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carlsonjok



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(Permalink) Posted: July 11 2010,14:00   

Quote (Reciprocating Bill @ July 11 2010,09:08)
I count 31 bannings in the last year.

32.  You can add to the list:

efren ts

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J-Dog



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(Permalink) Posted: July 11 2010,17:07   

Quote (carlsonjok @ July 11 2010,14:00)
Quote (Reciprocating Bill @ July 11 2010,09:08)
I count 31 bannings in the last year.

32.  You can add to the list:

efren ts

33.  You forgot about the short time when barry tried to stop Jack Inhoffe...  or do Barry's life style decisions and/pr puppets get a pass?


[QUOTE]Barry A has had enough JackInHofe:
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JackInhofe is no longer with us.

- From the very tasteless Is this Darwin's legacy thread. Jack's comment is nowhere to be seen - if it did appear did anyone catch it?

Jack had the temerity to call out Andrew Sibley for being a racist bastard, and then accused Sibley of drinking from the sour Ben Stein kool-aid.

I guess Andrew couldn't handle the truth and had to go whine to Barry. Pussy.

http://www.uncommondescent.com/intelli....omments

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Gullibility is not a virtue - Quidam on Dembski's belief in the Bible Code Faith Healers & ID 7/08

UD is an Unnatural Douchemagnet. - richardthughes 7/11

  
Zachriel



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(Permalink) Posted: July 12 2010,12:14   

Quote (Zachriel @ July 11 2010,09:03)
     
Quote (Alan Fox @ July 11 2010,04:24)
Anyone care to disagree with Rich on his judgement?

Zachriel's reply is currently in moderation.


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Rich: The bannings have not been for disagreeing with ID, or expressing skepticism about ID.

Zachriel #21311: That is incorrect. Zachriel has been banned multiple times, not a single one of which was due to untoward behavior, but for on-topic disagreements. This comment resulted in a silent bannination, and a purge of many previous posts.


Unfortunately, the link to "This comment" doesn't work. Biologos dropped the semicolons in the URL.

http://tinyurl.com/38yczcc

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Seversky



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(Permalink) Posted: July 12 2010,22:58   

Quote (Alan Fox @ July 11 2010,04:24)
Recently I've been reading (and occasionally commenting) atBiologos blog. In response to my remarking that UD moderation  is arbitrary and biased, this comment by:

 Rich - #21297
July 11th 2010

appeared!

 
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I did a little research into your claims about bannings at UC.

In the last month, only two or three people were banned.  So much for your daily bannings.

In the last year, roughly fifteen to twenty people were banned.  That’s nowhere near daily.

In many cases, these bannings were re-bannings, i.e., cases where a person had been banned, then was forgiven, then re-offended and was banned again, or cases where, once banned, the person sneaked back on under a new pseudonym and was banned under the new pseudonym.  In other words, the number of *people* banned is fewer than the total number of bannings, which was very small.

The bannings have not been for disagreeing with ID, or expressing skepticism about ID.  Otherwise, Francis Beckwith, Allen MacNeill and many others would have been banned.  The bannings have been for offensive behavior of one kind or another.  Seversky and Nakashima know why they were banned.  It wasn’t for offering rational arguments against irreducible complexity.

So probably one person per month has been banned from UD over the past year.  This on a web site that posts thousands of comments monthly.  Your case is hereby thrown out of court.


Anyone care to disagree with Rich on his judgement?

Forgive me for stating the obvious but Rich is full of it.

Although I can guess why, in my case  there was neither warning of nor reason given for the ban.  My posts simply stopped appearing.

As I have stated before, they are fully entitled to ban whomsoever they like but it makes Rich's - admittedly tongue-in-cheek - reference to being "thrown out of court" somewhat ironic; I was neither informed of the charges against me nor given the opportunity to confront my accusers and present the case for the defense.  

So much for UD's sense of justice (hi, Clive).

  
dvunkannon



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(Permalink) Posted: July 15 2010,07:29   

Quote (Seversky @ July 12 2010,23:58)
Quote (Alan Fox @ July 11 2010,04:24)
Recently I've been reading (and occasionally commenting) atBiologos blog. In response to my remarking that UD moderation  is arbitrary and biased, this comment by:

 Rich - #21297
July 11th 2010

appeared!

 
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I did a little research into your claims about bannings at UC.

In the last month, only two or three people were banned.  So much for your daily bannings.

In the last year, roughly fifteen to twenty people were banned.  That’s nowhere near daily.

In many cases, these bannings were re-bannings, i.e., cases where a person had been banned, then was forgiven, then re-offended and was banned again, or cases where, once banned, the person sneaked back on under a new pseudonym and was banned under the new pseudonym.  In other words, the number of *people* banned is fewer than the total number of bannings, which was very small.

The bannings have not been for disagreeing with ID, or expressing skepticism about ID.  Otherwise, Francis Beckwith, Allen MacNeill and many others would have been banned.  The bannings have been for offensive behavior of one kind or another.  Seversky and Nakashima know why they were banned.  It wasn’t for offering rational arguments against irreducible complexity.

So probably one person per month has been banned from UD over the past year.  This on a web site that posts thousands of comments monthly.  Your case is hereby thrown out of court.


Anyone care to disagree with Rich on his judgement?

Forgive me for stating the obvious but Rich is full of it.

Although I can guess why, in my case  there was neither warning of nor reason given for the ban.  My posts simply stopped appearing.

As I have stated before, they are fully entitled to ban whomsoever they like but it makes Rich's - admittedly tongue-in-cheek - reference to being "thrown out of court" somewhat ironic; I was neither informed of the charges against me nor given the opportunity to confront my accusers and present the case for the defense.  

So much for UD's sense of justice (hi, Clive).

Thanks for the heads up, I've responded to Rich as well.

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Kattarina98



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(Permalink) Posted: July 15 2010,08:04   

There is this infamous OP about "Junk Religion" concocted by Cornelius Hunter http://tinyurl.com/38fmg3v

Three posts refer to a comment by Hornspiel - who must have been messily devoured by the God of the Banhammer. Did anyone read it before it disappeared?

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Barry Arrington is a bitch.

  
Reciprocating Bill



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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 14 2010,22:33   

Barry Arrington:
     
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As a general rule, so long as your comment is not defamatory profane, or a vicious personal attack, you can say pretty much what you want.

But Barry Arrington:

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Barry Arrington
08/08/2010
11:50 pm

veilsofmaya continues to erect strawmen and refues to address ID as it is instead of as he distorts it. It is useless to argue with a person who refuses to see reason.

And dog mites ban.

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Myth: Something that never was true, and always will be.

"The truth will set you free. But not until it is finished with you."
- David Foster Wallace

"Here’s a clue. Snarky banalities are not a substitute for saying something intelligent. Write that down."
- Barry Arrington

  
Turncoat



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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 18 2010,22:23   

All of my UD identities I can remember:

  1. Tom English
  2. Thom English
  3. Thomas English
  4. T M English
  5. austin english
  6. Turner Coates
  7. Cloud of Unknowing
  8. Semiotic 007
  9. Liz Lizard
 10. Sal Gal
 11. Mystic
 12. Oatmeal Stout
 13. Atticus Finch
 14. CEC09
 15. Hamlet
 16. Sooner Emeritus

Rumination here.

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I never give them hell. I just tell the truth about them, and they think it's hell. — Harry S Truman

  
J-Dog



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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 19 2010,09:20   

Quote (Turncoat @ Aug. 18 2010,22:23)
All of my UD identities I can remember:

  1. Tom English
  2. Thom English
  3. Thomas English
  4. T M English
  5. austin english
  6. Turner Coates
  7. Cloud of Unknowing
  8. Semiotic 007
  9. Liz Lizard
 10. Sal Gal
 11. Mystic
 12. Oatmeal Stout
 13. Atticus Finch
 14. CEC09
 15. Hamlet
 16. Sooner Emeritus

Rumination here.

I just posted on your blog as Gary Larson - my first UD sock - mainly to say thanks for the laughs and pointing out the inconsistencies and errors at UD.

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Come on Tough Guy, do the little dance of ID impotence you do so well. - Louis to Joe G 2/10

Gullibility is not a virtue - Quidam on Dembski's belief in the Bible Code Faith Healers & ID 7/08

UD is an Unnatural Douchemagnet. - richardthughes 7/11

  
dvunkannon



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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 19 2010,10:54   

Quote (Turncoat @ Aug. 18 2010,23:23)
All of my UD identities I can remember:

  1. Tom English
  2. Thom English
  3. Thomas English
  4. T M English
  5. austin english
  6. Turner Coates
  7. Cloud of Unknowing
  8. Semiotic 007
  9. Liz Lizard
 10. Sal Gal
 11. Mystic
 12. Oatmeal Stout
 13. Atticus Finch
 14. CEC09
 15. Hamlet
 16. Sooner Emeritus

Rumination here.

I've left you a comment as well. Thanks for trying to make a difference.

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I’m referring to evolution, not changes in allele frequencies. - Cornelius Hunter
I’m not an evolutionist, I’m a change in allele frequentist! - Nakashima

  
Zachriel



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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 19 2010,12:12   

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markf: Yes I am Mark Frank. For some reason my old ID stopped working and I had to change.

For some reason ...

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Kattarina98



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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 23 2010,08:19   



Now will Clive allow € 20 to go to those evilutionists? Or will his urge to banninate for Jesus be insurmountable?

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Barry Arrington is a bitch.

  
Kattarina98



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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 28 2010,04:04   

Uh-oh! Clive has kept Petrushka's comments in moderation for quite some time, some of them for twelve hours.
And I wonder if this is a veiled threat:
 
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You quoted what I wrote only in part and then changed the subject ... I’ve noticed you change the subject quite often.


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Barry Arrington is a bitch.

  
oldmanintheskydidntdoit



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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 28 2010,04:49   

wrong thread.

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I also mentioned that He'd have to give me a thorough explanation as to *why* I must "eat human babies".
FTK

if there are even critical flaws in Gauger’s work, the evo mat narrative cannot stand
Gordon Mullings

  
Kattarina98



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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 04 2010,13:14   

Hey Clive, you know what you did when you banned DNYjock, don't you? Keep banning posters if you want to support real science.

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Barry Arrington is a bitch.

  
Kattarina98



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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 29 2010,15:37   

Moderation has driven markf to a desperate solution:
 
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One hobby was, until recently, commenting on some of the entrenched Intelligent Design blogs – particularly Uncommon Descent. This blog is notorious for arbitrary censoring and banning of contributors who do not support the party line.  For many years I led a charmed life but was recently placed into what those responsible for the blog call moderation. Moderation means that all your comments are inspected before they are published. This can result in a delay of 24 hours  and may well mean your comment is not be published at all.  I decided this made it no longer worthwhile to comment on UD. So instead I created this blog – hence the title: In Moderation.


He links to it at UD:
 
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However, instead of trying to show where your logic is wrong I thought I would take a moore (sic) positive approach. I am sorry it is so very long. This a shortened version. A fuller version is on my blog.


Will the link survive?

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Barry Arrington is a bitch.

  
Henry J



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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 30 2010,20:56   

Will the link survive? With the wieners that run that BB? It seems more likely that it will be out on its buns!

Henry

  
Reciprocating Bill



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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 25 2010,17:14   

Hidden Obliviation remains the bannitool of choice at UD:

Quote (Richardthughes @ Oct. 25 2010,10:30)
   
Quote (Richardthughes @ Oct. 25 2010,09:18)
Tee Hee

http://www.uncommondescent.com/evoluti....-366464



     
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5

jurassicmac

10/25/2010

8:35 am
Great article. I pity those who continue with the pointless acts of ‘investigation.’ They could avoid wasting so much time on that fruitless ‘research’ if only they knew that the whole process has already been explained: God did it.

Maybe someday they’ll see the light and give up this relentless pursuit of ‘knowledge.’


Finally, a mechnaism!

And then.... it was gone.


Paging R. Bill to the banninations thread. (No, I wasn't DurrasicMac) - I wonder how many truefundies© have been expelled! due to nixplanitory false positives?


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Myth: Something that never was true, and always will be.

"The truth will set you free. But not until it is finished with you."
- David Foster Wallace

"Here’s a clue. Snarky banalities are not a substitute for saying something intelligent. Write that down."
- Barry Arrington

  
Kattarina98



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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 25 2010,18:14   

Quote (Reciprocating Bill @ Oct. 25 2010,17:14)
Hidden Obliviation remains the bannitool of choice at UD:

 
Quote (Richardthughes @ Oct. 25 2010,10:30)
       
Quote (Richardthughes @ Oct. 25 2010,09:18)
Tee Hee

http://www.uncommondescent.com/evoluti....-366464



         
Quote
5

jurassicmac

10/25/2010

8:35 am
Great article. I pity those who continue with the pointless acts of ‘investigation.’ They could avoid wasting so much time on that fruitless ‘research’ if only they knew that the whole process has already been explained: God did it.

Maybe someday they’ll see the light and give up this relentless pursuit of ‘knowledge.’


Finally, a mechnaism!

And then.... it was gone.


Paging R. Bill to the banninations thread. (No, I wasn't DurrasicMac) - I wonder how many truefundies© have been expelled! due to nixplanitory false positives?

Anyone out there claiming insurance payment?

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Barry Arrington is a bitch.

  
Kris



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 20 2011,21:53   

Quote (Wesley R. Elsberry @ Aug. 02 2007,22:38)
Springer:

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John Davison is no longer with us due to abusive personal emails sent to me by him.


This should go in the dictionary as an illustration of "hypocrisy".

Look who's talking about hypocrisy. You and your sycophants are the biggest hypocrites of all.

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The partisan, when he is engaged in a dispute, cares nothing about the rights of the question, but is anxious only to convince his hearers of his own assertions. Plato

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 20 2011,22:05   



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You're obviously illiterate as hell. Peach, bro.-FtK

Finding something hard to believe based on the evidence, is science.-JoeG

the odds of getting some loathsome taint are low-- Gordon E Mullings Manjack Heights Montserrat

I work on molecular systems with pathway charts and such.-Giggles

  
Richardthughes



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 20 2011,23:12   

Quote (Kris @ Jan. 20 2011,21:53)
Quote (Wesley R. Elsberry @ Aug. 02 2007,22:38)
Springer:

 
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John Davison is no longer with us due to abusive personal emails sent to me by him.


This should go in the dictionary as an illustration of "hypocrisy".

Look who's talking about hypocrisy. You and your sycophants are the biggest hypocrites of all.

Hi Kris. How are you? Cuppa tea?

I can tell you're confused by being able to post on any thread and that your posts go through automatically. Clearly we're not on par with such bastions of free speech as ENV, Telic thoughts, Uncommon Dissent, but we're working on it.

Would you agree that [total of banned people] / [total number of posters ] is a good indicator of how strict moderation / censorship is on a board?

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"Richardthughes, you magnificent bastard, I stand in awe of you..." : Arden Chatfield
"You magnificent bastard! " : Louis
"ATBC poster child", "I have to agree with Rich.." : DaveTard
"I bow to your superior skills" : deadman_932
"...it was Richardthughes making me lie in bed.." : Kristine

  
oldmanintheskydidntdoit



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 21 2011,03:04   

Quote (Richardthughes @ Jan. 20 2011,23:12)
Would you agree that [total of banned people] / [total number of posters ] is a good indicator of how strict moderation / censorship is on a board?

That's a question, and I suspect that people like Kris don't do "questions".

Questions might lead to thinking, which might lead to dancing.

And you know what dancing leads to!

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I also mentioned that He'd have to give me a thorough explanation as to *why* I must "eat human babies".
FTK

if there are even critical flaws in Gauger’s work, the evo mat narrative cannot stand
Gordon Mullings

  
Wesley R. Elsberry



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 21 2011,03:20   

Quote (Kris @ Jan. 20 2011,21:53)
Quote (Wesley R. Elsberry @ Aug. 02 2007,22:38)
Springer:

 
Quote

John Davison is no longer with us due to abusive personal emails sent to me by him.


This should go in the dictionary as an illustration of "hypocrisy".

Look who's talking about hypocrisy. You and your sycophants are the biggest hypocrites of all.

I've got an archive of my email. Included in it are several personal abusive emails from David "DaveScot" Springer. In other words, I made an empirical claim with evidence behind it.

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Wesley R. Elsberry



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 21 2011,08:51   

Another one:

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jimpithecus | January 21, 2011 7:37 AM | Reply | Edit

It’s gone!!! I left a comment last night on Uncommon Descent that contained no name-calling, no hateful references and no ad hominem attacks but simply disagreed with what she wrote and this morning, I find that the comment has become one with the snows of yesteryear. How can someone call themselves a journalist with any integrity and remove comments they don’t agree with? O’Leary wrote:

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   “And, by the way, when Evolution Sunday rolls around in 2011, all Christian Darwinists should pause to reflect on how much their faith owes to these people. (I mention this because I am knee-deep in these blessed dimes of Darwin, for some project I am stuck with.)”


Here is what I wrote:

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   Why on earth would my faith owe these people anything? My faith in Jesus and my acceptance of evolutionary biology doesn’t hinge on whether or not these people are atheists. These people were atheists long before they supported evolution. And evolution has been around a lot longer than they have.


Somehow that was too much for her to handle.



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 06 2011,03:24   

In case anyone is still following  silent banninations at UD, aiguy, who was tying the usual suspect in knots in this thread  (his last comment) reports elsewhere being put in perpetual moderation.  
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I posted a couple times over at uncommondescent, but apparently offended somebody and now I'm on banished to interminable "hold for moderation" purgatory.

  
Henry J



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 06 2011,18:43   

Let us remember that old adage - all things in moderation!

  
oldmanintheskydidntdoit



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 07 2011,13:04   

Quote (Alan Fox @ Feb. 06 2011,03:24)
In case anyone is still following  silent banninations at UD, aiguy, who was tying the usual suspect in knots in this thread  (his last comment) reports elsewhere being put in perpetual moderation.          
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I posted a couple times over at uncommondescent, but apparently offended somebody and now I'm on banished to interminable "hold for moderation" purgatory.

aiguy not only tied them up in knots but then proceeded to skewer the lot of em.

chunkdz:        
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The fact that the code of life is globally optimal (given plausible pre-biotic conditions), along with the fact that it hasn't changed significantly in 4 billion years (it's hard to improve upon a global optimum) tells us that the designer of life either got really lucky right off the bat or had learned how to design an optimal code. Evolution is not in the business of making a globally optimal anything.

I think you are looking at the problem as a designer rather than a forensic investigator. 4 billion years into the program we are looking for traces and clues, not hard examples of the designer in action. Or as Mike Gene says, "the faint echoes of teleology".


Yet only the other day  Gordon was arguing that cows could not have evolved. So hardly "the faint echoes of teleology".

This wiki page on Aurochs says the designer must have been fiddling round in the plains with them not very long ago at all. Like Gordon says
     
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Others might want to point out that the body plan involved is well beyond the FSCO/I threshold, so there is a serious question whether we have a mechanism per Darwinist evolutionary theory, that would substantiate that claim, much less observed evidence that would make it conclusive as “fact.”


Or is it still "just a cow"?

It's all so confusing! That's the thing about ID. You can study at one school but beware should you transfer just before the exams! Same answers written down, but you fail because you changed schools!

It's a shame that there's no central venue where they can all make their case, support with evidence and then all agree to get behind the party that makes the best case and follow that evidence to where it leads.

Oh, er. Um. Yes.

EDIT: Cross posted to here. http://www.antievolution.org/cgi-bin....y182728

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I also mentioned that He'd have to give me a thorough explanation as to *why* I must "eat human babies".
FTK

if there are even critical flaws in Gauger’s work, the evo mat narrative cannot stand
Gordon Mullings

  
didymos



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(Permalink) Posted: April 13 2011,18:22   

Bannination:
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Barry Arrington

04/13/2011

5:18 pm

Muramasa is no longer with us.


Well, of course. That's what you get for demonstrating intellectual honesty.

[crossposted to Uncommonly Dense thread]

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I wouldn't be bothered reading about the selfish gene because it has never been identified. -- Denyse O'Leary, professional moron
Again "how much". I don't think that's a good way to be quantitative.-- gpuccio

  
Hermagoras



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(Permalink) Posted: April 14 2011,12:19   

Don't think the announcement of Muramasa's banning suggests anything like honesty.  I happen to know that QuiteID has been banned without any notice, leaving folks at UD to believe that QID has run away.  

Dear Clive, Dear Barry: that little troll Joseph frequently uses the term "intellectual coward."  In cases like this, it applies to you.

Man up and let Quite ID back in the game, or have the decency to explain why.

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"I am not currently proving that objective morality is true. I did that a long time ago and you missed it." -- StephenB

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