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Alan Fox



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(Permalink) Posted: July 06 2008,06:57   

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You can go to Telicthoughts.com and click on my name and read all my blogs, in fact I challenge anyone to do so.


If I do as you say, I get this which appears to just tell me your email. It lists thread titles from all contributors, but that is not very helpful. You must know the title of a thread post or two that you are proud of, surely?

  
Guts



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(Permalink) Posted: July 06 2008,06:59   

Go to any blog I wrote and click there, not on the sidebar you twit

  
Guts



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(Permalink) Posted: July 06 2008,07:00   

Safety of TT ? I never said any such thing you're a moron

  
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(Permalink) Posted: July 06 2008,07:03   

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Safety of TT ? I never said any such thing you're a moron

Your IQ must be off the scale.

I've rarely seen such a refined wit.

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Guts



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(Permalink) Posted: July 06 2008,07:04   

Thanks, but I still think you're a retard. Flattery won't get you anywhere.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: July 06 2008,07:06   

Carlson using stars to simulate "emotes" that is so weird, i gotta tell ya.

  
Alan Fox



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(Permalink) Posted: July 06 2008,07:16   

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Go to any blog I wrote and click there, not on the sidebar you twit

Thanks for explaining :)

I have skimmed through the list and, frankly, there is not much substantive content from you, rather than lifting quotes from others. I will lift something from the list if you want, but generally someone such as Zachriel or Nick Matzke seem to have dealt adequately with your position. I can't believe you don't have a favourite thread where your debating skills are particulary well-demonstrated.

  
Guts



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(Permalink) Posted: July 06 2008,07:17   

"not much substantive content" is just you saying you can't respond because you're stupid. Just admit it.

  
Guts



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(Permalink) Posted: July 06 2008,07:19   

Alan seriously, just admit you can't respond because you don't have the knowledge necessary to respond, you'll gain more credibility by doing so.

  
RupertG



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(Permalink) Posted: July 06 2008,07:22   

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Because this thread is obviously not about evidence or logic, it's about who can throw the best turd. You hit the nail on the head there. You can go to Telicthoughts.com and click on my name and read all my blogs, in fact I challenge anyone to do so.

But when I was on Telic Thoughts and I asked you for your position, you said "I've stated it many times already, it's all here" and refused to be specific.

People who press you on the point get banned.

People here who ask for evidence and logic are told that they're - what? Stupid? Liars? Deceivers? That's far less effective than giving them evidence and logic and then showing that they're stupid, lying or deceptive.

You may not see this as an exercise in avoiding any specificity, but it very much looks like it from here.

Given that you don't want it to look like that - which I assume, but feel free to tell me that assumption is false - why don't you have any interest in changing that perception? And if you do have that interest, why not do what everyone's asking you to do and be specific?

It could be that you're on a Zen jag, and are hitting the novices with sticks while asking paradoxical koans as an aid to enlightenment. There's a fine line between that and being a violent schizophrenic, though: Zen masters normally exhibit the wisdom of context.

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Guts



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(Permalink) Posted: July 06 2008,07:24   

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But when I was on Telic Thoughts and I asked you for your position, you said "I've stated it many times already, it's all here" and refused to be specific.

People who press you on the point get banned.


More lies. In fact no one has asked me for my position, much less have been banned for it. When will the lies stop?

  
Guts



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(Permalink) Posted: July 06 2008,07:25   

Alan Fox, you still there? You gonna respond to any of my technical blogs?

  
Alan Fox



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(Permalink) Posted: July 06 2008,07:27   

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Alan seriously, just admit you can't respond because you don't have the knowledge necessary to respond, you'll gain more credibility by doing so.

It seems to me that if you want to fulfill your challenge, you would be the best person to provide material, as, presumably, you know where to look. I never offered to debate you, and I claim no special knowledge, other than BS biochemistry of many years ago.

So, I claim that I can find no substantive, unrefuted defence of Intelligent design as a worthwhile scientific pursuit anywhere at Telic Thoughts in your own words.

Please demonstrate that I am wrong. (Preferably with cites.)

  
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(Permalink) Posted: July 06 2008,07:28   

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But when I was on Telic Thoughts and I asked you for your position, you said "I've stated it many times already, it's all here" and refused to be specific.

People who press you on the point get banned.


More lies. In fact no one has asked me for my position, much less have been banned for it. When will the lies stop?

OK, I unequivocally withdraw that part of my post and apologise unreservedly.

Now, will you answer the rest of that post?

Thanks

R

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(Permalink) Posted: July 06 2008,07:29   

lol so I'll take that as a no. Pathetic. Can't even own up to what you consider a "creationist", really? a "creationist" made you look stupid? Wow Alan, just, wow.

  
Alan Fox



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(Permalink) Posted: July 06 2008,07:30   

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In fact no one has asked me for my position
Well, several have just done so, here. Again, what is your position?

  
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(Permalink) Posted: July 06 2008,07:31   

My position is that you're a moron.

  
Alan Fox



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(Permalink) Posted: July 06 2008,07:36   

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You gonna respond to any of my technical blogs?
Is there one that makes some claim supporting Intelligent Design that you could link to?

  
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(Permalink) Posted: July 06 2008,07:38   

From what I gather with this thread, it should be possible for you to take any random scientific one, and demostrate that I am mistaken, you can't even do one? How pathetic is that Alan, I mean really, not one of your choosing? How does that not show that your IQ level is that of a rock?

  
RupertG



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(Permalink) Posted: July 06 2008,07:43   

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My position is that you're a moron.

Assuming you're using one of the old medical definitions of a moron, either an adult with a developmental age between 8 and 12 or an IQ of between 51 and 70, then I think that any objective assessment of Alan's cognitive level based on his use of language, logic and social interaction purely evinced by his postings here would disagree sharply with yours.

Purely on the evidence, of course. Perhaps you can show how you reached your conclusions?

R

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Guts



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(Permalink) Posted: July 06 2008,07:45   

Based on the fact that he can't even take a single one of my technical blog posts and rip it apart.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: July 06 2008,07:45   

Well, it does take a lot of guts to come over here and fill up a couple of pages with insults and egotism, without ever saying anything substantive at all. No brains, but a lot of guts...

Sorry I don't read your contributions to science at your many blogs; I tend to get most of my science from peer-reviewed journals. Perhaps you can give us a citation of your latest contribution to that literature.

And I'm really sorry I haven't heard of you before yesterday. If you can get over that insult to your ego, perhaps you can tell us something you believe in, besides insults.

Oh, and please tell Joy that Isaac Asimov was a biochemist, not a geneticist. Not that she would understand the difference, but because there actually IS a difference. Confusion about science seems to be a prime commodity over there on your "technical" blog...

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Guts



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(Permalink) Posted: July 06 2008,07:47   

I'm not the one that came here and started a mindless thread to attack my website, if you have something substantive to say against anything write, say it. So far, I only see faggotry, which is pathetic.

  
Alan Fox



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(Permalink) Posted: July 06 2008,07:48   

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From what I gather with this thread, it should be possible for you to take any random scientific one, and demostrate that I am mistaken, you can't even do one? How pathetic is that Alan, I mean really, not one of your choosing? How does that not show that your IQ level is that of a rock?

I further suggest that there is no thread topic on TT written by you that (randomly or otherwise) effectively undermines evolutionary theory, or, indeed, produces any evidence that Intelligent Design is more than a philosophical concept.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: July 06 2008,07:49   

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Based on the fact that he can't even take a single one of my technical blog posts and rip it apart.

Name one, Nelson, or link to it.

  
Guts



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(Permalink) Posted: July 06 2008,07:49   

Alan Fox, come on I'm getting sleepy are you seriously this incompetent ?

  
Guts



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(Permalink) Posted: July 06 2008,07:53   

Ok , thats ok, this is simply a consquence of getting yourself "in over your head" maybe you'll be a little more hesitant next time though.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: July 06 2008,07:53   

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Ah I think Nelson/Guts is attempting the debating tactic of provoking a banning, sometimes referred to as "death by Cop", I believe.

This is all very illuminating, Sir.

(Edited for spelling)

If I may be so immodest, I would guess that Guts/Nelson's steady stream of ridiculous outbursts are a reaction to his dishonest character being buck-naked exposed by yours truly in the email correspondence I just posted (Nelson Alonso).  It's a devastating blow to him personally.  He is embarrassed, and he gropes frantically for some way, any way, to respond.  If it was not already common knowledge that his real name is Nelson Alonso, that would add to the impact.  He is unable to address his own unethical behavior shown in that correspondence, so he seeks some way to distract himself and others.

Or perhaps it is my wishful thinking that I could provoke such a funny response.  In any case, carry on, young fool!  You are the wind beneath my wings.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: July 06 2008,07:54   

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In fact no one has asked me for my position
Well, several have just done so, here. Again, what is your position?

I found it:



Sorta ass out, with pouty lips. Some side-boob for a reach-around.

OK, back to making a fool out of yourself, Guts.

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Guts



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(Permalink) Posted: July 06 2008,07:56   

I'm hotter than that actually.

Frostman,

For the third time, tell me what your mom thinks of you talking to yourself in the third person. I'm sure she disapproves. I mean, thats just nuts .

  
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