on favorite Christmas music and alt-country, I thought I'd share this little gem that I had forgotten about.

Merry Christmas From the Family by Robert Earl Keen.

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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 21 2007,19:19   

Well here's my entry for a Christmas song. Prepare to shed real human tears.  :p

Not having a TV or Radio I hadn't heard "Earth Intruders" so I had a look at the video on YouTube. Pretty cool, but am I the only person to be reminded of this whilst listening to it?

   
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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 29 2007,20:36   

Arden's post on the Young Cosmos thread reminded me of a Christmas song... a lounge version of "What Child is This" sung to the tune of "Sweet Child O' Mine".

Listen to it here.

If you wanna download it... here.

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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 01 2008,22:25   

Songs in Winamp right now:

Delerium - Fallen Icons
Jill Scott - One is the Magic Number
Dar Williams - After All
Over the Rhine - All I Need is Everything
Bjork - Earth Intruders

   
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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 01 2008,22:27   

Quote (Mister DNA @ Dec. 29 2007,21:36)
Arden's post on the Young Cosmos thread reminded me of a Christmas song... a lounge version of "What Child is This" sung to the tune of "Sweet Child O' Mine".

Listen to it here.

If you wanna download it... here.

You've heard the Richard Cheese lounge version of Disturbed's Down With the Sickness, no?

   
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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 01 2008,22:32   

this loungey version of Sweet Child of Mine is not bad. Have to prefer the Axl Rose version, though, at least, before he ruined his voice.

   
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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 01 2008,22:33   

Steve dances like Axl, with his dodgy "sideways crab-weave" as his mullet flows in the breeze.

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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 01 2008,22:35   

Also got a cover of Sweet Child o' Mine by Luna, if anyone wants it.

   
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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 01 2008,22:37   

Quote (stevestory @ Jan. 01 2008,22:27)
Quote (Mister DNA @ Dec. 29 2007,21:36)
Arden's post on the Young Cosmos thread reminded me of a Christmas song... a lounge version of "What Child is This" sung to the tune of "Sweet Child O' Mine".

Listen to it here.

If you wanna download it... here.

You've heard the Richard Cheese lounge version of Disturbed's Down With the Sickness, no?

I don't think so... however, Binsearch turned up about 5 Richard Cheese albums, so I'm gonna check it out...

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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 01 2008,22:42   

PM me your email address

   
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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 01 2008,22:46   

Quote (stevestory @ Jan. 01 2008,22:27)
Quote (Mister DNA @ Dec. 29 2007,21:36)
Arden's post on the Young Cosmos thread reminded me of a Christmas song... a lounge version of "What Child is This" sung to the tune of "Sweet Child O' Mine".

Listen to it here.

If you wanna download it... here.

You've heard the Richard Cheese lounge version of Disturbed's Down With the Sickness, no?

Okay, I have heard this - it was in the soundtrack of the Dawn of the Dead remake, wasn't it?

For some reason, I thought that was a band called Lounge Against The Machine...

I've got "Come Recline with Black Velvet Flag", which features Lounge/Easy Listening versions of old school punk songs like Suicidal Tendencies' "Institutionalized", Fear's "I Don't Care About You", etc.

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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 08 2008,13:21   

Oh, my. This should be interesting.

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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 10 2008,17:50   

Spinning:



Played on:

Linn Sondek LP12 Turntable

 :)

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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 10 2008,18:17   

Quote (KCdgw @ Jan. 10 2008,18:50)
Spinning:



Played on:

Linn Sondek LP12 Turntable

 :)

Holy shit! I used to own that LP. (What ever happened to it?) I purchased it after ELP hit it big. I don't recall much about it other than disliking the sound quality, and thinking that that the Pathetique was a hopeless mish-mash. But that was in the early 70s, when I too was a hopeless mish-mash.

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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 10 2008,22:35   

Quote (Reciprocating Bill @ Jan. 10 2008,18:17)

I've been getting into The Nice again lately. This particular album has 'My Back Pages", "Hang on to a Dream", and a great live version of "America", which ends suddenly after a wild cacaphony of sound, and leaves the audience stunned and in silence for a few seconds.

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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 11 2008,20:16   

Now spinning - or more accurately, just spun (because it demands undivided attention):

Frank Zappa: Civilization Phaze III, disc 1.

God, what a genius he was.

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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 11 2008,20:22   

speaking of geniuii




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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 18 2008,09:42   

Time for those fun 80s popsters, Duran Duran.

Does anyone else read these lyrics as 'atheist'?

 
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What Happens Tomorrow"

[Verse One:]
Child, don't you worry
It's enough you're growing up in such a hurry
Brings you down, the news they sell you
To put in your mind that all mankind is a failure

[Chorus:]
But nobody knows what's gonna happen tomorrow
We try not to show how frightened we are
If you let me - I'll protect you - however I can
You've got to believe it'll be alright in the end
You've got to believe it'll be alright again

[Verse Two:]
Fighting because we're so close
There are times we punish those who we need the most
Though we can't wait for a saviour
Only got ourselves to blame for this behaviour

[Chorus:]
And nobody knows what's gonna happen tomorrow
We try not to show how frightened we are
It would seem lonely - if you were the only - star in the night?
You've got to believe it'll be alright in the end
You've got to believe it'll be alright again

[Guitar Solo]

[Final Chorus:]
And nobody knows what's gonna happen tomorrow
So don't let go, now we've come this far
Hold my hand please, understand me - we're never alone

We've got to believe it'll be alright in the end
(Nobody knows)
You've got to believe it'll be alright my friend
(Nobody knows)
And yes we believe it'll be alright again


 
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"None of the Above"

I am I myself alone,
Realise, I never need to use no-one.
When it comes down to my soul,
Freedom puts my faith in none of the above

There was a time I was so afraid
Of everything people around me said
That I wanted to hide my face in the shadows

There was a time on a bed of nails
I was dreaming a plan I thought could not fail
But no power under the sun, could pull it together

I can't take this attitude
Got to show now I got to move on
God knows where I'm going to
Its a lonely burning question

I am I myself alone
Realise I never need to use no-one
Money, power, holy roads,
Freedom puts my faith in none of the above


If there's a time, that we ever see
The nature of life in reality
Then I want to be there -
To kick at the answer

I can't take this attitude
Got to show now I got to move on
God knows where I'm going to
Its a lonely burning question


I am I myself alone
Realize I never need to use no-one
Money, power, holy roads,
Freedom puts my faith in none of the above

(chorus)

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I am I myself alone
Realize I never need to use no-one
Money, power, holy road,
Freedom puts my faith in none of the above

(chorus)

(None of the above)
(My faith in none of the above)
(None of the above)
(I stand by none of the above)
(None of the above)
(I stand by none of the above)



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 18 2008,19:46   

But then again there's Duran Duran's "New Religion".. some of the lyrics sound almost ID:

"Okay, my reasoning might be clouded by the sun
But someone sees the departmental lie"

Then again, the line after it is:

"You know this peacetime jabbing fist in stabbing knife
Only get one look before you die"

I find it difficult to interpret that as meaning anything.

I'm not even touching Electric Barberella.

This reminds me that I need to rip a bunch of my Duran Duran CDs and put them on my Ipod, though.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 19 2008,11:18   

Another shot of my fine, fine, super fine vintage system:



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 19 2008,11:47   

Lots of early reflections there, Bill.

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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 19 2008,12:42   

Building such a system isn't easy:



(Mad Magazine, 1958)

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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 19 2008,20:20   

Is there a rap song with amusingly weirder lyrics than Scarface's No Tears?

   
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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 19 2008,21:50   

I'm watching Woodstock on the Wayback Machine.

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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 19 2008,23:14   

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I'm watching Woodstock on the Wayback Machine.

Well, I fell asleep. That's what 40 years will do to you.

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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 19 2008,23:32   

Quote (Reciprocating Bill @ Jan. 19 2008,23:14)
Quote (Reciprocating Bill @ Jan. 19 2008,22:50)
I'm watching Woodstock on the Wayback Machine.

Well, I fell asleep. That's what 40 years will do to you.

I'm a big Hedrix fan, but TSSB is over-rated, IMHO.

less concept, more music, Jimi.

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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 19 2008,23:47   

Quote (stevestory @ Jan. 19 2008,20:20)
Is there a rap song with amusingly weirder lyrics than Scarface's No Tears?

The Diary is a great album - I like "Hand of the Dead Body", but I like Scarface's stuff with the Geto Boys a lot more. Bushwick came up with some really goofy rhymes:
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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 20 2008,00:01   

Quote (Mister DNA @ Jan. 20 2008,00:47)
Quote (stevestory @ Jan. 19 2008,20:20)
Is there a rap song with amusingly weirder lyrics than Scarface's No Tears?

The Diary is a great album - I like "Hand of the Dead Body", but I like Scarface's stuff with the Geto Boys a lot more. Bushwick came up with some really goofy rhymes:
 
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... beware 'cause I'm sick - dead heads and frog legs - mmmm, cake mix


Are you into Wu Tang? I've been listening to their new one - their cover of "While My Guitar Gently Weeps" is pretty funny.

Bushwick is really...something.

"I wasn't born, I was found on a fuckin' train."

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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 20 2008,00:04   

Quote (Mister DNA @ Jan. 20 2008,00:47)
Are you into Wu Tang? I've been listening to their new one - their cover of "While My Guitar Gently Weeps" is pretty funny.

LOL. New Irish guy at work named Keron. Scene from last Thursday:

Our Boss: "You guys are like brothers. It's spooky."
Me: "Well, Cash does move everything around me."
Keron: "Cream, get the money."
Me: "Dolla Dolla Bill y'all."
Our Boss: "Uh, whatever. How's that buffer overflow?"
Keron: "We found it."

   
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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 20 2008,00:20   

Quote (stevestory @ Jan. 20 2008,00:04)
Quote (Mister DNA @ Jan. 20 2008,00:47)
Are you into Wu Tang? I've been listening to their new one - their cover of "While My Guitar Gently Weeps" is pretty funny.

LOL. New Irish guy at work named Keron. Scene from last Thursday:

Our Boss: "You guys are like brothers. It's spooky."
Me: "Well, Cash does move everything around me."
Keron: "Cream, get the money."
Me: "Dolla Dolla Bill y'all."
Our Boss: "Uh, whatever. How's that buffer overflow?"
Keron: "We found it."

heh... that makes me think of "Wu Tang Financial" from The Chapelle Show. "You need to diversify, bitches!"

If you haven't heard that Wu Tang cover of "While My Guitar Gently" weeps, it's at YouTube, or holler if you want the mp3.

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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 20 2008,06:08   

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Quote (Reciprocating Bill @ Jan. 19 2008,22:50)
I'm watching Woodstock on the Wayback Machine.

Well, I fell asleep. That's what 40 years will do to you.

I'm a big Hedrix fan, but TSSB is over-rated, IMHO.

less concept, more music, Jimi.

He does Purple Haze, too. And that upside-down guitar technique is something to see.

He had a lot of early promise, but he hasn't done much of anything since 1970 or so.

VH1 electronically striped out all the bare asses and boobs, while leaving the panic attacks unedited. I'm gonna have to get the DVD for real time travel.

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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 20 2008,06:40   

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He had a lot of early promise, but he hasn't done much of anything since 1970 or so.

He's such a slacker.

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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 20 2008,08:02   

My cousing borrowed my sleeping bag for the Woodstock concert...when I got it back, it looked like a Drakes Yodel!  Had to weigh about 40 lbs.

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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 20 2008,11:13   

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My cousing borrowed my sleeping bag for the Woodstock concert...when I got it back, it looked like a Drakes Yodel!  Had to weigh about 40 lbs.

You probably could still get high just sleeping in it a night or so.

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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 22 2008,09:28   

Quote (Reciprocating Bill @ Jan. 20 2008,06:08)
He does Purple Haze, too. And that upside-down guitar technique is something to see.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tritone


Devils music, I tells ya.

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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 22 2008,16:05   

Quote (Richardthughes @ Jan. 22 2008,10:28)
Quote (Reciprocating Bill @ Jan. 20 2008,06:08)
He does Purple Haze, too. And that upside-down guitar technique is something to see.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tritone


Devils music, I tells ya.

Hardly.  If you want Devil's music, you're gonna have to do better than that.

For starters, I would recommend Born With a Tail by the Supersuckers.

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 02 2008,22:43   

Brahms: Piano Concerto No. 2, Leon Fleisher/George Szell and the Cleveland Orchestra, on vinyl, probably recorded in the early '60s.

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 04 2008,18:39   

A friend of mine informed me I should listen to XTC, a band I had previously had minimal contact with. I was VERY impressed. Intelligent lyrics, and tunes you can hum. Well worth a look.

Also, I'm a huge fan of The Beautiful South, and the former band of the genius behind them Paul Heaton, The Housemartins (who had Fatboy Slim as their bassist)  who are (shock horror!) a Christian rock band. Their really smart, witty and very talented, with a number of their songs being either pro Christian (I even enjoy these, great music to burn churches to), pro Marxist or both.

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 04 2008,19:09   

Another interesting band playing from a Christian perspective is Pedro the Lion. "Control" is the CD I've heard a lot.

(That's the advantage of having kids - I get to hear a lot of stuff I'd probably otherwise not encounter.)

But now spinning? Mendelssohn's Italian Symphony, George Szell and the Cleveland Orchestra, recorded 1962, pristine vinyl.

ETA: on to side two: Schubert's "Unfinished" Symphony, recorded 1960.

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 04 2008,19:13   

Oh, and now spinning, the Matt Berry album Opium.

Matt Berry is a British comedian who recorded this (his second) semi-comical album of what is basically prog rock ish....it's hard to define. It's also almost impossible to find.

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 06 2008,04:14   

Thought I'd blow the dust off this one with something a little different from what has gone before. Anyone out there an opera fan? I'm looking to soak up as much as I can, since being properly introduced to it about 6 months to a year back (I'd known a few songs and such, but I went to see a double feature and I loved it). I've been looking for operas to try, first by looking up a few of the songs, and then if I like them, trying to find a performance I can get to and afford.

Any particular songs or performers people like, in fact? I'm a fan of Pavarotti, Domingo and Bocelli, but I recently found Caruso and I warmed to his style instantly.

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 10 2008,00:12   

Dr. John's Gumbo album. You can almost smell the crawfish and okra while it's playing...

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 10 2008,01:13   

Neil Young's Tonight's the Night, possibly his greatest.



Dave Marsh normally annoys me a lot, but his descriptions of this album are pretty apt:

 
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"The music has a feeling of offhand, first-take crudity matched recently only by Blood on the Tracks, almost as though Young wanted us to miss its ultimate majesty in order to emphasize its ragged edge of desolation. [...] More than any of Young's earlier songs and albums-even the despondent On the Beach and the mordant, rancorous Time Fades Away -- Tonight's the Night is preoccupied with death and disaster. [...] There is no sense of retreat, no apology, no excuses offered and no quarter given. If anything, these are the old ideas with a new sense of aggressiveness. The jitteriness of the music, its sloppy, unarranged (but decidedly structured) feeling is clearly calculated."

In a followup review published ten years later, Marsh wrote:

"The record chronicles the post-hippie, post-Vietnam demise of counterculture idealism, and a generation's long, slow trickle down the drain through drugs, violence, and twisted sexuality. This is Young's only conceptually cohesive record, and it's a great one."


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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 10 2008,09:33   

So, I've started a musical project with a friend.

Watch out for Texas Chainstore Manager in an empty lounge in a crappy bar nowhere near you!


There's a bluelight special on the dance floor!

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 10 2008,11:11   

Quote (Richardthughes @ Mar. 10 2008,09:33)
So, I've started a musical project with a friend.

Watch out for Texas Chainstore Manager in an empty lounge in a crappy bar nowhere near you!


There's a bluelight special on the dance floor!

Not that I am threatening to actually go bar-hopping and see you or anything,  but what's the house policy on drunken hecklers?

And try not to focus on that time I trashed that place, before I even had a beer.  I think it was a just a bad year or something...

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 10 2008,12:07   

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Quote (Richardthughes @ Mar. 10 2008,09:33)
So, I've started a musical project with a friend.

Watch out for Texas Chainstore Manager in an empty lounge in a crappy bar nowhere near you!


There's a bluelight special on the dance floor!

Not that I am threatening to actually go bar-hopping and see you or anything,  but what's the house policy on drunken hecklers?

And try not to focus on that time I trashed that place, before I even had a beer.  I think it was a just a bad year or something...

We're still in the studio at the moment. Watch this space!

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 18 2008,13:38   

Splurged and bought me a copy of this puppy:



71 tracks. That should keep me busy for a while. Some of the really early tracks are amazingly distorted even by James' standards.

TWO versions of the totally insane "Hawaiian Boogie", and THREE takes of "Elmo's Shuffle"!

As Zappa aptly said, "Elmore kept playing the same lick over and over, but I get the feeling he meant it".

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 18 2008,19:33   

Quote (Arden Chatfield @ Mar. 18 2008,13:38)
Splurged and bought me a copy of this puppy:



71 tracks. That should keep me busy for a while. Some of the really early tracks are amazingly distorted even by James' standards.

TWO versions of the totally insane "Hawaiian Boogie", and THREE takes of "Elmo's Shuffle"!

As Zappa aptly said, "Elmore kept playing the same lick over and over, but I get the feeling he meant it".

That looks like a sweet set. I've got the 2-Disc King of the Slide Guitar set, which I received for my birthday ages ago. Great stuff.

The Zappa quote reminds me of a comic strip I once saw in Guitar Player magazine. Two guys were watching a punk band play, and one guy says, "Man, these guys suck! The guitar player is playing the same chord over and over!". The other concert-goer replies, "Hey, you know how Clapton and all those other guys were always looking for the Perfect Chord? This dude found it!"

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 18 2008,20:06   

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That looks like a sweet set. I've got the 2-Disc King of the Slide Guitar set, which I received for my birthday ages ago. Great stuff.


Indeed, some of his best cuts are on that, like Shake Your Moneymaker and his demented version of Rollin and Tumblin. Those are from the second half of his career, which is much better documented on CD for some reason. The set I bought nails his first several years. But James was extremely consistent, so it's all good.

I've owned most of his stuff on LP since the early 80's, including some of the really crude late-60's Kent LP's that came without an inner sleeve. But I'm slowly shifting to CD. Oddly I once found a vintage mint 45 of It Hurts Me Too in a junk store in San Francisco, and it sounds better and fuller than any LP *or* CD.  ???

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 18 2008,21:06   

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That looks like a sweet set. I've got the 2-Disc King of the Slide Guitar set, which I received for my birthday ages ago. Great stuff.


Indeed, some of his best cuts are on that, like Shake Your Moneymaker and his demented version of Rollin and Tumblin. Those are from the second half of his career, which is much better documented on CD for some reason. The set I bought nails his first several years. But James was extremely consistent, so it's all good.

I've owned most of his stuff on LP since the early 80's, including some of the really crude late-60's Kent LP's that came without an inner sleeve. But I'm slowly shifting to CD. Oddly I once found a vintage mint 45 of It Hurts Me Too in a junk store in San Francisco, and it sounds better and fuller than any LP *or* CD.  ???

Damn, that brings back some great memories. When I lived in S.F., every payday meant a trip to Tower Records or taking the BART out to Down Home Records in El Cerrito.

It was in the late 80s that MCA acquired the Chess catalog, and they started putting out not only box sets, but reissuing all those old "Real Folk Blues" albums from the 60s.

That was my introduction to Elmore James; I picked up the "Whose Muddy Shoes" album: 9 Elmore James Chess sides and 6 John Brim Chess sides, including the original version of "Ice Cream Man". I had been listening to a lot of George Thorogood's old (pre-Bad to the Bone) albums, so Elmore James was a revelation.

btw, the King of the Slide Guitar box has James' version of "Person to Person" - Screamin' Jay Hawkins does a great version, too.

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 18 2008,21:16   

Quote (IanBrown_101 @ Mar. 06 2008,04:14)
Thought I'd blow the dust off this one with something a little different from what has gone before. Anyone out there an opera fan? I'm looking to soak up as much as I can, since being properly introduced to it about 6 months to a year back (I'd known a few songs and such, but I went to see a double feature and I loved it). I've been looking for operas to try, first by looking up a few of the songs, and then if I like them, trying to find a performance I can get to and afford.

Any particular songs or performers people like, in fact? I'm a fan of Pavarotti, Domingo and Bocelli, but I recently found Caruso and I warmed to his style instantly.

Anyone interested in opera should see if the Metropolitan Opera live video broadcasts are playing at a theater nearby.

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 18 2008,21:33   

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That looks like a sweet set. I've got the 2-Disc King of the Slide Guitar set, which I received for my birthday ages ago. Great stuff.


Indeed, some of his best cuts are on that, like Shake Your Moneymaker and his demented version of Rollin and Tumblin. Those are from the second half of his career, which is much better documented on CD for some reason. The set I bought nails his first several years. But James was extremely consistent, so it's all good.

I've owned most of his stuff on LP since the early 80's, including some of the really crude late-60's Kent LP's that came without an inner sleeve. But I'm slowly shifting to CD. Oddly I once found a vintage mint 45 of It Hurts Me Too in a junk store in San Francisco, and it sounds better and fuller than any LP *or* CD.  ???

Damn, that brings back some great memories. When I lived in S.F., every payday meant a trip to Tower Records or taking the BART out to Down Home Records in El Cerrito.

If you took BART to Downhome much in the late 80's, we probably saw each other. I used to tithe an embarassing chunk of my income there from 1986-1988. Before that I was in LA ('81-'85) where I haunted the old Rhino Records in Westwood, when it was a little hole in the wall with the most arrogant clerks imaginable. (Think Jack Black in High Fidelity.) If they liked your purchase, they would grant your coolness. If you bought something that offended their sensibilities, they wouldn't hesitate to sneer at you. They approved of my Stooges and JB Lenoir LPs, but lord would they give me shit over any British Invasion LPs.

But that was back in the days when a new bestselling album came out that they disapproved of, they would write insulting comments on the shrink wrap with magic marker ON THE DISPLAY COPIES. The main records I remember them doing that to were Michael Jackson's 'Bad' and some LP or other by Ratt. They'd *sell* the LPs, but they wanted to make sure it was as humilating an experience for the customer as possible.

     
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It was in the late 80s that MCA acquired the Chess catalog, and they started putting out not only box sets, but reissuing all those old "Real Folk Blues" albums from the 60s.


That was a huge relief -- in the early 80's you could still get most of those Chess LPs, but usually only as fake-stereo French imports. That's how I was able to buy Got My Own Bag of Tricks by Bo Diddley and Howlin Wolf's Rocking Chair album circa 1981. But the MCA's had better sound for half the cost. Their circa-1985 Chuck Berry LP was a godsend.

     
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That was my introduction to Elmore James; I picked up the "Whose Muddy Shoes" album: 9 Elmore James Chess sides and 6 John Brim Chess sides, including the original version of "Ice Cream Man". I had been listening to a lot of George Thorogood's old (pre-Bad to the Bone) albums, so Elmore James was a revelation.


Yeah, I still have an ancient MCA vinyl copy of that. 'Tool Bag Boogie' and the title track are the standouts, I think.

Right now I'm trying to figger out which of the SIX takes of 'Strange Kinda Feeling' deserves to go on my ipod.

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 18 2008,21:57   

god that's boring.

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 18 2008,22:03   

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god that's boring.

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 18 2008,22:24   

It looks like we probably ran in the same circles. I lived in Redondo Beach '85-'87 and San Francisco '87-'89.

I never made it to Rhino records, but I used to go to Bleeker Bob's on Melrose when I was in LA proper, and there were two great used record stores with a few blocks of the bungalow in Redondo.

The clerks at the Record Bag would call me either "Zakary Thaks" or "Omar" (after Omar & the Howlers) because I'm from Corpus Christi.

San Francisco was a great town for collecting vinyl. I had a friend whose collection of George Jones albums outnumbered the records in my entire collection. On weekends we'd drive out to these thrift stores in Sonoma, Napa and Solano counties, digging up old Buck Owens albums. Back then, none of Buck's stuff was in print, so we could pick up a used Buck Owens album for 5 bucks in Calistoga and trade it for 20 bucks worth of vinyl in SF. Man, those were some good times.

btw, did you ever see any shows at the Anti Club on Melrose? My neighbor was in two bands (Joe Band and Piano Moscow) that played there frequently.

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 18 2008,22:38   

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btw, did you ever see any shows at the Anti Club on Melrose? My neighbor was in two bands (Joe Band and Piano Moscow) that played there frequently.


My LA time was so long ago I no longer remember the names of the clubs anymore. I remember the names of some of the bands, tho -- I saw the Three O'Clock, the Mentors, the Dickies, probably a few others. I didn't see anywhere near as many LA punk bands as my friends, tho, since I always thought most of the LA bands were kinda boring. Up in SF I used to go to the Warfield mainly, where I saw Devo in my junior year in high school, circa 1979. I may have seen them twice.  

Never made it to Bleeker Bob's -- I was carless at UCLA, so I hardly ever strayed from the West Side.

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 18 2008,23:09   

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btw, did you ever see any shows at the Anti Club on Melrose? My neighbor was in two bands (Joe Band and Piano Moscow) that played there frequently.


My LA time was so long ago I no longer remember the names of the clubs anymore. I remember the names of some of the bands, tho -- I saw the Three O'Clock, the Mentors, the Dickies, probably a few others. I didn't see anywhere near as many LA punk bands as my friends, tho, since I always thought most of the LA bands were kinda boring. Up in SF I used to go to the Warfield mainly, where I saw Devo in my junior year in high school, circa 1979. I may have seen them twice.  

Never made it to Bleeker Bob's -- I was carless at UCLA, so I hardly ever strayed from the West Side.

Pay no mind to Erasmus. He's just trying to go all Youth Pastor on us so he can start talking about Don Reno.

I would have loved to have seen the mid-80s lineup of the Mentors. My neighbor and I got turned on to them when we went into a record store in Hermosa Beach. The clerk put their live album on the turntable, and in a matter of seconds, everyone else in the store vanished. We left too, but not before we purchased the two Mentors albums they had in stock.

Other than seeing my neighbor's band, the only major show I saw in LA was Black Flag, Gone and Painted Willie at Safari Sam's. It was a pretty suckass Black Flag lineup - Greg Ginn's instrumental band, Gone, kicked ass, though.

I would have loved to have seen Devo in '79. Lucky dog.

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 19 2008,20:32   

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I would have loved to have seen Devo in '79. Lucky dog.

Interesting Devo connection:

My 17 y.o. daughter is in the Contemporary Youth Orchestra (she plays violin), an orchestra of high school students based in Cleveland dedicated to playing a relatively contemporary repertoire (20th century forward). It is an accomplished ensemble that, for example, last year presented a very convincing rendition of the Shostakovich 5th symphony (which I grew to love as they were rehearsing it).

Mark Mothersbaugh, co-founder of Devo, is now a film composer. A couple weeks ago the orchestra did a concert that revolved around movie scores. The concert included scores from Psycho, Spiderman, etc., but also featured Mothersbaugh and his arranger, who were present for performances of portions of his scores for The Life Aquatic and The Royal Tenenbaums - synchronized with video projections of the films. Mothersbaugh presented on his composition process.

He didn't look too happy when a Devo hat came out.

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He didn't look too happy when a Devo hat came out.

Too Effin bad then.  

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(Permalink) Posted: April 08 2008,01:18   

Les Nuits
Lemme know what you think.

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Any body here ever heard the Punch Brothers?

They do indescribably skillful, symphonic, contemporary (in a compositional sense), quite beautiful blue grass, of all things.

E.g. "The Blind Leaving the Blind" suite in four movements on the CD Punch.

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(Permalink) Posted: May 17 2008,22:36   

Quote (Reciprocating Bill @ May 17 2008,20:35)
Any body here ever heard the Punch Brothers?

They do indescribably skillful, symphonic, contemporary (in a compositional sense), quite beautiful blue grass, of all things.

E.g. "The Blind Leaving the Blind" suite in four movements on the CD Punch.

Sounds like Arden's bag..

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(Permalink) Posted: May 17 2008,23:03   

Quote (Reciprocating Bill @ May 17 2008,20:35)
Any body here ever heard the Punch Brothers?

They do indescribably skillful, symphonic, contemporary (in a compositional sense), quite beautiful blue grass, of all things.

E.g. "The Blind Leaving the Blind" suite in four movements on the CD Punch.

Thanks for the tip, Bill. Early Stravinsky meets Bill Monroe and goes for an all night pub crawl with Ramblin' era Ornette with Nick Drake on the radio. For some reason the Ramones were cued up after the Punch Brothers on the Napster playlist, and they fit . . . And I'm sober as a Bishop. Ok, a Mormon bishop.

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CNN is reporting the death of Bo Diddley.

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(CNN) -- Bo Diddley, the musical pioneer whose songs, such as "Who Do You Love?" and "Bo Diddley," melded rhythm and blues and rock 'n' roll through a distinctive thumping beat, has died. He was 79.

Diddley died Monday, surrounded by family and loved ones at his home in Archer, Florida, a family spokeswoman said.

The cause was heart failure, his family said.

The world-renowned guitarist's signature beat -- usually played on an equally distinctive rectangular-bodied guitar -- laid the foundation for rock 'n' roll, and became so identified with him that it became known as the "Bo Diddley" beat. It was unlike anything else heard in pop music.


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(Permalink) Posted: June 27 2008,12:52   

ATTENTION STEVESTORY:

I occasionally go to the websites of some of my favorite musicians to see if they are touring anywhere near here.  I usually strike out and today was no exception. However, I was  interested to see that Iris DeMent is playing at the Cat's Cradle in Carrboro tomorrow night (June 28).  If you don't have other plans, you should go see her.  As far as I am concerned, she is a unqiue voice in an increasingly homogenized music scene and is one of the best folk/country artists out there today.

For the rest of you, here is a video of her most popular song.

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(Permalink) Posted: June 27 2008,15:09   

I have listened religiously (see, not atheist on a daily basis) to Neurosis for the last couple of months.

Here's a live performance of Locust Star from Ozzfest (ha!) a few of years ago: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fmdmnnv2NkY

Unlike most "hard" acts, they have kept getting better as they age.

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(Permalink) Posted: June 29 2008,22:44   

just got out of Tom Waits show.  don't miss it.  wait too late they are sold out everywhere else.  haha.  was great.

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(Permalink) Posted: June 29 2008,22:52   

Quote (carlsonjok @ June 27 2008,13:52)
ATTENTION STEVESTORY:

I occasionally go to the websites of some of my favorite musicians to see if they are touring anywhere near here.  I usually strike out and today was no exception. However, I was  interested to see that Iris DeMent is playing at the Cat's Cradle in Carrboro tomorrow night (June 28).  If you don't have other plans, you should go see her.  As far as I am concerned, she is a unqiue voice in an increasingly homogenized music scene and is one of the best folk/country artists out there today.

For the rest of you, here is a video of her most popular song.

Shit. I don't usually check this thread. Totally missed the Iris DeMent thing. That sucks. I live less than a mile from the Cat's Cradle.

   
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(Permalink) Posted: June 30 2008,14:27   

Quote (stevestory @ June 29 2008,22:52)
Quote (carlsonjok @ June 27 2008,13:52)
ATTENTION STEVESTORY:

I occasionally go to the websites of some of my favorite musicians to see if they are touring anywhere near here.  I usually strike out and today was no exception. However, I was  interested to see that Iris DeMent is playing at the Cat's Cradle in Carrboro tomorrow night (June 28).  If you don't have other plans, you should go see her.  As far as I am concerned, she is a unqiue voice in an increasingly homogenized music scene and is one of the best folk/country artists out there today.

For the rest of you, here is a video of her most popular song.

Shit. I don't usually check this thread. Totally missed the Iris DeMent thing. That sucks. I live less than a mile from the Cat's Cradle.

Probably my fault. I thought about sending you a PM, but didn't.  

As it was, my wife dragged me to see Chuck Mangione  at Jazz in June on Saturday night.  It wasn't completely horrible, although I could have done without the localized little thunderstorm that popped up and soaked us but good.

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(Permalink) Posted: July 05 2008,20:30   

No one else will like this, but...

Disco goodness

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(Permalink) Posted: July 05 2008,20:46   

Quote (carlsonjok @ June 30 2008,15:27)
Quote (stevestory @ June 29 2008,22:52)
Quote (carlsonjok @ June 27 2008,13:52)
ATTENTION STEVESTORY:

I occasionally go to the websites of some of my favorite musicians to see if they are touring anywhere near here.  I usually strike out and today was no exception. However, I was  interested to see that Iris DeMent is playing at the Cat's Cradle in Carrboro tomorrow night (June 28).  If you don't have other plans, you should go see her.  As far as I am concerned, she is a unqiue voice in an increasingly homogenized music scene and is one of the best folk/country artists out there today.

For the rest of you, here is a video of her most popular song.

Shit. I don't usually check this thread. Totally missed the Iris DeMent thing. That sucks. I live less than a mile from the Cat's Cradle.

Probably my fault. I thought about sending you a PM, but didn't.  

As it was, my wife dragged me to see Chuck Mangione  at Jazz in June on Saturday night.  It wasn't completely horrible, although I could have done without the localized little thunderstorm that popped up and soaked us but good.

No, no, PMs are great. Lots of times I don't check on a thread--Lou FCD is moderator here now--and so PMs get to me quicker than other things. But Cat's Cradle often escapes my attention. Please send future announcements like that. BTW, I only know Chuck Mangione from King of the Hill episodes.

   
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(Permalink) Posted: July 19 2008,15:27   

Just got pointed to this.

It moves me.

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(Permalink) Posted: July 19 2008,17:34   

Quote (Lou FCD @ July 19 2008,15:27)
Just got pointed to this.

It moves me.

My gód that's depressing, the sad Youtube comments say the same. But ofcourse I'm not easely moved, but that's just because I'm a bitter person ;)

Anyway, a classmate (well, ex-classmate now, bye bye Bio-informatics :() of mine showed me this. Awesome stuff really, makes me a

Happy pandaaa!!!

  
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(Permalink) Posted: July 19 2008,20:22   

Quote (Assassinator @ July 19 2008,18:34)
Quote (Lou FCD @ July 19 2008,15:27)
Just got pointed to this.

It moves me.

My gód that's depressing, the sad Youtube comments say the same. But ofcourse I'm not easely moved, but that's just because I'm a bitter person ;)

Anyway, a classmate (well, ex-classmate now, bye bye Bio-informatics :() of mine showed me this. Awesome stuff really, makes me a
(snip image)
Happy pandaaa!!!

Depressing?  I found it mellow and romantic.  In fact, you've been looking kind of cute lately...

:)

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(Permalink) Posted: July 19 2008,23:05   

Quote (Lou FCD @ July 19 2008,20:22)
 
Quote (Assassinator @ July 19 2008,18:34)
 
Quote (Lou FCD @ July 19 2008,15:27)
Just got pointed to this.

It moves me.

My gód that's depressing, the sad Youtube comments say the same. But ofcourse I'm not easely moved, but that's just because I'm a bitter person ;)

Anyway, a classmate (well, ex-classmate now, bye bye Bio-informatics :() of mine showed me this. Awesome stuff really, makes me a
(snip image)
Happy pandaaa!!!

Depressing?  I found it mellow and romantic.  In fact, you've been looking kind of cute lately...

:)

Lou! For the Assassinator's sake, I hope you meant the Panda. The girls are having a bad spanky influence on you. Not that a bad spanky influnece is a bad thing. I'll go back to listening to the Puppini Sisters do 'Walk Like an Egyptian'.

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(Permalink) Posted: July 21 2008,17:20   

Quote (Lou FCD @ July 19 2008,20:22)
Quote (Assassinator @ July 19 2008,18:34)
 
Quote (Lou FCD @ July 19 2008,15:27)
Just got pointed to this.

It moves me.

My gód that's depressing, the sad Youtube comments say the same. But ofcourse I'm not easely moved, but that's just because I'm a bitter person ;)

Anyway, a classmate (well, ex-classmate now, bye bye Bio-informatics :() of mine showed me this. Awesome stuff really, makes me a
(snip image)
Happy pandaaa!!!

Depressing?  I found it mellow and romantic.  In fact, you've been looking kind of cute lately...

:)

Judging from the Youtube comments, it mostly reminds people of dead loved one's. But maybe you're hearing something they aren't hearing.
But if you don't mind, I'll walk step back slooowly now, I'm a bit...scared. A bit of this medicine should emmm, fix that. To bad it's not the full version of the song, wich I really like better.
PS: Especially the solo from 3:22 is pure awesomeness.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: July 21 2008,18:51   

My youngest daughter goes to Warren Wilson College, near Asheville NC. I drove her back to NC after Christmas break, just in time for us to catch Richard Thompson and his 1000 Years of Popular Music show at the Orange Peel (great venue).  

The show is a treat. In fact, any Richard Thompson show (acoustic solo or with his electric band) is worth seeing.

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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 10 2008,15:48   

Soul legend Isaac Hayes dies

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(CNN) -- Soul singer and arranger Isaac Hayes, who won Grammy awards and an Oscar for the theme from the 1971 action film "Shaft," has died, sheriff's officials in Memphis, Tennessee, reported Sunday.

Relatives found Hayes, 65, unconscious in his home next to a still-running treadmill, said Steve Shular, a spokesman for the Shelby County Sheriff's Department.

Paramedics attempted to revive him and took him to a hospital, where he was pronounced dead shortly after 2 p.m., the sheriff's department said.


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My youngest daughter goes to Warren Wilson College, near Asheville NC. I drove her back to NC after Christmas break, just in time for us to catch Richard Thompson and his 1000 Years of Popular Music show at the Orange Peel (great venue).  

The show is a treat. In fact, any Richard Thompson show (acoustic solo or with his electric band) is worth seeing.

Hi KC

What do you think about WWC?  Does she enjoy it?

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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 12 2008,09:27   

Happy Birthday Mark Knopfler!

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/8/12/9475/83117/862/566642

Pictures and vid at the link.

I'll go make a Vegamite sandwich mate...

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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 15 2008,15:08   

Probably the best verision of "Ken Lee"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_RgL2MKfWTo

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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 15 2008,15:11   

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Happy Birthday Mark Knopfler!

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/8/12/9475/83117/862/566642

Pictures and vid at the link.

I'll go make a Vegamite sandwich mate...

Massively underrated guitarist. Choice licks, despite the cuntry influences.

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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 15 2008,15:23   

Quote (Richardthughes @ Aug. 15 2008,15:11)
Quote (J-Dog @ Aug. 12 2008,09:27)
Happy Birthday Mark Knopfler!

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/8/12/9475/83117/862/566642

Pictures and vid at the link.

I'll go make a Vegamite sandwich mate...

Massively underrated guitarist. Choice licks, despite the cuntry influences.

For everyone, except Richard, I recommend the album "All the Roadrunning" that Knopfler cut with Emmylou Harris.  It's genesis was a Hank Williams tribute album called "Timeless"* where Knopfler and Harris collaborated on two songs.

*It also includes Williams covers by Bob Dylan, Sheryl Crow, Tom Petty, Beck, and Keb' Mo'.

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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 15 2008,16:35   

I do a decent version of this one:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XnINgOhOPzE&feature=related

My 'Sultans' is okay except for the chicken picken at the end.

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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 15 2008,21:38   

speakin of chicken pickin rich you ever listen to toy caldwell.

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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 21 2008,22:29   

Quote (Erasmus, FCD @ Aug. 15 2008,21:38)
speakin of chicken pickin rich you ever listen to toy caldwell.

I haven't - Isn't chicken pickin a bit country?

Here's Tarden, Carlson, Rasser, J-Dog and myself getting our groove on:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJzEH2Kjsis

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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 24 2008,18:21   

Anyone else remember how good Soul Train was?

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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 25 2008,13:05   

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What do you think about WWC?  Does she enjoy it?


Warren Wilson is an excellent fit for her. Unlike her older sister, who is intense and driven (and found Bennington College a wonderful fit for her personality), Claire is laid back but accomplished. The school emphasizes academics, work (every student must have an on-campus job--that keeps the tuition 'reasonable'), and service (every student must complete a community service requirement before graduating). It tends to attract very liberal students interested in things like conservation, self-sufficiency (the school maintains a farm and raises much of its own meat and vegetables, and many students work it), international aid and activism of various kinds. So it isn't for everybody. The Sierra Club rated it number 3 in their list of "10 Coolest Colleges", but WWC also ranked number 2 in 'Reefer Madness" in the Princeton Review, LOL.

The campus is nestled in the foothills of the Blue Ridge Mountains, and is just beautiful. Claire's starting her second year there, and loves it.

KC

Edited by KCdgw on Aug. 25 2008,16:45

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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 25 2008,23:29   

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just got out of Tom Waits show.  don't miss it.  wait too late they are sold out everywhere else.  haha.  was great.

Oh, yeah, now you tell us, now that I paid the power bill by candlelight, yeah, now I should have plenty of money left over to pay for a scalped ticket . . . never have gotten to see him. Damn these hellacious desert summers! Damn the gas prices! Geez, I may not have been to a concert since Warren Zevon's last tour. Yep. No since then. I have no life.

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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 07 2008,09:58   

In a couple of hours: At the gates on their final tour!

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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 07 2008,10:05   

if it hadn't been for George W Bush handing me back some cash I wouldn't have been able to go.  bless him may he live forever*



*in prison preferably.

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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 07 2008,16:32   

Quote (Erasmus @ FCD,Sep. 07 2008,16:05)
if it hadn't been for George W Bush handing me back some cash I wouldn't have been able to go.

It was great! I've never seen a death metal band in such a jolly mood before.

Edit: They opened with slaughter of the soul(!)

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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 11 2008,19:49   

Since DVD's spin, this post is technically on-topic  :p

Watched the first 80% of Vertigo today. Was pretty busy and have guests coming up from south Florida including the missus so lots of things were happening. Anyway, saw about the first hour and 45 mins, but won't get to see the rest for a few weeks. Thoughts so far:

1 that brightly-lit san fran apt was gorgeous.
2 everybody drinks and smokes all the time Woohoo! NOM NOM NOM
3 i heard the cool vertiginous shot was a zoom plus a backward motion of the camera, but based on what I know of optics, it looks like a zoom out with a forward motion. I could just be getting the foreground and background confused, I'll have to see it several more times.

(to be clear, what I mean is, as the shot progressed, more background stuff seemed to fit between two foreground bits, while the foreground bits stayed the same apparent size. The first part seems to result from a forward camera motion--hold your hands out a foot from your eyes, then bring them closer--more background stuff fits between them--while the last part is accomplished by zooming out. Of course, I could be looking at the wrong shot. Some variant of that technique is used in 3 different places in the movie. There's the rooftop in the beginning, and then the stairs in the spanish mission much later.)
4 Jimmy Stewart's eyebrows looked like Michael Keaton's.
5 the monochromatic swirls in the opening credits had to remind one of Venture Bros.
6 Great brown suit on Stewart.

   
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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 11 2008,19:58   

Now spinning (the REAL spinning you can see):

Resphighi, The Pines of Rome, performed by the Cleveland Orchestra conducted by Lorin Maazel, LP recorded in May 1976.

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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 11 2008,20:54   

7. Hitchcock's obvious infatuation with Kim Novak. Look at the way he lights her, steve; he was hopelessly head-over-heels in lust love. C'mon, it jumps right off the film.

Back on topic: meant to toss an HT to RBill a month or two back for reminding me about Laurie Anderson's Mr. Heartbreak. I dug the CD out and spooled it up a few days later -- still highly listenable. For some reason that put me in a techno mood and that led to Come With Us by the Chemical Brothers, cranked up "one louder". And then the missus came downstairs and said turn it down, and down it went.

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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 11 2008,21:04   

Quote (dogdidit @ Sep. 11 2008,21:54)
7. Hitchcock's obvious infatuation with Kim Novak. Look at the way he lights her, steve; he was hopelessly head-over-heels in lust love. C'mon, it jumps right off the film.

Back on topic: meant to toss an HT to RBill a month or two back for reminding me about Laurie Anderson's Mr. Heartbreak. I dug the CD out and spooled it up a few days later -- still highly listenable. For some reason that put me in a techno mood and that led to Come With Us by the Chemical Brothers, cranked up "one louder". And then the missus came downstairs and said turn it down, and down it went.

I saw/heard her perform the set that became the Mr. Heartbreak album live, with the band that is featured on the album, complete with William S. Burroughs (although I doubt Peter Gabriel was there) and all the images and multimedia. Big grin ear to ear the entire performance. And that was the first time I had heard her.

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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 11 2008,21:09   

Quote (dogdidit @ Sep. 11 2008,20:54)
For some reason that put me in a techno mood and that led to Come With Us by the Chemical Brothers, cranked up "one louder". And then the missus came downstairs and said turn it down, and down it went.

HA HA THIS IS YOU (AND THE MISSUS)



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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 12 2008,06:38   


TURN THAT CRAP DOWN!!!!!

Or at least put on Enya...

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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 12 2008,10:04   



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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 12 2008,10:08   

FWIW, the new Metallica album, Death Magnetic, was released today.  What I have listened to so far is a definite throw back to their early (pre-Black Album) work.

EDIT: HA HA THIS IS ME

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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 12 2008,14:39   

Quote (Arden Chatfield @ Sep. 12 2008,11:04)

What did we ever do before LOLcats?

   
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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 12 2008,14:48   

Quote (stevestory @ Sep. 12 2008,14:39)
What did we ever do before LOLcats?

Sat around waiting to be created.



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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 20 2008,20:31   

For some reason I'm really craving the Salsa beat in the Kylie Minogue version of "Santa Baby."