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Erasmus, FCD



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 11 2011,08:43   

yall know this bitch aint showin up to this thread, right?

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OgreMkV



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 11 2011,09:19   

Of course, why would he actually attempt to defend his claims when he can say whatever he wants on youtube with no argument?

He's a coward... but we all know that.

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Sol3a1



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 11 2011,09:25   

Quote (OgreMkV @ Feb. 11 2011,09:19)
Of course, why would he actually attempt to defend his claims when he can say whatever he wants on youtube with no argument?

He's a coward... but we all know that.

There's toobsucker who claims they're out until next week and karamarouge who thinks that this place is a joke:
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people who post nonsense like this?

"How long can his tardgasm go on? Until the pointless waste of his daddy's semen ups and dies.

Still, think happy thoughts, eh."

AND

"100 quatloos he watches this thread and pops in with a tard-a-gram right after any wagered time limit."


"A Joe G-spot tornado"


Seriously this garbage is what you think passes for science?

Are you serious?
He'll use that excuse not to go here as I pointed out, real science can't be done in 500 character blocks that require bot checks and sometimes it looks as if you didn't post anything.

Then I hit him with
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If you don't want to go to the Anti Evolution site and I can understand your reluctance due to you know you have no argument
At least though I got others pointed here even if the little boy decides to "pass up such crass people"

  
OgreMkV



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 11 2011,10:32   

Just remind him that we say those things because others start with them.  Or that there is no arguement (oh, you did that).  Or they others can't discuss science because they don't understand it (like JoeG).

Tell him, he has a personal challenge from me to discuss science and only science.  I'll happily take care of it, but only here where we can post pictures and links (that he won't read).

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Sol3a1



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 11 2011,10:38   

Quote (OgreMkV @ Feb. 11 2011,10:32)
Just remind him that we say those things because others start with them.  Or that there is no arguement (oh, you did that).  Or they others can't discuss science because they don't understand it (like JoeG).

Tell him, he has a personal challenge from me to discuss science and only science.  I'll happily take care of it, but only here where we can post pictures and links (that he won't read).

Done:

- Howdy bud, I have a person who would like to invite you to the Anti Evolution board

This is from OgreMarkIV:
"Tell him, he has a personal challenge from me to discuss science and only science.  I'll happily take care of it, but only here where we can post pictures and links (that he won't read)"

Here:
/cgi-bin/ikonboard/ikonboard.cgi?act=ST;f=14;t=7217;st=30

If the "meanies" are too much, just telling you that they have no problem slinging BS back at others

  
Sol3a1



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 12 2011,05:55   

It seems he doesn't want to come here

From

Here's a few gems if you don't make it over there:
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"3: Hard parts? fossilize better"

here were go again with your ignorance being exposed! The cambrian fossil are both soft bodied and hard bodied animals. Matter of fact the oldest fossils are microscopic soft bodied embryos found by DR Zhang in the hunan province of china!

Stop lying!!!

Stop fucking lying!!!!
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5:" Evolution "explodes" when there are empty niches to fill, there was a huge niche? starting in the Late Vendian"

This is another dumb argument!!!

HEY YOU IDIOT, IF THIS WERE TRUE THEN WE WOULD NOT BE MISSING THE LARGEST MAJORITY OF ALL LIFE THAT EVER EXISTED ON EARTH!!!

Seriously, there has got to be a limit to the stupidity of the the arguments you make! Right now the world's "niches" are mostly empty! Why didnt evolution "explode" to replace 99% of all dead species?
I can hardly wait to be told I'm going to hell

  
OgreMkV



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 12 2011,07:16   

This guy's a complete moron.  Alex, I'll take Strawman Arguments for 8 billion.

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Sol3a1



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 12 2011,07:36   

Quote (OgreMkV @ Feb. 12 2011,07:16)
This guy's a complete moron.  Alex, I'll take Strawman Arguments for 8 billion.

We think he's 16 and just completed his the DvD set from "Dr. Dino's and his Hardonyoursoreass talk about Evilution and why it's impossible, praise Jebus" series and wants to go show the world he has the power to vanquish the evil that is evilution to bring about god's second cumming

I just hope the guy can find a virgin like he did the last time

  
Quack



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 12 2011,08:20   

Why are creationists so mean, leaving us talking to ourselves?

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Sol3a1



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 12 2011,08:46   

Quote (Quack @ Feb. 12 2011,08:20)
Why are creationists so mean, leaving us talking to ourselves?

They don't like playing on a fair and level field where idiocy is left up for all to see and good points remain no matter how devastating it is to the side that doesn't like it

  
Stanton



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 12 2011,09:23   

Quote (Quack @ Feb. 12 2011,08:20)
Why are creationists so mean, leaving us talking to ourselves?

Because they use their faith in Jesus to act like lying assholes who arrogantly assume that they know more than actual scientists.

  
OgreMkV



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 12 2011,09:36   

Quote (Quack @ Feb. 12 2011,08:20)
Why are creationists so mean, leaving us talking to ourselves?

One word: Cowards

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Stanton



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 12 2011,09:57   

Quote (OgreMkV @ Feb. 12 2011,09:36)
Quote (Quack @ Feb. 12 2011,08:20)
Why are creationists so mean, leaving us talking to ourselves?

One word: Cowards

That brings up another question: If their faith in Jesus grants them intellectual superiority, intellectual invulnerability, and the ability to command Jesus to damn anyone and everyone they don't like to Hell,  why would they need to be cowards?

  
OgreMkV



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 12 2011,10:48   

Quote (Stanton @ Feb. 12 2011,09:57)
Quote (OgreMkV @ Feb. 12 2011,09:36)
Quote (Quack @ Feb. 12 2011,08:20)
Why are creationists so mean, leaving us talking to ourselves?

One word: Cowards

That brings up another question: If their faith in Jesus grants them intellectual superiority, intellectual invulnerability, and the ability to command Jesus to damn anyone and everyone they don't like to Hell,  why would they need to be cowards?

Heck, they can't even cure arthritis.

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 12 2011,10:57   

Quote (Sol3a1 @ Feb. 12 2011,08:46)
Quote (Quack @ Feb. 12 2011,08:20)
Why are creationists so mean, leaving us talking to ourselves?

They don't like playing on a fair and level field where idiocy is left up for all to see and good points remain no matter how devastating it is to the side that doesn't like it

Same reason they prefer debates in person - they don't want there to be written evidence of their arguments, don't want to give their opponent time to research and present the evidence needed to overcome the inevitable gish gallop, and they don't want to give onlookers the time to actually read, consider, look at the evidence, etc.

It's much easier to preach in a debate.

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Erasmus, FCD



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 12 2011,11:31   

pssssh would you wanna fight mike tyson?  where the fuck is deadman anyway

i don't blame the lying little bastards

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Sol3a1



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 12 2011,12:09   

Well I replied to the weasel, even kept as many swear words out as I could but still found time to throw him under his own words

I had nothing better to do today

  
OgreMkV



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 12 2011,13:28   

You go Sol!

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Sol3a1



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 12 2011,14:24   

Quote (OgreMkV @ Feb. 12 2011,13:28)
You go Sol!

sarcasm?  :D

Hey, no worries, on a conference call most of the day so what a better, and far more productive waste of my time

  
OgreMkV



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 12 2011,15:19   

Quote (Sol3a1 @ Feb. 12 2011,14:24)
Quote (OgreMkV @ Feb. 12 2011,13:28)
You go Sol!

sarcasm?  :D

Hey, no worries, on a conference call most of the day so what a better, and far more productive waste of my time

Heh, I know the feeling.  I've been assigned to three HUGE projects.  Of course, one of them won't start until April.  ONe has exactly 9 days of actual work for me over the next six months and the third will have 5 days... next week.

Drives me insane that I have to go begging for work to do to.

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Sol3a1



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 15 2011,14:44   

toobsucker is back:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JIezfosDNJM

A few comments he made to me:
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"As ID declares that something designed life on Earth, then something designed the designer and so on to infinite regression"

Right but why do you start the investigation of the "first life" in the universe on planet earth with the carbon based life form that had to be created via random copying errors. A much more? plausible scenario is the abiogenesis of a "intellect" before the singularity and before? entropy exists. If you have FOREVER for life to arise its chances become 100% or 1
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"We know that evolution is a fact, the details are still being worked on, just like physics"

We know minor changes within? every species is observable. And? we know WHY they are observable, because the information for minor changes exist in every species. However the information for huge dramatic changes are NOT on file in our genome. But you make the LEAP of faith that says HUGE changes are a fact when there is NO evidence for it, either in the fossil record or in molecular biology
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"and there's no reason to assume that the machine was ever designed"

How about the little fact that there? is NO evidence random copying errors + any natural occurrence you want to add to the theory can create the molecular machines

And the little fact that an intelligence CAN AND HAVE designed and created the molecular machines we see in the cell.

So you understand you are not even grounded in basic logical reasoning?
I like the ad hom that I don't have any basic or logical reasoning skills.

It is nice to be loved.

  
Sol3a1



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 15 2011,15:05   

There's also this gem, to a quote I didn't make
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"Every time I tried to open the door there was a brick wall behind it. If there were something to test."

There is something to? test. the test is a simple one.

To chose the best candidate for the origins the information in DNA & RNA.? Those candidate are natural undirected forces or a pre-existing intelligence.

I have evidence a pre-existing intelligence can write coded information. So now the burden of proof is on the naturalist to prove coded information can arise naturally.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 15 2011,15:53   

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I have evidence a pre-existing intelligence can write coded information. So now the burden of proof is on the naturalist to prove coded information can arise naturally.

You may have evidence that a human intelligence can write coded information, however, you presumably have zero evidence for a human or human-like intelligence existing at the origin of life on Earth.

OTOH,
 Tree rings encode information about the climate that existed when the rings were formed.
Orientation of the earths' magnetic field is encoded in the magnetic domains of crystals that solidified as the magma emerged and spread in the mid-Atlantic rift zone.
 Ice cores encode the annual snowfall and other climactic data that existed when the ice was formed.
 The fossil record encodes the morphology of plants and animals that existed when the sediments were laid down.
 
 Obviously nature can create complex, specified, coded information.
 Now, show us your evidence for the pre-existing human-like intelligence that you say is the best explanation for the genetic code.

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 15 2011,17:15   

Quote (OgreMkV @ Feb. 12 2011,08:48)
Quote (Stanton @ Feb. 12 2011,09:57)
 
Quote (OgreMkV @ Feb. 12 2011,09:36)
 
Quote (Quack @ Feb. 12 2011,08:20)
Why are creationists so mean, leaving us talking to ourselves?

One word: Cowards

That brings up another question: If their faith in Jesus grants them intellectual superiority, intellectual invulnerability, and the ability to command Jesus to damn anyone and everyone they don't like to Hell,  why would they need to be cowards?

Heck, they can't even cure arthritis.

Shit, they cannot even cure nail fungus by prayer. Tincture of iodine does just dandy by the way. (Just mentioning this for Louis and his mum).

Edited by Dr.GH on Feb. 15 2011,15:17

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Louis



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 15 2011,19:43   

Quote (Dr.GH @ Feb. 15 2011,23:15)
Quote (OgreMkV @ Feb. 12 2011,08:48)
 
Quote (Stanton @ Feb. 12 2011,09:57)
 
Quote (OgreMkV @ Feb. 12 2011,09:36)
   
Quote (Quack @ Feb. 12 2011,08:20)
Why are creationists so mean, leaving us talking to ourselves?

One word: Cowards

That brings up another question: If their faith in Jesus grants them intellectual superiority, intellectual invulnerability, and the ability to command Jesus to damn anyone and everyone they don't like to Hell,  why would they need to be cowards?

Heck, they can't even cure arthritis.

Shit, they cannot even cure nail fungus by prayer. Tincture of iodine does just dandy by the way. (Just mentioning this for Louis and his mum).

Too kind, too kind.

Louis

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Stanton



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 15 2011,22:03   

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I submit that many organisms engage in coded language, however I would argue that DNA isn't a *deliberate* coded language or even really a language per se. It is a code to be sure, but saying it is a language is  really no different than saying that electrons in a piece of copper are a language.

My response to the "DNA is a language" issue is to ask whoever is making the claim to translate some DNA into English. After all, one of the features of a true language is that it can be translated from one language to another.

If they cannot do that then the next step is to point out that then perhaps "Language" is not the right word....

Of course DNA is a language: Creationists said that God said so, so there [/snark]

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 15 2011,22:17   

Quote (Stanton @ Feb. 15 2011,22:03)
Quote (oldmanintheskydidntdoit @ Feb. 11 2011,08:42)
 
Quote (Robin @ Feb. 11 2011,07:45)
I submit that many organisms engage in coded language, however I would argue that DNA isn't a *deliberate* coded language or even really a language per se. It is a code to be sure, but saying it is a language is  really no different than saying that electrons in a piece of copper are a language.

My response to the "DNA is a language" issue is to ask whoever is making the claim to translate some DNA into English. After all, one of the features of a true language is that it can be translated from one language to another.

If they cannot do that then the next step is to point out that then perhaps "Language" is not the right word....

Of course DNA is a language: Creationists said that God said so, so there [/snark]

The Gospel according to Xhtwobwe the time-travelling, ninja, cell-biologist.

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 16 2011,06:36   

I invited another prolific poster at YouTube "Mekelsior", you can catch his antics here [URL=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-j5kKSk_6U;Mekelsior[/URL] here to give their incredible evidence

  
OgreMkV



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 16 2011,08:42   

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I invited another prolific poster at YouTube "Mekelsior", you can catch his antics here [URL=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-j5kKSk_6U;Mekelsior[/URL] here to give their incredible evidence

If the evidence is so damned incredible, then why isn't he publishing it and making a fortune on the speaking circuit?

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Erasmus, FCD



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 16 2011,09:04   

the only tards that are going to come here are the ones entirely disconnected from reality (booby, Kwis, mabus, vmartin).  

The folks who know T.A.R.D. is full of shit and are variously conflicted about it are sorta grown up level fun (FtK, Joy, Heddle).  They don't imbue the same sort of thrill as the windup dolls like JoeG where all you have to do is yank his string and he busts a couple of springs.

The folks who know that T.A.R.D. is bullshit and still repeat it tend to disappear from this board pretty quickly.  Floyd Lee is the most memorable recent exception.

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You're obviously illiterate as hell. Peach, bro.-FtK

Finding something hard to believe based on the evidence, is science.-JoeG

the odds of getting some loathsome taint are low-- Gordon E Mullings Manjack Heights Montserrat

I work on molecular systems with pathway charts and such.-Giggles

  
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