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|Quote (Lou FCD @ Sep. 13 2009,07:56)|
|Quote (deadman_932 @ Sep. 12 2009,23:21)|
|Oi, this ("debate" crap) has all the makings of a debacle. I should learn to keep me big mouth shut.|
While the argument with the lying dirtbag holds no interest for me whatever, I'd be interested to know about your original motivation. What was the point of this?
(I apologize if that sounds in any way harsh or hostile, it's not meant to be. I'm genuinely curious.)
Lou: I'd already written a semi-"explanation" (mea culpa) earlier in this thread ;
|Bleh. Okay, I'm going to assume FL = male. |
I'm responsible for inviting "FL" without having any real knowledge of his track record at PT or CARM or wherever. I just saw him posting at PT and disrupting a thread I was interested in. I didn't know it was a "regular" irritant there and my intent was to find a decent chew-toy. I don't think this is it, but it might at least serve the purpose of keeping FL busy for a while. Maybe. I'm having real second thoughts after having read some of his claims and tactics. (from here )
On reflection, I'd imagine that part of what puzzles you is that you already have a good working knowledge of "FL" from the Kansas episode, PT, or both and more.
I didn't really have that same prior knowledge that you do. I was reading the comments here on RBH's write-up regarding the "bloggingheads' faux pas. I normally don't bother reading comments at PT.
I saw a troll and pointed out that there's a whole forum for the kind of "debate" it was engaging in. That's really the sum of it.
The thing is that there's a LOT of trolls everywhere, on every anti-creo or pro-science forum I read stuff at. I generally don't read a lot of comments at EVERY site, and I tend to filter out trolls. Hell, I'd seen FL as "Mellotron " at Talk Rat and even posted in the same thread it was infesting...and had no clue it was "FL."
Let's use Pharyngula as example. Lots of people read it, but in different ways. I rarely read through the comments -- but that's where the trolls dwell. Regular readers/posters ("regs") might *know* who the trolls are and might know/remember many of their names. I don't.
Similarly, I could easily imagine someone encountering "smooth operator" at Talk Rat and saying "hey why don't you debate that crap in the proper setting?" Or AFDave. Or Ray Martinez. They're not all exactly equivalent trolls, but they are all trolls, just the same. If you didn't know their track record and M.O. you'd find yourself in the same embarassing position I'm in.
What I learned out of this was to not be so quick to "invite" and to check the track record first.
I can understand a genuine perplexity on your part (as a mod or "reg") when you KNOW the troll in question. I just didn't do my homework and as I said in another post, this was a "perfect storm of stupid on my part."
AtBC Award for Thoroughness in the Face of Creationism