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Richardthughes



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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 12 2012,11:50   

Quote (Joe G @ Aug. 12 2012,11:39)
thorton/ occam's asshole/ fartmax

How many other socks do you have?

Jim, ID guys and John Paul?

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Joe G



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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 12 2012,11:52   

Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Aug. 12 2012,11:44)
Quote (Joe G @ Aug. 12 2012,11:33)
I just pointed out that is incorrect as the variations can directly affect fitness, so they can't be random wrt it.

Please explain fatty JoeTard - genetic variations can affect fitness from extremely deleterious to extremely beneficial, and you have no way of knowing beforehand what the effects will be.  How then are the variations not random wrt fitness?

See if you can put that other fatty foot in your stupid mouth.

Please explain, occam's asshole/ thortard/ fartmax/ numerous other cowardly socks, how mutations, which can directly affect fitness- and in many cases fitness DEPENDS on VARIATION- how they can be random with respect to it?

Just because we don't know what the effect will be makes does not mean they are random wrt fitness.

But anyway all that is moot because my original claim is supported by the evolutionaery experts.

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Richardthughes



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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 12 2012,11:53   

Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Aug. 12 2012,11:35)
Quote (Joe G @ Aug. 12 2012,11:24)
 
Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Aug. 12 2012,10:02)
   
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BTW dumbass- some variations help ensure reproductive fitness so they cannot be random wrt it.


LOL!

"some people win money in the lottery, so the lottery drawings can't be random"  

Thanks fatty JoeTard, that one's a keeper!  

It's right up there with your "hail isn't water" claim!  :D :D :D

Umm hail is made up of ICE, dumbass. RAIN is made up of water.

http://www.merriam-webster.com/diction........ain

1 a: water falling in drops condensed from vapor in the atmosphere

http://education.yahoo.com/referen........ail

1 Precipitation in the form of spherical or irregular pellets of ice larger than 5 millimeters (0.2 inches) in diameter

http://education.yahoo.com/referen....en....e

ice:  Water frozen solid. A surface, layer, or mass of frozen water.

fatty JoeTard may be the most stupid person posting on the web.

and if you use her other source for "ice"

http://www.merriam-webster.com/diction....ice

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Definition of ICE
1a : frozen water


Josephine, gossip queen FAIL.

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Joe G



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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 12 2012,11:54   

Quote (Richardthughes @ Aug. 12 2012,11:50)
Quote (Joe G @ Aug. 12 2012,11:39)
thorton/ occam's asshole/ fartmax

How many other socks do you have?

Jim, ID guys and John Paul?

Yup Richie, aka Captain Coward chimes in with its usual cowardly inuendo.

I haven't been part of "John Paul" several years. I have never posted as a "Jim" and ID Guy, well that is just your imagination.

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Joe G



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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 12 2012,11:56   

Quote (Richardthughes @ Aug. 12 2012,11:53)
Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Aug. 12 2012,11:35)
Quote (Joe G @ Aug. 12 2012,11:24)
   
Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Aug. 12 2012,10:02)
   
Quote (Joe G @ Aug. 12 2012,09:55)
BTW dumbass- some variations help ensure reproductive fitness so they cannot be random wrt it.


LOL!

"some people win money in the lottery, so the lottery drawings can't be random"  

Thanks fatty JoeTard, that one's a keeper!  

It's right up there with your "hail isn't water" claim!  :D :D :D

Umm hail is made up of ICE, dumbass. RAIN is made up of water.

http://www.merriam-webster.com/diction........ain

1 a: water falling in drops condensed from vapor in the atmosphere

http://education.yahoo.com/referen........ail

1 Precipitation in the form of spherical or irregular pellets of ice larger than 5 millimeters (0.2 inches) in diameter

http://education.yahoo.com/referen....en....e

ice:  Water frozen solid. A surface, layer, or mass of frozen water.

fatty JoeTard may be the most stupid person posting on the web.

and if you use her other source for "ice"

http://www.merriam-webster.com/diction........ice

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Definition of ICE
1a : frozen water


Josephine, gossip queen FAIL.

Again water is melted ICE, dumbass.

But I get the desperation in trying to say hail is made up of water....

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Joe G



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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 12 2012,11:57   

Quote (midwifetoad @ Aug. 12 2012,11:35)
Joe's mind: where consillience goes to die.

midwifetoad- where syphillis thrives

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Richardthughes



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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 12 2012,12:01   

Joefail:

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that random walk is due to the random mutations/ variations you fucking loser.


http://www.amazon.com/Random-....1000646

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Book Description
Publication Date: September 7, 1993 | ISBN-10: 0691000646 | ISBN-13: 978-0691000640 | Edition: Revised
This book is a lucid, straightforward introduction to the concepts and techniques of statistical physics that students of biology, biochemistry, and biophysics must know. It provides a sound basis for understanding random motions of molecules, subcellular particles, or cells, or of processes that depend on such motion or are markedly affected by it. Readers do not need to understand thermodynamics in order to acquire a knowledge of the physics involved in diffusion, sedimentation, electrophoresis, chromatography, and cell motility--subjects that become lively and immediate when the author discusses them in terms of random walks of individual particles.



But why not search the book for "mutation", Joe:

http://www.amazon.com/Random-....00646#_

Oh right, zero times. Just like your FAILSCORE.

So you've just shown us you have zero comprehension of biology an evolution.


Life is sweet.

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Occam's Aftershave



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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 12 2012,12:02   

Quote (Richardthughes @ Aug. 12 2012,11:50)
Quote (Joe G @ Aug. 12 2012,11:39)
thorton/ occam's asshole/ fartmax

How many other socks do you have?

Jim, ID guys and John Paul?

That wasn't him, that was his father.

DON'T TALK ABOUT JOETARD'S FATHER!!   :D  :D  :D

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Richardthughes



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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 12 2012,12:05   

Quote (Joe G @ Aug. 12 2012,11:54)
Quote (Richardthughes @ Aug. 12 2012,11:50)
Quote (Joe G @ Aug. 12 2012,11:39)
thorton/ occam's asshole/ fartmax

How many other socks do you have?

Jim, ID guys and John Paul?

Yup Richie, aka Captain Coward chimes in with its usual cowardly inuendo.

I haven't been part of "John Paul" several years. I have never posted as a "Jim" and ID Guy, well that is just your imagination.

Which part of him were you in? And you got caught by Oleg 'Being" jim and talking as Joe, you maroon.



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Occam's Aftershave



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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 12 2012,12:05   

Quote (Joe G @ Aug. 12 2012,11:52)
Just because we don't know what the effect will be makes does not mean they are random wrt fitness.

LOL!  I *knew* you could stick that other fatty foot into that stupid mouth!

Keep going fatty JoeTard, you're on a roll!

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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 12 2012,12:07   

Quote (Joe G @ Aug. 12 2012,11:17)
 
Quote (OgreMkV @ Aug. 12 2012,10:23)
So Joe, you haven't answered my questions on your blog, so I'll repost them here.  That way you can run from them in two places.

1) Since certain areas of DNA have a higher than average mutation rate and certain areas of DNA have a lower than average mutation rate, are the mutations over all of the DNA still random?  Explain your answer (you, not a link).

2) Assume two mutations occur.  In one organism, the mutation results in a 10% greater efficiency in oxygen transport in the blood.  In another organism, a mutation results in a 10% greater vulnerability to a particular common virus.  Is the differential survival of one organism over the other random?  Explain your answer (you, not a link).

Fuck you Kevin. YOU need to answer my questions


What questions?  You consistently ask questions that make no sense and have no bearing in reality.  I correct you and then you cry because I don't answer your questions.

Your questions are either unanswerable or meaningless because they don't actually mesh with what the actual science is.  For example, the question "Why don't you support your blind watchmaker hypothesis?"  

The reason I don't answer that question (as has been pointed out to you many, many times) is because I don't have that
'hypothesis'.  Therefore, I don't have to support it.

The fact that you THINK (hah!) that's what my hypothesis is, is of no actual concern to me.

But, I note that you can't actually shut up and you contradict yourself... again.  So, let's explore that OK?
 
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kevbo:
 
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So if one section of DNA has a higher likelihood of mutation than another section... is it still random?


Most likely that is by design.


And you evidence of this is?  
 
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However, in the context of the OP and the theory of evolution, ALL genetic changes are random/ happenstance.


Wrong... sort of.  It depends on how you define your terms, which, you never do.

Certain areas of the bacterial genome can be influenced by outside factors to radically increase the mutation rate.  That is not random, that is a fact of biology.  Further, it only applies to certain areas of the genome, so that's not really random either.

The actual mutation that results.  Yes, that's random.  However, as we shall see, the survival of the bacteria is not random.

 
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Tha is if we listen to evolutionary biologists such as Jerry Coyne, Dawkins and Ernst Mayr.


Quote them, with page numbers, links, and full paragraphs.
 
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if one organism survives because it was born with a gene that increased its muscle efficiency by 0.1%


What is the mutation or mutations?


Doesn't matter.  Why do you think it does?  Because you read the rest of my question and realized that you better start backtracking and distracting as fast as possible?
 
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Or is this just hypothetical?


Doesn't matter.  It's possible, that's all that matter.  And yes, it does happen.  I suggest you start exploring the various differences between the varieties of hemoglobin.
 
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And what does it have to do with the OP? Be specific


Because, you made a very specific claim and your answers to these questions show that you're an idiot.  That's why.

You made the claim that everything with respect to evolution is random.  It isn't, but you can't admit that without realizing that your entire argument is built on a bed of very, very loose sand.
 
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another organism died because it was born with a mutation that left it susceptible to a particular virus



What is the mutation or mutations? And if the virus is never present in that organism's eco-system the organism has no worries.



So, you're saying that the presence of the virus it's vulnerable to is what determines it's survival... I thought you said it was all random?

 
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Survival depends on many variables, Kevin.


No, according to you, survival is completely random.  According to you, evolution is completely random.  I know that you think this because every freaking time over the last 3 years anyone has brought up the concept of differential survival as being non-random, you freak out and cry that it is.

The simple fact that survival is non-random (i.e. based on deterministic factors) destroys your entire view of evolution.

Mutations are random, the locations of mutations may or may not be, selection (by definition) is not random.  Which you have just admitted to.  
 
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However you don't understand genetics not evidence so it is all moot.


I can't even parse this sentence.  I assume it's some kind of mental cutdown.  Coming from someone who thinks "mol" = "molecule" and 'mya' = "millennia years ago", I think everyone will agree that it isn't that much of a cutdown.
 
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That way YOU can run from that in two places.


You think I run?  Seriously?  I've been begging you to have an adult conversation on the subject for 3 years, but you can't.  As we observed during our debate.  I think we both mostly handled that like adults.  The fact that you got your ass handed to you, just made you cry and rant and rave like a 5-year-old who doesn't get his cake.
 
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Why is it that you are too much of a coward to stick with the actual TOPIC?


This IS the topic, stupid.  I'm showing you that you are wrong.  Heck, you yourself made an own goal.

As soon as you admit that not everything in evolution is completely random, then you have destroyed your own entire structure.  Yep, you just added a hurricane's worth of water to the sand your entire argument is built on.

I think you actually understand that.. However, your massive ego and megalomanical complex prevents you from admitting to a mistake or even admitting that you don't know everything already.

Joe, there's a reason that several hundred million scientists disagree with you.  And it's not a global conspiracy to keep your massive intellect down.

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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 12 2012,12:19   

Quote (Joe G @ Aug. 12 2012,11:34)
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BTW dumbass- some variations help ensure reproductive fitness so they cannot be random wrt it.


LOL!

"some people win money in the lottery, so the lottery drawings can't be random"  

Thanks fatty JoeTard, that one's a keeper!  

It's right up there with your "hail isn't water" claim!  :D :D :D

Umm hail is made up of ICE, dumbass. RAIN is made up of water.

http://www.merriam-webster.com/diction........ain

1 a: water falling in drops condensed from vapor in the atmosphere

http://education.yahoo.com/referen........ail

1 Precipitation in the form of spherical or irregular pellets of ice larger than 5 millimeters (0.2 inches) in diameter

And ice is made of?

Edit to fix typo

Specific molecules of H2O

Hail is made up of ICE. Why are evos so fucking desperate that they have to make an issue out of that fact?

So are you saying that ice is composed of h2o but water isn't? I thought you said you could admit it when you are wrong. Last time I checked the chemical formula for both is the same.

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Amadan



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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 12 2012,12:22   

Quote (Joe G @ Aug. 12 2012,15:55)
Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Aug. 12 2012,09:42)
Quote (Joe G @ Aug. 12 2012,09:36)
My claim:

   
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People, evos in particular, seem to have a difficult time understanding the what the word random means with respect to biology and the theory of evolution. Let me see if I can help them out.

As plain as can be, with respect to biology and the theory of evolution, the word random means, happenstance, not planned, no purpose nor objective, haphazard, accidental.

That's it. So when someone says something about random mutations that is what they are talking about.


I have provided several references to support that claim. OTOH Richie just spews his ignorance...

JoeTard, the random in random mutations means the effects of mutations are random WRT reproductive fitness.

After all the times you've been corrected why do you remain such a dumbass?

Fuck you asshole. I supported my claim with actual references.

BTW dumbass- some variations help ensure reproductive fitness so they cannot be random wrt it.

Mine! I saw it first!

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JoeG BTW dumbass- some variations help ensure reproductive fitness so they cannot be random wrt it.

   
Richardthughes



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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 12 2012,12:24   

Quote (afarensis @ Aug. 12 2012,12:19)
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Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Aug. 12 2012,10:02)
   
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BTW dumbass- some variations help ensure reproductive fitness so they cannot be random wrt it.


LOL!

"some people win money in the lottery, so the lottery drawings can't be random"  

Thanks fatty JoeTard, that one's a keeper!  

It's right up there with your "hail isn't water" claim!  :D :D :D

Umm hail is made up of ICE, dumbass. RAIN is made up of water.

http://www.merriam-webster.com/diction........ain

1 a: water falling in drops condensed from vapor in the atmosphere

http://education.yahoo.com/referen........ail

1 Precipitation in the form of spherical or irregular pellets of ice larger than 5 millimeters (0.2 inches) in diameter

And ice is made of?

Edit to fix typo

Specific molecules of H2O

Hail is made up of ICE. Why are evos so fucking desperate that they have to make an issue out of that fact?

So are you saying that ice is composed of h2o but water isn't? I thought you said you could admit it when you are wrong. Last time I checked the chemical formula for both is the same.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki....f_water

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Water (H2O) is the most abundant compound on Earth's surface, covering about 70 percent of the planet. In nature, water exists in liquid, solid, and gaseous states.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki....Ice

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Ice is water frozen into the solid state.


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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 12 2012,12:28   



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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 12 2012,12:32   

Hey Joe,

Tell us, what is the difference between one molecule of water in liquid form and one molecule of water in solid form?

Oh wait, I forgot... there's no such thing as one molecule of water.  (grr... I'd put a link here, but I can't stand this system's search function)

eta: close enough

oh and BTW, I know how to determine if a molecule of water is solid, liquid, or gas... why don't you?

Edited by OgreMkV on Aug. 12 2012,12:34

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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 12 2012,12:39   

I wonder if Joe is the same guy who argued on another forum that a circle is not an ellipse and 1^700 is a really big number.

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Richardthughes



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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 12 2012,12:39   

Quote (OgreMkV @ Aug. 12 2012,12:32)
Hey Joe,

Tell us, what is the difference between one molecule of water in liquid form and one molecule of water in solid form?

Oh wait, I forgot... there's no such thing as one molecule of water.  (grr... I'd put a link here, but I can't stand this system's search function)

eta: close enough

oh and BTW, I know how to determine if a molecule of water is solid, liquid, or gas... why don't you?

Molecole, or mole for short?

;)

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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 12 2012,12:49   

..and Joe's run off. Maybe to lick her wounds, maybe to lick Barry Arrington's arse.

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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 12 2012,13:54   

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BTW dumbass- some variations help ensure reproductive fitness so they cannot be random wrt it.


LOL!

"some people win money in the lottery, so the lottery drawings can't be random"  

Thanks fatty JoeTard, that one's a keeper!  

It's right up there with your "hail isn't water" claim!  :D :D :D

Umm hail is made up of ICE, dumbass. RAIN is made up of water.

http://www.merriam-webster.com/diction........ain

1 a: water falling in drops condensed from vapor in the atmosphere

http://education.yahoo.com/referen........ail

1 Precipitation in the form of spherical or irregular pellets of ice larger than 5 millimeters (0.2 inches) in diameter

And ice is made of?

Edit to fix typo

Specific molecules of H2O

Hail is made up of ICE. Why are evos so fucking desperate that they have to make an issue out of that fact?

So are you saying that ice is composed of h2o but water isn't? I thought you said you could admit it when you are wrong. Last time I checked the chemical formula for both is the same.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki.......f_water

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Water (H2O) is the most abundant compound on Earth's surface, covering about 70 percent of the planet. In nature, water exists in liquid, solid, and gaseous states.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki...........Ice

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Ice is water frozen into the solid state.

:p

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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 12 2012,14:32   

Hey Joe,

What is liquid nitrogen made of?

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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 12 2012,14:34   

Quote (Joe G @ Aug. 12 2012,11:34)
{snip irrelevant though funny shit}

Specific molecules of H2O

Hail is made up of ICE. Why are evos so fucking desperate that they have to make an issue out of that fact?

Look at my sig.

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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 12 2012,15:09   

Sorry Joe!  I nearly forgot!



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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 12 2012,18:45   

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Hey remember when DaveScot declared:

"?By the way, gravity is the strongest force in nature.?


Maybe if one is talking about net effect over long range.

But on a short range, per-particle basis, not so much.

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And another reference that supports me:

The Role of Chance in Evolution

Mutations are truly chance events...


Certainly individual mutations are chance events.

But then again, so are individual raindrops. Yet when it rains, the ground gets wet.

Mutations increase the amount of genetic variety in a population. When some varieties have greater success than others at producing descendants, that is a selection effect of one type or another. The genetic differences not subject to selection effects are apt to show a "random walk" pattern, but those subject to selection are apt to be either conserved, or to accumulate changes that emphasize something that works in that population in its current environment.

(Don't mind me; I'm just organizing my thinking on the subject here.)

Henry

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 12 2012,18:45   

As for the "discussion" about whether water and ice are the same material or not, that strikes me as a disagreement over word usage rather than being about the underlying chemistry, i.e., I don't see anybody saying that water and ice aren't made of the same kind of molecules.

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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 12 2012,19:33   

Oh noes, "Intelligent Reasoning" is gone!

http://intelligentreasoning.blogspot.com/....pot.com

Did Joe grow up, or have a moment of clarity? Or is "Joe G" so polluted and comical that he'll re appear as a new sock?

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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 12 2012,19:34   

Looks like his 'backup' is also gone:

http://ir2.blogspot.com/....pot.com

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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 12 2012,19:42   

It seems as if Blogger.com (or whatever it was) finally read Joe's blog.

If his blog was deleted for violating the terms of service, then I suspect he will begin by ranting over at UD about it.  Then he will seriously step up his internet presence to try and undercover the people who reported him.

Hint Joe, I reported you about 17 months ago and nothing happened, so it wasn't me... unless Blogspot (or whatever it was) has finally gotten around to my complaint.  Seriously, when you post threats to your own blog, then you're pretty much violating the terms of service of any company.  Maybe you should buy your own server and blog software and run the whole thing from your basement.

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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 12 2012,19:45   

I think he maybe took a step back, realised he was making up personas, threatening people with violence, being moderated by both sides and posting pictures of women's genitals to get a reaction and thought it wasn't good for him. At least I hope that's what happened. Maybe he can channel his considerable energies into something more positive.

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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 12 2012,19:48   

Quote (Richardthughes @ Aug. 12 2012,19:45)
I think he maybe took a step back, realised he was making up personas, threatening people with violence, being moderated by both sides and posting pictures of women's genitals to get a reaction and thought it wasn't good for him. At least I hope that's what happened. Maybe he can channel his considerable energies into something more positive.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Oh wait... were you serious?

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