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KCdgw



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(Permalink) Posted: April 26 2009,12:36   

Its a humid, windy Spring day here in Kansas City... waiting for the tornadoes. Enjoying a nice ice-cold bottle of Zagorka, from Bulgaria:



Perfect.

KC

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khan



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(Permalink) Posted: April 29 2009,11:39   

The asparagus has arrived at the farmers' market.  For lunch I will saute it in some ghee.

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khan



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(Permalink) Posted: July 25 2009,17:58   

Went back to my peasant roots.

Noticed a cow tongue in the freezer at the farmers' market.

Put it in the Crock Pot overnight w/ dry beans and many vegetables and herbs.

Smelled and tasted wonderful.

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rhmc



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(Permalink) Posted: July 25 2009,19:43   

do you "skin" the tongue?  

i've a grocers nearby that has cow tongue every now and again but the recipe i've seen starts with "skinning the tongue".

  
khan



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(Permalink) Posted: July 25 2009,20:16   

Quote (rhmc @ July 25 2009,20:43)
do you "skin" the tongue?  

i've a grocers nearby that has cow tongue every now and again but the recipe i've seen starts with "skinning the tongue".

I skin it after cooking, save it for stock.

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"It's as if all those words, in their hurry to escape from the loony, have fallen over each other, forming scrambled heaps of meaninglessness." -damitall

That's so fucking stupid it merits a wing in the museum of stupid. -midwifetoad

  
Erasmus, FCD



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(Permalink) Posted: July 26 2009,08:42   

tongue skin before bung skin, i suppose

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carlsonjok



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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 11 2009,22:33   

Hey, Tarden Chatterbox?

Bacon!!!1!1111!!!

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ppb



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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 12 2009,07:36   

Quote (carlsonjok @ Aug. 11 2009,23:33)
Hey, Tarden Chatterbox?

Bacon!!!1!1111!!!

Wow.  There's even something that appeals to the ID supporters!

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rhmc



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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 16 2009,19:39   

south georgia caviar = okra

that particular flavor of hibiscus has bloomed here and is providing pods a plenty.

plants are approaching 8 feet tall - yes, 8 feet - and we're beginning to share pods with the neighbors as we cannot eat it all.

fried okra, microwaved with basil, grilled, eaten raw, boiled, warmed with tomatoes....

mmmm.  

those big white seeds....

  
Erasmus, FCD



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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 16 2009,19:45   

when i was a-comin' on we used to eat so much boiled okry that i couldn't keep my socks pulled up.  ahh jerry

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Finding something hard to believe based on the evidence, is science.-JoeG

the odds of getting some loathsome taint are low-- Gordon E Mullings Manjack Heights Montserrat

I work on molecular systems with pathway charts and such.-Giggles

  
Richardthughes



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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 11 2009,23:15   

Just won:

12 x Macallan 12 years 750 ml
12 x Remy Martin VSOP 750 ml
12 x Remy Martin 1738 750 ml

at a charity auction. Where's Steve Story when you need him?

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J-Dog



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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 12 2009,07:53   

W00t!  Party at Richard's...

Be sure to take pictures of all the experimentation, and please make sure that no squirrels or sweaters are harmed.

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Alan Fox



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 18 2010,12:00   

I see some of my adopted compatriots managed to sell rather a lot of red bicyclettes to a Mr Gallo.

faux pinot

  
Richardthughes



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 18 2010,12:24   

Joy will soon be telling us that the Prohibition was just a government plot to circumvent the Treaty of Madrid and the Treaty of Versailles...

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Dr.GH



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 18 2010,21:32   

Have any of you found the simple joy (not the nit-wit Joy) of Spanish olives in Jalipano flavored brine nibbled between sips of a good Scotch?

I can strongly recommend. The salt, burn, and bite are perfect.

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Amadan



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 30 2010,09:39   

Further comment would be superfluous.

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Louis



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 30 2010,10:17   

Quote (Amadan @ Mar. 30 2010,14:39)
Further comment would be superfluous.

{sniff}

Sometimes the world is so beautiful I just want to cry.

Louis

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FrankH



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 30 2010,11:01   

Quote (Louis @ Mar. 30 2010,10:17)
Quote (Amadan @ Mar. 30 2010,14:39)
Further comment would be superfluous.

{sniff}

Sometimes the world is so beautiful I just want to cry.

Louis

After I go in for a checkup with the doctor next week, I plan to get lit up as I've been a good boy.  No alcohol, fried food, easy on deserts, back running (back up to 10k at least twice a week), etc.  Yes, life really sucks.  (On another topic, does exercise, eating right really make one live longer or does it just feel that way?0

So I ask the good gent from Wales.  I like the dark stouts and porters.  I also enjoy a good ale, not IPAs though.

What are some of the best you think are out there that I might be able to procure in the US?

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Louis



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 30 2010,12:03   

Quote (FrankH @ Mar. 30 2010,16:01)
Quote (Louis @ Mar. 30 2010,10:17)
Quote (Amadan @ Mar. 30 2010,14:39)
Further comment would be superfluous.

{sniff}

Sometimes the world is so beautiful I just want to cry.

Louis

After I go in for a checkup with the doctor next week, I plan to get lit up as I've been a good boy.  No alcohol, fried food, easy on deserts, back running (back up to 10k at least twice a week), etc.  Yes, life really sucks.  (On another topic, does exercise, eating right really make one live longer or does it just feel that way?0

So I ask the good gent from Wales.  I like the dark stouts and porters.  I also enjoy a good ale, not IPAs though.

What are some of the best you think are out there that I might be able to procure in the US?

Good? No.

Gent? Only with a supporting cast of thousands and a strong tailwind.

From Wales? {Faints with rage}

Guinness. It travels reasonably well, it is reasonably good and very consistent. If you can even get a Mackeson's try that. IMO avoid Murphy's like the plague.

As for ales, well I shall be banished from CAMRA for even thinking it, but some of the American microbrew ales I've tried are not hideously insipid donkey piss. So your domestic market might be an option.

As for English stuff, if you can get anything from the Badger brewery (they seem to have a wide distribution) then give it a go, Golden Champion for a preference. Personally, I love Ringwood beers, but the chances of you getting them in the US are minimal (I haven't checked so could be wrong). If you find anything from Bateman's brewery buy all of it and store it in a fortified camp, then spend the next however long drinking it in a slightly surly way.

However, after a quick search online I found this:

http://www.beerliquors.com/beer/britishbeer.htm

It's a starting point. Boddingtons is piss, avoid. Ditto Murphys and Newcastle Brown. The former is syrupy crap, the latter is a fighting brew you should only drink if you intend violence. Old Speckled Hen should only be drunk from a bottle in an emergency.

The Fullers, Melbourne Bros, Samuel Smiths or Tranquair ales all seem good. Fullers is a decent brewery, the ESB is a nice beer IMO. This place also sells Guinness, unfortunately only the extra stout, which is a bit more real than most people can handle, and isn't the "draught" with which most people are familiar.

They also have a decent selection of European beers. Chimay is a personal fave. Try the Lindemans Lambic beer, it ages like wine and is a real unique joy. If you're feeling adventurous try the wheat beer Hoegaarden (pronounced: "chchcHOOchchcHARTen", with the "ch" being the one from "loch" not "cheese").

Dammit, I want a beer now.

Louis

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Robin



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 30 2010,12:06   

Making me thirsty here...



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 30 2010,12:11   

Quote (Louis @ Mar. 30 2010,12:03)

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Old Speckled Hen should only be drunk from a bottle in an emergency.


Louis


Fortunately we have a lovely little "pub" here near me that gets it on tap. I quite enjoy, and would right now more so...

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Louis



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 30 2010,12:16   

Quote (Robin @ Mar. 30 2010,17:11)
[quote=Louis,Mar. 30 2010,12:03][/quote]
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Old Speckled Hen should only be drunk from a bottle in an emergency.


Louis


Fortunately we have a lovely little "pub" here near me that gets it on tap. I quite enjoy, and would right now more so...

Draught is ok. Bottles always seem to me, and de gustibus non est disputandum, to be lack a certain something.

Louis

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Robin



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 30 2010,12:29   

Quote (Louis @ Mar. 30 2010,12:16)

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Quote (Robin @ Mar. 30 2010,17:11)
Quote (Louis @ Mar. 30 2010,12:03)

 
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Old Speckled Hen should only be drunk from a bottle in an emergency.


Louis


Fortunately we have a lovely little "pub" here near me that gets it on tap. I quite enjoy, and would right now more so...

Draught is ok. Bottles always seem to me, and de gustibus non est disputandum, to be lack a certain something.

Louis


I agree.

I have always wondered about the chemistry in this. Why are kegs and casks so much better for beer (it seems) than bottling? Is it volume related? Do they have to use a slightly different recipe for bottling?  Never quite understood that.

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FrankH



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 30 2010,13:29   

Quote (Robin @ Mar. 30 2010,12:29)
[quote=Louis,Mar. 30 2010,12:16][/quote]
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Quote (Robin @ Mar. 30 2010,17:11)
Quote (Louis @ Mar. 30 2010,12:03)

 
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Old Speckled Hen should only be drunk from a bottle in an emergency.


Louis


Fortunately we have a lovely little "pub" here near me that gets it on tap. I quite enjoy, and would right now more so...

Draught is ok. Bottles always seem to me, and de gustibus non est disputandum, to be lack a certain something.

Louis


I agree.

I have always wondered about the chemistry in this. Why are kegs and casks so much better for beer (it seems) than bottling? Is it volume related? Do they have to use a slightly different recipe for bottling?  Never quite understood that.

None of the above.  Just stinking to non-metric units:

Barrel = 55 gallons (OBTW, how many litres in a barrel)

Bottle = 12 oz.

You know that you can drink far more than one bottle but even in two or three sittings, the barrel might be a bit much.

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Louis



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 30 2010,13:30   

For kegs I'm going to go with vanillin. Anything in wood is going to have more vanillin and similar wood products in it, and thus be a much more "rounded" flavour.

If we ignore contributions to flavour from the "packaging" beer in presurised kegs (metal)/unpressurised casks (wood) will have advantages over bottled beer in (at least) three ways:

1) It is in the dark and therefore unlikely to be lightstruck. If memory serves the Hen bottles are clear glass and thus offer little protection from (UV) light. Also IIRC Hen is a "bitter" bitter, thus has lots of lovely isohumulones to turn into skunky thiols.

2) Aeration and oxygen. The method by which these things are poured aerates them, perhaps allowing for some oxidation of various compounds (not checked the GC profiles of various beers, so cannot comment accurately) and certainly for the formation of bubbles. Everyone knows bubbles make thing taste good! Taste a beer poured through a sparkler as opposed to a flat, open nozzle. It makes a difference.

3) Freshness. The turnaround of keg beer is usually pretty damn fast. Bottles can linger longer.

I have no idea about different recipes for bottles vs kegs, but the above are sufficient to produce big changes in taste.

HTH

Louis

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J-Dog



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 30 2010,13:59   

Quote (Louis @ Mar. 30 2010,13:30)
2) Aeration and oxygen. The method by which these things are poured aerates them, perhaps allowing for some oxidation of various compounds (not checked the GC profiles of various beers, so cannot comment accurately) and certainly for the formation of bubbles. Everyone knows bubbles make thing taste good!   Taste a beer poured through a sparkler as opposed to a flat, open nozzle. It makes a difference.



HTH

Louis

Louis - Is something like this what you are suggesting?  I know it works great for wines.... never considered using for beer.


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Robin



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 30 2010,14:18   

Quote (Louis @ Mar. 30 2010,13:30)

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For kegs I'm going to go with vanillin. Anything in wood is going to have more vanillin and similar wood products in it, and thus be a much more "rounded" flavour.

If we ignore contributions to flavour from the "packaging" beer in presurised kegs (metal)/unpressurised casks (wood) will have advantages over bottled beer in (at least) three ways:

1) It is in the dark and therefore unlikely to be lightstruck. If memory serves the Hen bottles are clear glass and thus offer little protection from (UV) light. Also IIRC Hen is a "bitter" bitter, thus has lots of lovely isohumulones to turn into skunky thiols.

2) Aeration and oxygen. The method by which these things are poured aerates them, perhaps allowing for some oxidation of various compounds (not checked the GC profiles of various beers, so cannot comment accurately) and certainly for the formation of bubbles. Everyone knows bubbles make thing taste good! Taste a beer poured through a sparkler as opposed to a flat, open nozzle. It makes a difference.

3) Freshness. The turnaround of keg beer is usually pretty damn fast. Bottles can linger longer.

I have no idea about different recipes for bottles vs kegs, but the above are sufficient to produce big changes in taste.

HTH

Louis


Ahhhh! Much abliged! That all makes sense. Now I really want a draught!

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Louis



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 30 2010,14:24   

Quote (J-Dog @ Mar. 30 2010,18:59)
Quote (Louis @ Mar. 30 2010,13:30)
2) Aeration and oxygen. The method by which these things are poured aerates them, perhaps allowing for some oxidation of various compounds (not checked the GC profiles of various beers, so cannot comment accurately) and certainly for the formation of bubbles. Everyone knows bubbles make thing taste good!   Taste a beer poured through a sparkler as opposed to a flat, open nozzle. It makes a difference.



HTH

Louis

Louis - Is something like this what you are suggesting?  I know it works great for wines.... never considered using for beer.

[snimage]

Not quite, this wiki article explains everything.

The sparkler goes on the bottom of your beer pipe on a hand pull keg set up (beer engine).

Principle's about the same though.

Louis

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 30 2010,14:32   

Louis - Hmmm... I read your link - thanks - but it refers primarily to beer engines, and accessing the beer from a keg.   At home, I am stuck with drinking bottled beer, even though I prefer to pour it into a glass, and I think that my wine aerator may improve the taste of bottled beer.  

I do believe that this calls for some observation and serious experimentation...

edited for sp

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Louis



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 30 2010,14:44   

Quote (J-Dog @ Mar. 30 2010,19:32)
Louis - Hmmm... I read your link - thanks - but it refers primarily to beer engines, and accessing the beer from a keg.   At home, I am stuck with drinking bottled beer, even though I prefer to pour it into a glass, and I think that my wine aerator may improve the taste of bottled beer.  

I do believe that this calls for some observation and serious experimentation...

edited for sp

I always advocate experimenting with beer.

Louis

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