RSS 2.0 Feed

» Welcome Guest Log In :: Register

Pages: (117) < ... 8 9 10 11 12 [13] 14 15 16 17 18 ... >   
  Topic: Telic Thoughts Thread< Next Oldest | Next Newest >  
Bob O'H



Posts: 1956
Joined: Oct. 2005

(Permalink) Posted: July 06 2008,02:18   

Quote (Albatrossity2 @ July 05 2008,20:29)
Joy replied  
Quote
Are you saying that the bacteria have human genes? What kind of bacteria is this, anyway? ...

It's E. coli.  Ask Prof. Lenski to send you some.

--------------
ID theorists donít postulate a designer for their arguments. - Crandaddy
There is no connection between a peppered moth, natural selection, and religion that I can see. - FtK

   
Guts



Posts: 226
Joined: Nov. 2007

(Permalink) Posted: July 06 2008,02:23   

I'll post another example of deception, this time from steve:

http://www.antievolution.org/cgi-bin....y110698

He claims that we moderated his comment, and yet here it is on the live site:

http://telicthoughts.com/aiguys-computer/#comment-193776

  
Guts



Posts: 226
Joined: Nov. 2007

(Permalink) Posted: July 06 2008,02:27   

It'll be fun excersize for the comming weeks to continue to point out just how deceptive the denizens of AE can be, perhaps even occasionally cross post it to AE. See you guys later.

  
Guts



Posts: 226
Joined: Nov. 2007

(Permalink) Posted: July 06 2008,02:28   

oops i meant "exercise"  and cross post it to TT. You guys should get out of the dark ages, these board functions suck.

  
Dr.GH



Posts: 1950
Joined: May 2002

(Permalink) Posted: July 06 2008,03:40   

I don't look at TT having had my fill of Mike Gene years ago on the ARN BB. From the last two pages of this tread, I have not missed anything.

--------------
"Science is the horse that pulls the cart of philosophy."

L. Susskind, 2004 "SMOLIN VS. SUSSKIND: THE ANTHROPIC PRINCIPLE"

   
Guts



Posts: 226
Joined: Nov. 2007

(Permalink) Posted: July 06 2008,04:18   

yeah but Dr. GH  you're nothing but an alcoholic, so you're not in any way credible.

  
Zarquon



Posts: 71
Joined: Feb. 2006

(Permalink) Posted: July 06 2008,04:27   

Creationists are even less credible.

  
Guts



Posts: 226
Joined: Nov. 2007

(Permalink) Posted: July 06 2008,04:29   

Yeah you creationists are unreliable , you are all no different from creationists.What with your ultra darwinist beliefs, its pathetic.

  
Guts



Posts: 226
Joined: Nov. 2007

(Permalink) Posted: July 06 2008,04:58   

Dam even my blog has more complex functions then this piece of shit board. you guys must be dumbasses.

  
Guts



Posts: 226
Joined: Nov. 2007

(Permalink) Posted: July 06 2008,04:59   

"than this" stupid board

  
dnmlthr



Posts: 565
Joined: Mar. 2008

(Permalink) Posted: July 06 2008,05:00   

Quote (Guts @ July 06 2008,10:29)
Yeah you creationists are unreliable , you are all no different from creationists.What with your ultra darwinist beliefs, its pathetic.

Then again, there's this pesky little thing called "evidence" that creationists, regardless of what cheap tuxedo they may favor, just seem to lack. Or disregard rather.

--------------
Guess what? I don't give a flying f*ck how "science works" - Ftk

  
Guts



Posts: 226
Joined: Nov. 2007

(Permalink) Posted: July 06 2008,05:03   

I have more evidence for my position than you have for the existence of your own brain. Please

  
dnmlthr



Posts: 565
Joined: Mar. 2008

(Permalink) Posted: July 06 2008,05:08   

Quote (Guts @ July 06 2008,11:03)
I have more evidence for my position than you have for the existence of your own brain. Please

Great! It's getting published any day now I take it?
Well, you know where to find this thread when it's time to gloat after you've revolutionized the world of science.

--------------
Guess what? I don't give a flying f*ck how "science works" - Ftk

  
oldmanintheskydidntdoit



Posts: 4999
Joined: July 2006

(Permalink) Posted: July 06 2008,05:09   

Quote (Guts @ July 06 2008,05:03)
I have more evidence for my position than you have for the existence of your own brain. Please

Guts,

You sound like an angry 13 year old boy.

Then again, I've read your blog.

Guts, here's a challenge. Have a debate about an issue here, where you can't censor opposing views.

How about it?

Or does the thought of being shown to be a scientific ignoramus in a venue you don't control a frighting one?

And you'd better let the Pope know about the "evidence" for your position. They've been looking for some proof now for a while. *Any* proof.

--------------
I also mentioned that He'd have to give me a thorough explanation as to *why* I must "eat human babies".
FTK

if there are even critical flaws in Gaugerís work, the evo mat narrative cannot stand
Gordon Mullings

  
Guts



Posts: 226
Joined: Nov. 2007

(Permalink) Posted: July 06 2008,05:10   

I'll debate any of you any time any day, I've been doing it for years. Notice how steve stays clear away from any of my technical blogs. It's because he's scientifically illiterate.

  
Guts



Posts: 226
Joined: Nov. 2007

(Permalink) Posted: July 06 2008,05:15   

Doesn't that bother you guys? That even your own moderator can't debate the important issues? If I was a part of this board, it would bother me.

  
oldmanintheskydidntdoit



Posts: 4999
Joined: July 2006

(Permalink) Posted: July 06 2008,05:18   

Quote (Guts @ July 06 2008,05:10)
I'll debate any of you any time any day, I've been doing it for years.

Where?

--------------
I also mentioned that He'd have to give me a thorough explanation as to *why* I must "eat human babies".
FTK

if there are even critical flaws in Gaugerís work, the evo mat narrative cannot stand
Gordon Mullings

  
Guts



Posts: 226
Joined: Nov. 2007

(Permalink) Posted: July 06 2008,05:20   

Right here. Come at me, I dare you.

  
oldmanintheskydidntdoit



Posts: 4999
Joined: July 2006

(Permalink) Posted: July 06 2008,05:21   

Please state:

A) The essence of your position

B) The single best piece of physical evidence for your position

C) A prediction that can be checked experientially that will
provide support for your position that will result in a different answer from the "standard" position.

----------------------

A) The diversity of biological life we see around us did not require any "telic" or supernatural intervention to come into being and can can be explained either by known processes or unknown, but not supernatural, processes. In addition, there was no "front loading".

B) I really like the sequence of horse fossils, but pick anything from http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/faq-transitional.html it's all the same.
Quote
Did God create Hyracotherium, then kill off Hyracotherium and create some Hyracotherium-Orohippus intermediates, then kill off the intermediates and create Orohippus, then kill off Orohippus and create Epihippus, then allow Epihippus to "microevolve" into Duchesnehippus, then kill off Duchesnehippus and create Mesohippus, then create some Mesohippus-Miohippus intermediates, then create Miohippus, then kill off Mesohippus, etc.....each species coincidentally similar to the species that came just before and came just after?

http://chem.tufts.edu/science/evolution/HorseEvolution.htm

C) Obviously this is the key here Guts, can you make such a prediction? Or is "DNA is complex" it?

--------------
I also mentioned that He'd have to give me a thorough explanation as to *why* I must "eat human babies".
FTK

if there are even critical flaws in Gaugerís work, the evo mat narrative cannot stand
Gordon Mullings

  
Guts



Posts: 226
Joined: Nov. 2007

(Permalink) Posted: July 06 2008,05:23   

You don't know my position? That's pathetic, you're completely ignorant and yet you let this thread continue, pathetic.

  
oldmanintheskydidntdoit



Posts: 4999
Joined: July 2006

(Permalink) Posted: July 06 2008,05:26   

Quote (Guts @ July 06 2008,05:23)
You don't know my position? That's pathetic, you're completely ignorant and yet you let this thread continue, pathetic.

No, what's pathetic is that you think a debate can happen without the proponents setting out their position at the start.

Oddly people like you have been known to change their positions when counter-evidence comes up.

It's simply a matter of trust. I don't. Trust you. Therefore, at the start all the cards are on the table.

It's perhaps not surprising that you've gone from "Debate me anywhere, any time" to "oh, you've said something I don't like so I'm taking my ball and going home".

My conclusion? You are incapable of defending your position rationally. You sir, are a blowhard.

And it only took 3 posts to get there!

How embarrassing! Do you have an edit button to go back and clean up your mess?

--------------
I also mentioned that He'd have to give me a thorough explanation as to *why* I must "eat human babies".
FTK

if there are even critical flaws in Gaugerís work, the evo mat narrative cannot stand
Gordon Mullings

  
dnmlthr



Posts: 565
Joined: Mar. 2008

(Permalink) Posted: July 06 2008,05:28   

Quote (Guts @ July 06 2008,11:23)
You don't know my position? That's pathetic, you're completely ignorant and yet you let this thread continue, pathetic.

What's wrong with making sure your position is not misrepresented? Shouldn't take long.

--------------
Guess what? I don't give a flying f*ck how "science works" - Ftk

  
Guts



Posts: 226
Joined: Nov. 2007

(Permalink) Posted: July 06 2008,05:28   

It seems to me that you are completely ignorant. You automatically assumed from the start that my position was wrong. But what position was that? The one you made up in your head? You don't even know my position? This thread is longer than most in this forum, it's pathetic to think you don't even know my position. What a waste of brain cells you are.

  
Guts



Posts: 226
Joined: Nov. 2007

(Permalink) Posted: July 06 2008,05:29   

Quote (dnmlthr @ July 06 2008,05:28)
Quote (Guts @ July 06 2008,11:23)
You don't know my position? That's pathetic, you're completely ignorant and yet you let this thread continue, pathetic.

What's wrong with making sure your position is not misrepresented? Shouldn't take long.

you guys are the masters of misrepresentation. I've written many blogs , why not come at me from that stand point, unless you're afraid.

  
Alan Fox



Posts: 1365
Joined: Aug. 2005

(Permalink) Posted: July 06 2008,05:29   

Quote
You don't know my position? That's pathetic,


Your position is pathetic?

Nevertheless, we would like to see you take on oldman. I am curious to discover what the well-dressed emperor is wearing this summer.

  
Guts



Posts: 226
Joined: Nov. 2007

(Permalink) Posted: July 06 2008,05:30   

Quote (Alan Fox @ July 06 2008,05:29)
Quote
You don't know my position? That's pathetic,


Your position is pathetic?

Nevertheless, we would like to see you take on oldman. I am curious to discover what the well-dressed emperor is wearing this summer.

No you're post is pathetic.

  
Guts



Posts: 226
Joined: Nov. 2007

(Permalink) Posted: July 06 2008,05:32   

"your" damn this board sucks.

  
dnmlthr



Posts: 565
Joined: Mar. 2008

(Permalink) Posted: July 06 2008,05:33   

Quote (Guts @ July 06 2008,11:30)
Quote (Alan Fox @ July 06 2008,05:29)
Quote
You don't know my position? That's pathetic,


Your position is pathetic?

Nevertheless, we would like to see you take on oldman. I am curious to discover what the well-dressed emperor is wearing this summer.

No you're post is pathetic.

Are you going to do any actual debating (the points brought forth by oldman seem like a good starting point) or are you going to do the internet tough guy routine in perpetuity?

--------------
Guess what? I don't give a flying f*ck how "science works" - Ftk

  
oldmanintheskydidntdoit



Posts: 4999
Joined: July 2006

(Permalink) Posted: July 06 2008,05:34   

Edited the post upstream by accident, here it is
Please state:


A) The essence of your position

B) The single best piece of physical evidence for your position

C) A prediction that can be checked experientially that will
provide support for your position that will result in a different answer from the "standard" position.

----------------------

A) The diversity of biological life we see around us did not require any "telic" or supernatural intervention to come into being and can can be explained either by known processes or unknown, but not supernatural, processes. In addition, there was no "front loading".

B) I really like the sequence of horse fossils, but pick anything from http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/faq-transitional.html it's all the same. †
Quote
Did God create Hyracotherium, then kill off Hyracotherium and create some Hyracotherium-Orohippus intermediates, then kill off the intermediates and create Orohippus, then kill off Orohippus and create Epihippus, then allow Epihippus to "microevolve" into Duchesnehippus, then kill off Duchesnehippus and create Mesohippus, then create some Mesohippus-Miohippus intermediates, then create Miohippus, then kill off Mesohippus, etc.....each species coincidentally similar to the species that came just before and came just after?

http://chem.tufts.edu/science/evolution/HorseEvolution.htm

C) Obviously this is the key here Guts, can you make such a prediction? Or is "DNA is complex" it?

--------------
I also mentioned that He'd have to give me a thorough explanation as to *why* I must "eat human babies".
FTK

if there are even critical flaws in Gaugerís work, the evo mat narrative cannot stand
Gordon Mullings

  
Guts



Posts: 226
Joined: Nov. 2007

(Permalink) Posted: July 06 2008,05:35   

Quote (dnmlthr @ July 06 2008,05:33)
Quote (Guts @ July 06 2008,11:30)
Quote (Alan Fox @ July 06 2008,05:29)
 
Quote
You don't know my position? That's pathetic,


Your position is pathetic?

Nevertheless, we would like to see you take on oldman. I am curious to discover what the well-dressed emperor is wearing this summer.

No you're post is pathetic.

Are you going to do any actual debating (the points brought forth by oldman seem like a good starting point) or are you going to do the internet tough guy routine in perpetuity?

I'm going to show you that you are weak in terms of intellectual debate. And make no mistake, you are weak.

  
  3492 replies since Sep. 22 2007,13:50 < Next Oldest | Next Newest >  

Pages: (117) < ... 8 9 10 11 12 [13] 14 15 16 17 18 ... >   


Track this topic Email this topic Print this topic

[ Read the Board Rules ] | [Useful Links] | [Evolving Designs]