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guthrie



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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 20 2006,10:58   

Their not even original jokes.  Go on, come up with something new and exciting, after all you are here to entertain us.

  
Arden Chatfield



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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 20 2006,10:58   

"A man goes to a psychiatrist. The doctor says, "You're crazy!" The man says, "I want a second opinion!" "Okay, you're ugly too!""



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"Rich is just mad because he thought all titties had fur on them until last week when a shorn transvestite ruined his childhood dreams by jumping out of a spider man cake and man boobing him in the face lips." - Erasmus

  
hereoisreal



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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 20 2006,11:23   

said to my housekeeper one day, " Heaven is hexx without law and order.

When he## meets the law, the shxt will hit the fan."

The next morning I opened my newspaper to the front page. The top headline read, "Helmet Law Inforcement Begins".

I saved the paper.

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360  miracles and more at:
http://www.hereoisreal.com/....eal.com

Great news. God’s wife is pregnant! (Rev. 12:5)

It's not over till the fat lady sings! (Isa. 54:1 & Zec 9:9)

   
Lou FCD



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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 20 2006,11:42   

Quote (Altabin @ Oct. 20 2006,15:18)
 
Quote (improvius @ Oct. 20 2006,22:15)
 
Quote (Altabin @ Oct. 20 2006,16:10)
Oh, come on, hereoisreal is just one of you guys f#cking with us.  Really.  I'm onto my third glass of rare Sicilian blueberry amaro and this still doesn't make any f#cking sense.

No.  He's been doing this bit for at least over a year.  Maybe this is the first he's been on AtBC, but he's been around for a while.  If it's a spoof, it's an extremely long-running one.

Has Lou FCD ever been seen in the same room as him?

Um... I might resent that.

I at least had style!

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Lou FCD



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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 20 2006,11:45   

Not to mention I Janie can spell, and I she makes sense...

I hope.

:D

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Lou FCD is still in school, so we should only count him as a baby biologist. -carlsonjok -deprecated
I think I might love you. Don't tell Deadman -Wolfhound

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hereoisreal



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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 20 2006,11:59   

A story not yet posted on my web site:
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Psa 110:1 [[A Psalm of David.]] The LORD said unto my Lord,
Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool.


Last week I posted the above on some discussion boards during the day. That night my wife and I went to see the play, Gypsy. During the middle, a landlord, Mr. Goldstone, was being patronized. One of the actors got down on his all-fours and Rose placed Mr. Goldstone's feet on the actor's back. (A gold stone is what the lid to the Ark is made from...one hunk of gold)

Zero

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360  miracles and more at:
http://www.hereoisreal.com/....eal.com

Great news. God’s wife is pregnant! (Rev. 12:5)

It's not over till the fat lady sings! (Isa. 54:1 & Zec 9:9)

   
hereoisreal



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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 20 2006,19:14   

Pardon my bumping this thread but here is what
I picked up off of the floor:

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.[off topic experiment] cutting room floor (version 1)
by scordova on August 18th, 2006 ·&#63568; 19 Comments

(Consider this thread an experiment, and not the final word. If it doesn’’t work, I’’ll go back to business as usual.)
The cutting room floor refers to the floor of the editing room used in movie making. When film editors edited a film in the early days of movie making, they would cut parts of the film out, leaving the unwanted scenes on the cutting room floor.
Some of UD’’s authors may find certain comments distracting or unhelpful to the discussion. Previously, I deleted such comments from threads I started. On the other hand, if a comment is deleted, suspicions arise whether that comment had something deeply incriminating and therefore was suppressed.
In an effort then, to let the readers know that I or other authors had nothing to hide, but simply exercised editorial judgement as to what would or would not be the most informative and useful to the readers, I’’m starting this thread as an EXPERIMENTAL repository for such comments.
That is not to say there aren’’t comments deserving outright deletion such as those containing vulgarity, or extreme insults to other participants, some violation of privacy, or extremly bone-headed remarks, etc. But some comments which don’’t violate those standards still may not quite fit with the kind of discussion the author had in mind, yet in some respects, given the time invested by the participants in composing their comments it would seem almost discourteous to dump such comments in the same category as those being outrightly deleted, especially if a lot of effort went in to the composition of the comment.
I’’m trying to get better at treating the participants here more respectfully. I don’’t want commentors to feel if they get a ““letter of rejection”” (so to speak) from me that I do not welcome their future participation. I hope participants who have their comments moved here simply consider it an editorial decision, and an indication that I still welcome their participation. In contrast, outright deletion of a comment, may indicate I thought the comment was so bad, it wasn’’t even worth moving here.
Many from the other side of the issue raise questions which those on the sideline want answered. Furthermore, controversy attracts readers to this weblog. Consensus can be rather boring, but controversy exciting. And exciting translates into more readership! Thus I want to encourage participation by first rate critical discussion here at UD (versus the brainless banter I see at rival weblogs like Pandas Thumb and PZ Pharyngula).
I invite any of my fellow authors at UD to deposit any of the scenes which they think shouldn’’t make the final cut but on the other hand should not be totally erased. Of course, if someone gets too annoying (like the kind of creatures that inhabit the comment section of Pandas Thumb and PZ Myers weblog) they can expect to be permanently shown the door……
Every musician has hit wrong notes in the course of his life. Consider this place a place where even the best participants can have their wrong notes deposited so that the best music is presented where it has the largest audience. Also, this place can be a place where people discuss whatever they want within reason.
I would hope UD will be a place the best and most well-known anti-IDers would occasionally feel comfortable making an appearance here. I certainly enjoy sparring with the best the other side has to offer. It makes for a great show.
Salvador
Filed Under: Off Topic
19 responses so far  ?

1. tinabrewer // Aug 18th 2006 at 2:25 pm
salvador: it has been my distinct impression that you consistently go out of your way in terms of courtesy toward participants, so if I were you, I would relax about ““getting better”” at this! Cool idea about the cutting room floor, though.
Comment by tinabrewer —— August 18, 2006 @ 2:25 pm

2. Carlos // Aug 18th 2006 at 3:07 pm
Does the software on this site have the capacity to ““hide”” posts? Motet, which I use for www.newcafe.org, has this ability —— also, HTML code can be put in the post which links back to previous posts. Makes it easier to manage a discussion and figure out who is talking to whom.
Still, I like the cutting room floor idea —— especially since I suspect that a lot of my own contributions are tangents!
Comment by Carlos —— August 18, 2006 @ 3:07 pm

3. scordova // Aug 18th 2006 at 3:07 pm
Thank you for the kind words, tina.
The critics have been able to give valuable editorial criticisms. I find that about 15% of what they write has been highly useful helping me refine and clarify my ideas.
By the way, I don’’t think I have ever formally extended my greetings to you after all these months. So, greetings!
I have enjoyed your posts at UD, I’’m sorry its taken so long for me to actually say hi.
regards,
Salvador
Comment by scordova —— August 18, 2006 @ 3:07 pm

4. Zero // Aug 18th 2006 at 4:12 pm
Salvador, IMO, symmetry is the best ““proof”” of a designer.
Below is part of a conversation I’’m having at ““Good Math
Bad Math””
Also check out http://www.theologyweb.com/campus/showthread.php?p=1610994#post1610994
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It was nice talking to you, Zero. I hope you draw something from this discussion. If you can find messages in the bible while being consistent in your methods, I will listen. Until then, I bid you good luck, and safe journeys.
Posted by: Xanthir | August 16, 2006 05:32 PM
““If you can find messages in the bible while being consistent in your methods, I will listen. Until then, I bid you good luck, and safe journeys.””
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Xanthir, there is a pattern in life. All living
things, and fossels too, are symmetrical by chance, just like the center of heaven. Also like the name of the mother of all living, ““EVE””. Also like the creator’’s
name, ”” I Am that I Am ””
.Exd 25:20 And the cherubims shall stretch forth [their] wings on high, covering the mercy seat with their wings, and their faces [shall look] one to another; toward the mercy seat shall the faces of the cherubims be.
Exd 25:22 And there I will meet with thee, and I will commune with thee from above the mercy seat, from between the two cherubims which [are] upon the ark of the testimony, of all [things] which I will give thee in commandment unto the children of Israel.
Jos 8:33 And all Israel, and their elders, and officers, and their judges, stood on this side the ark and on that side before the priests the Levites, which bare the ark of the covenant of the LORD, as well the stranger, as he that was born among them; half of them over against mount Gerizim, and half of them over against mount Ebal; as Moses the servant of the LORD had commanded before, that they should bless the people of Israel.
Blessings
Zero
Posted by: Zero | August 18, 2006 01:52 AM
Comment by Zero —— August 18, 2006 @ 4:12 pm

5. DaveScot // Aug 18th 2006 at 5:54 pm
I wasn’’t aware there was anything in Wordpress that allowed you to relocate a comment from one thread to another.
Comment by DaveScot —— August 18, 2006 @ 5:54 pm

6. scordova // Aug 18th 2006 at 5:59 pm
DaveScot!
Nice to see you! Well, we have the rather inelegant cut and paste method. That’’s what I intend to use.
Sal
Comment by scordova —— August 18, 2006 @ 5:59 pm

7. William Dembski // Aug 18th 2006 at 8:41 pm
DaveScot: Glad to see you again. You’’ve done inestimable service for this blog, and your insights have been missed. I’’ve upgraded the account under which you posted this comment to ““Author”” —— same as Sal. I want to see you posting here again.
The functionality of this blog is going to be upgraded in coming weeks, including a bulletin board (this should enable Sal to do efficiently what he’’s trying to do here with, as he put it, ““inelegant cut and paste””).
Comment by William Dembski —— August 18, 2006 @ 8:41 pm

8. russ // Aug 19th 2006 at 12:37 am
““DaveScot: Glad to see you again. You’’ve done inestimable service for this blog, and your insights have been missed.””
Ditto.
Comment by russ —— August 19, 2006 @ 12:37 am

9. DaveScot // Aug 19th 2006 at 1:41 am
Thanks everyone.
Sal, cut & paste ain’’t the half of it. Someone posted some comments on the wrong thread here and asked me to move them. Not only do you have to cut & paste the text of the message but also all the author information and even the timestamp. You first have to create the comment under your own name using the original text. Then, if you have editor permissions, you can change the name & timestamp to that of the original comment. And if that commenter had a URL associated with his name there’’s another cut & paste. So it’’s like three or four cut & pastes plus a bunch of other clicks. It should be possible to add a function that moves a comment from one thread to another if you do a little PHP programming. There might even be a WordPress add-on that’’ll do what you want. If I were still a working programmer I’’d be motivated to upgrade my skill set to include PHP but I’’m not so all I’’ve done is some less ambitious hacking of a few lines here & there for simpler things.
Comment by DaveScot —— August 19, 2006 @ 1:41 am

10. Zero // Aug 19th 2006 at 7:36 am
Sal, I have a rock I have named ”” Rock of Ages ””
because it has adults, babies, and all ages between.
They are all symmetrical, skin toned and held together by each other. (family) There is nothing else there.
Life is not about ID or evolution. It is about
family and home.
I would like to send you a picture to post.
If you have my E, drop a line and I’’ll send it.
Zero
Comment by Zero —— August 19, 2006 @ 7:36 am

11. bFast // Aug 19th 2006 at 9:05 am
Hi Sal,
Let’’s see if this thread is actually being read.
One of my pet pieves about this site is that there is no obvious way to submit new threads. I respect the general idea of restricting the site to a few ““authors””, and I don’’t want to start new threads often, but there are those times. If you had a thread similar to this where us commoners could submit a new thread suggestion, that would be great.
Anyway, I was purusing the news, and came accross this website:
http://www.ctv.ca/servlet....SciTech
Finding comments like this
That one gene didn’’t exist until 300 million years ago and is present only in mammals and birds, not fish or animals without backbones.
But then it didn’’t change much at all. There are only two differences in that one gene between a chimp and a chicken, Haussler said.
But there are 18 differences in that one gene between human and chimp and they all seemed to occur in the development of man, he said.
Andrew Clark, a Cornell University professor molecular biology who was not part of Haussler’’s team, said that if true, the change in genes would be fastest and most dramatic in humans and would be ““terrifically exciting.””
However, the gene changed so fast that Clark said that he has a hard time believing it unless something unusual happened in a mutation. It’’s not part of normal evolution, he said.
I think the above is perfectly self-explanitory.
Comment by bFast —— August 19, 2006 @ 9:05 am

12. scordova // Aug 19th 2006 at 9:20 am
[
moved from Dave Thomas says, ““Cordova’’s algorithm is remarkable
commentor : trll
Reason: the comment asked several questions that were already answered. I pointed out many times the software engineer or end user may not know the answer in advance of a programs run, but he may know of successful strategy to solve the problem. I deliberately chose a strategy that I could independently qualify through 5 separate means lest I write a program that had an error in it.
]
Where did I ever claim there wasn’’t smoke and mirrors involved in the gimmickery here? Fer cryin’’ out loud, my post was talking about mathematical theatrics, and I presented that program as an example of gimmickery! I even alerted the reader with these words before presenting my program, ““The following [are] computational theatrics””.
I’’ve always been reluctant to accuse people of ““lying.”” But Dave Thomas’’s point was that genetic algorithms work even for problems in which the programmer does not know the answer, but can identify a fitness function, based on the laws of nature in the real world, that a biological solution must satisfy. You respond with an example of a program in which (a) the programmer does know the answer and uses this knowledge, but attempts to hide this fact, and (b) does not actually use a genetic algorithm. So what was the point of your obfuscatory ““mathematical theatrics””? Are you accusing Dave Thomas of being deceptive by hiding a solution that he knows somewhere in his code, or of not using a genetic algorithm? Do you genuinely not recognize the difference between a solution that requires that the final answer be known and one that only requires identification of a constraint that the answer must satisfy? Or are you just trying to confuse the issue because you are not confident of your ability to rebut the actual points raised by Thomas’’s simulation?
Comment by scordova —— August 19, 2006 @ 9:20 am

13. steveh // Aug 19th 2006 at 3:13 pm
[removed from Dave Thomas says, ““Cordova’’s algorithm is remarkable
Commenter: steveh
Reason: Because it wasn’’t productive to the discussion and is replete with misrepresenations.
SH ”” Dave Thomas showed exactly how your program was a disguised version of the Gauss formula.””
:-) Just for the record: Sal didn’’t move this here, I’’ve reconstructed it as best I could
from memory. I have made one major addition (the network in which all points are connected
by a point at the origin. If I have unwitting removed any of my original misrepresentations, then I apologize.
]
SC ““Oh gee do you think he thought it was disguised by statements where I pretty much pointed out something was disguised? Such as when I said:
‘‘Rather than compute the midpoint via a simple calculation: The following [are] computational theatrics
Sheesh! ””
That wasn’’t my point. My point was that Dave Thomas pointed out how the answer was snuck in,in your example. You haven’’t shown if or how his answer was snuck in. The piece of code you
identied was a simple length calculation. How does knowing that length=sqrt(dx*dx + dy*dy) sneak in the optimum network?
SC ““A solution can be disguised in software such that it’’s not explicit. The solution can be snuck in without being explicit. That was the whole point of my software examples.””
But your GA example was not a GA, only a crude strawman version of one. Dave Thomas does not
know what the optimum solution to his problem is.
SC ““How about you replace the fitness function with the reverse of choosing LARGER solutions, and tell me if it still guides toward the desired optimal solution so easily.””
That must be a joke. If you select for large individuals, you will get a population of larger and larger networks - there is no limit to how long a network can be. Evolution would produce a population of small networks/organisms by eliminating large ones or favoring small ones.
SC ““How about you replace this:
double dx = xP[k] - xP[j];
double dy = yP[k] - yP[j];
with this:
double dx = xP[k] * xP[j];
double dy = yP[k] * yP[j];
Tell me what you think will happen. ””
I don’’t see that multiplying end coordinates together has a real world equivalent but subtracting coordinates does. Larger differences correspond to longer lengths. In an organism the length and be selected for/against indirectly without being known (eg increased cost of building/maintenance, tendency to break/spring leaks etc.)
However, if we were to change the code, it’’s pretty obvious that lines which have end points near x=0 or y=0 will be ““fitter””. So I would expect to end up with a population of lines which end near an axis, or optimally a variable point at the origin (0,0), connected to each of the six fixed points. Total cost 0.
SC ““Because I didn’’t feel like pointing out his whole program is permeated with design, and all those other details help sneak the answer in. I pointed to the highlights.””
You pointed to a simple length calculation. If there is another part of the program which sneaks in functions for contructing an optimum Steimer network, you haven’’t shown it - merely
asserted that they exist.
““He’’s being highly disingenuous if he’’s suggesting his answer is snuck in at one spot, when the fact the it is practically the whole program (minus a few areas) when executed constitutes sneaking the answer in.””
I haven’’t seen him claim that he was sneaking an anwser in at one spot. Who’’s misrepresenting whom now?
Comment by steveh —— August 19, 2006 @ 3:13 pm

14. Zero // Aug 19th 2006 at 10:16 pm
Sal, my E is on my URL (About the rock)
Here’’s more on symmetry. I really would
like to see you open a thread on it.
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Nope, things are symmetrical because it’’s fairly convenient and easy to code for in the genetic code. Rather than having genes for describing both sides, you just specify one side and then mirror it.
You are correct, though, that there is a pattern in life. The entire universe consists of patterns - this is why we can discover the rules of the universe, because it is predictable. That, unfortunately, is your failing. Rather than look for true patterns, you simply look for what fits. This is not the way the universe works.
Posted by: Xanthir | August 18, 2006 09:27 PM
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xanthir, who desides to place the mirrors and where?
Symmetry has to do with ““one fold””, then
whatever is folded can be shaped like paper dolls,
leaves,blades of grass, hearts,ect. Even a blind person can do it.
IMO, God set the rules and made the ““patterns””:
Exd 25:9 According to all that I shew thee, [after] the pattern of the tabernacle, and the pattern of all the instruments thereof, even so shall ye make [it].
Exd 25:40 And look that thou make [them] after their pattern, which was shewed thee in the mount.
Num 8:4 And this work of the candlestick [was of] beaten gold, unto the shaft thereof, unto the flowers thereof, [was] beaten work: according unto the pattern which the LORD had shewed Moses, so he made the candlestick.
Jos 22:28 Therefore said we, that it shall be, when they should [so] say to us or to our generations in time to come, that we may say [again], Behold the pattern of the altar of the LORD, which our fathers made, not for burnt offerings, nor for sacrifices; but it [is] a witness between us and you.
1Ch 28:11 Then David gave to Solomon his son the pattern of the porch, and of the houses thereof, and of the treasuries thereof, and of the upper chambers thereof, and of the inner parlours thereof, and of the place of the mercy seat,
1Ch 28:12 And the pattern of all that he had by the spirit, of the courts of the house of the LORD, and of all the chambers round about, of the treasuries of the house of God, and of the treasuries of the dedicated things:
1Ch 28:18 And for the altar of incense refined gold by weight; and gold for the pattern of the chariot of the cherubims, that spread out [their wings], and covered the ark of the covenant of the LORD.
1Ch 28:19 All [this, said David], the LORD made me understand in writing by [his] hand upon me, [even] all the works of this pattern.
Eze 43:10 Thou son of man, shew the house to the house of Israel, that they may be ashamed of their iniquities: and let them measure the pattern.
Hbr 8:5 Who serve unto the example and shadow of heavenly things, as Moses was admonished of God when he was about to make the tabernacle: for, See, saith he, [that] thou make all things according to the pattern shewed to thee in the mount.
BTW, allthough the parts came from all over the
world and everything ““fit”” without noise of hammer.
Blessings
Zero
Comment by Zero —— August 19, 2006 @ 10:16 pm

15. Zero // Aug 27th 2006 at 10:04 pm
Here’’s more on symmetery. IMO, the best proof of ID.
The full thread is posted on bloglines/blog/hereoisreal
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Sorry for the late response.
““Sometimes I add, sometimes subtract, sometimes divide, and other times multiply G, O, and D to, as you say ““fit””. IMO, there are no rules.””
Thank you for admitting that. This is a great relief to me, because it means that everything you say is, unfortunately, complete nonsense. *Real* patterns do follow rules. If you mix and match things to make your data fit your expectations, you aren’’t doing science. You aren’’t using logic. You are simply making stuff up.
If there was some science, some regularity, in what you say, then I’’d have to look into it very closely. Without it, though, I can simply discard all your reasoning, because it’’s all fundamentally flawed. Nothing you find is worthwhile without a pattern behind it.
It was nice talking to you, Zero. I hope you draw something from this discussion. If you can find messages in the bible while being consistent in your methods, I will listen. Until then, I bid you good luck, and safe journeys.
Posted by: Xanthir | August 16, 2006 05:32 PM
““If you can find messages in the bible while being consistent in your methods, I will listen. Until then, I bid you good luck, and safe journeys.””*******************************************************
Xanthir, there is a pattern in life. All living
things, and fossels too, are symmetrical by chance, just like the center of heaven. Also like the name of the mother of all living, ““EVE””. Also like the creator’’s
name, ”” I Am that I Am ””
.Exd 25:20 And the cherubims shall stretch forth [their] wings on high, covering the mercy seat with their wings, and their faces [shall look] one to another; toward the mercy seat shall the faces of the cherubims be.
Exd 25:22 And there I will meet with thee, and I will commune with thee from above the mercy seat, from between the two cherubims which [are] upon the ark of the testimony, of all [things] which I will give thee in commandment unto the children of Israel.
Jos 8:33 And all Israel, and their elders, and officers, and their judges, stood on this side the ark and on that side before the priests the Levites, which bare the ark of the covenant of the LORD, as well the stranger, as he that was born among them; half of them over against mount Gerizim, and half of them over against mount Ebal; as Moses the servant of the LORD had commanded before, that they should bless the people of Israel.
Blessings
Zero
Posted by: Zero | August 18, 2006 01:52 AM
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Nope, things are symmetrical because it’’s fairly convenient and easy to code for in the genetic code. Rather than having genes for describing both sides, you just specify one side and then mirror it.
You are correct, though, that there is a pattern in life. The entire universe consists of patterns - this is why we can discover the rules of the universe, because it is predictable. That, unfortunately, is your failing. Rather than look for true patterns, you simply look for what fits. This is not the way the universe works.
Posted by: Xanthir | August 18, 2006 09:27 PM
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xanthir, who desides to place the mirrors and where?
Symmetry has to do with ““one fold””, then
whatever is folded can be shaped like paper dolls,
leaves,blades of grass, hearts,ect. Even a blind person can do it.
IMO, God set the rules and made the ““patterns””:
Exd 25:9 According to all that I shew thee, [after] the pattern of the tabernacle, and the pattern of all the instruments thereof, even so shall ye make [it].
Exd 25:40 And look that thou make [them] after their pattern, which was shewed thee in the mount.
Num 8:4 And this work of the candlestick [was of] beaten gold, unto the shaft thereof, unto the flowers thereof, [was] beaten work: according unto the pattern which the LORD had shewed Moses, so he made the candlestick.
Jos 22:28 Therefore said we, that it shall be, when they should [so] say to us or to our generations in time to come, that we may say [again], Behold the pattern of the altar of the LORD, which our fathers made, not for burnt offerings, nor for sacrifices; but it [is] a witness between us and you.
1Ch 28:11 Then David gave to Solomon his son the pattern of the porch, and of the houses thereof, and of the treasuries thereof, and of the upper chambers thereof, and of the inner parlours thereof, and of the place of the mercy seat,
1Ch 28:12 And the pattern of all that he had by the spirit, of the courts of the house of the LORD, and of all the chambers round about, of the treasuries of the house of God, and of the treasuries of the dedicated things:
1Ch 28:18 And for the altar of incense refined gold by weight; and gold for the pattern of the chariot of the cherubims, that spread out [their wings], and covered the ark of the covenant of the LORD.
1Ch 28:19 All [this, said David], the LORD made me understand in writing by [his] hand upon me, [even] all the works of this pattern.
Eze 43:10 Thou son of man, shew the house to the house of Israel, that they may be ashamed of their iniquities: and let them measure the pattern.
Hbr 8:5 Who serve unto the example and shadow of heavenly things, as Moses was admonished of God when he was about to make the tabernacle: for, See, saith he, [that] thou make all things according to the pattern shewed to thee in the mount.
BTW, allthough the parts came from all over the
world, everything “fit” without noise of hammer.
Blessings
Zero
Posted by: Zero | August 19, 2006 10:56 PM
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1Ki 6:7 And the house, when it was in building, was built of stone made ready before it was brought thither: so that there was neither hammer nor axe [nor] any tool of iron heard in the house, while it was in building.
xanthir, too bad that this thread died but that that
dies, let it die.
Zero
Posted by: Zero | August 26, 2006 10:15 AM
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Well, the threat didn’’t die of natural causes - you killed it. I was hoping to be able to show you something of how you are being so inconsistent, and why that was bad. Unfortunately, you don’’t seem to be able to listen. You don’’t realize what’’s wrong with being inconsistent. At the same time, you contradict yourself by talking about patterns laid down by God.
If there are patterns, then find them! Show them! Coincidences are not patterns. If you find a lot of coincidences, and they all have a pattern running through them, then you can state that you’’ve found something. But you haven’’t done that. Nothing that you say is anything more than random coincidences, with no underlying order.
Science is all about finding the order behind coincidences, about finding the patterns causing discrepancies. Theories predict consistent thing. When they’’re wrong, they’’re wrong in consistent ways, and that order that you find in the mistakes is the key to generating the new, still consistent theory.
But you aren’’t finding order. You aren’’t finding patterns. You’’re finding coincidences by any way possible.
Plus, of course, there’’s the whole ““using the Bible in English”” thing, rather than using the languages that it was actually written in.
Posted by: Xanthir | August 26, 2006 03:17 PM
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xanthir posted:
““If there are patterns, then find them! Show them! Coincidences are not patterns. If you find a lot of coincidences, and they all have a pattern running through them, then you can state that you’’ve found something.””
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Exd 25:9 According to all that I shew thee, [after] the pattern of the tabernacle……………………
Exd 25:22 And there I will meet with thee, and I will commune with thee from above the mercy seat, from between the two cherubims …………
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Eureka! I found it! And God sits in the middle. 100 % of all living things, plus all fossels, being symmetrical like the mercy seat, is a pretty good pattern. Try that with ““chance””.
Blessing
Zero
Posted by: Zero | August 26, 2006 06:34 PM
Comment by Zero —— August 27, 2006 @ 10:04 pm

16. Zero // Aug 28th 2006 at 9:54 am
Plus, of course, there’’s the whole ““using the Bible in English”” thing, rather than using the languages that it was actually written in.
Posted by: Xanthir | August 26, 2006 03:17 PM
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But then, ““paradise”” (pair rode Az) Zec 9:9 in Greek would have been Greek to me.
Zec 9:9 ¶¶ Rejoice greatly, O daughter of Zion; shout, O daughter of Jerusalem:
behold, thy King cometh unto thee: he [is] just, and having salvation; lowly,
and riding upon an ass, and upon a colt the foal of an ass.
(AZ x one fold = Word) (God x God)
Luk 23:43 And Jesus said unto him, Verily I say unto thee, To day shalt thou be with me in paradise.Rev 2:7 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the tree of life, which is in the midst of the paradise of God.
Also:
““A cd on a hil (child) can knot. Be hid.”” might sound funny latinized.
Mat 5:14 Ye are the light of the world. A city that is set on an hill cannot be hid.
Mat 13:44 Again, the kingdom of heaven is like unto treasure hid in a field; the which when a man hath found, he hideth, and for joy thereof goeth and selleth all that he hath, and buyeth that field.
(Hidden treasure on a level playing field)
Zero
Comment by Zero —— August 28, 2006 @ 9:54 am

17. Zero // Sep 1st 2006 at 10:11 pm
Why symmetry? (balance)
Is life by design or by chance?
IMO, symmetry is the best proof of an IDOL. (Intelligent designer of life)
Science has never found two snow flakes alike, although 100 % have symmetry.
Science has never found two grains of sand alike nor do any have, by chance, symmetry.
Every living thing is symmetrical like the mercy seat in the Holy of Holies. (center of heaven)
There is a pattern in life. All living things are symmetrical just like the center of heaven,
also like the name of the mother of all living, ““EVE””, as well as the creator’’s name, ”” I Am that I Am ““.
Jos 8:33 And all Israel, and their elders, and officers, and their judges, stood on this side the ark and on that side before the priests the Levites, which bare the ark of the covenant of the LORD, as well the stranger, as he that was born among them; half of them over against mount Gerizim, and half of them over against mount Ebal; as Moses the servant of the LORD had commanded before, that they should bless the people of Israel.
Chaos is natural. Order is mind made. Priorities are mind made, planed, set.
Life is about family and home
Luk 9:58 And Jesus said unto him, Foxes have holes, and birds of the air
[have] nests; but the Son of man hath not where to lay [his] head.
The first thing God ““made”” was heaven, a rock in the middle, between ““nests in the air”” and ““holes in the ground””, something that doesn’’t move or change.
Gen 1:7 And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which [were]
under the firmament from the waters which [were] above the firmament: and it was so.
Gen 1:8 And God called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the morning were the second day.
It’’s easier to form order from chaos than to create something from nothing, (See Gen. 1:2) especially if you have a pattern:
Exd 25:9 According to all that I shew thee, [after] the pattern of the tabernacle……………………
Exd 25:20 And the cherubims shall stretch forth [their] wings on high, covering the mercy seat with their wings, and their faces [shall look] one to another; toward the mercy seat shall the faces of the cherubims be.
Exd 25:22 And there I will meet with thee, and I will commune with thee from above the mercy seat, from between the two cherubims …………
Eureka! I found it! (Father, son, and whole sphere, it.) It is ““finished”” and God sits in the middle. 100 % of all living things, plus all fossels, being symmetrical like the mercy seat, is a pretty good pattern. Try that with ““chance””.
God between God is symetrical, also a treasure hidden in a field, leaven hidden in three measures, eleven hidden in 2112 (three measures), ““A cd on a hil (child) can knot. Be hid ““, God and two olive trees, God and two witnesses, God and two candle sticks, God and two thieves, the chariot of Israel and the horsemen thereof, also, a king, ass, and foal:
Zec 9:9 ¶¶ Rejoice greatly, O daughter of Zion; shout, O daughter of Jerusalem:
behold, thy King cometh unto thee: he [is] just, and having salvation; lowly,
and riding upon an ass, and upon a colt the foal of an ass.
Mat 19:6 Wherefore they are no more twain, but one flesh. What therefore
God hath joined together, let not man put asunder.(AZ)
Here is a puzzel. The two easiest pieces to find are the first and last, beginning and end.
Mathematically, AZ x it = Word (God x God)
Jhn 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
Rev 22:13 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.

Why symmetry? It is balance.

Isa 61:1 ¶¶ The Spirit of the Lord GOD [is] upon me; because the LORD hath anointed me to preach good tidings unto the meek; he hath sent me to bind up the brokenhearted, to proclaim liberty to the captives, and the opening of the prison to [them that are] bound;
Isa 61:2 To proclaim the acceptable year of the LORD, and the day of vengeance of our God; to comfort all that mourn;
While, IMO, vengeance is not a healthy motive for living, at least God gets even.
Even, so come Lord Jesus.
Zero
Comment by Zero —— September 1, 2006 @ 10:11 pm

18. Zero // Oct 10th 2006 at 12:38 am

From Allen MacNeill’’s site:
http://evolutionanddesign.blogsome.com/2006....omments
If I might give my ranking of the analogies in science with #1 being the strongest in terms of acceptance as ““valid””:
1. Mathematics
2. Physics and Chemistry
3. Engineering
4. Biological Structure
5. Biological Function
6. historical hypotheses
#1 and #2 are so central to science they are adopted as articles of faith. Given analgous experimental conditions, we expect analogous experimental results
.Comment by Salvador T. Cordova, IDEA GMU —— August 3, 2006 @ 3:19 pm
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My post:
Sal,I like the way you think. If the numbers
don’’t add up, somethin’’s not right.
You’’ll find lots of them that do at:
http://www.hereoisreal.com
more at:
http://www.bloglines.com/blog/hereoisreal
and
http://scienceblogs.com/goodmat....omments
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Symmetry is balance
Job 31:6 Let me be weighed in an even balance, that God may know mine integrity.
Zero
Comment by Zero —— October 10, 2006 @ 12:38 am

19. Zero // Oct 15th 2006 at 9:51 pm
55. Zero // Oct 15th 2006 at 7:54 pm
SeekAndFind :
““How about the INTENT and PURPOSE of the Designer ?””
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The seventy weeks of Daniel

Dan 9:25 Know therefore and understand, [that] from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince
[shall be] seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times.

W x O x R x D = 360 x 69 weeks (seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks)
sixty nine 360s + one 360 = 70 weeks
70 x 360 = 25,200 days start to finish (Word + 360) See John 1:1
One x one week = love x G x O x D (90 % of 25,200)
Dan 9:24 ¶¶ Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end
of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy.

Blessings
Zero

Comment by Zero —— October 15, 2006 @ 9:51 pm

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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 22 2006,16:49   

Sal's post from Allen's web site:

If I might give my ranking of the analogies in science with #1 being the strongest in terms of acceptance as “valid”:
1. Mathematics
2. Physics and Chemistry
3. Engineering
4. Biological Structure
5. Biological Function
6. historical hypotheses
#1 and #2 are so central to science they are adopted as articles of faith. Given analgous experimental conditions, we expect analogous experimental results
.Comment by Salvador T. Cordova, IDEA GMU — August 3, 2006 @ 3:19 pm
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The following is pure math, like one and one equals two.
I take  liberty with "AZ", partly because I don't want you to know everything I know, and partly because I want you to discover things yourself.
AZ is not A x Z.  It is "first x last" (God between God )  See Exd 25:22


.Jhn 1:1  In the beginning was the Word, and the
Word was with God, and the Word was God.

( W + O + R + D ) x 3 AZ = Love x G x O x D  (22,680)   John 1:1
22,680 x 1.5 = iron   (34,020)    
AZ + half AZ x (love + AZ) = iron   Zec. 9;9
God x love over two = iron  ( i x r x o x n ) Rev 12:5  


(seven 360s folded) x 54/2) = 1260 x 27  (iron)
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God x God x God = 47,900,160
Word x 3 x God...= 47,900,160
Iron x 2 x God ....= 47,900,160

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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 22 2006,18:25   

Hey Zero, has anyone ever told you how witty and interesting your lengthy C&P jobs are?




They haven't?




Then where in he11 did you get the idea from??!?, you brain-scrambled bandwidth-wasting knob.  :angry:

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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 23 2006,02:57   

Quote (stevestory @ Oct. 19 2006,20:43)
so in conclusion, even though most of us probably won't like your ideas, you'll get a fairer hearing here than there.

And some of us have come back after some time away and have absolutely no idea what those ideas are  :D

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And take nothing but a grip
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It's a necessary trip

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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 23 2006,03:51   

Quote (Chris Hyland @ Oct. 19 2006,17:26)
Quote
If, on your birthday, two of your grandchildren gave you gifts, one a bouquet
of flowers and the other a lit stick of dynamite with a short fuse,
which one would you respect most?
The one with the flowers.

Wrong Chris, flowers can't harm you.

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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 23 2006,04:14   

Quote (hereoisreal @ Oct. 23 2006,09:51)
Quote (Chris Hyland @ Oct. 19 2006,17:26)
 
Quote
If, on your birthday, two of your grandchildren gave you gifts, one a bouquet
of flowers and the other a lit stick of dynamite with a short fuse,
which one would you respect most?
The one with the flowers.

Wrong Chris, flowers can't harm you.

Yeah, tell that to John Otway.

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Many Jews were in comfortable oblivion about Hitler ... until it was too late.
Many scientists will persist in comfortable oblivion about their Creator ... until it is too late.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 23 2006,04:33   

Quote (improvius @ Oct. 23 2006,09:14)
Quote (hereoisreal @ Oct. 23 2006,09:51)
 
Quote (Chris Hyland @ Oct. 19 2006,17:26)
   
Quote
If, on your birthday, two of your grandchildren gave you gifts, one a bouquet
of flowers and the other a lit stick of dynamite with a short fuse,
which one would you respect most?
The one with the flowers.

Wrong Chris, flowers can't harm you.

Yeah, tell that to John Otway.

improvius, I'm kinda slow most of the time.
Who is John Otway?

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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 23 2006,04:52   

Quote (hereoisreal @ Oct. 23 2006,09:33)
Quote (improvius @ Oct. 23 2006,09:14)
 
Quote (hereoisreal @ Oct. 23 2006,09:51)
 
Quote (Chris Hyland @ Oct. 19 2006,17:26)
   
Quote
If, on your birthday, two of your grandchildren gave you gifts, one a bouquet
of flowers and the other a lit stick of dynamite with a short fuse,
which one would you respect most?
The one with the flowers.

Wrong Chris, flowers can't harm you.

Yeah, tell that to John Otway.

improvius, I'm kinda slow most of the time.
Who is John Otway?

Is he John Elway's brother?

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It's not over till the fat lady sings! (Isa. 54:1 & Zec 9:9)

   
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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 23 2006,05:18   

Quote (guthrie @ Oct. 20 2006,15:58)
Their not even original jokes.  Go on, come up with something new and exciting, after all you are here to entertain us.

guthrie, would you tell me an original joke and I'll let
you know if I've heard it.
You know people say, "If you love someone, they can
do no wrong.  If you hate someone, they can do
no right."

A man had two sons. He said to one, "Go", and the son
said he would and didn't.  The father then said to
the other, "Go", and the son replied, "I will not go."
but did.  
Which did the father's will?

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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 23 2006,07:22   

Jhn 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth,
and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

1Ch 29:11 Thine, O LORD, [is] the greatness, and the power, and the glory, and the victory, and the majesty: for all [that is] in the heaven and in the earth [is thine]; thine [is] the kingdom, O LORD, and thou art exalted as head above all.
Psa 145:11 They shall speak of the glory of thy kingdom, and talk of thy power;
Dan 2:37 Thou, O king, [art] a king of kings: for the God of heaven hath given thee a kingdom, power, and strength, and glory.
Mat 6:13 And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil: For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever. Amen.

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I posted on UD months ago when someone was talking
about an automobile being an irreducibly complex system.
I said, "An automobile is not an ICS.  ICS is an automobile, a tank of gas, and a driver that knows where he's goin'.

There was no comment.

Way, truth, & life is ICS
Kingdom, power, & glory is ICS
Mind, soal, & heart is ICS
Vehical, tank of gas, & a driver is ICS
They are all the same thing:
God and a ways & means committee. Zec 9:9

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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 23 2006,18:38   

Hi Bill78, thanks for dropping in. I don't remember what we had been talking
about. Wasn't it the mod's bit on #### and I commented about the 3 H's,
####, heaven, & home.
IMO,life is about family and home, in that order.
My nickname is Zero. People used to shorten hereoisreal to 'hero' and
I don't like that.
Some secrets I'll let you in on: Do A=1,b = 2, c = 3 etc & total the letters of a word for it's value.
78, part of your name, is one total, mathematically, for 3 x God.
It's the sum total of the first 12 numbers and will be forever.
Jesus said, "I have chosen you 12".
The second 12 = 222, 3 x Jesus and the first 12, second 12, & third 12 = 666. ( 9 x Jesus =666 )
Do a word search of 'the father' in KJV and tell me what you come up with.

Did you hear about the spider soooo big, he had a world wide web?
Mathematically WWW = Jehovah ( I AM , I AM, & I AM )
Below, you will find some of the web sites I've been posting on:

http://www.theologyweb.com/campus/f...splay.php?f=161 Theo.

http://www.theologyweb.com/campus/blogs.php?u=2316 my blog on theo

http://www.antievolution.org/cgi-bi...=ST;f=14;t=3399
See topic "Zero resurrected"

http://scienceblogs.com/goodmath/20...an.php#comments


http://www.bloglines.com/blog/hereoisreal (News blog....no commenting)


http://www.hereoisreal.com/ (342 miracle stories about my life & my E address)

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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 23 2006,18:45   

What the f##k are you blithering about . . . . . ?

Geez.

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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 23 2006,18:56   

I said to my housekeeper one day, " Heaven is hexx without law and order.

When he## meets the law, the shxt will hit the fan."

The next morning I opened my newspaper to the front page. The top headline read, "Helmet Law Inforcement Begins".

I saved the paper.
Rev 12:5 And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations
with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and [to] his throne.
OOPS, there goes seperation of church and state.

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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 23 2006,19:09   

October 16, I posted on a web site:

"Symmetry is balance.

Job 31:6 Let me be weighed in an even balance, that God may know mine integrity.

Balance:
Seventy seven fold x love x (love + anger ) = God x God x God
Mathematically the answer to both is 47,900,160."

After that, I picked up my morning newspaper, the Florida Today.
There was just one large picture centered on the front page, a balance scale.

Around 2 O'clock, I went to a thrift store to look for only one item,
a cordless phone. I discovered that they had none on the shelf. As
I turned to leave, one of the clerks was walking toward the shelf with a cordless phone.

The next morning, at 10 o'clock, I took my wife to an eye doctor.
As we were waiting in the reception room, Joan pulled two bananas
from a bag and handed me one. She ate her's but I held mine in my
hand, decideing to eat it later.
I accompanied her to the pre-exam room for awhile but when it
became too crowded, I left.
I then decided to eat my banana, and as I begain to peal it, I noticed
that a technician across from me was pealing one also. I tried to mimic
her every move. When she would take a bite, I would, hopeing she
would notice. She never did.

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Yesterday I posted what, I thought, was a long, profound statement on my thread at

When I awoke this morning, I checked for a response, any response.  There was none.
I was angry and thought of the post I had made yesterday on another site titled:

Does God Have Plans?   (I was specificly  thinking of Plan B where he was taken lightly.)
Plan A:
Mat 22:3 And sent forth his servants to call them that were bidden to the wedding: and they would not come.

Plan B:
Mat 22:4 Again, he sent forth other servants, saying, Tell them which are bidden, Behold, I have prepared
my dinner: my oxen and [my] fatlings [are] killed, and all things [are] ready: come unto the marriage.

Mat 22:5 But they made light of [it], and went their ways, one to his farm, another to his merchandise:
Mat 22:6 And the remnant took his servants, and entreated [them] spitefully, and slew [them]
Mat 22:7 But when the king heard [thereof], he was wroth: and he sent forth his armies, and destroyed those murderers, and burned up their city.

Plan "C"

Mat 22:8 Then saith he to his servants, The wedding is ready, but they which were bidden were not worthy.
Mat 22:9 Go ye therefore into the highways, and as many as ye shall find, bid to the marriage.
Mat 22:10 So those servants went out into the highways, and gathered together all as
many as they found, both bad and good: and the wedding was furnished with guests

Plan "D"
Mat 22:11 And when the king came in to see the guests, he saw there a man which had not on a wedding garment:
Mat 22:13 Then said the king to the servants, Bind him hand and foot,
and take him away, and cast [him] into outer darkness; there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

That made me think about story # 47 on my site:
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OCEAN TO GAS
I went to work one morning and turned to the mechanic next to me and said, "If God wanted to, He could turn the oceans into gas and look for someone with a match." A couple of hours later I was listening to the radio when the news came on. The announcer said that a Cuban refugee had boarded an airliner, thrown gasoline on a stewardess and threatened to strike a match.
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I then walked out to my back porch to smoke.  My lighter would not work.
It was out of fluid.
The Intelligent Designer said in Revelation:
"Love me or hate me.  Make up your mind.  Just don't sit on the fence and be indifferent."  
Rev 3:15 I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou wert cold or hot
Rev 3:16 So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth.
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Doors
I thought to myself," Jesus said he is the door. Doors serve
two purposes. They let people in and they keep people out."

I glanced down at the Reader's Digest that "happened" to
be laying in front of me. On the cover was a story title:
"Immagration now. Who To Let In and Who To Keep Out"
Zero

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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 26 2006,05:26   

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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 26 2006,11:21  
Yellow Blobs On Yellow Brick Roads

Last night I dreamed I was in a head-on automobile

accident and wound up in car heaven. Everything was

sooo beautiful. But lots of yellow. Yellow houses.

Yellow streets. yellow garbage cans, etc... You get the idea.

Among other things, I could see a lot of little yellow

car - shaped blobs moving along the golden streets.


When I ran into an angel, no pun intended, who had yellow stains on his shirt, I asked

him what the blobs were and he replied:

"Well, we get a lot of different models and makes coming up here. Some

with just minor damage, like finder benders or worn out engines. We

try to do the best we can with repairs but with the price of help and all...

The old ones and total wrecks, we just recycle."

I asked, "How do you do that?" so he continued:

"We have this special process where we grind them up,

put them in a vat, add gelatin, water, and a little yellow

gold dust trash. Then we bring it all to a boil while

stirring before pouring into a mold. Those that have

a record of speeding or hitting dogs, we pour into a

form that's shaped like a fire hydrant. They're shipped

off to dog heaven. Because they don't have wheels,

they never come back.

.

The others we use to fill the Volkswagen shaped molds.

We've thought several times about breaking that mold

but actually it works pretty good. They come out docile

and soft like new born babies. They're kinda slow so

they can't hurt anyone and they don't kill dogs.

That's the mold we're going to pour you into so

when you happen to meet up with another, you can

yell, "Oh! Hello fellow mellow yellow jello. Are you jellin'."

I woke up a total wreck. I thought to myself, " What is this

yellow sand doing in my bed?"

Ps:

I ran in to this guy the other day who had yellow, orange,

purple, and blue sploches of color on his T - shirt.

Across the front it said, " I ran into Tammy Faye."

   
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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 26 2006,05:29   

Thanks, Steve.  I was in the process of posting such a request in the UD thread when this crap disappeared.

I for one appreciate it.

Peace.

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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 26 2006,06:18   

Happy Gilmore

About four and a half years ago, I think it was

the day my wife Joan had her hole - in - one

at La Cita, she and I were discussing spectacular golf shots.

I said, " You may not have heard about this, but Andrew

Magee had a hole - in - one while playing a par 4

on the PGA tour this year (2001) at the Phoenix

open. A player on the green was practicing his

putting stroke when Andrew's drive ricocheted

off the back of his putter into the hole."

Then I continued, " I remember, years ago,

reading about something even stranger...a golfer on a par 3

overshot the green. His ball glanced off of a

volkswagen going by on the road, fell back onto the

green and rolled in the cup."

At the time I had read it, I imagined a specific colored

car, yellow.

That night I asked Joan what she would like to do.

She replied,

" Let's watch one of the DVDS we got when we bought our

player the other day". We had never used it.

Since I had golf on my mind, I inserted a movie titled"Happy Gilmore".

It is about an x-hockey player who gets

on the PGA tour basically because he had hit a hole - in - one

on a par 4 hole. He also used a hockey stick sometimes

as an iron or a putter.

He makes his last shot of a tournament to win by glancing

his ball, first, off of a yellow volkswagen, then through a Rube

Goldberg maze, (a fallen tower), into the hole.

At the time we owned a cocktail lounge.

Sometime later I installed another TV down the bar

which included a DVD player, away from the one I

always had on mostly for live sports.

One Sunday afternoon I was tending bar alone. I had only

one customer, a young man in his twenties.

We both were watching PGA golf and I had "Happy

Gilmore" playing on the DVD.

The young man made a comment, " I could hit that ball if

they let me use a baseball bat."

I replied, " Why not use a hockey stick like Happy?"

I glanced over to the other TV to see Happy putting

with his hockey stick.

The announcer on live TV said at that moment, and I

don't know what prompted his remark, " If you hit a golf

ball with a hockey stick, you have to hit it straight on."

I told someone at the bar the above story a few days

later, then left the bar, got in my truck and drove south

toward Mims, thinking about what I had just discussed.


As I pulled up to the red light at 46, a yellow vw turned

left in front of me.

Two weeks later, Joan and I drove to Ft. Myers to try

to locate her brother she hadn't heard from in 46 years.

After finding him and talking for a while, he

remarked,"Let me show you my old cars."

We walked around to the back and when he raised the

garage door, a yellow volkswagen appeared.

Now, when I see a yellow vw, it's special to me.

Last week, just after seeing one pass, I crossed the

street and walked into a thrift store. Just inside was a

toy model vw on a pedestal.

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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 26 2006,09:59   

Jhn 6:70 Jesus answered them, Have not I chosen you twelve, and one of you is a devil?
first 12 = 3 X God
second 12 = 3 X Jesus
12 X Jesus = 888 ( 3 infinitys turned 90 degrees.)
88 X 8 = 704 (God )

Rev 12:4 And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth: and the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born.

Rev 12:9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

I = 9 (beginning) The first letter in the bible
N = 14 (last) The last letter in the bible
I + N = 23,end, I AM
3 X I AM = Jehovah

I X N (first & last ) = AZ ( 126) Alpha & omega, God between God

Exd 25:22 And there I will meet with thee, and I will commune with thee from above the mercy seat, from between the two cherubims which [are] upon the ark of the testimony, of all [things] which I will give thee in commandment unto the children of Israel.

AZ X 180 (AZ + love ) = Love x G x O X D  John 1:1

Man's best friend is God turned backward.

Rev 22:13 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.

If you had a 1000 piece puzzle to put together, the
easyest two pieces to find are the first and last.

Zero

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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 26 2006,10:21   

This story has a ring to it:

In January, 2004, I was on my patio when I noticed my neighbor out in his backyard with a metal detector. He must have spent 3-4 hours scanning his grass.
I asked him the next day, as I leaned over our fence, what had he lost. He said that he was losing weight and had lost his gold wedding ring but didn't have any idea where or when. I then glanced to my left about 8-10 feet and spotted his ring in the grass.
Night before last, Joan's sister and husband were over and I told them the above story. The next day after we had done some shopping , we were having lunch at home when Shirley, my sis-in-law discovered one of her gold ear rings was missing. We searched the house for about an hour, then backtracked. While Bob and I went to one store, my wife and Shirley went to another.
They pulled into the yard about 5 minutes after Bob and I with the ear ring.
Joan said that the one parking spot I had used that morning was empty so she parked there. They searched through the whole store and around the parking space before finally getting back in the car. Then Joan told Shirley to get out one more time and look around the parking spot, which she did and got back in. As Joan was backing out, she spotted the ear ring in the sand
In February of 06, I was playing golf and riding with Dick Ledger in his cart when he mentioned that he was having trouble keeping his wedding ring on because he was losing weight.
The remark brought back memories of the above story from the year before so I told it to him.
When I arrived home that afternoon, my wife told me that she had spoken to
Janet White on the phone and learned that Bill, her husband, had lost his ring finger while trying to lift something heavy from his son's truck.
A few days later, Bob and Shirley came to visit again and I told them all of
the above. Just before they were about to leave, Bob discovered he had lost his wedding band. (He had been losing weight.)
After they left, my wife continued to look for the ring and asked me to help.
I didn&#915;ÇÖt and said to her, " He&#915;ÇÖll probably find it in his trunk"
Our maid, Susan came that day so my wife asked her to keep an eye out for it also. I told her the complete story up till then And then, I told her a ring joke.
I said, " Do you know why my fanger smells like limon pie? It&#915;ÇÖs got
my rang on it."
That night Shirley called. She said Bob had found his ring in the trunk.
The next time Susan came, I told her that Bob had found his ring.
She replied, " After you told me the ring joke, I went home and found
my mother in the kitchen. I asked her what she was baking and she replied,
"Limon meringue pie."

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Here's story # 283 on my web page:

THE STORY OF THE THREE BARES

There are two infinities and I am not talking about cars. There's infinity "big" and there"s infinity "small". Infinity big is composed of an infinite number of infinite smalls.

You can search in and out, up and down, east and west, as far and as long as you wish. You can even design and build tools to help you along, but they are unending. Man tries to find the small end with a microscope and the big end with a telescope. You were born with naked eyes to function and behold the world around you. That is a bare fact.

There are three time periods: the past, present and future. You cannot live in the past or future.

There are three heavenly bodies that play the greatest role in our lives. The sun, earth and moon. One is too big; one is too little; the other is just right. One is too hot; one is too cold; the other is just right.

Rev 12:1 And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars:

I was thinking about that one day as I picked up a Reader"s Digest. I clumsily opened the book near the middle and my eyes fell on some lines of humor, which I began to read. A man vacationing, I believe in a national park, went to the public bath to shower. When he tried unsuccessfully to adjust the water temperature, he shouted in disgust, "This water is too cold." Another grown-up voice hollered, "This water is too hot." Then, from a third stall, a small voice proclaimed, "This water is just right."

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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 26 2006,10:48   

From my perspecktive, how big am I?

IMO, there are two infinities, big & small.
Infinity "big" is plus. Infinity "small" is minus

Isa 40:12 ¶ Who hath measured the waters in the hollow
of his hand, and meted out heaven with the span, and comprehended the dust of the earth in a measure, and weighed the mountains in scales, and the hills in a balance?

me.................a speck on earth
earth..............a speck in the milky way
milky way........a speck in the universe
universe..........a speck in God's pocket

From my perspective:
Anything smaller than me is small.
Anything bigger than me is big.

Zero

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I had posted the above months ago on:


http://www.theologyweb.com/campus/forumdisplay.php?f=161

It received no comments.

I was thinking about that one day when I glanced down to the back edge of a Reader's Digest stacked between other books in front of me.

It said, " America In Your Pocket".

I had forgotten America.

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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 26 2006,15:00   

Zero,

Does this number sequence mean anything in your world?

0, 1, 1, 2, 3, 5, 8, 13, 21, 34, 55, 89, 144, 233, 377, 610, 987, 1597, 2584, 4181, 6765, 10946, 17711

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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 26 2006,16:12   

No, but it must in yours or you would have been
waisting your time.

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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 26 2006,16:21   

Quote (hereoisreal @ Oct. 26 2006,22:12)
No, but it must in yours or you would have been
your time.

It is called a fibonacci sequence.  It is a naturally occuring sequence in things like the chambers in nautilus shells and the number of sunflower seeds.

Since you are so into numbers I thought you might find it interesting and God-related.

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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 26 2006,17:24   

No, but I have found, and you can check my writeings,
every living thing, and some that are not, like
crystals and snowflakes, are symmetrical or have
parts that are symmetrical just like the
center of heaven.

That's not by chance.

I have found an analogy between "Soloman and
all his glory" and a lilly. So Jesus knew what he
was talking about.

Also everyone knows how to turn water to wine
but how do you turn wine to water, like Gideon's
analogy of the wet and dry fleece?

How does God arm a gideon (doubter) for the
battle of Armageddon?
Do a miracle, then do another exactly backwards,
like an image or fold.

Blessings

Zero

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