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stevestory



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(Permalink) Posted: May 17 2007,18:52   

A question for Luskin

Category: Evolution Denialism

   
J-Dog



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(Permalink) Posted: May 22 2007,08:44   

From Carl Zimmer on Sci Blogs:

Once More Into The Flaming Pinto My Friends!

http://scienceblogs.com/loom....pin.php

Casey, Casey, Casey... Once again he breaks new ground in tardism, and seriously gives DaveScot a run for his money for the Lifetime Tard Acheivement Award.
(Although DaveScot linking to an article that disproves his very own quotemine attempt this morning is soooo "tres tard".

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stevestory



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(Permalink) Posted: May 22 2007,13:24   

If you haven't read that Carl Zimmer piece, go read it. Casey couldn't more perfectly represent Intelligent Design if he tried.

   
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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 10 2007,19:14   

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Being Casey Luskin

Category: Anti-Creationism
Posted on: August 10, 2007 5:09 PM, by Jason Rosenhouse

Sometimes I wonder what it is like to be a blogger for the Discovery Institute. Imagine the strain of getting up every morning, swallowing every ounce of pride and intellectual integrity you might possess, and searching desperately through the media for something, anything, you can present as hostile to evolution or favorable to ID. It's exhausting work. Yet somehow there are folks like Casey Luskin who seem not just able, but actually willing to do it


http://scienceblogs.com/evolutionblog/2007/08/being_casey_luskin.php

   
J-Dog



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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 10 2007,20:36   

Quote (stevestory @ Aug. 10 2007,19:14)
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Being Casey Luskin

Category: Anti-Creationism
Posted on: August 10, 2007 5:09 PM, by Jason Rosenhouse

Sometimes I wonder what it is like to be a blogger for the Discovery Institute. Imagine the strain of getting up every morning, swallowing every ounce of pride and intellectual integrity you might possess, and searching desperately through the media for something, anything, you can present as hostile to evolution or favorable to ID. It's exhausting work. Yet somehow there are folks like Casey Luskin who seem not just able, but actually willing to do it


http://scienceblogs.com/evolutionblog/2007/08/being_casey_luskin.php

Jeez. It must suck to be Casey Luskin almost as much as it does to be Bill Dembski.  

We could have a Pathetic Loser contest between the two.  Some sort of mindless Reality TV show - it's perfect for them and their audience.

I can picture the red faces, the stuttering, the hillarity  that ensues when the Blond Bimbo asks them "So, Bill and Casey, please tell me, how many times have you have received a wedgie?  So, how many were from kids younger than you?  For extra Bonus Credit, How many times have you received a wedgie from a member of the opposite sex? (Bill, that means, like girls?  You know?"

This could be a true Show For The Ages.

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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 14 2007,19:30   

Quote (J-Dog @ Aug. 10 2007,20:36)
Quote (stevestory @ Aug. 10 2007,19:14)
 
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Being Casey Luskin

Category: Anti-Creationism
Posted on: August 10, 2007 5:09 PM, by Jason Rosenhouse

Sometimes I wonder what it is like to be a blogger for the Discovery Institute. Imagine the strain of getting up every morning, swallowing every ounce of pride and intellectual integrity you might possess, and searching desperately through the media for something, anything, you can present as hostile to evolution or favorable to ID. It's exhausting work. Yet somehow there are folks like Casey Luskin who seem not just able, but actually willing to do it


http://scienceblogs.com/evolutionblog/2007/08/being_casey_luskin.php

Jeez. It must suck to be Casey Luskin almost as much as it does to be Bill Dembski.  

We could have a Pathetic Loser contest between the two.  Some sort of mindless Reality TV show - it's perfect for them and their audience.

I can picture the red faces, the stuttering, the hillarity  that ensues when the Blond Bimbo asks them "So, Bill and Casey, please tell me, how many times have you have received a wedgie?  So, how many were from kids younger than you?  For extra Bonus Credit, How many times have you received a wedgie from a member of the opposite sex? (Bill, that means, like girls?  You know?"

This could be a true Show For The Ages.

I don't know. Luskin cracks me up when he starts talking about anthropology. Dembski, on the other hand, is just sad...

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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 14 2007,19:35   

Quote (afarensis @ Aug. 14 2007,20:30)
Luskin cracks me up when he starts talking about anthropology.

You probably know about this then

http://www.iscid.org/pcid/2005/4/1/luskin_human_origins.php

Casey's anthropology 'paper' from the late, fake ID journal PCID.

   
Timothy McDougald



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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 14 2007,20:40   

Quote (stevestory @ Aug. 14 2007,19:35)
Quote (afarensis @ Aug. 14 2007,20:30)
Luskin cracks me up when he starts talking about anthropology.

You probably know about this then

http://www.iscid.org/pcid/2005/4/1/luskin_human_origins.php

Casey's anthropology 'paper' from the late, fake ID journal PCID.

Yup. Fisked about half of it on my blog sometime back. It took an incredible amount of time just to do that. I had to provide background information so that I could then go on and explain why and how Luskin was wrong. Which meant one background post for each post where I specifcally talked about what Luskin had to say. Casey made a lot of errors ??? in that paper - most of which are recycled creationist arguments.

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Church burning ebola boy

FTK: I Didn't answer your questions because it beats the hell out of me.

PaV: I suppose for me to be pried away from what I do to focus long and hard on that particular problem would take, quite honestly, hundreds of thousands of dollars to begin to pique my interest.

   
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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 12 2007,08:40   

"You don't have to teach both sides of a debate if one side is a load of crap."

http://scienceblogs.com/dispatches/2007/09/more_luskin_whining.php

   
stevestory



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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 12 2007,09:49   

The SMU page Casey's whining about replays one of our all-time favorite moments:

"We've been attacked by the intelligent, educated segment of the culture."
--Ray Mummert

   
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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 12 2007,10:04   

Quote (stevestory @ Sep. 12 2007,08:40)
"You don't have to teach both sides of a debate if one side is a load of crap."

http://scienceblogs.com/dispatches/2007/09/more_luskin_whining.php

Best line from Casey's whining  
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The “rant” is actually a letter to the editor, and the person they call the "IDiot" who wrote it is me.


boo fricking hoo

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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 12 2007,10:11   

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Casey said: The “rant” is actually a letter to the editor, and the person they call the "IDiot" who wrote it is me.


Your point?

:p

   
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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 12 2007,10:12   

Quote (Albatrossity2 @ Sep. 12 2007,10:04)
Quote (stevestory @ Sep. 12 2007,08:40)
"You don't have to teach both sides of a debate if one side is a load of crap."

http://scienceblogs.com/dispatches/2007/09/more_luskin_whining.php

Best line from Casey's whining  
Quote
The “rant” is actually a letter to the editor, and the person they call the "IDiot" who wrote it is me.


boo fricking hoo

Well, give him a little credit - self-knowledge is very important.

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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 22 2007,18:42   

I say decrepit because Luskin's post is, to put it charitably, pitiful.

   
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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 22 2007,19:05   

I see Afarensis is wearing the scarlet letter too.  Jeez freaking louise, are there any sciencebloggers that aren't atheists?  Is that a prerequisite??!

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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 22 2007,20:42   

Quote (Ftk @ Sep. 22 2007,19:05)
I see Afarensis is wearing the scarlet letter too.  Jeez freaking louise, are there any sciencebloggers that aren't atheists?  Is that a prerequisite??!

I think you have to be smart, which is perhaps why creobots are not?

Smoochies!

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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 22 2007,21:16   

Quote (Ftk @ Sep. 22 2007,19:05)
I see Afarensis is wearing the scarlet letter too.  Jeez freaking louise, are there any sciencebloggers that aren't atheists?  Is that a prerequisite??!

Nah, there are an unspecified number of theists at ScienceBlogs. I find, however, that a mind unclouded by a reliance on magical sky pixies certainly helps one write a better science post... :D

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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 22 2007,21:17   

Quote (Ftk @ Sep. 22 2007,20:05)
I see Afarensis is wearing the scarlet letter too.  Jeez freaking louise, are there any sciencebloggers that aren't atheists?  Is that a prerequisite??!



Well, there's this one dude, whose site your currently at....

   
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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 22 2007,21:21   

Maybe she meant scienceblogs.com, not science blogger. In which case, well,

I don't think that guy's an atheist. Or John Wilkins.

   
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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 22 2007,21:26   

I don't think Wilkins is a theist. Was there something in particular that made you think so?

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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 22 2007,21:31   

Ed's a Deist. MarkCC is Jewish...

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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 22 2007,21:32   

Quote (stevestory @ Sep. 22 2007,21:21)
Maybe she meant scienceblogs.com, not science blogger. In which case, well,

I don't think that guy's an atheist. Or John Wilkins.

I'm assuming she did mean ScienceBlogs.com. I think Wilkins has mentioned in public that he is an agnostic, other than that I can't say - confidentiality and all. Our recruiter doesn't much care if a person is religious or not, the key is to write good, interesting science posts.

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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 22 2007,21:50   

Quote (Wesley R. Elsberry @ Sep. 22 2007,22:26)
I don't think Wilkins is a theist. Was there something in particular that made you think so?

He's not a theist. He's an agnostic. FtK asked if you had to be an atheist. Wilkins argues with PZ that he's not an atheist. While I personally put all non-theists into the atheist category, Wilkins doesn't identify as an atheist.

   
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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 22 2007,22:43   

Is there a list of science.bloggers?  I'll have to go check one of there sites and see if there is a link to all of them...just wondered how many there were.

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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 22 2007,22:54   

We don't know what 'science.bloggers' means. Do you mean everyone who blogs about science? Or everyone who blogs at ScienceBlogs.com?

   
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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 22 2007,22:55   

If you want a list of everyone who blogs at ScienceBlogs.com, there's a list at...guess where?...ScienceBlogs.com

   
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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 22 2007,23:21   

Yeah, yeah, I meant ScienceBlogs...silly IDiotic me.  I'm gonna go try to find me a theist out of that bunch...anyone wanna place bets as to whether there are any?

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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 22 2007,23:23   

Yes, we will bet that some sciencebloggers aren't atheists.

Ed Brayton. What do we win?

   
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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 22 2007,23:35   

I said I'm looking for a theist....personally, deists don't cut it in my book.  I'm doubtin' Ed's seen the inside of a church for a while.  If MarkCC is Jewish, you'd win...never heard of the guy.  I'll have to go check it out.

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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 22 2007,23:41   

Quote (Ftk @ Sep. 22 2007,23:35)
I said I'm looking for a theist....personally, deists don't cut it in my book.
.

erm..

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I see Afarensis is wearing the scarlet letter too.  Jeez freaking louise, are there any sciencebloggers that aren't atheists?  Is that a prerequisite??!


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deism

Hope this helps.

Deism <> Atheism.

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