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JonF



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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 04 2012,07:43   

Now it's "Error establishing a database connection". I tell you, the whole place is going to wrack and ruin without Lizzie.

  
midwifetoad



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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 04 2012,07:58   

Quote (JonF @ Nov. 04 2012,07:43)
Now it's "Error establishing a database connection". I tell you, the whole place is going to wrack and ruin without Lizzie.

Wack-A-Mole.

Or is it mol?

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fnxtr



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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 04 2012,12:04   

Quote (midwifetoad @ Nov. 04 2012,05:58)
Quote (JonF @ Nov. 04 2012,07:43)
Now it's "Error establishing a database connection". I tell you, the whole place is going to wrack and ruin without Lizzie.

Wack-A-Mole.

Or is it mol?

Wack-a-moi?

There's a Latin word for that.

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Seversky



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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 04 2012,15:41   

It's no good.  I tried whacking the monitor (in both Latin and English) but it's still "Error establishing a database connection".

  
midwifetoad



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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 04 2012,19:18   

!!!!111!!!!!11111111!!!
She's checked in.

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olegt



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 06 2013,11:46   

Granville Sewell has to resort to his imagination to find people who like his video:
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For me, the real argument for intelligent design has always been extremely simple, and doesn’t require any advanced mathematics or microbiology to grasp. The video below makes this argument in the simplest, clearest way I can make it. My uncle Harry and aunt Martha like the video, and can’t understand why so many intelligent scientists aren’t impressed by this very simple argument.

[snip]

If I could figure out a way to use some more advanced mathematics in my arguments, if I could figure out a way to restate the basic point in such a way that uncle Harry and aunt Martha couldn’t understand it, I might make some progress (I don’t really have an uncle Harry or an aunt Martha, by the way, but many people do). Perhaps it would help if I linked to my resume, or to my finite element program, to show that I am capable of doing more advanced mathematics, even if I haven’t used any of it in this video.


Granville,

You are barking up the wrong tree. The lack of more advanced mathematics in your argument is not the root of your problem. Good physics does not (necessarily) require sophisticated math. Einstein's special relativity uses 7th-grade algebra, yet it s quite profound as a physical theory.

Your problem is that you are not a good physicist. You do not understand statistical physics. Here are just a couple of points.  

* There are simple examples of entropy compensation that you seem to be unaware of.
* Your "X-entropy" is not a new concept. It is a bastardized version of the familiar, run-of-the-mill entropy associated with the number of configurations of atoms in real space.

There are a few threads at the Skeptical Zone, where well-qualified physicists and chemists dissected your technical arguments in great detail. You were invited to participate but you did not have the courage to show up.

A Second Look at the Second Law...
Granville Sewell vs. Bob Lloyd.

What a clown.

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Soapy Sam



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 07 2013,03:03   

TSZ has been hacked. I shall take a baseball bat to a few mailboxes forthwith, 'cos that's big and clever too.

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midwifetoad



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 07 2013,09:27   

Wordpress need to fix this.

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Alan Fox



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 07 2013,12:25   

Quote (midwifetoad @ Mar. 07 2013,04:27)
Wordpress need to fix this.

I fear not. The site is on an independent server and unless Lizzie has delegated someone the FTP access, she will need to ask her web service provider to help or wipe the infected files and reinstall a clean copy of wordpress.

ETA

Sorted.

  
Robin



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 08 2013,09:30   

Seems as though things are back up and running.

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midwifetoad



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 08 2013,09:44   

I was able to request a password update using my email address and enter a new password. I now seem to be back.

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Robin



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 22 2013,08:39   

Is Lizzie's site down again? Can't seem to connect this morning.

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we IDists rule in design for the flagellum and cilium largely because they do look designed.  Bilbo

The only reason you reject Thor is because, like a cushion, you bear the imprint of the biggest arse that sat on you. Louis

  
Kattarina98



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 22 2013,09:02   

Same here - and two hours ago it worked just fine.
Maybe Lizzie is doing the spring cleaning.


Edited for proper grammar.

Edited by Kattarina98 on Mar. 22 2013,09:03

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midwifetoad



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 22 2013,11:38   

It hiccups. Always has.

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Arctodus23



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 23 2013,11:52   

Quote (midwifetoad @ Nov. 04 2012,07:58)
Quote (JonF @ Nov. 04 2012,07:43)
Now it's "Error establishing a database connection". I tell you, the whole place is going to wrack and ruin without Lizzie.

Wack-A-Mole.

Or is it mol?

Or is it Wack-A-Troll.

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Febble



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 23 2013,12:42   

Sorry, yes it's a very cheap hosting service.

  
Arctodus23



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 23 2013,20:35   

It's on.

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"So the center of the earth being hotter than the surface is a "gross
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clamboy



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(Permalink) Posted: April 08 2013,13:18   

I am enjoying the uptick in TSZ's postings and conversations, mostly for the education, but certainly not least for the return of...

(heralds sound)

His Most Royal Tardiness, William J Murray.

I mean, No Neck Joe and GG Aulin get the job done, but when William J Murray posts, I feel like Screwtape taking in the luscious air of a Torquemada. His arrogance, His dismissiveness, His air of lese majeste when addressing Lizzie's posts about Dembski (or replies to His Own comments), His refusal to answer or even acknowledge questions or define His terms, His condescension and derision and insults...ah, I think I could never surfeit on the black bile that is the soul of William J Murray!

  
Soapy Sam



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(Permalink) Posted: April 08 2013,13:48   

Quote (clamboy @ April 08 2013,19:18)
I am enjoying the uptick in TSZ's postings and conversations, mostly for the education, but certainly not least for the return of...

(heralds sound)

His Most Royal Tardiness, William J Murray.

I mean, No Neck Joe and GG Aulin get the job done, but when William J Murray posts, I feel like Screwtape taking in the luscious air of a Torquemada. His arrogance, His dismissiveness, His air of lese majeste when addressing Lizzie's posts about Dembski (or replies to His Own comments), His refusal to answer or even acknowledge questions or define His terms, His condescension and derision and insults...ah, I think I could never surfeit on the black bile that is the soul of William J Murray!

For those disinclined to seek out the pearls cast at the swine, this is a GEM:

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BTW, the reason I don’t post here much is because I have a limited capacity to endure your ilk – this very kind of endless rabbit-holing and obfuscation of terms.But, out of a sense of fair play, I’ll spend some time here.

   For as long as I can stomach it.


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Glen Davidson



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(Permalink) Posted: April 08 2013,14:32   

Quote (Soapy Sam @ April 08 2013,13:48)
 
Quote (clamboy @ April 08 2013,19:18)
I am enjoying the uptick in TSZ's postings and conversations, mostly for the education, but certainly not least for the return of...

(heralds sound)

His Most Royal Tardiness, William J Murray.

I mean, No Neck Joe and GG Aulin get the job done, but when William J Murray posts, I feel like Screwtape taking in the luscious air of a Torquemada. His arrogance, His dismissiveness, His air of lese majeste when addressing Lizzie's posts about Dembski (or replies to His Own comments), His refusal to answer or even acknowledge questions or define His terms, His condescension and derision and insults...ah, I think I could never surfeit on the black bile that is the soul of William J Murray!

For those disinclined to seek out the pearls cast at the swine, this is a GEM:

   
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BTW, the reason I don’t post here much is because I have a limited capacity to endure your ilk – this very kind of endless rabbit-holing and obfuscation of terms.But, out of a sense of fair play, I’ll spend some time here.

   For as long as I can stomach it.

Just so long as he can put up with some pro-science comments for a short time, his intellectual honesty is hardly in question.

Among the IDiots, that is.

Glen Davidson

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midwifetoad



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(Permalink) Posted: April 08 2013,14:46   

Design detection filter says probability of flounce is one hundred percent. Expulsion: zero percent.

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Kattarina98



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(Permalink) Posted: April 08 2013,15:01   

"Obfuscation of terms"? The nerve - One thing I admire about Lizzie is that she always makes sure that everyone agrees on definitions.

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clamboy



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(Permalink) Posted: April 08 2013,15:04   

Quote (midwifetoad @ April 08 2013,14:46)
Design detection filter says probability of flounce is one hundred percent. Expulsion: zero percent.

All that He does is a flounce. Each snide remark, each disdainful word dripping with snobbery, reads as a flounce.

  
midwifetoad



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(Permalink) Posted: April 08 2013,15:13   

Quote (Kattarina98 @ April 08 2013,15:01)
"Obfuscation of terms"? The nerve - One thing I admire about Lizzie is that she always makes sure that everyone agrees on definitions.

Obfuscation = You don't accept my equivocation.

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Kattarina98



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(Permalink) Posted: April 08 2013,17:57   

Hey, annoying other participants in a debate is easy: Just insist they prove a negative: "Show me without the shadow of a doubt there is no intelligence involved. You can't? I win!" That's what Murray it doing in "A Search for a Search" at the moment.

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Cubist



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(Permalink) Posted: April 08 2013,18:56   

Quote (Kattarina98 @ April 08 2013,15:01)
"Obfuscation of terms"? The nerve - One thing I admire about Lizzie is that she always makes sure that everyone agrees on definitions.

"always makes sure"? Well… except for the times when she's trying to reach agreement with a person who flatly will not agree no matter what

  
midwifetoad



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(Permalink) Posted: April 13 2013,20:59   

All WordPress sites seem to be under a coodinated attack, so TSZ is flaky at the moment. WordPress serms to have locked admin logins until they figure out what to do.

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The whole truth



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(Permalink) Posted: April 19 2013,09:23   








http://theskepticalzone.com/wp....o....omments

ETA: For some reason the link doesn't work for me. murray's comment is in the Searching for a search thread at TSZ.

Edited by The whole truth on April 19 2013,07:28

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Robin



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(Permalink) Posted: April 19 2013,13:47   

Quote (The whole truth @ April 19 2013,09:23)

Ahh man...completely missed the fact that he responded. I was wondering if he'd answer in the affirmative. Given the "yes", my followup question was going to be how reliable he thought this ID detection could be. I mean, what with demons being the "intelligence", you'd think they might be doing one or two things to trick folks.

Maybe the Intelligent Designer is Morton's Demon.
:D

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The whole truth



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(Permalink) Posted: April 19 2013,15:20   

Quote (Robin @ April 19 2013,11:47)
Quote (The whole truth @ April 19 2013,09:23)

Ahh man...completely missed the fact that he responded. I was wondering if he'd answer in the affirmative. Given the "yes", my followup question was going to be how reliable he thought this ID detection could be. I mean, what with demons being the "intelligence", you'd think they might be doing one or two things to trick folks.

Maybe the Intelligent Designer is Morton's Demon.
:D

Yeah  :)

Or....





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