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Tom Ames



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 24 2010,12:00   

Place your wagers here.

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Albatrossity2



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 24 2010,12:06   

Well, due to the economy the refrigerator repair biz might be pretty frantic (nobody's buying new appliances), so I'm betting that he won't last longer than another 24 hours or so.

Of course, he could be lying about that refrigerator repair business too...

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Tom Ames



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 24 2010,12:16   

Oh my god, I have to apologize to Joe G.!

Right there on p. 452 of the Kerry Bloom review he pointed us to, it says that Centrioles are actually little turbines, with a citation to Jonathan Wells!

Wow, Joe, what can I say? I guess you really must have read and understood all those references you gave us from the January 28, 2010 edition of Nature. And they indeed support ID, completely repudiating Darwinism, just as you claimed they do. My profoundest apologies for ever doubting you.

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Louis



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 24 2010,13:08   

How long can his tardgasm go on? Until the pointless waste of his daddy's semen ups and dies.

Still, think happy thoughts, eh.

Louis

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 24 2010,13:20   

Don't forget, Joe G. is multiply tardgasmic.  This could go on for a very long time.

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 24 2010,13:41   

Joe will go until:
1.) The meds take effect
2.) The NEW meds take effect
3.) He comes down off what he is on
4.) Someone knocks some sense into that waste of cells inside his cranium
5.) The cops break down his door and take him away
6.) All of the above

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 24 2010,13:42   

He am teh famous:

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0302914/

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Alternate Names:Joe 'Little Joe' Gallien | Little Joe Gallien


ETA:

Piccy goodness!

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 24 2010,13:47   

Quote (Richardthughes @ Feb. 24 2010,13:42)
He am teh famous:

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0302914/

 
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Alternate Names:Joe 'Little Joe' Gallien | Little Joe Gallien


ETA:

Piccy goodness!

Richard - followed your link...

Jesus H Christ - No wonder he's PO'd this week:

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STARmeter: Down 39% in popularity this week. See why on IMDbPro.Alternate Names:Joe 'Little Joe' Gallien | Little Joe Gallien


Maybe someone could post this picture of him:




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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 24 2010,14:30   

Crosspost:



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 24 2010,14:34   

Quote (keiths @ Feb. 24 2010,14:20)
Don't forget, Joe G. is multiply tardgasmic.  This could go on for a very long time.

I think his tardrection lasted more than 4 hours.  Perhaps he's gone to seek medical advice.

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 24 2010,14:50   

Quote (ppb @ Feb. 24 2010,19:34)
Quote (keiths @ Feb. 24 2010,14:20)
Don't forget, Joe G. is multiply tardgasmic.  This could go on for a very long time.

I think his tardrection lasted more than 4 hours.  Perhaps he's gone to seek medical advice.

Tardenafil citrate overdose you suspect, Doctor?

Louis

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 24 2010,15:02   

Quote (Louis @ Feb. 25 2010,09:50)
Tardenafil citrate overdose you suspect, Doctor?

Either that or Tardalafil.

ETA - erm, sorry, medicines info is what I do for a day job

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 24 2010,15:27   

100 quatloos he watches this thread and pops in with a tard-a-gram right after any wagered time limit.

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 24 2010,15:37   

Quote (Richardthughes @ Feb. 24 2010,14:30)
Crosspost:


Not be critical of otherwise fine work, but shouldn't you have included "accumulation of genetic accidents?"

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 24 2010,15:43   

Quote (carlsonjok @ Feb. 24 2010,15:37)
Quote (Richardthughes @ Feb. 24 2010,14:30)
Crosspost:


Not be critical of otherwise fine work, but shouldn't you have included "accumulation of genetic accidents?"

Yes.  :(

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 24 2010,16:04   

Quote (keiths @ Feb. 24 2010,13:20)
Don't forget, Joe G. is multiply tardgasmic.  This could go on for a very long time.

Right, as long as his coprolalia rewards him with -gasms it will continue. Just boring to watch.

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 24 2010,16:57   

A Joe G-spot tornado!

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 24 2010,17:02   

Quote (Richardthughes @ Feb. 24 2010,13:43)
Quote (carlsonjok @ Feb. 24 2010,15:37)
 
Quote (Richardthughes @ Feb. 24 2010,14:30)
Crosspost:


Not be critical of otherwise fine work, but shouldn't you have included "accumulation of genetic accidents?"

Yes.  :(

I think you need a panel for "ya see"

Also, I'm afraid you transposed the M and N in baraminology.

But maybe that was on purpose.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 24 2010,17:29   

Richard,

 You also forgot to add
"cursing anyone who asks a question"
"cursing anyone who points to a fallacy"
"cursing anyone who counters the arguement"
"cursing anyone... well... anyone"

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 24 2010,17:56   

Quote (Ptaylor @ Feb. 24 2010,13:02)
Quote (Louis @ Feb. 25 2010,09:50)
Tardenafil citrate overdose you suspect, Doctor?

Either that or Tardalafil.

ETA - erm, sorry, medicines info is what I do for a day job

Really? Can you explain pharmaceutical nomenclature? Or do they just make up cool sounding names? I mean the generic names, not brand names.

That'd be a far more interesting read than the pissing contest with GI Joe.

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 24 2010,19:55   

Quote (fnxtr @ Feb. 24 2010,18:56)
That'd be a far more interesting read than the pissing contest with GI Joe.

Howabout a pissing ON Joe G contest?

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 24 2010,20:49   

Quote (Reciprocating Bill @ Feb. 24 2010,19:55)
Quote (fnxtr @ Feb. 24 2010,18:56)
That'd be a far more interesting read than the pissing contest with GI Joe.

Howabout a pissing ON Joe G contest?

Only from the roof.  I'm not getting my stuff anywhere close to him...

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 24 2010,20:59   

Quote (OgreMkV @ Feb. 24 2010,21:49)
Quote (Reciprocating Bill @ Feb. 24 2010,19:55)
Quote (fnxtr @ Feb. 24 2010,18:56)
That'd be a far more interesting read than the pissing contest with GI Joe.

Howabout a pissing ON Joe G contest?

Only from the roof.  I'm not getting my stuff anywhere close to him...

I can hear him now:

"Look...another talking snake!"

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 24 2010,21:41   

If y'all hadn't said Paul Nelson was the only YEC willing to come out and play, this wouldn't have happened. I don't think the timing was accidental.

IOW - design.

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 24 2010,22:59   

Sadly, I think he's spent.

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 24 2010,23:20   

where can one witness such a phantasmagoric display? if it elicited a separate thread like this, it must be beyond the usual Joe G "cock-of-the-walk".

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 24 2010,23:22   

Quote (Richardthughes @ Feb. 24 2010,22:59)
Sadly, I think he's spent.

Is that why my monitor is blurry?  I didn't know you could send that over the internets, even if it is a series of tubes.

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 24 2010,23:45   

Quote (Richardthughes @ Feb. 24 2010,20:59)
Sadly, I think he's spent.

Spent?

I think he is badly in debt!

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 25 2010,03:30   

Quote (fnxtr @ Feb. 24 2010,22:56)
Quote (Ptaylor @ Feb. 24 2010,13:02)
Quote (Louis @ Feb. 25 2010,09:50)
Tardenafil citrate overdose you suspect, Doctor?

Either that or Tardalafil.

ETA - erm, sorry, medicines info is what I do for a day job

Really? Can you explain pharmaceutical nomenclature? Or do they just make up cool sounding names? I mean the generic names, not brand names.

That'd be a far more interesting read than the pissing contest with GI Joe.

The only drug I've been involved with that's made it to market was named in a cross department lottery. Everyone interested sent in a suggestion and there was a prize if your name was chosen (a bottle of something). However, there are name generating methods (these were a fallback in the case I mention) because they can't use words that actually mean anything in most languages. Unfortunately I don't know precisely how the generators work, I have enough to worry about making the damn things/getting them to work etc. Usually they're referred to as "that fucking COX2-inhibitor" or something similar. ;-)

Louis

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 25 2010,08:19   

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"that fucking COX2-inhibitor"


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"that fucking COX2-inhibitor"


Quote (Louis @ Feb. 25 2010,03:30)
Unfortunately I don't know precisely how the generators work, I have enough to worry about making the damn things/getting them to work etc. Usually they're referred to as "that fucking COX2-inhibitor" or something similar. ;-)

Louis

Marketing gold, my friend.  Marketing gold...

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 25 2010,08:33   

Quote (J-Dog @ Feb. 25 2010,09:19)
 
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"that fucking COX2-inhibitor"


   
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"that fucking COX2-inhibitor"


   
Quote (Louis @ Feb. 25 2010,03:30)
Unfortunately I don't know precisely how the generators work, I have enough to worry about making the damn things/getting them to work etc. Usually they're referred to as "that fucking COX2-inhibitor" or something similar. ;-)

Louis

Marketing gold, my friend.  Marketing gold...

"Ask your doctor about that fucking COX2-inhibitor"

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 25 2010,09:50   

Quote (ppb @ Feb. 25 2010,08:33)
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"that fucking COX2-inhibitor"


   
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"that fucking COX2-inhibitor"


   
Quote (Louis @ Feb. 25 2010,03:30)
Unfortunately I don't know precisely how the generators work, I have enough to worry about making the damn things/getting them to work etc. Usually they're referred to as "that fucking COX2-inhibitor" or something similar. ;-)

Louis

Marketing gold, my friend.  Marketing gold...

"Ask your doctor about that fucking COX2-inhibitor"

A "fucking COX2 inhibitor" sounds like a mother-in-law with two daughters.

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 25 2010,10:31   

I mentioned this marketing idea to one of the senior people in the marketing dept.

My P45*. I has it.

Louis

*P45 = UK equivalent of a pink slip. Not this kind of pink slip:



Sadly.

ETA: The lady in the photo is the senior person in marketing I mentioned it to. What a coinkydink!

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 25 2010,10:48   

Geez. Only one thought crosses my mind when I see a woman like that.

"Sister, go home and eat something."

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 25 2010,11:07   

Quote (fnxtr @ Feb. 25 2010,10:48)
Geez. Only one thought crosses my mind when I see a woman like that.

"Sister, go home and eat something."

*Insert "I've got something for her to eat" joke here*





(I'm thinking Charlston Chews)

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 25 2010,11:12   

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*Insert "I've got something for her to eat" joke here*


*Insert "She needs a meal, not a snack!" witty retort here.*


Ba-dum-CHING!

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 25 2010,11:19   

Quote (Doc Bill @ Feb. 25 2010,11:12)
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*Insert "I've got something for her to eat" joke here*


*Insert "She needs a meal, not a snack!" witty retort here.*


Ba-dum-CHING!

*insert "it looked so much bigger when your mother was eating it" retort, here*

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 25 2010,11:26   

Quote (fnxtr @ Feb. 25 2010,15:48)
Geez. Only one thought crosses my mind when I see a woman like that.

"Sister, go home and eat something."

As Billy Connelly said regarding underweight models

"Go on darlin', have a cheeseburger, you'll be amazed how happy it makes you!"

Good advice.

Louis

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 25 2010,19:04   

Quote (Tom Ames @ Feb. 24 2010,12:16)
Oh my god, I have to apologize to Joe G.!

Right there on p. 452 of the Kerry Bloom review he pointed us to, it says that Centrioles are actually little turbines, with a citation to Jonathan Wells!

Wow, Joe, what can I say? I guess you really must have read and understood all those references you gave us from the January 28, 2010 edition of Nature. And they indeed support ID, completely repudiating Darwinism, just as you claimed they do. My profoundest apologies for ever doubting you.

Gee asshole- what is your evidence that blind undirected processes can account for the specified complexity observed in living organisms?

Can you even muster a testable hypothesis or is drooling and stroking all you are good for?

IOW butt-plug what do you have besides the refusal to allow the design inference no matter what?

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 25 2010,19:09   

What specified complexity would that be Joe?

Where are the specifications for any living organism?

I'll bet you typed this latest rant with one hand again, right?   ;)

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 25 2010,19:14   

Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Feb. 25 2010,19:09)
What specified complexity would that be Joe?

Where are the specifications for any living organism?

I'll bet you typed this latest rant with one hand again, right?   ;)

I bet you mouths the words as you ype you freakin' retard.

Try reading a little Lelie Orgel and then buy a fucking vowel you moronic retard.

The specified complexity that your position cannot account for.

You assholes require a load of intelligent intervention just to get nucleotides.

And even the RNAs that are synthesized are only capable of catalyzing ione little bond.

IOW assface all you have is the refusal to allow the design inference.

All you can do is ask smirky questions because in reality you are an imbecile.

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 25 2010,19:16   

That's nice Joe, but where are the specifications for any living organism?

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 25 2010,19:17   

Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Feb. 25 2010,19:16)
That's nice Joe, but where are the specifications for any living organism?

Look in any biology textbook you moron.

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 25 2010,19:20   

Quote (Joe G @ Feb. 25 2010,19:17)
Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Feb. 25 2010,19:16)
That's nice Joe, but where are the specifications for any living organism?

Look in any biology textbook you moron.

OK, so you can't provide any specification, or provide the calculated value of 'CSI' for any biological object.

How can complexity be specified when there isn't any specification?

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 25 2010,19:21   

Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Feb. 25 2010,19:16)
That's nice Joe, but where are the specifications for any living organism?

For example check out the peer-reviewed paper pertaining to the minimal complexity of a minimal bacteria.- minimal genome

You can also read about it here:

peering into the black box

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 25 2010,19:22   

Quote (Joe G @ Feb. 25 2010,20:17)
Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Feb. 25 2010,19:16)
That's nice Joe, but where are the specifications for any living organism?

Look in any biology textbook you moron.

I'd bet even your car is a Dodge.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 25 2010,19:22   

Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Feb. 25 2010,19:20)
Quote (Joe G @ Feb. 25 2010,19:17)
 
Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Feb. 25 2010,19:16)
That's nice Joe, but where are the specifications for any living organism?

Look in any biology textbook you moron.

OK, so you can't provide any specification, or provide the calculated value of 'CSI' for any biological object.

How can complexity be specified when there isn't any specification?

So you refuse to look in a biology textbook and you think your ignorance refutes what I said.

You are an intellectual coward.

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 25 2010,19:23   

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That's nice Joe, but where are the specifications for any living organism?

Look in any biology textbook you moron.

I'd bet even your car is a Dodge.

Grand National- 1987 black on black

Eat your freakin' heart out...

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 25 2010,19:24   

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That's nice Joe, but where are the specifications for any living organism?

Look in any biology textbook you moron.

I'd bet even your car is a Dodge.

Grand National- 1987 black on black

Eat your freakin' heart out...

sure it is.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 25 2010,19:28   

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That's nice Joe, but where are the specifications for any living organism?

Look in any biology textbook you moron.

I'd bet even your car is a Dodge.

Grand National- 1987 black on black

Eat your freakin' heart out...

sure it is.

Jealousy- Oh how I love your jealousy...

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 25 2010,19:29   

Textbooks don't have any before-the-fact specifications Joe.  They have descriptions of the makeup of proteins that were determined by after-the-fact observations.

You need to show where the specifications were listed first, and then confirmed by observation.  Otherwise you're just doing the 'sharpshooter's fallacy' - shooting an arrow anywhere into the side of the barn, then drawing the target around it afterward and claiming a bulls-eye.

Where are the before-the-fact specifications Joe?

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 25 2010,19:38   

Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Feb. 25 2010,19:29)
Textbooks don't have any before-the-fact specifications Joe.  They have descriptions of the makeup of proteins that were determined by after-the-fact observations.

You need to show where the specifications were listed first, and then confirmed by observation.  Otherwise you're just doing the 'sharpshooter's fallacy' - shooting an arrow anywhere into the side of the barn, then drawing the target around it afterward and claiming a bulls-eye.

Where are the before-the-fact specifications Joe?

Umm the theory of evolution is based on after-the-fact observation.

Science is an after-the-fact enterprise- you have to make an observation and THEN you formulate a hypothesis- after-the-fact.

But anyway Dr Behe discusses this in "Darwin's Black Box":

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"Our ability to be confident of the design of the cilium or intracellular transport rests on the same principles to be confident of the design of anything: the ordering of separate components to achieve an identifiable function that depends sharply on the components.”


That said what does your position have asshole?

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 25 2010,19:50   

Quote (Joe G @ Feb. 25 2010,19:38)
     
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Textbooks don't have any before-the-fact specifications Joe.  They have descriptions of the makeup of proteins that were determined by after-the-fact observations.

You need to show where the specifications were listed first, and then confirmed by observation.  Otherwise you're just doing the 'sharpshooter's fallacy' - shooting an arrow anywhere into the side of the barn, then drawing the target around it afterward and claiming a bulls-eye.

Where are the before-the-fact specifications Joe?

Umm the theory of evolution is based on after-the-fact observation.

Science is an after-the-fact enterprise- you have to make an observation and THEN you formulate a hypothesis- after-the-fact.

ToE doesn't claim anything was built to a pre-existing specification either.

How can you tell if something is designed or not designed when your only criteria is "it looks like what it looks like"?

   
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But anyway Dr Behe discusses this in "Darwin's Black Box":

     
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"Our ability to be confident of the design of the cilium or intracellular transport rests on the same principles to be confident of the design of anything: the ordering of separate components to achieve an identifiable function that depends sharply on the components.”


That said what does your position have asshole?

You mean Behe claims it, but forgot to support his claims.

BTW, would that be the same Behe who testified that ID has as much scientific validity as astrology?  The same one who's an even bigger laughingstock than Dembski?  That Behe?

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 25 2010,19:54   

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That's nice Joe, but where are the specifications for any living organism?

Look in any biology textbook you moron.

I'd bet even your car is a Dodge.

Grand National- 1987 black on black

Eat your freakin' heart out...

Why doesn't it surprise me that he drives a fuckin' Buick.  The only thing lamer would be an AMC.

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 25 2010,20:06   

Hey Joe, you do realize that it only takes 5 nucleotides to form a functional ribozyme that can catalyze other ribozymes and thus... everything.

5... that's it.

All Dembski's meaningless calculations are now well and truly useless.  They were useless before, but he still can't admit it.  

Tell me, Joe.  Have you ever done a calculation?  

So, when are you going to fill in the blanks of the 6th grade level lab report.  Shouldn't be too hard for a genius like you.

How about this Joe: Rank the following in specified complexity.

A) Homo sapien
B) Mycoplasma genitalium
C) Amoeba dubia

kthnx

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 25 2010,20:14   

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Tell me, Joe.  Have you ever done a calculation?  

He sure has!  Behold!

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 25 2010,20:24   

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That's nice Joe, but where are the specifications for any living organism?

Look in any biology textbook you moron.

I'd bet even your car is a Dodge.

Grand National- 1987 black on black

Eat your freakin' heart out...

Why doesn't it surprise me that he drives a fuckin' Buick.  The only thing lamer would be an AMC.

yeah it's a buick but it ain't no grand national.  bitch drives a regal.

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 25 2010,20:46   

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Tell me, Joe.  Have you ever done a calculation?  

He sure has!  Behold!

I don't believe you.

All I get in an error from the link.

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 25 2010,21:07   

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All I get in an error from the link.

I get a bunch of giberish from the link.  Oh, wait,. that's just Joe's O'Leary-like attempt at communicating.

SRSLY - link works fine for me.

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 25 2010,21:52   

hmmm... apparently the information content of the webpage was too much for my old PC to calculate... or something like that.

I still call BS on the calculation.


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A simple character count reveals 202 characters which translates into 1010 bits of information/ specified complexity..


Those are the only two numbers in the whole darn post.  There is no explanation of how 202 characters = 1010 bits.

The implication is that 5 bits = 1 character, but why?

Standard ASCII had 8 bits per character (including all numbers, punctuation, control functions, and a space).  

Because this is from an ID blog and there's really no chance that they understand these types of things, I'll quote from wiki

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A fair coin has an entropy of one bit. However, if the coin is not fair, then the uncertainty is lower (if asked to bet on the next outcome, we would bet preferentially on the most frequent result), and thus the Shannon entropy is lower. Mathematically, a coin flip is an example of a Bernoulli trial, and its entropy is given by the binary entropy function. A long string of repeating characters has an entropy rate of 0, since every character is predictable. The entropy rate of English text is between 1.0 and 1.5 bits per letter,[1] or as low as 0.6 to 1.3 bits per letter, according to estimates by Shannon based on human experiments.[2]
Wikipedia - Entropy (Information Theory)

So, Joe, please do explain how you arrived at your 'calculation'*.  Why you used the values that you did and what was the point of the exercise (other than showing off 3rd grade level math skills).


* I hesitate to call multiplying a 3 digit number by 5 a 'calculation'.  In the strictest sense of the word, it is a calculation, but it is so trivial that any reasonably competent 3rd grader could accomplish the same thing and with more explanation as to 'why' he/she performed the calculation.

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 25 2010,21:58   

So, if I read this straight, and with Joe G there's no straight, there is something called "specified complexity" but it's up to us, real scientists to come up with examples and definitions.

Is that right, Joe?

How about you, Joe, giving us a definition and example of "specified complexity" without telling us to go howl at the moon or something.

Better yet, if you can't provide the info ask you boyfriend to.  Either way it would move along the discussion.

thx

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 26 2010,04:25   

Sorry, but is our Internet Tough Guy reduced to "boasting" about his 23 year old car?

Wow....just wow.

I wonder if Joe has a mullet.

Louis

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 26 2010,05:59   

Quote (Louis @ Feb. 26 2010,05:25)
Sorry, but is our Internet Tough Guy reduced to "boasting" about his 23 year old car?

Wow....just wow.

I wonder if Joe has a mullet.

Louis

Oh, yes.  Yes, he does.

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 26 2010,07:04   

Here, a little somethin' for Our Favorite Wounded Vet.  You know, to thank him for his service:




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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 26 2010,08:37   

Quote (Louis @ Feb. 26 2010,05:25)
Sorry, but is our Internet Tough Guy reduced to "boasting" about his 23 year old car?

Wow....just wow.

I wonder if Joe has a mullet.

Louis

I suspect he didn't grasp the "Dodge" part, either.  :)

Despite his claims to drive a Dodge, as noted by others, the Grand National is a Buick which is NOT a Chrysler product.

Draw your own conclusions about his vehicle but I suspect it's a K-car and more of a dodge than he understands.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 26 2010,09:59   

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Tell me, Joe.  Have you ever done a calculation?  

He sure has!  Behold!

You guys remember Joe bragging about his security clearance and his basement laboratory stocked with all sorts of whiz-bang equipment?

Well, I have heard from a reliable source that he just took delivery of his brand new CSI calculator.



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 26 2010,10:07   

Quote (carlsonjok @ Feb. 26 2010,07:59)
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Tell me, Joe.  Have you ever done a calculation?  

He sure has!  Behold!

You guys remember Joe bragging about his security clearance and his basement laboratory stocked with all sorts of whiz-bang equipment?

Well, I have heard from a reliable source that he just took delivery of his brand new CSI calculator.


I still have trouble believing those things can actually bake shit.  I've even seen it, but I just don't want to accept it on some level.

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 26 2010,20:12   

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Tell me, Joe.  Have you ever done a calculation?  

He sure has!  Behold!

You guys remember Joe bragging about his security clearance and his basement laboratory stocked with all sorts of whiz-bang equipment?

Well, I have heard from a reliable source that he just took delivery of his brand new CSI calculator.


I still have trouble believing those things can actually bake shit.

Err - Why would you want to?

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 26 2010,21:03   

Now I know for sure that Joe G is full of it.

I remember the 1987 GN, and the GNX.

The GN didn't have a black interior.  It had gray faces on the seats, with an embroidered 6 with an arrow tip at the end of the 6.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 26 2010,21:10   

Why is there such a strong correlation between:

Creationism/Rednecks(southern and northern varieties)/fundamentalism/ autos that are fast in a straight line/cars that cannot corner/ cars parked in trees

GN and GNX's were worthless in corners.  They were fast in a straight line for their time, but there are many cars before and since those that are faster in a straight line.

Besides, TVR's and any Lotus's could wipe the asphalt with a GN.   Hell, the Elise can do it with about 100 less BHP (if my memory serves me right)

PS - even if my memory isn't right on the difference between the BHP difference between and Elise and a GN, the wiping the asphalt with the GNX still applies in the quarter mile

PPS - leaving the quarter mile for any sort of twisty bits, the Elise doesn't just wipe the asphalt with the remains of the GN, it scrapes it off of the Elises dainty tires

PPPS - Don't get me started on the comparison of a GN and an Exige...

PPPPS - stopping before I sound too much like GEM of TKI

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 26 2010,21:41   

Quote (Louis @ Feb. 25 2010,10:31)
I mentioned this marketing idea to one of the senior people in the marketing dept.

My P45*. I has it.

Louis

*P45 = UK equivalent of a pink slip. Not this kind of pink slip:



Sadly.

ETA: The lady in the photo is the senior person in marketing I mentioned it to. What a coinkydink!

Sorry, but this deserves to be on this page.  After having to look at ITGx2 and a dork with an Easy Bake.... shudder.

And I don't care what you guys think, I think she's lovely.

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 26 2010,21:59   

I drive a 1985 Toyota pickup truck, 2WD, 22R engine, 4 speed manual transmission. It was my work truck, and I did have the undercarriage armored with skid plates, and the front end was reinforced here and there with angle iron.

It has 117,777.7 original miles (when I parked it this afternoon).

I just replaced the original rear break pads yesterday. I replaced the original alternator last week. Working off-road, I have gone through dozens of tires. I have only got mired twice, one time because the truck I was following (4WD) stopped. I have never washed it. The roof of my camper shell has lichen growing on it.

What were we talking about?

Edited by Dr.GH on Feb. 26 2010,20:00

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 26 2010,22:12   

My oldest automotive child is a 1970 TR-6.

Probably a little over the 100K mark.

She is beautiful, dark blue, blue interior (one day I hope to change that), and knock off wire wheels.

She has the Michelin redlines.  They squee when cornering.  No power steering, and sometime soon will need work on the transmission (getting into 1st is sometimes stubborn, she needs a gentle but firm hand).  Of course, no A/C, no power windows, and a stiff clutch.  But she runs, and sounds like nothing else in the past 30 years.

She isn't practical, but she is mine, and a hell of a lot more interesting than the piddling Regal with a 6 cyl turbo.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 26 2010,22:15   

It is an automobile that requires you to get your hands dirty, bruised, and crushed at time.

Sort of like good science.

Something that Joe G with his Regal wouldn't know about.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 26 2010,22:24   

Our two ranch trucks are a 1951 Chevy with a 1959-235 passenger car engine that replaced the old 216 engine years ago.  When I first met my wife this was our only rig for about 6 years and of course no AC which  made for a warm ride in the 110 F days of summer.  It is also colonized with lichen and moss mostly on the outside.

The other is a 1986 Toyota one-ton 2wd with 242,000+ miles on the 22R motor and a 5 speed manual transmission.  Great trucks!

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 26 2010,22:28   

I was driving my truck the three blocks to the harbor this morning, and I had to stop at a traffic light (There are four in three freaking blocks). Ahead of me was a new Lamborghini.

The heat pouring off the engine created light distortion in a ~160 degree arc. The nitwit driver roared off a whole block to the next red light, while I arrived seconds later- still in second gear. I realized the Lamborghini had never left first gear.

That is why, in my town we only see new Lamborghinis. (About the same story with the Maserati, but they seem to last at least a year or two longer). We locals call them "penis substitutes."

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 26 2010,22:31   

I personally haven't owned a real truck.  My grandfather had several.

My favorite was a 1960's Chevy 1/2 ton. SWB, only had a two speed auto tranny.  Once again, no power anything, no A/C, but had a nice small block v8, and when he owned it it had two tone primer.  I used to drive it occasionally when I was in college.  It was great in rush hour traffic since folks thought you had no insurance.  They generally moved out of your way....

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 26 2010,22:34   

Quote (Acipenser @ Feb. 26 2010,20:24)
The other is a 1986 Toyota one-ton 2wd with 242,000+ miles on the 22R motor and a 5 speed manual transmission.  Great trucks!

My first Toy PU had a 5 speed transmission, and I really loved it. The first gear was so low that I could climb almost any hill. The 4 speed takes a more aggessive approach to climbing a hill, get in second and floor it.

Edited by Dr.GH on Feb. 26 2010,20:35

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 26 2010,22:38   

my grandfather also had a 1970 Buick Riviera.

When he first acquired it, it had been sitting up for about 15 years.  The exhaust pipes had rotted out, but being the redneck that I am I drove it while it was still getting civilized.  Before the pipes were fixed, it sounded like a WWII fighter landing when you were decelerating.

Wonderful car, but gone now after so many years and family issues.

There was also a 70's two door Plymouth Satellite.  Red, white vinyl top, 318(?), white vinyl interior.  Amazing under-rated hot rod.  Gone before I could drive.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 26 2010,22:42   

Quote (Louis @ Feb. 26 2010,02:25)
Sorry, but is our Internet Tough Guy reduced to "boasting" about his 23 year old car?

Wow....just wow.

...

Louis

Louis, The car/truck thing is more a US issue thingy.

There was an old cowboy joke that there was only one thing worth doing that you couldn't do riding a horse- taking a crap. (Yes, yes. I think I could, too. The trick would be to  ... never mind).*

We updated that for our trucks (and were far more comfortable).

* Edit to add: It couldn't work with an English saddle anyway.

Edited by Dr.GH on Feb. 26 2010,21:11

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 26 2010,22:47   

I don't think Louis is an automotive afficianado...

(whatever the spelling of that should be)

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 26 2010,22:50   

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I don't think Louis is an automotive afficianado...

(whatever the spelling of that should be)

http://www.antievolution.org/cgi-bin....61;st=0

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 26 2010,23:01   

aaawwww...RTH...

You remember me...

HOMO!!!!

11!!!!1111!!!! eleventy !!!!111!!!

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 26 2010,23:02   

the previous posting by DI was rather banal.

Please ignore.

We now return you to your previously scheduled programming...

  
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Quote (digitus impudicus @ Feb. 26 2010,23:02)
the previous posting by DI was rather banal.

Please ignore.

We now return you to your previously scheduled programming...

THAT WAS YOU"RE POST OF TEH WEAK.

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 26 2010,23:06   

and where the f*!* is Joe G(tard) when you need to abuse his ideas about automotive iron?


FFS, his ideas about biology are scarcely worth regarding.

hopefully his automotive discussions might prove a little more worthwhile?

of course, I think his ultimate auto would be something like this:

http://www.google.com/imgres?....rl=http

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 26 2010,23:07   

Of course, there is nothing intrinsically wrong about an Isetta.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 27 2010,01:31   

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Our two ranch trucks are a 1951 Chevy with a 1959-235 passenger car engine that replaced the old 216 engine years ago.  When I first met my wife this was our only rig for about 6 years and of course no AC which  made for a warm ride in the 110 F days of summer.  It is also colonized with lichen and moss mostly on the outside.

The other is a 1986 Toyota one-ton 2wd with 242,000+ miles on the 22R motor and a 5 speed manual transmission.  Great trucks!

Our farm truck around 69/70 was a Fargo of unspecified date, even the primer had faded to a sort of dusty rose / angry salmon hue, depending on your proclivity. Oh, and a BRIGHT YELLOW Dodge flatbed.

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 27 2010,02:46   

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Tell me, Joe.  Have you ever done a calculation?  

He sure has!  Behold!

You guys remember Joe bragging about his security clearance and his basement laboratory stocked with all sorts of whiz-bang equipment?

Well, I have heard from a reliable source that he just took delivery of his brand new CSI calculator.


I still have trouble believing those things can actually bake shit.

Err - Why would you want to?

Umm, I imagine if you're a child, it could seem like a good idea.  That's sort of the point of the toy, right?

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 27 2010,02:49   

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Why is there such a strong correlation between:

Creationism/Rednecks(southern and northern varieties)/fundamentalism/ autos that are fast in a straight line/cars that cannot corner/ cars parked in trees

GN and GNX's were worthless in corners.  They were fast in a straight line for their time, but there are many cars before and since those that are faster in a straight line.

Besides, TVR's and any Lotus's could wipe the asphalt with a GN.   Hell, the Elise can do it with about 100 less BHP (if my memory serves me right)

PS - even if my memory isn't right on the difference between the BHP difference between and Elise and a GN, the wiping the asphalt with the GNX still applies in the quarter mile

PPS - leaving the quarter mile for any sort of twisty bits, the Elise doesn't just wipe the asphalt with the remains of the GN, it scrapes it off of the Elises dainty tires

PPPS - Don't get me started on the comparison of a GN and an Exige...

PPPPS - stopping before I sound too much like GEM of TKI

The Lotus elise is just about the prettiest car I can think of. I want me one.

http://www.grouplotus.com/cars/showroom.html#/elise/eliseS/

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 27 2010,03:15   

yes, the Elise is something of an automotive nirvana.

at least for on road stuff.

for off road roads, one must really go to the old Land Rovers...

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 27 2010,03:20   

Well now beat this:
My first car was one like this:

Back in Norway, I learned it was called 'hobo in tuxedo'

Best car buy I ever made must have been a ten years old Hillman Minx in 1967. Do I detect the glint of a tear in Louis' eye?



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 27 2010,06:17   

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Tell me, Joe.  Have you ever done a calculation?  

He sure has!  Behold!

You guys remember Joe bragging about his security clearance and his basement laboratory stocked with all sorts of whiz-bang equipment?

Well, I have heard from a reliable source that he just took delivery of his brand new CSI calculator.


I still have trouble believing those things can actually bake shit.

Err - Why would you want to?

Umm, I imagine if you're a child, it could seem like a good idea.  That's sort of the point of the toy, right?

It's gonna be tough baking anything with a pair of mini-florescents.

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 27 2010,08:47   

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Tell me, Joe.  Have you ever done a calculation?  

He sure has!  Behold!

You guys remember Joe bragging about his security clearance and his basement laboratory stocked with all sorts of whiz-bang equipment?

Well, I have heard from a reliable source that he just took delivery of his brand new CSI calculator.


I still have trouble believing those things can actually bake shit.

Err - Why would you want to?

Umm, I imagine if you're a child, it could seem like a good idea.  That's sort of the point of the toy, right?

It's gonna be tough baking anything with a pair of mini-florescents.

that won't matter, the recipe is a dud anyway.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 27 2010,08:54   

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Tell me, Joe.  Have you ever done a calculation?  

He sure has!  Behold!

You guys remember Joe bragging about his security clearance and his basement laboratory stocked with all sorts of whiz-bang equipment?

Well, I have heard from a reliable source that he just took delivery of his brand new CSI calculator.


I still have trouble believing those things can actually bake shit.

Err - Why would you want to?

Umm, I imagine if you're a child, it could seem like a good idea.  That's sort of the point of the toy, right?

It's gonna be tough baking anything with a pair of mini-florescents.

Just to be clear, are you talking about Joe or the Easy Bake oven?

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 27 2010,13:05   

From what I've read GI Joe's already baked.


Ba-dump bump.

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 27 2010,14:05   

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Tell me, Joe.  Have you ever done a calculation?  

He sure has!  Behold!

You guys remember Joe bragging about his security clearance and his basement laboratory stocked with all sorts of whiz-bang equipment?

Well, I have heard from a reliable source that he just took delivery of his brand new CSI calculator.


I still have trouble believing those things can actually bake shit.

Err - Why would you want to?

Umm, I imagine if you're a child, it could seem like a good idea.  That's sort of the point of the toy, right?

It's gonna be tough baking anything with a pair of mini-florescents.

Just to be clear, are you talking about Joe or the Easy Bake oven?

Easy-bake. No wait...Joe?  No, no: definitely the Easy-bake.

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 27 2010,14:06   

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From what I've read GI Joe's already baked.


Ba-dump bump.

Here ya go:

http://www.instantrimshot.com/

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 28 2010,13:13   

So where did the little wimp go?  He's too scared to answer questions?  

You know, a couple dozen posts of screaming and cursing (and a rant about how badass his POS car is) and nothing.  

1) Is this the best Dembski's team has?
2) If he's a Christian, then he has greatly supported my thoughts about that particular sub-species known as the Xian fundie.

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 28 2010,14:23   

Shot this a while back in the parking lot at school, on the back of an old 80s model rust-bucket station wagon. Thought I'd share.



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 28 2010,14:42   

Quote (OgreMkV @ Feb. 28 2010,13:13)
So where did the little wimp go?  He's too scared to answer questions?  

You know, a couple dozen posts of screaming and cursing (and a rant about how badass his POS car is) and nothing.  

1) Is this the best Dembski's team has?
2) If he's a Christian, then he has greatly supported my thoughts about that particular sub-species known as the Xian fundie.

I thought he was claiming to be a Muslim or something?  IIRC, it was to prove that ID is less of a niche idiocy than we otherwise would suppose.

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 01 2010,11:18   

Has the tardgasm finished? Is Joe sitting somewhere all sweaty and flushed after his tardsturbation?

If so, the Drama Llama has paid the Richard Dawkins Forums a visit. Watch the internets melt down over there. At least it's a more articulate -gasm of some species than Joe's outpourings.

Louis

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 01 2010,11:19   

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Well now beat this:
My first car was one like this:

Back in Norway, I learned it was called 'hobo in tuxedo'

Best car buy I ever made must have been a ten years old Hillman Minx in 1967. Do I detect the glint of a tear in Louis' eye?


Sadly the Hillman Minx was before my time, even though it was a lovely* vehicle.

Louis

*Lovely doesn't necessarily mean it worked!

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 01 2010,11:38   

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Sadly the Hillman Minx was before my time, even though it was a lovely* vehicle.

Louis

*Lovely doesn't necessarily mean it worked!

I thought so. But I drove it for two years without a hitch and with the then new-fangled radial tires it was a dream to drive - for that time in history at least.

It had leather upholstery, what we called a 'sofa seat' and a column mounted gear shift handle.

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 01 2010,12:47   

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Sadly the Hillman Minx was before my time, even though it was a lovely* vehicle.

Louis

*Lovely doesn't necessarily mean it worked!

I thought so. But I drove it for two years without a hitch and with the then new-fangled radial tires it was a dream to drive - for that time in history at least.

It had leather upholstery, what we called a 'sofa seat' and a column mounted gear shift handle.

I miss bench seats. So many lost opportunities with buckets.

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 01 2010,13:09   

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Sadly the Hillman Minx was before my time, even though it was a lovely* vehicle.

Louis

*Lovely doesn't necessarily mean it worked!

I thought so. But I drove it for two years without a hitch and with the then new-fangled radial tires it was a dream to drive - for that time in history at least.

It had leather upholstery, what we called a 'sofa seat' and a column mounted gear shift handle.

I miss bench seats. So many lost opportunities with buckets.

Way back in high school I had a beater 68 Plymouth Satellite with bench seats.  That led to what back then we called "COD" turns for "come over darling" - a hard right hand corner so your girlfriend would end up in your lap.   Also known as an "SOB" turn - "slide over babe!"

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 01 2010,13:58   

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Sadly the Hillman Minx was before my time, even though it was a lovely* vehicle.

Louis

*Lovely doesn't necessarily mean it worked!

I thought so. But I drove it for two years without a hitch and with the then new-fangled radial tires it was a dream to drive - for that time in history at least.

It had leather upholstery, what we called a 'sofa seat' and a column mounted gear shift handle.

I miss bench seats. So many lost opportunities with buckets.

Way back in high school I had a beater 68 Plymouth Satellite with bench seats.  That led to what back then we called "COD" turns for "come over darling" - a hard right hand corner so your girlfriend would end up in your lap.   Also known as an "SOB" turn - "slide over babe!"

Sadly, my only memory of bench seats is getting stuck sitting between my parents on long trips.  Oh, the trials of being the baby of the family!

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 01 2010,15:03   

The advent of bucket seats probably did more to reduce teenage pregnancies than any other single factor.   ;)

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 01 2010,15:38   

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Sadly the Hillman Minx was before my time, even though it was a lovely* vehicle.

Louis

*Lovely doesn't necessarily mean it worked!

I thought so. But I drove it for two years without a hitch and with the then new-fangled radial tires it was a dream to drive - for that time in history at least.

It had leather upholstery, what we called a 'sofa seat' and a column mounted gear shift handle.

I miss bench seats. So many lost opportunities with buckets.

Way back in high school I had a beater 68 Plymouth Satellite with bench seats.  That led to what back then we called "COD" turns for "come over darling" - a hard right hand corner so your girlfriend would end up in your lap.   Also known as an "SOB" turn - "slide over babe!"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NlZvYcDLtYc

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 02 2010,08:01   

Quote (Louis @ Mar. 01 2010,11:18)
Has the tardgasm finished? Is Joe sitting somewhere all sweaty and flushed after his tardsturbation?

If so, the Drama Llama has paid the Richard Dawkins Forums a visit. Watch the internets melt down over there. At least it's a more articulate -gasm of some species than Joe's outpourings.

Louis

No asshole- you are still alive and I am sure you have more tard to spew.

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 02 2010,08:15   

Insults... you're doing them wrong.

I half expected Joe to say, 'neener, neener, neener'.  But I realized that stringing together three multi-syllable words that weren’t curses is beyond your cognitive capability.  

How have I tested this hypothesis?  Well, my hypothesis predicts that Joe can’t walk and chew gum at the same time.  And observation has discovered a sprawling JoeG with partially masticated chewing gum lying beside him.

My hypothesis further predicts that JoeG is ugly.  The experiment was to compare JoeG with the hind end of a canine of indeterminate ancestry.  When presented to a random sample population, the majority found the dog’s hind end to more aesthetically pleasing.

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 02 2010,08:31   

Quote (Joe G @ Mar. 02 2010,08:01)
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Has the tardgasm finished? Is Joe sitting somewhere all sweaty and flushed after his tardsturbation?

If so, the Drama Llama has paid the Richard Dawkins Forums a visit. Watch the internets melt down over there. At least it's a more articulate -gasm of some species than Joe's outpourings.

Louis

No asshole- you are still alive and I am sure you have more tard to spew.

Somewhere Pavlov is smiling.

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 02 2010,08:35   

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Insults... you're doing them wrong.

I half expected Joe to say, 'neener, neener, neener'.  But I realized that stringing together three multi-syllable words that weren’t curses is beyond your cognitive capability.  

How have I tested this hypothesis?  Well, my hypothesis predicts that Joe can’t walk and chew gum at the same time.  And observation has discovered a sprawling JoeG with partially masticated chewing gum lying beside him.

My hypothesis further predicts that JoeG is ugly.  The experiment was to compare JoeG with the hind end of a canine of indeterminate ancestry.  When presented to a random sample population, the majority found the dog’s hind end to more aesthetically pleasing.

What insults?

I am just making valid observations.

And yes I am ugly- so what?

At least I am not as moronic as you.

I can get plastic surgery but you will always be a fucking retard.

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 02 2010,08:36   

Quote (KCdgw @ Mar. 02 2010,08:31)
Quote (Joe G @ Mar. 02 2010,08:01)
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Has the tardgasm finished? Is Joe sitting somewhere all sweaty and flushed after his tardsturbation?

If so, the Drama Llama has paid the Richard Dawkins Forums a visit. Watch the internets melt down over there. At least it's a more articulate -gasm of some species than Joe's outpourings.

Louis

No asshole- you are still alive and I am sure you have more tard to spew.

Somewhere Pavlov is smiling.

Smiling AT you-, you ding-a-ling

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 02 2010,11:33   

Quote (Joe G @ Mar. 02 2010,08:35)
Quote (OgreMkV @ Mar. 02 2010,08:15)
Insults... you're doing them wrong.

I half expected Joe to say, 'neener, neener, neener'.  But I realized that stringing together three multi-syllable words that weren’t curses is beyond your cognitive capability.  

How have I tested this hypothesis?  Well, my hypothesis predicts that Joe can’t walk and chew gum at the same time.  And observation has discovered a sprawling JoeG with partially masticated chewing gum lying beside him.

My hypothesis further predicts that JoeG is ugly.  The experiment was to compare JoeG with the hind end of a canine of indeterminate ancestry.  When presented to a random sample population, the majority found the dog’s hind end to more aesthetically pleasing.

What insults?

I am just making valid observations.

And yes I am ugly- so what?

At least I am not as moronic as you.

I can get plastic surgery but you will always be a fucking retard.

The prosecution rests.

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 02 2010,12:00   

Quote (Joe G @ Mar. 02 2010,13:01)
Quote (Louis @ Mar. 01 2010,11:18)
Has the tardgasm finished? Is Joe sitting somewhere all sweaty and flushed after his tardsturbation?

If so, the Drama Llama has paid the Richard Dawkins Forums a visit. Watch the internets melt down over there. At least it's a more articulate -gasm of some species than Joe's outpourings.

Louis

No asshole- you are still alive and I am sure you have more tard to spew.

I spout tard? Oh no no no little doggie. You have that entirely backwards, still, your attempt at projection is noted. And stupid.

Tell me little doggie, will you bark for me some more? Perhaps you'll try to hump someone's leg. Come on pooch, yap yap, jump and yap.

Louis

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 02 2010,12:02   

Quote (Joe G @ Mar. 02 2010,08:36)
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Has the tardgasm finished? Is Joe sitting somewhere all sweaty and flushed after his tardsturbation?

If so, the Drama Llama has paid the Richard Dawkins Forums a visit. Watch the internets melt down over there. At least it's a more articulate -gasm of some species than Joe's outpourings.

Louis

No asshole- you are still alive and I am sure you have more tard to spew.

Somewhere Pavlov is smiling.

Smiling AT you-, you ding-a-ling

This is a small sample of your inability to properly insult people.  Also, it has relevance to your inability to properly construct jokes.

The response should not have been "Smiling AT you."  This would indicate that the original sentence had referenced you directly but gotten the preposition wrong.  Your emphasis of the preposition would be funny if you were in fact punning on the error (or perceived error) of the original statement.  Sadly, this is not the case.

The response should have been "Smiling at YOU."  This would indicate both your understanding that the original line was intended as a jibe at yourself and that you have some superior knowledge that allows you know the real jibe should be taken at the speaker.

This is basic stuff, Joe.  I think you have it in you to be funny.  My offer of acting and improvisation classes is still open.

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 02 2010,12:04   

Quote (KCdgw @ Mar. 02 2010,13:31)
Quote (Joe G @ Mar. 02 2010,08:01)
Quote (Louis @ Mar. 01 2010,11:18)
Has the tardgasm finished? Is Joe sitting somewhere all sweaty and flushed after his tardsturbation?

If so, the Drama Llama has paid the Richard Dawkins Forums a visit. Watch the internets melt down over there. At least it's a more articulate -gasm of some species than Joe's outpourings.

Louis

No asshole- you are still alive and I am sure you have more tard to spew.

Somewhere Pavlov is smiling.

Lol shhhhhhh the doggie doesn't understand, don't give the game away. The doggie is too stupid to do anything but spew tard, drop turds and yap ineffectually. Letting it know about Pavlov will give it ideas above it's station. It isn't an experimental subject, it's a chew toy.

I shouldn't be amused by poking it with a stick, but dammit it *is* kinda funny. I know, I know, it makes me a bad person. Still, poke poke, yap yap, har har.

Louis

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Quote (blipey @ Mar. 02 2010,17:02)
[SNIP]

My offer of acting and improvisation classes is still open.

Blipey,

Can you include washing and basic personal hygeine classes. Poochie smells. Basic literacy skills might help poor wickle poochie too. It seems to be very confused and it clearly can't understand anything.

Also, whilst I'm no product of Miss Manners' School for Not Using the Sweary Words, the little mutt can only use the word "asshole". I'm not sure if he is advocating a particular sexual preference or commenting on his own aroma, but we'd all be very grateful if you could expand his vocabulary too.

I know this is a lot of work for one person to accomplish, you will be more than compensated for your efforts from the Evil Atheist Conspiracy* Church Burning Ebola Boy Relief Fund.

Louis

*Does. Not. Exist. Helicopters. Black. Vehicles. Your location. Now. Memory. Gone.

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 02 2010,12:19   

Well, Louis.  I can get pooch to increase or decrease his use of the asshole stratagem, but have never gotten him to expand his area of operation.  It seems you can't teach an old dog new tricks after all.

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 02 2010,12:35   

Quote (blipey @ Mar. 02 2010,12:19)
Well, Louis.  I can get pooch to increase or decrease his use of the asshole stratagem, but have never gotten him to expand his area of operation.  It seems you can't teach an old dog new tricks after all.

But you can sure get him to drool on cue like a sonofabitch.

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 02 2010,12:53   

Quote (blipey @ Mar. 02 2010,17:19)
Well, Louis.  I can get pooch to increase or decrease his use of the asshole stratagem, but have never gotten him to expand his area of operation.  It seems you can't teach an old dog new tricks after all.

Maybe if we moved to testicle cuffs and an electric cattle prod?

Not for him you understand, I have guests this weekend. Sorry I just got distracted.

I'd settle for teaching the pooch not to make poopies on the carpet. Maybe you should team up Olegt and meet Joe and ID Guy in a car park, at least you and Olegt are different people, not just voices in a doggy's confused, crack addled brain.

Louis

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 02 2010,13:12   

How can you reach something approximating adulthood without knowing about Pavlov? I'm amazed and appalled.

Hope you're feeling honoured Joe Gangsta, I delurked just for you darling.

Ding ding ding.

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Quote (carlsonjok @ Feb. 25 2010,20:14)
Quote (OgreMkV @ Feb. 25 2010,20:06)
Tell me, Joe.  Have you ever done a calculation?  

He sure has!  Behold!

So, an aardvark only 202 characters?

Didn't Berlinski count 50,000 character differences between cows and whales?

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 02 2010,14:48   

Quote (Louis @ Mar. 02 2010,12:53)
{snip}  at least you and Olegt are different people...

are we?

p.s.  apologies to Olegt, who is much smarter than the other half of me...

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 02 2010,14:53   

Quote (blipey @ Mar. 02 2010,19:48)
Quote (Louis @ Mar. 02 2010,12:53)
{snip}  at least you and Olegt are different people...

are we?

p.s.  apologies to Olegt, who is much smarter than the other half of me...

Ahhhh well this *is* the interwebs and everyone on it is really just one of the many personalities of a 400lb trucker from Arkansas called Bubba. Even the ladies.....

Especially the ladies.

Louis

P.S. I've just discovered, via Pharyngula, something called ChatRoulette. All I'll say is never again. Never, ever again.

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 05 2010,23:21   

Joe?

Sweety?

Whatever happened to our GN/GNX discussion?

Is it parked in a tree?

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 05 2010,23:23   

<Tammy Fay Bakker voice>

Jim?

Jim?

The kids were only joking honey.

Jim?

<close Tammy Fay Bakker voice>

(look up Sam Kinnison for those unfamiliar)

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 06 2010,15:22   

Quote (Louis @ Mar. 02 2010,15:53)
P.S. I've just discovered, via Pharyngula, something called ChatRoulette. All I'll say is never again. Never, ever again.

The Daily Show did a great skit on ChatRoulette: http://tinyurl.com/y9bdkjk.  See if you can identify the headshot behind Keith Olbermann.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 11 2010,08:29   

Quote (digitus impudicus @ Mar. 05 2010,23:21)
Joe?

Sweety?

Whatever happened to our GN/GNX discussion?

Is it parked in a tree?

I don't have a GNX.

And why would I want to discuss my GN with you?

Someone asshead said I drive a Dodge.

I just corrected that nonsense.

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Quote (slpage @ Mar. 02 2010,14:24)
Quote (carlsonjok @ Feb. 25 2010,20:14)
Quote (OgreMkV @ Feb. 25 2010,20:06)
Tell me, Joe.  Have you ever done a calculation?  

He sure has!  Behold!

So, an aardvark only 202 characters?

Didn't Berlinski count 50,000 character differences between cows and whales?

Dr Page proves he is an imbecile.

The definition of an aarvark only has that many characters.

Are you that stupid that you can't even understand what I post?

Do you realize that 13 year olds understand what you cannot?

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 11 2010,08:39   

Quote (Joe G @ Mar. 11 2010,08:31)
Quote (slpage @ Mar. 02 2010,14:24)
 
Quote (carlsonjok @ Feb. 25 2010,20:14)
 
Quote (OgreMkV @ Feb. 25 2010,20:06)
Tell me, Joe.  Have you ever done a calculation?  

He sure has!  Behold!

So, an aardvark only 202 characters?

Didn't Berlinski count 50,000 character differences between cows and whales?

Dr Page proves he is an imbecile.

The definition of an aarvark only has that many characters.

Are you that stupid that you can't even understand what I post?

Do you realize that 13 year olds understand what you cannot?

So what was your point in bringing up a definition of an aardvark ? How does this relate to the amount of 'specified complex information' in an organism?

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 11 2010,08:51   

Quote (Richard Simons @ Mar. 11 2010,08:39)
Quote (Joe G @ Mar. 11 2010,08:31)
 
Quote (slpage @ Mar. 02 2010,14:24)
 
Quote (carlsonjok @ Feb. 25 2010,20:14)
   
Quote (OgreMkV @ Feb. 25 2010,20:06)
Tell me, Joe.  Have you ever done a calculation?  

He sure has!  Behold!

So, an aardvark only 202 characters?

Didn't Berlinski count 50,000 character differences between cows and whales?

Dr Page proves he is an imbecile.

The definition of an aarvark only has that many characters.

Are you that stupid that you can't even understand what I post?

Do you realize that 13 year olds understand what you cannot?

So what was your point in bringing up a definition of an aardvark ? How does this relate to the amount of 'specified complex information' in an organism?

Well Richard perhaps you should read that blog entry.

But most likely that won't help because you are an evotard...

So I will spoon-feed you-

In the post "Measuring Information/ specified complexity" I used the definition of an aarvark as an example of how to measure specified information to see if complex specified information is present.

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 11 2010,09:34   

Quote (Joe G @ Mar. 11 2010,08:51)
In the post "Measuring Information/ specified complexity" I used the definition of an aarvark as an example of how to measure specified information to see if complex specified information is present.

And what was the value you determined for the amount of information in a Aardvark?

And is that more or less then the information in a bacterial flagellum?

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 11 2010,09:37   

Quote (oldmanintheskydidntdoit @ Mar. 11 2010,09:34)
Quote (Joe G @ Mar. 11 2010,08:51)
In the post "Measuring Information/ specified complexity" I used the definition of an aarvark as an example of how to measure specified information to see if complex specified information is present.

And what was the value you determined for the amount of information in a Aardvark?

And is that more or less then the information in a bacterial flagellum?

Do you really think your ignorance helps your case?

Even if ID is bunk you still couldn't support your position.

I take that bothers you.

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 11 2010,09:39   

So Joe,
About this debate. I don't think that a person who displays the level of intelligence that you typically display here could have $10,000 to put up in the first place. Unless you've been saving up the money that people throw at you to make you go away that is, in which case it's quite possible.

Put the money in escrow and perhaps you'll convince me that you have it in the first place and then we can get this debate kicked off.

http://www.iescrow.com/

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 11 2010,09:44   

Quote (oldmanintheskydidntdoit @ Mar. 11 2010,09:39)
So Joe,
About this debate. I don't think that a person who displays the level of intelligence that you typically display here could have $10,000 to put up in the first place. Unless you've been saving up the money that people throw at you to make you go away that is, in which case it's quite possible.

Put the money in escrow and perhaps you'll convince me that you have it in the first place and then we can get this debate kicked off.

http://www.iescrow.com/

Nice projection you ignorant dolt.

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 11 2010,09:51   

Quote (Joe G @ Mar. 11 2010,09:37)

 
Do you really think your ignorance helps your case?

Ignorance of what? Your "argument"? Seems like the entire biological community is doing just fine without your "input".

Interesting how you pretend I did not ask a question. I know that you have problems supporting your position, but if you could tell me which has more information (and how much more), an Aardvark or bacterial flagellum, that would go a long way to proving your case that ID deals in "information" and that you can quantify it.
   
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Even if ID is bunk you still couldn't support your position.

And that's why "my position" is the default one and your position is doing so well in the courts, in schools, in journals.
I mean, look at the support that ID has for it's position
http://www.iscid.org/
A journal that has not published in 5 years.

 
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I take that bothers you.

It seems to bother you, in fact it seems to bother you so much that you are here. Why not go to UD or TT and shout into the echo chamber?

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 11 2010,09:52   

Quote (Joe G @ Mar. 11 2010,09:44)
Nice projection you ignorant dolt.

The plural of insults is not "data" you know.

Tell me one thing, how do you keep a keyboard working with the amount of drool you must produce?

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 11 2010,09:55   

Quote (oldmanintheskydidntdoit @ Mar. 11 2010,09:51)
Quote (Joe G @ Mar. 11 2010,09:37)

 
Do you really think your ignorance helps your case?

Ignorance of what? Your "argument"? Seems like the entire biological community is doing just fine without your "input".

Interesting how you pretend I did not ask a question. I know that you have problems supporting your position, but if you could tell me which has more information (and how much more), an Aardvark or bacterial flagellum, that would go a long way to proving your case that ID deals in "information" and that you can quantify it.
   
Quote
Even if ID is bunk you still couldn't support your position.

And that's why "my position" is the default one and your position is doing so well in the courts, in schools, in journals.
I mean, look at the support that ID has for it's position
http://www.iscid.org/
A journal that has not published in 5 years.

   
Quote

I take that bothers you.

It seems to bother you, in fact it seems to bother you so much that you are here. Why not go to UD or TT and shout into the echo chamber?

Too bad that biological community has no idea if the transformations required are even possible via mutational accumulation.

And all YOU have is to try to bash ID with your ignorance.

You couldn't support your position if your life depended on it.

As for not answering questions- well limpdick tell me-

How can we test the premise that the bacterial flagellum "evolved" via an accumulation of genetic accidents?

It isn't in any textbooks. And it isn't in any peer-reviewed paper.

IOW asswipe your position is all smoke and mirrors.

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 11 2010,09:56   

Quote (oldmanintheskydidntdoit @ Mar. 11 2010,09:52)
Quote (Joe G @ Mar. 11 2010,09:44)
Nice projection you ignorant dolt.

The plural of insults is not "data" you know.

Tell me one thing, how do you keep a keyboard working with the amount of drool you must produce?

More projection from the drool-queen

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 11 2010,10:01   

Quote (Joe G @ Mar. 11 2010,09:55)

Too bad that biological community has no idea if the transformations required are even possible via mutational accumulation.

And your proof for that is what? Those words? Anything else?
 
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And all YOU have is to try to bash ID with your ignorance.

Why don't you wow us all then and give a demonstration of the EF in action.
 
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You couldn't support your position if your life depended on it.

The argument has already happened. My "position" is the default. You've already lost, you just don't realise it.
 
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As for not answering questions- well limpdick tell me-

How can we test the premise that the bacterial flagellum "evolved" via an accumulation of genetic accidents?

I'll answer that once you answer how we can test the premise that the bacterial flagellum was intelligently designed?

Also, which bacterial flagellum did you have in mind here? There are many variants. Any one in particular? I'm afraid I don't know what the variant is called that is on the banner at UD.
 
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It isn't in any textbooks. And it isn't in any peer-reviewed paper.

As we've seen from the "cosmos" thread even it is probable you would not be able to understand it.
 
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IOW asswipe your position is all smoke and mirrors.

And that's why almost every working biologist in the entire world takes that position. And a few bible bashing IDiots at bible-university and you think otherwise. So what.

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 11 2010,10:02   

Quote (Joe G @ Mar. 11 2010,09:56)
More projection from the drool-queen

Have you just learnt a new word? How sweet!

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 11 2010,10:09   

Quote (Joe G @ Mar. 11 2010,09:55)
How can we test the premise that the bacterial flagellum "evolved" via an accumulation of genetic accidents?

Joe G claims that the EF can detect ghosts:
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Next we have the “Ghost Hunters” on the SciFi channel. They use the EF- as in first they try to explain phenomenon X via all other non-agency explanations. Only after those attempts have failed, and a pattern is met, do they say the place is haunted.

Yet he can't give us an example of the EF detecting design in biology despite the fact they can do it on TV.

Har har har.

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 11 2010,10:11   

Quote (oldmanintheskydidntdoit @ Mar. 11 2010,10:01)
Quote (Joe G @ Mar. 11 2010,09:55)

Too bad that biological community has no idea if the transformations required are even possible via mutational accumulation.

And your proof for that is what? Those words? Anything else?
   
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And all YOU have is to try to bash ID with your ignorance.

Why don't you wow us all then and give a demonstration of the EF in action.
   
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You couldn't support your position if your life depended on it.

The argument has already happened. My "position" is the default. You've already lost, you just don't realise it.
   
Quote

As for not answering questions- well limpdick tell me-

How can we test the premise that the bacterial flagellum "evolved" via an accumulation of genetic accidents?

I'll answer that once you answer how we can test the premise that the bacterial flagellum was intelligently designed?

Also, which bacterial flagellum did you have in mind here? There are many variants. Any one in particular? I'm afraid I don't know what the variant is called that is on the banner at UD.
   
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It isn't in any textbooks. And it isn't in any peer-reviewed paper.

As we've seen from the "cosmos" thread even it is probable you would not be able to understand it.
   
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IOW asswipe your position is all smoke and mirrors.

And that's why almost every working biologist in the entire world takes that position. And a few bible bashing IDiots at bible-university and you think otherwise. So what.

My "proof"= nothing in peer-review.

There isn't any data which demonstrates mutations can accumulate in such a way as to give rise to new protein machinery, new body parts and new body plans.

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 11 2010,10:16   

Quote (Joe G @ Mar. 11 2010,10:11)


My "proof"= nothing in peer-review.

What have you read? Given that it's not possible for a single person to keep up with the complete volume of scientific output I have to wonder on what basis you make this claim.

Do you have a team of ID researchers in your basement scouring every journal? Every paper that comes out?
 
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There isn't any data which demonstrates mutations can accumulate in such a way as to give rise to new protein machinery, new body parts and new body plans.

Therefore ID? Even if that were true, how exactly does it help you? Even if it were true, what support does that give ID?

None whatsoever, that's how much.

Ever thought about providing some evidence for *your* position? Knock "Darwinism" as much as you like, it won't help ID one single bit.

So, about that debate. Proved you've even got $10,000 yet? Or still making that empty claim just to avoid having to put up or shut up?

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 11 2010,10:23   

Quote (oldmanintheskydidntdoit @ Mar. 11 2010,10:16)
Quote (Joe G @ Mar. 11 2010,10:11)


My "proof"= nothing in peer-review.

What have you read? Given that it's not possible for a single person to keep up with the complete volume of scientific output I have to wonder on what basis you make this claim.

Do you have a team of ID researchers in your basement scouring every journal? Every paper that comes out?
 
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There isn't any data which demonstrates mutations can accumulate in such a way as to give rise to new protein machinery, new body parts and new body plans.

Therefore ID? Even if that were true, how exactly does it help you? Even if it were true, what support does that give ID?

None whatsoever, that's how much.

Ever thought about providing some evidence for *your* position? Knock "Darwinism" as much as you like, it won't help ID one single bit.

So, about that debate. Proved you've even got $10,000 yet? Or still making that empty claim just to avoid having to put up or shut up?

Hey asshole- If I am wrong then please present the data which demonstrates that.

I have provided plenty of evidence for ID on my blog.

Why can't you grow some balls and leave your protectorate and actually engage the evidence?

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 11 2010,10:25   

Quote (oldmanintheskydidntdoit @ Mar. 11 2010,10:09)
Quote (Joe G @ Mar. 11 2010,09:55)
How can we test the premise that the bacterial flagellum "evolved" via an accumulation of genetic accidents?

Joe G claims that the EF can detect ghosts:
 
Quote
Next we have the “Ghost Hunters” on the SciFi channel. They use the EF- as in first they try to explain phenomenon X via all other non-agency explanations. Only after those attempts have failed, and a pattern is met, do they say the place is haunted.

Yet he can't give us an example of the EF detecting design in biology despite the fact they can do it on TV.

Har har har.

Using moronic plumbers who have no clue as to what they are doing as evidence of EF?  Those idiots just start out with the assumption there is a ghost, then look for anything they can twist to conform to their fantasies.  If ghosts are real, those guys wouldn't know one if it bit them on the ass.  All they end up doing is making assertions and scaring themselves, and feeling superior to anyone who isn't in their clique.

Oh, wait, that is like IDiots.

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 11 2010,10:26   

Quote (oldmanintheskydidntdoit @ Mar. 11 2010,10:09)
Quote (Joe G @ Mar. 11 2010,09:55)
How can we test the premise that the bacterial flagellum "evolved" via an accumulation of genetic accidents?

Joe G claims that the EF can detect ghosts:
 
Quote
Next we have the “Ghost Hunters” on the SciFi channel. They use the EF- as in first they try to explain phenomenon X via all other non-agency explanations. Only after those attempts have failed, and a pattern is met, do they say the place is haunted.

Yet he can't give us an example of the EF detecting design in biology despite the fact they can do it on TV.

Har har har.



CSI investigation.

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 11 2010,10:29   

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I have provided plenty of evidence for ID on my blog.


Then it shouldn't be too much trouble to cut and paste your best example of that evidence.

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Why can't you grow some balls and leave your protectorate and actually engage the evidence?


Your posts are coming through here without hindrance, Joe. You pre-moderate your own blog. A quick glance doesn't suggest your blog is a suitable venue for a free exchange of ideas.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 11 2010,10:30   

Quote (Joe G @ Mar. 11 2010,10:23)


Hey asshole- If I am wrong then please present the data which demonstrates that.

Make a specific claim. It's hard to determine what you are talking about with all the insults.
 
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I have provided plenty of evidence for ID on my blog.

So what. Publish or perish. You have said
 
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And please provide the peer-reviewed paper(s) that support your explanation.

Link
 
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How can we test the premise that the bacterial flagellum "evolved" via an accumulation of genetic accidents?

It isn't in any textbooks. And it isn't in any peer-reviewed paper.

IOW asswipe your position is all smoke and mirrors.

Link
 
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My "proof"= nothing in peer-review.

Link
All your own words.

And so, by your own standards your "evidence for ID on your blog" is worthless, all smoke and mirrors.
 
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Why can't you grow some balls and leave your protectorate and actually engage the evidence?

Probably for the same reason you are too afraid to publish your "evidence" in the same peer reviewed journals.

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 11 2010,10:30   

Creationists love to control the conversation.

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 11 2010,10:32   

Quote (Alan Fox @ Mar. 11 2010,10:29)
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I have provided plenty of evidence for ID on my blog.


Then it shouldn't be too much trouble to cut and paste your best example of that evidence.

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Why can't you grow some balls and leave your protectorate and actually engage the evidence?


Your posts are coming through here without hindrance, Joe. You pre-moderate your own blog. A quick glance doesn't suggest your blog is a suitable venue for a free exchange of ideas.

Alan,

It shouldn't be any problem for you to post the best evidence for your position.

Please start with a testable hypothesis for an accumulation of genetic accidents.

As for posting here- just to fight assholes like you.

I posted a new topic and some little faggot edited my words.

IOW this is not the place to exchange ideas...

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 11 2010,10:33   

Quote (Richardthughes @ Mar. 11 2010,10:30)
Creationists love to control the conversation.

And Richtard loves to be a fucking asshole

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 11 2010,10:33   

Quote (Joe G @ Mar. 11 2010,10:32)
IOW this is not the place to exchange ideas...

I guess it's time for this then


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I also mentioned that He'd have to give me a thorough explanation as to *why* I must "eat human babies".
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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 11 2010,10:38   

Does peroxide have unfocused rage and loss of cognitive ability as side effects?

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 11 2010,10:38   

Quote (oldmanintheskydidntdoit @ Mar. 11 2010,10:33)
Quote (Joe G @ Mar. 11 2010,10:32)
IOW this is not the place to exchange ideas...

I guess it's time for this then

Are you going to run away?

That beats actually supporting your nonsensical position...

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 11 2010,10:39   

Quote (Richardthughes @ Mar. 11 2010,10:38)
Does peroxide have unfocused rage and loss of cognitive ability as side effects?

Is that what you are taking?

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 11 2010,10:41   

Quote (Joe G @ Mar. 11 2010,10:39)
Quote (Richardthughes @ Mar. 11 2010,10:38)
Does peroxide have unfocused rage and loss of cognitive ability as side effects?

Is that what you are taking?

What you should do is write on a bit of paper "How is the peroxide treatments going" and when you switch over to your other personality he can write the answer. You can then read it at some later date.

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 11 2010,10:42   

There may be CSI, in your neighbourhood,
Who ya gonna call...?

You should set up a CSI hunting small business like on the 'documentary' I referenced upthread. You may even get to bang Sigourney Weaver or Rick Moranis if you've come out of the closet by then.

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 11 2010,10:47   

Quote (Joe G @ Mar. 11 2010,10:32)
Quote (Alan Fox @ Mar. 11 2010,10:29)
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I have provided plenty of evidence for ID on my blog.


Then it shouldn't be too much trouble to cut and paste your best example of that evidence.

 
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Why can't you grow some balls and leave your protectorate and actually engage the evidence?


Your posts are coming through here without hindrance, Joe. You pre-moderate your own blog. A quick glance doesn't suggest your blog is a suitable venue for a free exchange of ideas.

Alan,

It shouldn't be any problem for you to post the best evidence for your position.

Please start with a testable hypothesis for an accumulation of genetic accidents.

As for posting here- just to fight assholes like you.

I posted a new topic and some little faggot edited my words.

IOW this is not the place to exchange ideas...

excuse me for butting in on the insult fest here, but isn't lenski's e coli experiment enough for you?

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 11 2010,10:49   

Duh! someone designed that experiment!

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 11 2010,10:51   

Running totals for JoeG's mid-March "contribution" to this thread:
Posts P = 13
Posts mentioning bottoms P(b) = 6

Prediction: ratio P(b)/P will increase as Joe gets more and more transported by the manly thrust of his argument.

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 11 2010,11:01   

I believe, JoeG, that the subject here is "intelligent design," "specified complexity" and all that.

So, JoeG, what is the mathematical definition of "specified complexity."  I can't find it anywhere.  What are the units?  How is it measured?  

For that matter, what is the mathematical definition of "complexity?"  What are its units and how is it measured?

Meyer states that "specified complexity" can not be expressed in terms of "mere" information like Shannon or Kolmogorov.

Should be easy like F=ma or I=E/R.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 11 2010,11:09   

Looks like ID Guy is done.

Hey, Joe

Might let you last long enough to give us that demo of the EF.

Perhaps next time.

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 11 2010,11:13   

Quote (oldmanintheskydidntdoit @ Mar. 11 2010,11:09)
Looks like ID Guy is done.

Hey, Joe

Might let you last long enough to give us that demo of the EF.

Perhaps next time.

Don't count on it.



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 11 2010,11:16   

Clean up in aisle five, please. Clean up in aisle five.

We appear to have a troll spongle spillage in aisel five.

Louis

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 11 2010,12:32   

Quote (Joe G @ Mar. 11 2010,09:29)
Someone asshead said I drive a Dodge.

the asshead that said that was you.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 11 2010,13:03   

Quote (Joe G @ Mar. 11 2010,08:31)
Quote (slpage @ Mar. 02 2010,14:24)
Quote (carlsonjok @ Feb. 25 2010,20:14)
 
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Tell me, Joe.  Have you ever done a calculation?  

He sure has!  Behold!

So, an aardvark only 202 characters?

Didn't Berlinski count 50,000 character differences between cows and whales?

Dr Page proves he is an imbecile.

The definition of an aarvark only has that many characters.

Are you that stupid that you can't even understand what I post?

Do you realize that 13 year olds understand what you cannot?

Hi Joey,

I see that you - being a scientist and all, what with your degree in electronics engineering - can only respond in  that oh so Christian (or is it still Muslim?) spirit.

You see, Berlinski claimed to have gotten to 50,000 characters that seperate whales from camels.  You got a mere 202 characters that 'define' an aardvark.  

If there are more than 50,000 differences between a whale and a cow, surley there are many more than define each species.

So, this must mean that whales have at the very least nearly 250 times as many characters as aardvarks.

Does that sound right?

Which one of you is correct?

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 11 2010,13:05   

Quote (Joe G @ Mar. 11 2010,09:37)
Quote (oldmanintheskydidntdoit @ Mar. 11 2010,09:34)
Quote (Joe G @ Mar. 11 2010,08:51)
In the post "Measuring Information/ specified complexity" I used the definition of an aarvark as an example of how to measure specified information to see if complex specified information is present.

And what was the value you determined for the amount of information in a Aardvark?

And is that more or less then the information in a bacterial flagellum?

Do you really think your ignorance helps your case?

Even if ID is bunk you still couldn't support your position.

I take that bothers you.

Your response does not in any way appear to remotely address what had been asked of you.

Was your combat wound in Iraq to yiour head?

And why was it not on the news?

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 11 2010,13:07   

Quote (Joe G @ Mar. 11 2010,10:11)
There isn't any data which demonstrates mutations can accumulate in such a way as to give rise to new protein machinery, new body parts and new body plans.

Is there any evidence that this can be accomplished by a disembodied unknown "intelligence"?

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 11 2010,18:37   

Hey, Joe.

Perhaps you could use this forum to reveal (revelate?) how you would determine the CSI of a river rock from its manufactured copy.

I understand you would have to examine it personally (I have no idea why this is so other than you say it is so, but I'll take you at your word), so what will you be looking for when you examine these two objects personally?

Please be specific.

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 11 2010,19:50   

Quote (slpage @ Mar. 11 2010,14:07)
Quote (Joe G @ Mar. 11 2010,10:11)
There isn't any data which demonstrates mutations can accumulate in such a way as to give rise to new protein machinery, new body parts and new body plans.

Is there any evidence that this can be accomplished by a disembodied unknown "intelligence"?

Perhaps disembodied intelligences design disembodied body parts and disembodied body plans. We just can't see them.

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 11 2010,20:41   

Quote (Joe G @ Mar. 11 2010,08:51)
In the post "Measuring Information/ specified complexity" I used the definition of an aarvark as an example of how to measure specified information to see if complex specified information is present.

OK. So you've measured the complexity of a particular English language definition of an aardvark. How does that help you determine how much complexity there is in a real beastie? (BTW, I read the post when it first came out. It has not improved with keeping.)

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 11 2010,21:53   

And an anxious nation awaits endarkenment, err, entardemission, maybe jerkjissim.

Does it seem that there is a cycle to this bull shit? Do we have enough of the cycle to know its period? Is there a hetro-cycle (not likely, I would predict an off-set homocycle)?

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 11 2010,22:02   

Quote (Dr.GH @ Mar. 11 2010,22:53)
And an anxious nation awaits endarkenment, err, entardemission, maybe jerkjissim.

Does it seem that there is a cycle to this bull shit? Do we have enough of the cycle to know its period? Is there a hetro-cycle (not likely, I would predict an off-set homocycle)?

The cycle you're looking for is "tricycle."

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 12 2010,23:02   

JoeTard now claims that it is impossible for rocks to be baseball sized!!!  In other news, bread boxes don't exist...

ID wunderkind destroys the notion of comparative language!

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 12 2010,23:04   

Quote (Joe G @ Mar. 11 2010,08:29)
Quote (digitus impudicus @ Mar. 05 2010,23:21)
Joe?

Sweety?

Whatever happened to our GN/GNX discussion?

Is it parked in a tree?

I don't have a GNX.

And why would I want to discuss my GN with you?

Someone asshead said I drive a Dodge.

I just corrected that nonsense.

So you couldn't afford a GNX?

Or did you just drag a regal out of the junkyard and paint it black and slap some labels on it?

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 12 2010,23:15   

Besides Joe, I don't remember saying that you drove a Dodge.  I do remember you muttering something about a Buick GN and responding to that.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 13 2010,01:14   

Quote (blipey @ Mar. 12 2010,21:02)
JoeTard now claims that it is impossible for rocks to be baseball sized!!!  In other news, bread boxes don't exist...

ID wunderkind destroys the notion of comparative language!

Is that the stupidest thing he's ever said? I know it's a crowded field, but daaaaamn that shit is seriously dumb.  Like way dumber than a box of baseball-sized rocks.

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 13 2010,01:15   

I just watched a couple of episodes of "The Office" and realized that Joe G. is actually Dwight.

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 13 2010,02:27   

Quote (fnxtr @ Mar. 12 2010,23:15)
I just watched a couple of episodes of "The Office" and realized that Joe G. is actually Dwight.

Actually, he's Gareth Keenan.

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 13 2010,07:11   

Quote (blipey @ Mar. 12 2010,23:02)
JoeTard now claims that it is impossible for rocks to be baseball sized!!!  In other news, bread boxes don't exist...

ID wunderkind destroys the notion of comparative language!

blipey, I'm so glad that you have the mental shielding needed to engage cakeboy on his blog. You deserve a medal, for sure. That exchange is a tardification classic!

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 13 2010,09:05   

Can I say (honestly) how much I like Joe G's "Captain America" avatar?  It actually corresponds to his image of himself: a perfect patriot, recipient of Super-Soldier Serum, person at the maximum of human potential.  This is a person who thinks, without irony, that he's smarter and more American than anybody else.  

I love the avatar, Joe: a perfect complement to your unlimited self-regard.  

MMMMwwwah! XOXOXO

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 13 2010,09:23   

Quote (Hermagoras @ Mar. 13 2010,10:05)
Can I say (honestly) how much I like Joe G's "Captain America" avatar?  It actually corresponds to his image of himself: a perfect patriot, recipient of Super-Soldier Serum, person at the maximum of human potential.  This is a person who thinks, without irony, that he's smarter and more American than anybody else.  

I love the avatar, Joe: a perfect complement to your unlimited self-regard.  

MMMMwwwah! XOXOXO

The avatar captures his cartoonish essence.

(Contra the inherent dignity of a University 'reciprocating flare' midrange horn, circa 1952.)

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 13 2010,09:25   

Quote (Hermagoras @ Mar. 13 2010,07:05)
Can I say (honestly) how much I like Joe G's "Captain America" avatar?

Is that what it is?

I thought it was his Ass Hat.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 13 2010,11:14   

Quote (Albatrossity2 @ Mar. 13 2010,07:11)
     
Quote (blipey @ Mar. 12 2010,23:02)
JoeTard now claims that it is impossible for rocks to be baseball sized!!!  In other news, bread boxes don't exist...

ID wunderkind destroys the notion of comparative language!

blipey, I'm so glad that you have the mental shielding needed to engage cakeboy on his blog. You deserve a medal, for sure. That exchange is a tardification classic!

Wow. Just wow.

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Joe G: So how the fuck can a piece of granite be baseball-sized?

Yes, blipey has done us all a great service. We salute his memory.



Oh, he survived? Really? Doesn't seem possible. What he must have endured!

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 13 2010,12:22   

That thread is a gem.  Joe redefines size to include weight and teaches us how science must be conducted:
 
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Joe: So how the fuck can a piece of granite be baseball-sized?

Thorton: It can be a sphere with a circumference between 9 and 9 1/4 inches, same as an actual baseball.

Joe: Then it would weigh more than a baseball which means it is not "baseball-size".

blipey: If a shoe box is 5" X 8" X 14" and I have a loaf of bread that is 5" X 8" X 14", it is perfectly acceptable to say that the loaf of bread is the size of a shoebox.

Joe: I disagree. Well perhaps it is OK to say that in an informal gathering of imbeciles- perhaps even a formal gathering.  But never in a scientific setting- never when discussing science.  It is OK to say y=the shoe box and loaf of bread have the same dimensions.  But if they do not weigh the same then they are not the same size.


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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 13 2010,12:42   

The debate over baseball-size reminds me of a very long debate with a creationist who denied that a circle is an ellipse.

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 13 2010,12:49   

Quote (olegt @ Mar. 13 2010,13:22)
That thread is a gem.  Joe redefines size to include weight and teaches us how science must be conducted:
 
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Joe: So how the fuck can a piece of granite be baseball-sized?

Thorton: It can be a sphere with a circumference between 9 and 9 1/4 inches, same as an actual baseball.

Joe: Then it would weigh more than a baseball which means it is not "baseball-size".

blipey: If a shoe box is 5" X 8" X 14" and I have a loaf of bread that is 5" X 8" X 14", it is perfectly acceptable to say that the loaf of bread is the size of a shoebox.

Joe: I disagree. Well perhaps it is OK to say that in an informal gathering of imbeciles- perhaps even a formal gathering.  But never in a scientific setting- never when discussing science.  It is OK to say y=the shoe box and loaf of bread have the same dimensions.  But if they do not weigh the same then they are not the same size.

New sig!

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 13 2010,13:06   

Quote (olegt @ Mar. 13 2010,13:22)
That thread is a gem.  Joe redefines size to include weight and teaches us how science must be conducted:
   
Quote

Joe: So how the fuck can a piece of granite be baseball-sized?

Thorton: It can be a sphere with a circumference between 9 and 9 1/4 inches, same as an actual baseball.

Joe: Then it would weigh more than a baseball which means it is not "baseball-size".

blipey: If a shoe box is 5" X 8" X 14" and I have a loaf of bread that is 5" X 8" X 14", it is perfectly acceptable to say that the loaf of bread is the size of a shoebox.

Joe: I disagree. Well perhaps it is OK to say that in an informal gathering of imbeciles- perhaps even a formal gathering.  But never in a scientific setting- never when discussing science.  It is OK to say y=the shoe box and loaf of bread have the same dimensions.  But if they do not weigh the same then they are not the same size.

I've been wondering about the reciprocal.

Do one kilogram of cake and one kilogram of aardvark weigh the same? I say they can't, because they aren't the same size.

Cake, boy.

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 13 2010,13:47   

"When I use a word... " etc...

Apparently size=mass.  Or maybe density. Or something.

So our sun will still be approximately the same "size" when it becomes a red giant and consumes our planet.

Good to know.

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 13 2010,14:53   

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Joe G: So how the fuck can a piece of granite be baseball-sized?

Mystery solved! Granite baseball.


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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 13 2010,15:25   

I dunno, but maybe one shouldn't take baseballs for granite?

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 13 2010,15:33   

Quote (Zachriel @ Mar. 13 2010,14:53)
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Joe G: So how the fuck can a piece of granite be baseball-sized?

Mystery solved! Granite baseball.


Click pic for larger image

Silly man - that's obviously a baserockball, probably used by Fred Flintstone when he roamed with the dinosaurs after the Earth was created 6,000 years ago.  Which proves ID, of course!

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 13 2010,19:25   

Off topic - What happened to the forum?  D.O.S. attack?

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 13 2010,20:07   

Quote (khan @ Mar. 13 2010,12:49)
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That thread is a gem.  Joe redefines size to include weight and teaches us how science must be conducted:
   
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Joe: So how the fuck can a piece of granite be baseball-sized?

Thorton: It can be a sphere with a circumference between 9 and 9 1/4 inches, same as an actual baseball.

Joe: Then it would weigh more than a baseball which means it is not "baseball-size".

blipey: If a shoe box is 5" X 8" X 14" and I have a loaf of bread that is 5" X 8" X 14", it is perfectly acceptable to say that the loaf of bread is the size of a shoebox.

Joe: I disagree. Well perhaps it is OK to say that in an informal gathering of imbeciles- perhaps even a formal gathering.  But never in a scientific setting- never when discussing science.  It is OK to say y=the shoe box and loaf of bread have the same dimensions.  But if they do not weigh the same then they are not the same size.

New sig!

Joe gives good sig.  khan, I wish I'd seen that before you.

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 13 2010,20:32   

Meanwhile, back at the ranch, Joe points out places where size=mass and expresses hope that this is a universal phenomenon:
 
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blipey: In what world does the word "size" mean "weight"?

Joe: In boxing, UFC, wrestling- most sports.  I am sure it has a bearing in mechanics too, as well as electronics.  I am sure in science it is perfectly normal to answer the question of size with that of mass... Size is both.  Educated people have a big word- we use DIMENSIONS- if that is what we wish to convey.


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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 13 2010,20:51   

Quote (olegt @ Mar. 13 2010,20:32)
Meanwhile, back at the ranch, Joe points out places where size=mass and expresses hope that this is a universal phenomenon:
   
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blipey: In what world does the word "size" mean "weight"?

Joe: In boxing, UFC, wrestling- most sports.  I am sure it has a bearing in mechanics too, as well as electronics.  I am sure in science it is perfectly normal to answer the question of size with that of mass... Size is both.  Educated people have a big word- we use DIMENSIONS- if that is what we wish to convey.

Of course, boxers are sorted by weight class, which Joe attempts to define as a combination of height, weight, and anywhere from 13 - 73% reach?

JoeTard:
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The boxer's size is a combo- height/ weight with a little reach thrown in.


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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 14 2010,04:21   

Quote (blipey @ Mar. 13 2010,20:51)
 
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Meanwhile, back at the ranch, Joe points out places where size=mass and expresses hope that this is a universal phenomenon:
       
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blipey: In what world does the word "size" mean "weight"?

Joe: In boxing, UFC, wrestling- most sports.  I am sure it has a bearing in mechanics too, as well as electronics.  I am sure in science it is perfectly normal to answer the question of size with that of mass... Size is both.  Educated people have a big word- we use DIMENSIONS- if that is what we wish to convey.

Of course, boxers are sorted by weight class, which Joe attempts to define as a combination of height, weight, and anywhere from 13 - 73% reach?

JoeTard:    
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The boxer's size is a combo- height/ weight with a little reach thrown in.

Seems Joe G over-reached himself this time.

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 14 2010,06:22   

Quote (Quack @ Mar. 14 2010,01:21)
Quote (blipey @ Mar. 13 2010,20:51)
   
Quote (olegt @ Mar. 13 2010,20:32)
Meanwhile, back at the ranch, Joe points out places where size=mass and expresses hope that this is a universal phenomenon:
       
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blipey: In what world does the word "size" mean "weight"?

Joe: In boxing, UFC, wrestling- most sports.  I am sure it has a bearing in mechanics too, as well as electronics.  I am sure in science it is perfectly normal to answer the question of size with that of mass... Size is both.  Educated people have a big word- we use DIMENSIONS- if that is what we wish to convey.

Of course, boxers are sorted by weight class, which Joe attempts to define as a combination of height, weight, and anywhere from 13 - 73% reach?

JoeTard:      
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The boxer's size is a combo- height/ weight with a little reach thrown in.

Seems Joe G over-reached himself this time.

What do mean "this time"?

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 14 2010,08:12   

Perhaps Joe's conceptual muddle vis size has the same origins as this old joke:

Q: Why are women so bad at measurement?

A: They're constantly told that this is six inches (finger and thumb four inches apart).

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 14 2010,08:35   

To set the record straight, boxers are classified by measuring their CSI. This is accomplished by counting the number of characters contained in their minimal descriptions:

Wiki introductions will do:

Foreman:
 
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George Edward Foreman (born January 10, 1949) is an American two-time former World Heavyweight Boxing Champion, Olympic gold medalist, and successful entrepreneur.

He became the oldest man ever to become heavyweight boxing champion of the world when, at age 45, he knocked out Michael Moorer, age 26, to reclaim the title he held 20 years earlier. He has been named one of the 25 greatest fighters of all time by Ring magazine. Nicknamed "Big George" he is now a successful businessman and an ordained Christian minister who has his own church.

Foreman has 10 children, and each of his five sons are named George: George Jr., George III, George IV, George V and George VI. His four older sons are distinguished from one another by the nicknames "Monk", "Big Wheel", "Red" and "Little George."

Foreman is ranked #9 on Ring magazine's list of "100 greatest punchers of all time". He is also well-known for the eponymous George Foreman Grill.

Ali:
 
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Muhammad Ali (born Cassius Marcellus Clay Jr.; January 17, 1942) is a retired American boxer and three-time World Heavyweight Champion, who is widely considered one of the greatest heavyweight championship boxers of all time. As an amateur, he won a gold medal in the light heavyweight division at the 1960 Summer Olympics in Rome. After turning professional, he went on to become the first boxer to win the lineal heavyweight championship three times.

Originally known as Cassius Clay, Ali changed his name after joining the Nation of Islam in 1964, subsequently converting to Sunni Islam in 1975. In 1967, Ali refused to be inducted into the U.S. military based on his religious beliefs and opposition to the Vietnam War. He was arrested and found guilty on draft evasion charges, stripped of his boxing title, and his boxing license was suspended. He was not imprisoned, but did not fight again for nearly four years while his appeal worked its way up to the U.S. Supreme Court, where it was successful.

Nicknamed "The Greatest", Ali was involved in several historic boxing matches. Notable among these are three with rival Joe Frazier and one with George Foreman, whom he beat by knockout to win the world heavyweight title for the second time. He suffered only five losses (four decisions and one TKO by retirement from the bout) with no draws in his career, while amassing 56 wins (37 knockouts and 19 decisions). Ali was well known for his unorthodox fighting style, which he described as "float like a butterfly, sting like a bee", and employing techniques such as the rope-a-dope. He was also known for his pre-match hype, where he would "trash talk" opponents on television and in person some time before the match, often with rhymes. These personality quips, idioms along with an unorthodox fighting technique made him a cultural icon. In later life, Ali developed Parkinson's disease. In 1999, Ali was crowned "Sportsman of the Century" by Sports Illustrated and "Sports Personality of the Century" by the BBC.

Forman is defined in 936 characters and hence contains a minimum of 4680 bits of CSI. Ali is defined by 2020 characters and hence he contains a minimum of 10100 bits of CSI.

They should never have been in the same ring.

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 14 2010,11:41   

Boxing weight classes


MMA weight classes

Just weight.  No height, no reach.

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 14 2010,12:35   

This is the question by Thornton that started it all

   
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Hey Joe,

Suppose I am out hiking and find a really neat rounded granite river rock the size and shape of baseball. How do I calculate the CSI in it, or tell if it has any CSI at all?

I like it so much I hire a master stonemason to make me an identical copy. This requires I draw up a detailed BOM for the material composition, size, shape, etc. plus detailed specifications for the carving instructions. The copy obviously has lots of 'CSI' since it came from a detailed plan, right?

When the copy is done it is absolutely indistinguishable from the original. Then, clumsy me drops the two and gets them mixed up. How can I measure the CSI to tell the naturally occurring original from the highly specified copy?


I've seen Joe G say lots of incredibly stupid things in my day, but having him claim a rock can't be the size of a baseball just to avoid any discussion of measuring CSI has to be at the very top.

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 14 2010,12:51   

Joe,

There are many plaster cast copies of Michelangelo's David in existence. They weigh less than the six-ton marble original; solid marble weighs 160 lbs per cubic foot, while plaster weighs 53 lbs per cubic foot.  If I understand you correctly, you are saying that although they are of identical physical dimensions and displace identical volumes of identical shape, plaster-cast David and the original David are NOT the same size. Any one who says otherwise is both an idiot and an asshole.

So, Joe, if a precise plaster cast copy of David is NOT, by your definition, the same size as the original David, how much taller would such a plaster cast David have to be than the actual David to be the same size as the actual David?

(Somehow, this question makes sense to you.)

Show your work.

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 14 2010,13:16   

Quote (fnxtr @ Mar. 13 2010,13:47)
"When I use a word... " etc...

Apparently size=mass.  Or maybe density. Or something.

So our sun will still be approximately the same "size" when it becomes a red giant and consumes our planet.

Good to know.

Dwight: humourless, self-important, and completely detached from reality.

F: I agree with you... Joe G = Dwight.  

To carry the Office thing further, Dembski = Michael Scot.  Clueless, self-important, thinks he's smart, but he's not.  

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 14 2010,16:27   

Quote (Reciprocating Bill @ Mar. 14 2010,12:51)
Joe,

There are many plaster cast copies of Michelangelo's David in existence. They weigh less than the six-ton marble original; solid marble weighs 160 lbs per cubic foot, while plaster weighs 53 lbs per cubic foot.  If I understand you correctly, you are saying that although they are of identical physical dimensions and displace identical volumes of identical shape, plaster-cast David and the original David are NOT the same size. Any one who says otherwise is both an idiot and an asshole.

So, Joe, if a precise plaster cast copy of David is NOT, by your definition, the same size as the original David, how much taller would such a plaster cast David have to be than the actual David to be the same size as the actual David?

(Somehow, this question makes sense to you.)

Show your work.

I point out the first bold passage to predict Joe's answer:

"You couldn't understand what a 13 year old understands, asshole".

I point out the second bold passage as evidence for POtW!!!

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 14 2010,16:52   

Presumably, a plaster replica of David would be as small as the original.

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 14 2010,19:14   

Is someone going to ask Joe which is heavier, a pound of feathers or a pound of lead?

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 14 2010,19:37   

It probably depends on how compressed each of them is at the time.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 14 2010,20:50   

I think the problem here is that Joe G's family tree doesn't have any branches in it. Just when I thought no one could be more stupid than Byers and IBelieveInBullshitandFairytales, I accidentally stumble onto this head full of spaghetti and meatballs. It's a great comedy routine, Joe. Keep it up.

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 14 2010,22:28   

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In that case, pasta la vista!

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 15 2010,20:51   

JoeTard:  
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Ya see Throton said it was a baseball-sized rock.

Yet that doesn't make any sense.

A piece of granite with the circumferance of a baseball would weigh much more.

And a piece of granite that weighed the same as a baseball would be smaller.

So how the fuck can a piece of granite be baseball-sized?


Later JoeTard:
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Hail could be golf-ball sized.


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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 15 2010,21:27   

That must be because

SGgolfball = 0.91*




*&#961 is rho in html 4.0 but doesn't work here, apparently.

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 16 2010,15:33   

Tardgasm over, but boy is he cranky now over at 'intelligent reasoning'. You're supposed to cuddle or roll over and go to sleep, Joe.

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 16 2010,16:21   

In his hurry to derail any effort to use CSI to do anything at all, Joe forgets that ice floats and golf balls sink.

Because, of course, they aren't the same size.

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 16 2010,16:27   

He tries to sneak a bit of YEC apologetics into the post before...

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 16 2010,16:53   

Anyone looking for a sig?

Joe G:
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Hail is made out of water?

Are you really that stupid?


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