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fnxtr



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 13 2010,01:15   

I just watched a couple of episodes of "The Office" and realized that Joe G. is actually Dwight.

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Tom Ames



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 13 2010,02:27   

Quote (fnxtr @ Mar. 12 2010,23:15)
I just watched a couple of episodes of "The Office" and realized that Joe G. is actually Dwight.

Actually, he's Gareth Keenan.

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 13 2010,07:11   

Quote (blipey @ Mar. 12 2010,23:02)
JoeTard now claims that it is impossible for rocks to be baseball sized!!!  In other news, bread boxes don't exist...

ID wunderkind destroys the notion of comparative language!

blipey, I'm so glad that you have the mental shielding needed to engage cakeboy on his blog. You deserve a medal, for sure. That exchange is a tardification classic!

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Hermagoras



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 13 2010,09:05   

Can I say (honestly) how much I like Joe G's "Captain America" avatar?  It actually corresponds to his image of himself: a perfect patriot, recipient of Super-Soldier Serum, person at the maximum of human potential.  This is a person who thinks, without irony, that he's smarter and more American than anybody else.  

I love the avatar, Joe: a perfect complement to your unlimited self-regard.  

MMMMwwwah! XOXOXO

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Reciprocating Bill



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 13 2010,09:23   

Quote (Hermagoras @ Mar. 13 2010,10:05)
Can I say (honestly) how much I like Joe G's "Captain America" avatar?  It actually corresponds to his image of himself: a perfect patriot, recipient of Super-Soldier Serum, person at the maximum of human potential.  This is a person who thinks, without irony, that he's smarter and more American than anybody else.  

I love the avatar, Joe: a perfect complement to your unlimited self-regard.  

MMMMwwwah! XOXOXO

The avatar captures his cartoonish essence.

(Contra the inherent dignity of a University 'reciprocating flare' midrange horn, circa 1952.)

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 13 2010,09:25   

Quote (Hermagoras @ Mar. 13 2010,07:05)
Can I say (honestly) how much I like Joe G's "Captain America" avatar?

Is that what it is?

I thought it was his Ass Hat.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 13 2010,11:14   

Quote (Albatrossity2 @ Mar. 13 2010,07:11)
     
Quote (blipey @ Mar. 12 2010,23:02)
JoeTard now claims that it is impossible for rocks to be baseball sized!!!  In other news, bread boxes don't exist...

ID wunderkind destroys the notion of comparative language!

blipey, I'm so glad that you have the mental shielding needed to engage cakeboy on his blog. You deserve a medal, for sure. That exchange is a tardification classic!

Wow. Just wow.

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Joe G: So how the fuck can a piece of granite be baseball-sized?

Yes, blipey has done us all a great service. We salute his memory.



Oh, he survived? Really? Doesn't seem possible. What he must have endured!

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olegt



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 13 2010,12:22   

That thread is a gem.  Joe redefines size to include weight and teaches us how science must be conducted:
 
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Joe: So how the fuck can a piece of granite be baseball-sized?

Thorton: It can be a sphere with a circumference between 9 and 9 1/4 inches, same as an actual baseball.

Joe: Then it would weigh more than a baseball which means it is not "baseball-size".

blipey: If a shoe box is 5" X 8" X 14" and I have a loaf of bread that is 5" X 8" X 14", it is perfectly acceptable to say that the loaf of bread is the size of a shoebox.

Joe: I disagree. Well perhaps it is OK to say that in an informal gathering of imbeciles- perhaps even a formal gathering.  But never in a scientific setting- never when discussing science.  It is OK to say y=the shoe box and loaf of bread have the same dimensions.  But if they do not weigh the same then they are not the same size.


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midwifetoad



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 13 2010,12:42   

The debate over baseball-size reminds me of a very long debate with a creationist who denied that a circle is an ellipse.

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khan



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 13 2010,12:49   

Quote (olegt @ Mar. 13 2010,13:22)
That thread is a gem.  Joe redefines size to include weight and teaches us how science must be conducted:
 
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Joe: So how the fuck can a piece of granite be baseball-sized?

Thorton: It can be a sphere with a circumference between 9 and 9 1/4 inches, same as an actual baseball.

Joe: Then it would weigh more than a baseball which means it is not "baseball-size".

blipey: If a shoe box is 5" X 8" X 14" and I have a loaf of bread that is 5" X 8" X 14", it is perfectly acceptable to say that the loaf of bread is the size of a shoebox.

Joe: I disagree. Well perhaps it is OK to say that in an informal gathering of imbeciles- perhaps even a formal gathering.  But never in a scientific setting- never when discussing science.  It is OK to say y=the shoe box and loaf of bread have the same dimensions.  But if they do not weigh the same then they are not the same size.

New sig!

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 13 2010,13:06   

Quote (olegt @ Mar. 13 2010,13:22)
That thread is a gem.  Joe redefines size to include weight and teaches us how science must be conducted:
   
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Joe: So how the fuck can a piece of granite be baseball-sized?

Thorton: It can be a sphere with a circumference between 9 and 9 1/4 inches, same as an actual baseball.

Joe: Then it would weigh more than a baseball which means it is not "baseball-size".

blipey: If a shoe box is 5" X 8" X 14" and I have a loaf of bread that is 5" X 8" X 14", it is perfectly acceptable to say that the loaf of bread is the size of a shoebox.

Joe: I disagree. Well perhaps it is OK to say that in an informal gathering of imbeciles- perhaps even a formal gathering.  But never in a scientific setting- never when discussing science.  It is OK to say y=the shoe box and loaf of bread have the same dimensions.  But if they do not weigh the same then they are not the same size.

I've been wondering about the reciprocal.

Do one kilogram of cake and one kilogram of aardvark weigh the same? I say they can't, because they aren't the same size.

Cake, boy.

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fnxtr



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 13 2010,13:47   

"When I use a word... " etc...

Apparently size=mass.  Or maybe density. Or something.

So our sun will still be approximately the same "size" when it becomes a red giant and consumes our planet.

Good to know.

Dwight: humourless, self-important, and completely detached from reality.

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 13 2010,14:53   

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Joe G: So how the fuck can a piece of granite be baseball-sized?

Mystery solved! Granite baseball.


Click pic for larger image


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Henry J



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 13 2010,15:25   

I dunno, but maybe one shouldn't take baseballs for granite?

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 13 2010,15:33   

Quote (Zachriel @ Mar. 13 2010,14:53)
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Joe G: So how the fuck can a piece of granite be baseball-sized?

Mystery solved! Granite baseball.


Click pic for larger image

Silly man - that's obviously a baserockball, probably used by Fred Flintstone when he roamed with the dinosaurs after the Earth was created 6,000 years ago.  Which proves ID, of course!

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 13 2010,19:25   

Off topic - What happened to the forum?  D.O.S. attack?

  
Hermagoras



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 13 2010,20:07   

Quote (khan @ Mar. 13 2010,12:49)
Quote (olegt @ Mar. 13 2010,13:22)
That thread is a gem.  Joe redefines size to include weight and teaches us how science must be conducted:
   
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Joe: So how the fuck can a piece of granite be baseball-sized?

Thorton: It can be a sphere with a circumference between 9 and 9 1/4 inches, same as an actual baseball.

Joe: Then it would weigh more than a baseball which means it is not "baseball-size".

blipey: If a shoe box is 5" X 8" X 14" and I have a loaf of bread that is 5" X 8" X 14", it is perfectly acceptable to say that the loaf of bread is the size of a shoebox.

Joe: I disagree. Well perhaps it is OK to say that in an informal gathering of imbeciles- perhaps even a formal gathering.  But never in a scientific setting- never when discussing science.  It is OK to say y=the shoe box and loaf of bread have the same dimensions.  But if they do not weigh the same then they are not the same size.

New sig!

Joe gives good sig.  khan, I wish I'd seen that before you.

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 13 2010,20:32   

Meanwhile, back at the ranch, Joe points out places where size=mass and expresses hope that this is a universal phenomenon:
 
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blipey: In what world does the word "size" mean "weight"?

Joe: In boxing, UFC, wrestling- most sports.  I am sure it has a bearing in mechanics too, as well as electronics.  I am sure in science it is perfectly normal to answer the question of size with that of mass... Size is both.  Educated people have a big word- we use DIMENSIONS- if that is what we wish to convey.


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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 13 2010,20:51   

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Meanwhile, back at the ranch, Joe points out places where size=mass and expresses hope that this is a universal phenomenon:
   
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blipey: In what world does the word "size" mean "weight"?

Joe: In boxing, UFC, wrestling- most sports.  I am sure it has a bearing in mechanics too, as well as electronics.  I am sure in science it is perfectly normal to answer the question of size with that of mass... Size is both.  Educated people have a big word- we use DIMENSIONS- if that is what we wish to convey.

Of course, boxers are sorted by weight class, which Joe attempts to define as a combination of height, weight, and anywhere from 13 - 73% reach?

JoeTard:
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The boxer's size is a combo- height/ weight with a little reach thrown in.


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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 14 2010,04:21   

Quote (blipey @ Mar. 13 2010,20:51)
 
Quote (olegt @ Mar. 13 2010,20:32)
Meanwhile, back at the ranch, Joe points out places where size=mass and expresses hope that this is a universal phenomenon:
       
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blipey: In what world does the word "size" mean "weight"?

Joe: In boxing, UFC, wrestling- most sports.  I am sure it has a bearing in mechanics too, as well as electronics.  I am sure in science it is perfectly normal to answer the question of size with that of mass... Size is both.  Educated people have a big word- we use DIMENSIONS- if that is what we wish to convey.

Of course, boxers are sorted by weight class, which Joe attempts to define as a combination of height, weight, and anywhere from 13 - 73% reach?

JoeTard:    
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The boxer's size is a combo- height/ weight with a little reach thrown in.

Seems Joe G over-reached himself this time.

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 14 2010,06:22   

Quote (Quack @ Mar. 14 2010,01:21)
Quote (blipey @ Mar. 13 2010,20:51)
   
Quote (olegt @ Mar. 13 2010,20:32)
Meanwhile, back at the ranch, Joe points out places where size=mass and expresses hope that this is a universal phenomenon:
       
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blipey: In what world does the word "size" mean "weight"?

Joe: In boxing, UFC, wrestling- most sports.  I am sure it has a bearing in mechanics too, as well as electronics.  I am sure in science it is perfectly normal to answer the question of size with that of mass... Size is both.  Educated people have a big word- we use DIMENSIONS- if that is what we wish to convey.

Of course, boxers are sorted by weight class, which Joe attempts to define as a combination of height, weight, and anywhere from 13 - 73% reach?

JoeTard:      
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The boxer's size is a combo- height/ weight with a little reach thrown in.

Seems Joe G over-reached himself this time.

What do mean "this time"?

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 14 2010,08:12   

Perhaps Joe's conceptual muddle vis size has the same origins as this old joke:

Q: Why are women so bad at measurement?

A: They're constantly told that this is six inches (finger and thumb four inches apart).

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 14 2010,08:35   

To set the record straight, boxers are classified by measuring their CSI. This is accomplished by counting the number of characters contained in their minimal descriptions:

Wiki introductions will do:

Foreman:
 
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George Edward Foreman (born January 10, 1949) is an American two-time former World Heavyweight Boxing Champion, Olympic gold medalist, and successful entrepreneur.

He became the oldest man ever to become heavyweight boxing champion of the world when, at age 45, he knocked out Michael Moorer, age 26, to reclaim the title he held 20 years earlier. He has been named one of the 25 greatest fighters of all time by Ring magazine. Nicknamed "Big George" he is now a successful businessman and an ordained Christian minister who has his own church.

Foreman has 10 children, and each of his five sons are named George: George Jr., George III, George IV, George V and George VI. His four older sons are distinguished from one another by the nicknames "Monk", "Big Wheel", "Red" and "Little George."

Foreman is ranked #9 on Ring magazine's list of "100 greatest punchers of all time". He is also well-known for the eponymous George Foreman Grill.

Ali:
 
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Muhammad Ali (born Cassius Marcellus Clay Jr.; January 17, 1942) is a retired American boxer and three-time World Heavyweight Champion, who is widely considered one of the greatest heavyweight championship boxers of all time. As an amateur, he won a gold medal in the light heavyweight division at the 1960 Summer Olympics in Rome. After turning professional, he went on to become the first boxer to win the lineal heavyweight championship three times.

Originally known as Cassius Clay, Ali changed his name after joining the Nation of Islam in 1964, subsequently converting to Sunni Islam in 1975. In 1967, Ali refused to be inducted into the U.S. military based on his religious beliefs and opposition to the Vietnam War. He was arrested and found guilty on draft evasion charges, stripped of his boxing title, and his boxing license was suspended. He was not imprisoned, but did not fight again for nearly four years while his appeal worked its way up to the U.S. Supreme Court, where it was successful.

Nicknamed "The Greatest", Ali was involved in several historic boxing matches. Notable among these are three with rival Joe Frazier and one with George Foreman, whom he beat by knockout to win the world heavyweight title for the second time. He suffered only five losses (four decisions and one TKO by retirement from the bout) with no draws in his career, while amassing 56 wins (37 knockouts and 19 decisions). Ali was well known for his unorthodox fighting style, which he described as "float like a butterfly, sting like a bee", and employing techniques such as the rope-a-dope. He was also known for his pre-match hype, where he would "trash talk" opponents on television and in person some time before the match, often with rhymes. These personality quips, idioms along with an unorthodox fighting technique made him a cultural icon. In later life, Ali developed Parkinson's disease. In 1999, Ali was crowned "Sportsman of the Century" by Sports Illustrated and "Sports Personality of the Century" by the BBC.

Forman is defined in 936 characters and hence contains a minimum of 4680 bits of CSI. Ali is defined by 2020 characters and hence he contains a minimum of 10100 bits of CSI.

They should never have been in the same ring.

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 14 2010,11:41   

Boxing weight classes


MMA weight classes

Just weight.  No height, no reach.

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 14 2010,12:35   

This is the question by Thornton that started it all

   
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Hey Joe,

Suppose I am out hiking and find a really neat rounded granite river rock the size and shape of baseball. How do I calculate the CSI in it, or tell if it has any CSI at all?

I like it so much I hire a master stonemason to make me an identical copy. This requires I draw up a detailed BOM for the material composition, size, shape, etc. plus detailed specifications for the carving instructions. The copy obviously has lots of 'CSI' since it came from a detailed plan, right?

When the copy is done it is absolutely indistinguishable from the original. Then, clumsy me drops the two and gets them mixed up. How can I measure the CSI to tell the naturally occurring original from the highly specified copy?


I've seen Joe G say lots of incredibly stupid things in my day, but having him claim a rock can't be the size of a baseball just to avoid any discussion of measuring CSI has to be at the very top.

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 14 2010,12:51   

Joe,

There are many plaster cast copies of Michelangelo's David in existence. They weigh less than the six-ton marble original; solid marble weighs 160 lbs per cubic foot, while plaster weighs 53 lbs per cubic foot.  If I understand you correctly, you are saying that although they are of identical physical dimensions and displace identical volumes of identical shape, plaster-cast David and the original David are NOT the same size. Any one who says otherwise is both an idiot and an asshole.

So, Joe, if a precise plaster cast copy of David is NOT, by your definition, the same size as the original David, how much taller would such a plaster cast David have to be than the actual David to be the same size as the actual David?

(Somehow, this question makes sense to you.)

Show your work.

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 14 2010,13:16   

Quote (fnxtr @ Mar. 13 2010,13:47)
"When I use a word... " etc...

Apparently size=mass.  Or maybe density. Or something.

So our sun will still be approximately the same "size" when it becomes a red giant and consumes our planet.

Good to know.

Dwight: humourless, self-important, and completely detached from reality.

F: I agree with you... Joe G = Dwight.  

To carry the Office thing further, Dembski = Michael Scot.  Clueless, self-important, thinks he's smart, but he's not.  

BTW Is Angela from teh Office ,FTK or Joy?

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 14 2010,16:27   

Quote (Reciprocating Bill @ Mar. 14 2010,12:51)
Joe,

There are many plaster cast copies of Michelangelo's David in existence. They weigh less than the six-ton marble original; solid marble weighs 160 lbs per cubic foot, while plaster weighs 53 lbs per cubic foot.  If I understand you correctly, you are saying that although they are of identical physical dimensions and displace identical volumes of identical shape, plaster-cast David and the original David are NOT the same size. Any one who says otherwise is both an idiot and an asshole.

So, Joe, if a precise plaster cast copy of David is NOT, by your definition, the same size as the original David, how much taller would such a plaster cast David have to be than the actual David to be the same size as the actual David?

(Somehow, this question makes sense to you.)

Show your work.

I point out the first bold passage to predict Joe's answer:

"You couldn't understand what a 13 year old understands, asshole".

I point out the second bold passage as evidence for POtW!!!

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 14 2010,16:52   

Presumably, a plaster replica of David would be as small as the original.

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 14 2010,19:14   

Is someone going to ask Joe which is heavier, a pound of feathers or a pound of lead?

  
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