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Louis



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 29 2010,12:27   

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Dang, he came back and I was too busy at work.

Oh well, he's just a great steaming pile of putrid pachyderm pustulance who's too scared to answer a simple question like 'how to calculate CSI?'.

I guess the fact that Dembski can't answer it either shouldn't inspire to suggest that such a pitiful example of the misery of the human condition could answer such a simple little question.

I guess fame and fortune will never amass to Joe, for he lost all the money he was going to use for research in buying up Grand Nationals when he heard they were 'destined to be a classic'.

So very, very sad.

Why Joe, I had such high hope for you, being the expert in ID and all and lying at the feet (ahem) of the master (in baiting), would explain such an absurdly simple concept as 'how do you calculate specified complexity?'

You don't calculate CSI you measure it.

Well you measure the specified information to see if CSI is present.

Measure it or calculate it, whatever the hell your supposed to do, you still can't show us you can do anything with it because it is utter meaningless wank, unlike genuine information theory.

Fixed that for you.

;-)

Louis

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Joe G



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 29 2010,12:58   

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Joe G:
   
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Hail is made out of water?

Are you really that stupid?

Hail is made out of ice.

Rain is water.

Retardation runs deep at atbc...

Ice is water that has frozen, water is a chemical substance composed of hydrogen and oxygen.  Water doesn't stop being water when its temperature drops and it enters a solid phase, equally it doesn't stop being water when it boils (which is why they call it water vapor) - All three phases of the substance are forms of WATER.

Hail is made from water, just like rain.

Water is a liquid.

Hail is not a liquid, is it?

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BTW: Joe, our position (i.e. evolution) does NOT require that there existed a species of ape-humans with 47 chromosomes.-Kevin McCarthy, ignorant of genetics

   
Joe G



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 29 2010,13:00   

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Dang, he came back and I was too busy at work.

Oh well, he's just a great steaming pile of putrid pachyderm pustulance who's too scared to answer a simple question like 'how to calculate CSI?'.

I guess the fact that Dembski can't answer it either shouldn't inspire to suggest that such a pitiful example of the misery of the human condition could answer such a simple little question.

I guess fame and fortune will never amass to Joe, for he lost all the money he was going to use for research in buying up Grand Nationals when he heard they were 'destined to be a classic'.

So very, very sad.

Why Joe, I had such high hope for you, being the expert in ID and all and lying at the feet (ahem) of the master (in baiting), would explain such an absurdly simple concept as 'how do you calculate specified complexity?'

You don't calculate CSI you measure it.

Well you measure the specified information to see if CSI is present.

Excellent.  What device do we use to measure the specified information?  What units is specified information measured in?

Pick any three objects, organisms, or material structures and measure their specified information.  Please explain why you measured them that way and why the results are as they are.

kthnx

measuring information/ specified complexity

And if you have something to say then post it on my blog.

This forum isn't a place for a discussion.

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Chromosomes. are. all. connected. It is one long polymer. Called the DNA. - oleg t


BTW: Joe, our position (i.e. evolution) does NOT require that there existed a species of ape-humans with 47 chromosomes.-Kevin McCarthy, ignorant of genetics

   
Joe G



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 29 2010,13:02   

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Joe G:
   
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Hail is made out of water?

Are you really that stupid?

Hail is made out of ice.

Rain is water.

Retardation runs deep at atbc...

Ice is water that has frozen, water is a chemical substance composed of hydrogen and oxygen.  Water doesn't stop being water when its temperature drops and it enters a solid phase, equally it doesn't stop being water when it boils (which is why they call it water vapor) - All three phases of the substance are forms of WATER.

Hail is made from water, just like rain.

OK let me hit you with a water balloon- liquid water.

Then let me take an ice ball and hit you with that.

I bet you will be able to tell the difference- or maybe not as you are brain-dead...

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Chromosomes. are. all. connected. It is one long polymer. Called the DNA. - oleg t


BTW: Joe, our position (i.e. evolution) does NOT require that there existed a species of ape-humans with 47 chromosomes.-Kevin McCarthy, ignorant of genetics

   
Joe G



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 29 2010,13:04   

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Dang, he came back and I was too busy at work.

Oh well, he's just a great steaming pile of putrid pachyderm pustulance who's too scared to answer a simple question like 'how to calculate CSI?'.

I guess the fact that Dembski can't answer it either shouldn't inspire to suggest that such a pitiful example of the misery of the human condition could answer such a simple little question.

I guess fame and fortune will never amass to Joe, for he lost all the money he was going to use for research in buying up Grand Nationals when he heard they were 'destined to be a classic'.

So very, very sad.

Why Joe, I had such high hope for you, being the expert in ID and all and lying at the feet (ahem) of the master (in baiting), would explain such an absurdly simple concept as 'how do you calculate specified complexity?'

You don't calculate CSI you measure it.

Well you measure the specified information to see if CSI is present.

Measure it or calculate it, whatever the hell you're supposed to do, you still can't show us you can do anything with it.

ETA: spelling

Information Technology assface.

You couldn't have it without CSI.

Communication- couldn't have it without specified information.

IOW assface you can't do anything without it.

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BTW: Joe, our position (i.e. evolution) does NOT require that there existed a species of ape-humans with 47 chromosomes.-Kevin McCarthy, ignorant of genetics

   
ppb



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 29 2010,13:05   

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Joe G:
     
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Hail is made out of water?

Are you really that stupid?

Hail is made out of ice.

Rain is water.

Retardation runs deep at atbc...

Ice is water that has frozen, water is a chemical substance composed of hydrogen and oxygen.  Water doesn't stop being water when its temperature drops and it enters a solid phase, equally it doesn't stop being water when it boils (which is why they call it water vapor) - All three phases of the substance are forms of WATER.

Hail is made from water, just like rain.

Water is a liquid.

Hail is not a liquid, is it?

Water is a molecule.  Liquid is a state.  Understand the difference?

Edited for clarity.

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Wolfhound



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 29 2010,13:17   

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Dang, he came back and I was too busy at work.

Oh well, he's just a great steaming pile of putrid pachyderm pustulance who's too scared to answer a simple question like 'how to calculate CSI?'.

I guess the fact that Dembski can't answer it either shouldn't inspire to suggest that such a pitiful example of the misery of the human condition could answer such a simple little question.

I guess fame and fortune will never amass to Joe, for he lost all the money he was going to use for research in buying up Grand Nationals when he heard they were 'destined to be a classic'.

So very, very sad.

Why Joe, I had such high hope for you, being the expert in ID and all and lying at the feet (ahem) of the master (in baiting), would explain such an absurdly simple concept as 'how do you calculate specified complexity?'

You don't calculate CSI you measure it.

Well you measure the specified information to see if CSI is present.

Excellent.  What device do we use to measure the specified information?  What units is specified information measured in?

Pick any three objects, organisms, or material structures and measure their specified information.  Please explain why you measured them that way and why the results are as they are.

kthnx

measuring information/ specified complexity

And if you have something to say then post it on my blog.

This forum isn't a place for a discussion.

Yes, indeed, so please feel free to fuck off.  Kaythnxbye!

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ppb



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 29 2010,13:18   

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Dang, he came back and I was too busy at work.

Oh well, he's just a great steaming pile of putrid pachyderm pustulance who's too scared to answer a simple question like 'how to calculate CSI?'.

I guess the fact that Dembski can't answer it either shouldn't inspire to suggest that such a pitiful example of the misery of the human condition could answer such a simple little question.

I guess fame and fortune will never amass to Joe, for he lost all the money he was going to use for research in buying up Grand Nationals when he heard they were 'destined to be a classic'.

So very, very sad.

Why Joe, I had such high hope for you, being the expert in ID and all and lying at the feet (ahem) of the master (in baiting), would explain such an absurdly simple concept as 'how do you calculate specified complexity?'

You don't calculate CSI you measure it.

Well you measure the specified information to see if CSI is present.

Excellent.  What device do we use to measure the specified information?  What units is specified information measured in?

Pick any three objects, organisms, or material structures and measure their specified information.  Please explain why you measured them that way and why the results are as they are.

kthnx

measuring information/ specified complexity

And if you have something to say then post it on my blog.

This forum isn't a place for a discussion.

Is that the best example of CSI measurement you can come up with?  Doing a word count of a dictionary definition?  How does that tell you anything about anything?

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Louis



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 29 2010,13:37   

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Dang, he came back and I was too busy at work.

Oh well, he's just a great steaming pile of putrid pachyderm pustulance who's too scared to answer a simple question like 'how to calculate CSI?'.

I guess the fact that Dembski can't answer it either shouldn't inspire to suggest that such a pitiful example of the misery of the human condition could answer such a simple little question.

I guess fame and fortune will never amass to Joe, for he lost all the money he was going to use for research in buying up Grand Nationals when he heard they were 'destined to be a classic'.

So very, very sad.

Why Joe, I had such high hope for you, being the expert in ID and all and lying at the feet (ahem) of the master (in baiting), would explain such an absurdly simple concept as 'how do you calculate specified complexity?'

You don't calculate CSI you measure it.

Well you measure the specified information to see if CSI is present.

Excellent.  What device do we use to measure the specified information?  What units is specified information measured in?

Pick any three objects, organisms, or material structures and measure their specified information.  Please explain why you measured them that way and why the results are as they are.

kthnx

measuring information/ specified complexity

And if you have something to say then post it on my blog.

This forum isn't a place for a discussion.

Looks like the impotent little ID puppy is afraid of anywhere he can't ban people for disagreeing with him. Pity the puppy for he is stupid.

Come on puppy, bark for the big boys.

Louis

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Reciprocating Bill



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 29 2010,13:39   

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Hail is made out of water?

Are you really that stupid?

Hail is made out of ice.

Rain is water.

Retardation runs deep at atbc...

Ice is water that has frozen, water is a chemical substance composed of hydrogen and oxygen.  Water doesn't stop being water when its temperature drops and it enters a solid phase, equally it doesn't stop being water when it boils (which is why they call it water vapor) - All three phases of the substance are forms of WATER.

Hail is made from water, just like rain.

Water is a liquid.

Hail is not a liquid, is it?

OMFG.

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 29 2010,13:41   

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*snip*
And if you have something to say then post it on my blog.

This forum isn't a place for a discussion.

Yes indeed. One of the problems here is that all the comments get through and there is no pre-moderation.

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 29 2010,13:54   

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Hail is made from water, just like rain.

Water is a liquid.

Hail is not a liquid, is it?


Undistributed muddle.

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Louis



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 29 2010,14:04   

Quote (Richardthughes @ Mar. 29 2010,18:41)
Quote (Joe G @ Mar. 29 2010,13:00)
*snip*
And if you have something to say then post it on my blog.

This forum isn't a place for a discussion.

Yes indeed. One of the problems here is that all the comments get through and there is no pre-moderation.

And dissent doesn't get you banned. Nor does Joe control the ban hammer. Both of which, you have to admit, are really big barriers to {ahem} "discussion". Because Joe is clearly alllllllll about intellectual discourse.

Mind you, for all his faults, poking him with a stick and watching him froth at the mouth is hilarious. There's a scence in the movie Snatch where the character Brick Top is trying to train a dog for illegal dog fighting. The dog is in a cage and Brick Top is poking the poor pooch very hard with a walking stick. The comment he makes about this dog is "...Shits himself when you put him in the ring, but poke him with a stick, you watch his bollocks grow."

This is very much like our Joey. He's fuck all use in an actual argument, but if you poke him a few times with a few comments he acts as though he's got a pair of balls. Pity it's just an act on his part, as he is the very epitome of a noisy little nutless wonder.

Louis

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keiths



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 29 2010,14:14   

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...he is the very epitome of a noisy little nutless wonder.

But he's our noisy little nutless wonder, and by Allah, we love him.

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 29 2010,14:20   

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Ice is water that has frozen, water is a chemical substance composed of hydrogen and oxygen.  Water doesn't stop being water when its temperature drops and it enters a solid phase, equally it doesn't stop being water when it boils (which is why they call it water vapor) - All three phases of the substance are forms of WATER.

Hail is made from water, just like rain.

No!  It is called steam.  Not the same as water.  Or ice.

QED  (That is latin for "you are a dumbass")

wikipedia:
   
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Water is a ubiquitous chemical substance that is composed of hydrogen and oxygen and is vital for all known forms of life.[1]

In typical usage, water refers only to its liquid form or state, but the substance also has a solid state, ice, and a gaseous state, water vapor or steam. Water covers 71% of the Earth's surface.[2] On Earth, it is found mostly in oceans and other large water bodies, with 1.6% of water below ground in aquifers and 0.001% in the air as vapor, clouds (formed of solid and liquid water particles suspended in air), and precipitation.[3] Oceans hold 97% of surface water, glaciers and polar ice caps 2.4%, and other land surface water such as rivers, lakes and ponds 0.6%. A very small amount of the Earth's water is contained within biological bodies and manufactured products.

Well, there is your problem. You are quoting wiki-dope-ea.  You also have a problem with reading comprehension. Note that it says water vapor or steam.  "Or" means it can't be both, dipshit.  Therefore, steam is not water.

It is no wonder evolution is a dead theory, with jokes like you advocating for it.

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 29 2010,14:50   

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Joe G:
     
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Hail is made out of water?

Are you really that stupid?

Hail is made out of ice.

Rain is water.

Retardation runs deep at atbc...

Ice is water that has frozen, water is a chemical substance composed of hydrogen and oxygen.  Water doesn't stop being water when its temperature drops and it enters a solid phase, equally it doesn't stop being water when it boils (which is why they call it water vapor) - All three phases of the substance are forms of WATER.

Hail is made from water, just like rain.

Water is a liquid.

Hail is not a liquid, is it?

Apparently Joe didn't make it out of 3rd Grade.

Is it really possible someone can be this persistently stupid and impervious to learning rudimentary knowledge.

Joe G has to be the most complex (and specific) Poe ever perpetrated anywhere.

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Louis



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 29 2010,14:52   

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Quote (Louis @ Mar. 29 2010,12:04)
...he is the very epitome of a noisy little nutless wonder.

But he's our noisy little nutless wonder, and by Allah, we love him.

By Brahma surely?

;-)

Louis

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Tony M Nyphot



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 29 2010,14:58   

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measuring information/ specified complexity

Hey Poe-Joe,

I read your post. I have a simple question for clarification.

Was the CSI you measured in your example contained in :
  1. the word "aardvark",
  2. the definition of that word,
  3. or in an actual aardvark?

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BillB



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 29 2010,15:37   

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Hail is made from water, just like rain.

Water is a liquid.

Hail is not a liquid, is it?


Undistributed muddle.

Is butter a liquid?
Is cement a liquid?
Is glass a liquid?
And what about pitch?

......

At what temperature is water a liquid?

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 29 2010,15:40   

Does it really matter all that much if "water" is defined as the substance H2O or as the substance H2O in its liquid state?

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 29 2010,15:40   

Quote (Tony M Nyphot @ Mar. 29 2010,12:50)
Apparently Joe didn't make it out of 3rd Grade.

Is it really possible someone can be this persistently stupid and impervious to learning rudimentary knowledge.

Joe G has to be the most complex (and specific) Poe ever perpetrated anywhere.

Before I took up tardwatching, I'd have said "No.  No-one could be that stupid.  They'd have forgotten to breathe by now."

Now, I'm not so sure.  I think "stupid" is more plausible than "Poe".  And I feel more optimistic for the future of humanity to think there are a few people this stupid, than to think there are a few people who get their jollies pretending to be this stupid.

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Henry J



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 29 2010,15:41   

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At what temperature is water a liquid?

Depends on the pressure. ;)

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 29 2010,15:52   

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At what temperature is water a liquid?

Depends on the pressure. ;)

And on any solutes or particulates it might contain. Frankly it's all too complicated for Joe the Junkyard dog. I suggest he goes for a lie down.

Louis

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 29 2010,17:46   

Joe... I'll use small words.

Aardvark is not the animal.
Aardvark is random string of symbols used to represent the animal.
Aardvark is a poor way of identifying an animal species and an even poorer way of defining an individual animal.

To properly define the species, you need the scientific name of the animal species.

To properly define an individual, you need a very specific set of characters that uniquely identify that animal as compared to any other individual that may look like it.

So when you count the letters in the word, you're just wanking.

BTW: I already digested and hocked up your blog post.  It was stupid (as shown above).

So WHAT DO YOU MEASURE and WHAT UNITS DO YOU USE?

Or maybe you don't understand the word 'measure'???

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 29 2010,17:46   

Quote (Tony M Nyphot @ Mar. 29 2010,12:58)
Quote (Joe G @ Mar. 29 2010,12:00)

measuring information/ specified complexity

Hey Poe-Joe,

I read your post. I have a simple question for clarification.

Was the CSI you measured in your example contained in :
  1. the word "aardvark",
  2. the definition of that word,
  3. or in an actual aardvark?

Is there more CSI if the definition is in French? German? Czech?  

What's the CSI in ASL, GI Joe?

Is it different from the CSI in English?

Why, or why not? How did you measure/calculate/invent it?

Does a bigger aardvark have more CSI than a smaller one? How about age? Does age affect CSI? What if one's just eaten a big pile of ants, and another hasn't eaten in 3 days? How much more CSI is in the full one?

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 29 2010,18:30   

Quote (fnxtr @ Mar. 29 2010,15:46)
Quote (Tony M Nyphot @ Mar. 29 2010,12:58)
Quote (Joe G @ Mar. 29 2010,12:00)

measuring information/ specified complexity

Hey Poe-Joe,

I read your post. I have a simple question for clarification.

Was the CSI you measured in your example contained in :
  1. the word "aardvark",
  2. the definition of that word,
  3. or in an actual aardvark?

Is there more CSI if the definition is in French? German? Czech?  

What's the CSI in ASL, GI Joe?

Is it different from the CSI in English?

Why, or why not? How did you measure/calculate/invent it?

Does a bigger aardvark have more CSI than a smaller one? How about age? Does age affect CSI? What if one's just eaten a big pile of ants, and another hasn't eaten in 3 days? How much more CSI is in the full one?

What if we freeze the aardvark?

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 29 2010,19:19   

OOOOOOHHHHH!!!  Can I play, too?

JoeTard, do you breathe air?  If so, do you breathe it both inside and outside?  In France and in New Hampshire?  In a submarine?  On Mt. McKinley?

How 'bout it, Joe?  Air?  Do you breathe it?

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 29 2010,20:56   

Quote (Joe G @ Mar. 29 2010,13:00)
 
Quote (OgreMkV @ Mar. 29 2010,12:14)
What device do we use to measure the specified information?  What units is specified information measured in?

Pick any three objects, organisms, or material structures and measure their specified information.  Please explain why you measured them that way and why the results are as they are.

measuring information/ specified complexity

And if you have something to say then post it on my blog.

This forum isn't a place for a discussion.

Hi, Joe! I read that blog-post of yours, and I have submitted a reply. Blogger thought it was too long for one reply, so I had to submit it in two parts, both of which await your approval before they can see the light of blog, I mean "day".

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 29 2010,21:25   

Hi John,
Quote (JohnW @ Mar. 29 2010,18:30)

What if we freeze the aardvark?

I broke out laughing so hard I had to try to explain it to her.

I think I failed miserably.

I still think it was a great comment.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 29 2010,23:48   

Quote (JohnW @ Mar. 29 2010,18:30)

What if we freeze the aardvark?

Hey! At the aardvark triple point, we have, simultaneously, liquid aardvark, solid aardvark, and a snootful of aardvark gas.
Barkeep - gimme a pint of that there aardvark!

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