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stevestory Posts: 10335 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 29 2013,11:01    Yes indeed, how much DOES Jerry Coyne know about biology? Edited by stevestory on Dec. 29 2013,13:47

hotshoe Posts: 42 Joined: Nov. 2012 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 29 2013,11:25    Quote (stevestory @ Dec. 29 2013,11:01) [URL=http://www.uncommondescent.com/intelligent-design/the-fetus-is-a-parasite-abortion-is-like-plucking-out-a-hair-how-much-does-jerry-coyne-rea lly-know-about-biology/]Yes indeed, how much DOES Jerry Coyne know about biology?[/URL] Their crazy long URLs break the links sometimes, right?  I think that's what happened ... Wandered over there and had a read of the Jerry Coyne/abortion farrago.  Torley is a forced-birther female-enslaving fetus-worshipper; who could have guessed? Along the way Torley the corporate-asslicker also manages to find fault with Bishop Sanchez's strongly-worded statement that predatory capitalism (viz America) allows the "wealthy [to] arrange to get all kinds of subsidies, while the working class and the poor struggle to survive" Who could argue with that?  Torley, that's who  Fuck him.

stevestory Posts: 10335 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 29 2013,12:39    Fixed it with a bit.ly redirect. Edited by stevestory on Dec. 29 2013,13:48

Richardthughes Posts: 10760 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 30 2013,10:30    Hat Tip for Deadman: http://www.qwantz.com/index.p....ic=2550 -------------- "Richardthughes, you magnificent bastard, I stand in awe of you..." : Arden Chatfield "You magnificent bastard! " : Louis "ATBC poster child", "I have to agree with Rich.." : DaveTard "I bow to your superior skills" : deadman_932 "...it was Richardthughes making me lie in bed.." : Kristine

Robin Posts: 1431 Joined: Sep. 2009 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 30 2013,12:38    Quote (Richardthughes @ Dec. 30 2013,10:30) Hat Tip for Deadman: http://www.qwantz.com/index.p....ic=2550 Awesome! Hadn't seen that before. -------------- we IDists rule in design for the flagellum and cilium largely because they do look designed.  Bilbo The only reason you reject Thor is because, like a cushion, you bear the imprint of the biggest arse that sat on you. Louis

timothya Posts: 256 Joined: April 2013 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 30 2013,14:09    Robert Byers has this to say at UD concerning a "creationist movie":   Quote The directer here is Jewish and this Jewish presence stands in the way of a movie industry that balances the nations beliefs. It has been sitting there for three days and nobody at the site has criticised him for it.

stevestory Posts: 10335 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 30 2013,18:03    Aside from writing amazingly terrible sentences, Gary's boring so I was trying to think of who from UD we could invite to their own thread here. Not sure, but not Byers. He's just too dumb.

olegt Posts: 1405 Joined: Dec. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 30 2013,21:38    Quote (stevestory @ Dec. 30 2013,18:03) Aside from writing amazingly terrible sentences, Gary's boring so I was trying to think of who from UD we could invite to their own thread here. Not sure, but not Byers. He's just too dumb. There is a new chewing toy at TSZ called phoodoo. Here is a sample of his/her/its writing. A temper tantrum starts here. -------------- If you are not: Galapagos Finch please Logout »

Richardthughes Posts: 10760 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 30 2013,22:08    Quote (olegt @ Dec. 30 2013,21:38) Quote (stevestory @ Dec. 30 2013,18:03) Aside from writing amazingly terrible sentences, Gary's boring so I was trying to think of who from UD we could invite to their own thread here. Not sure, but not Byers. He's just too dumb. There is a new chewing toy at TSZ called phoodoo. Here is a sample of his/her/its writing. A temper tantrum starts here. If he's Joe G's sock, let's not let the cat out of the bag straight away. Do ask him about his life and understanding of math, though. -------------- "Richardthughes, you magnificent bastard, I stand in awe of you..." : Arden Chatfield "You magnificent bastard! " : Louis "ATBC poster child", "I have to agree with Rich.." : DaveTard "I bow to your superior skills" : deadman_932 "...it was Richardthughes making me lie in bed.." : Kristine

Texas Teach Posts: 1466 Joined: April 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 30 2013,23:49    Quote (stevestory @ Dec. 30 2013,18:03) Aside from writing amazingly terrible sentences, Gary's boring so I was trying to think of who from UD we could invite to their own thread here. Not sure, but not Byers. He's just too dumb. I thought we had Byers here for a bit a few years ago.  I can't remember if he got banned, walled, or just bored. -------------- "Creationists think everything Genesis says is true. I don't even think Phil Collins is a good drummer." --J. Carr "I suspect that the English grammar books where you live are outdated" --G. Gaulin

DiEb Posts: 271 Joined: May 2008 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 31 2013,05:59    New's reading skills: In her article Retract that, sir, or face the consequences! Er, maybe., Denyse shows again her attention to details. She writes: "Top ten retractions of 2010, courtesy The Scientist..." While the first number mentioned in the article is indeed 2010, the year about which "The Scientist" is writing is 2013 (much more topical). That's why the journal used the title "Top 10 Retractions of 2013". I mentioned that in a comment over there which died in the moderation queue....

Patrick Posts: 606 Joined: July 2011 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 31 2013,10:42    Quote (Richardthughes @ Dec. 30 2013,23:08) Quote (olegt @ Dec. 30 2013,21:38)   Quote (stevestory @ Dec. 30 2013,18:03) Aside from writing amazingly terrible sentences, Gary's boring so I was trying to think of who from UD we could invite to their own thread here. Not sure, but not Byers. He's just too dumb. There is a new chewing toy at TSZ called phoodoo. Here is a sample of his/her/its writing. A temper tantrum starts here. If he's Joe G's sock, let's not let the cat out of the bag straight away. Do ask him about his life and understanding of math, though. His understanding of probability is on a par with Joe's understanding of set theory, but I don't get the same bluster-covering-up-fear-of-being-exposed-as-ignorant feel from phoodoo's writing.  Perhaps it is just Joe taking the time to preview before posting. No need to be outing people, though.  Regardless of his or her RL identity, phoodoo is a great example of the knowledge and manners possessed by the average  intelligent design creationist. Edited by Patrick on Dec. 31 2013,11:42

JohnW Posts: 2814 Joined: Aug. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 31 2013,11:43    Quote (Patrick @ Dec. 31 2013,08:42) Quote (Richardthughes @ Dec. 30 2013,23:08)   Quote (olegt @ Dec. 30 2013,21:38)   Quote (stevestory @ Dec. 30 2013,18:03) Aside from writing amazingly terrible sentences, Gary's boring so I was trying to think of who from UD we could invite to their own thread here. Not sure, but not Byers. He's just too dumb. There is a new chewing toy at TSZ called phoodoo. Here is a sample of his/her/its writing. A temper tantrum starts here. If he's Joe G's sock, let's not let the cat out of the bag straight away. Do ask him about his life and understanding of math, though. His understanding of probability is on a par with Joe's understanding of set theory, but I don't get the same bluster-covering-up-fear-of-being-exposed-as-ignorant feel from phoodoo's writing.  Perhaps it is just Joe taking the time to preview before posting. No need to be outing people, though.  Regardless of his or her RL identity, phoodoo is a great example of the knowledge and manners possessed by the average  intelligent design creationist. This is certainly Joe-esque: Quote You don’t know what the terminology really means, you just know its convention in your particular circle. ... but I don't think it's Joe.  Joe splutters when he loses it; phoodoo babbles. -------------- Math is just a language of reality. Its a waste of time to know it. - Robert Byers There isn't any probability that the letter d is in the word "mathematics"...  The correct answer would be "not even 0" - JoeG

Occam's Aftershave Posts: 1783 Joined: Feb. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 31 2013,12:15    Don't think it's Joe either but phoodoo sure is an obnoxious, rude, and blinding ignorant asshat.  I especially liked the part where he condescendingly called Dr. Liddle a "smart girl". He fits right in with the other IDiots. -------------- "Science is what got us to the humble place we’re at, and what hard-won progress we might realize comes from science, with ID completely flaccid, religious apologetics bitching from the sidelines." - Eigenstate at UD

Timothy McDougald Posts: 1030 Joined: Dec. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 31 2013,12:21    Quote (Texas Teach @ Dec. 30 2013,23:49) Quote (stevestory @ Dec. 30 2013,18:03) Aside from writing amazingly terrible sentences, Gary's boring so I was trying to think of who from UD we could invite to their own thread here. Not sure, but not Byers. He's just too dumb. I thought we had Byers here for a bit a few years ago.  I can't remember if he got banned, walled, or just bored. Yeah, we did. I think he got bored... -------------- Church burning ebola boy FTK: I Didn't answer your questions because it beats the hell out of me. PaV: I suppose for me to be pried away from what I do to focus long and hard on that particular problem would take, quite honestly, hundreds of thousands of dollars to begin to pique my interest.

JohnW Posts: 2814 Joined: Aug. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 31 2013,12:58    KF: Math is hard: Quote 10  kairosfocus  December 31, 2013 at 7:45 am PPS: Which of these is pi digits, which sky noise, which phone numbers (admittedly the local phone directory is a bit on the scanty side), and why does the pattern stand out so clearly at D and at E: A: 821051141354735739523 B: 733615329964125325790 C: 698312217625358227195 D: 123409876135791113151 E: 113581321345589146235 (Ans: C — sky, A – pi, B – phone, last 2 digits each of line codes.) Quote 17  cantor  December 31, 2013 at 10:45 am Which of these is pi digits… Correct answer: A thru E are pi digits linky -------------- Math is just a language of reality. Its a waste of time to know it. - Robert Byers There isn't any probability that the letter d is in the word "mathematics"...  The correct answer would be "not even 0" - JoeG

Richardthughes Posts: 10760 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 31 2013,13:12    Quote (JohnW @ Dec. 31 2013,12:58) KF: Math is hard:   Quote 10  kairosfocus  December 31, 2013 at 7:45 am PPS: Which of these is pi digits, which sky noise, which phone numbers (admittedly the local phone directory is a bit on the scanty side), and why does the pattern stand out so clearly at D and at E: A: 821051141354735739523 B: 733615329964125325790 C: 698312217625358227195 D: 123409876135791113151 E: 113581321345589146235 (Ans: C — sky, A – pi, B – phone, last 2 digits each of line codes.)   Quote 17  cantor  December 31, 2013 at 10:45 am Which of these is pi digits… Correct answer: A thru E are pi digits linky Oh this could be pseudo-quasi-latching weasel good! -------------- "Richardthughes, you magnificent bastard, I stand in awe of you..." : Arden Chatfield "You magnificent bastard! " : Louis "ATBC poster child", "I have to agree with Rich.." : DaveTard "I bow to your superior skills" : deadman_932 "...it was Richardthughes making me lie in bed.." : Kristine

steve_h Posts: 534 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 31 2013,13:39    Quote (JohnW @ Dec. 31 2013,19:58) KF: Math is hard:     Quote 10  kairosfocus  December 31, 2013 at 7:45 am PPS: Which of these is pi digits, which sky noise, which phone numbers (admittedly the local phone directory is a bit on the scanty side), and why does the pattern stand out so clearly at D and at E: A: 821051141354735739523 B: 733615329964125325790 C: 698312217625358227195 D: 123409876135791113151 E: 113581321345589146235 (Ans: C — sky, A – pi, B – phone, last 2 digits each of line codes.)     Quote 17  cantor  December 31, 2013 at 10:45 am Which of these is pi digits… Correct answer: A thru E are pi digits linky A-E could also be telephone numbers (by taking the last few digits of several numbers) E looks like it could be the famous Fibonacci sequence formed by adding the previous two numbers to get a new one: 1 + 1 = 3 1 + 3 = 5 .. 55 + 89 = 146 etc.

JohnW Posts: 2814 Joined: Aug. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 31 2013,15:29    Quote (Richardthughes @ Dec. 31 2013,11:12) Quote (JohnW @ Dec. 31 2013,12:58) KF: Math is hard:   Quote 10  kairosfocus  December 31, 2013 at 7:45 am PPS: Which of these is pi digits, which sky noise, which phone numbers (admittedly the local phone directory is a bit on the scanty side), and why does the pattern stand out so clearly at D and at E: A: 821051141354735739523 B: 733615329964125325790 C: 698312217625358227195 D: 123409876135791113151 E: 113581321345589146235 (Ans: C — sky, A – pi, B – phone, last 2 digits each of line codes.)   Quote 17  cantor  December 31, 2013 at 10:45 am Which of these is pi digits… Correct answer: A thru E are pi digits linky Oh this could be pseudo-quasi-latching weasel good! Joe's already commented on that thread, so we could be heading for another "largest known number" tardfest. -------------- Math is just a language of reality. Its a waste of time to know it. - Robert Byers There isn't any probability that the letter d is in the word "mathematics"...  The correct answer would be "not even 0" - JoeG

Bob O'H Posts: 2172 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 31 2013,15:44    Quote (JohnW @ Dec. 31 2013,12:58) KF: Math is hard:   Quote 10  kairosfocus  December 31, 2013 at 7:45 am PPS: Which of these is pi digits, which sky noise, which phone numbers (admittedly the local phone directory is a bit on the scanty side), and why does the pattern stand out so clearly at D and at E: A: 821051141354735739523 B: 733615329964125325790 C: 698312217625358227195 D: 123409876135791113151 E: 113581321345589146235 (Ans: C — sky, A – pi, B – phone, last 2 digits each of line codes.)   Quote 17  cantor  December 31, 2013 at 10:45 am Which of these is pi digits… Correct answer: A thru E are pi digits linky Of course Cantor would know that. (actually does anyone know a proof of Cantor's statement? It seems reasonable, but number theory isn't my area) -------------- It is fun to dip into the various threads to watch cluelessness at work in the hands of the confident exponent. - Soapy Sam (so say we all)

socle Posts: 322 Joined: July 2009 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 31 2013,16:24    Quote (Bob O'H @ Dec. 31 2013,15:44)     Quote (JohnW @ Dec. 31 2013,12:58) KF: Math is hard:         Quote 10  kairosfocus  December 31, 2013 at 7:45 am PPS: Which of these is pi digits, which sky noise, which phone numbers (admittedly the local phone directory is a bit on the scanty side), and why does the pattern stand out so clearly at D and at E: A: 821051141354735739523 B: 733615329964125325790 C: 698312217625358227195 D: 123409876135791113151 E: 113581321345589146235 (Ans: C — sky, A – pi, B – phone, last 2 digits each of line codes.)         Quote 17  cantor  December 31, 2013 at 10:45 am Which of these is pi digits… Correct answer: A thru E are pi digits linky Of course Cantor would know that. (actually does anyone know a proof of Cantor's statement? It seems reasonable, but number theory isn't my area) I am not a number theorist either, but AFAIK, the general problem remains unsolved.  See here: http://tinyurl.com/9oa3kjw....9oa3kjw Only the first string of digits that KF posted occurs in the first 200 million digits of pi according to http://www.angio.net/pi....p....i....pi

Patrick Posts: 606 Joined: July 2011 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 31 2013,17:03    Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Dec. 31 2013,13:15) Don't think it's Joe either but phoodoo sure is an obnoxious, rude, and blinding ignorant asshat.  I especially liked the part where he condescendingly called Dr. Liddle a "smart girl". He fits right in with the other IDiots. Can't be PaV, then.  He didn't tell her to go away. The intelligent design creationists work hard, albeit ineffectually, to hide their fundamentalist dogma behind a facade of "science".  One would think they'd realize the importance of concealing their misogyny, too.

rossum Posts: 234 Joined: Dec. 2008 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 01 2014,04:25    Quote (Bob O'H @ Dec. 31 2013,15:44) Of course Cantor would know that. (actually does anyone know a proof of Cantor's statement? It seems reasonable, but number theory isn't my area) Cantor is correct.  Pi gives an infinite stream of digits with no repeating pattern.  Any finite string of digits will be found in Pi an infinite number of times.  Of course, the longer your search string the more digits if Pi you have to calculate to find it. -------------- The ultimate truth is that there is no ultimate truth.

DiEb Posts: 271 Joined: May 2008 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 01 2014,07:40    Quote (rossum @ Jan. 01 2014,10:25) Quote (Bob O'H @ Dec. 31 2013,15:44) Of course Cantor would know that. (actually does anyone know a proof of Cantor's statement? It seems reasonable, but number theory isn't my area) Cantor is correct.  Pi gives an infinite stream of digits with no repeating pattern.  Any finite string of digits will be found in Pi an infinite number of times.  Of course, the longer your search string the more digits if Pi you have to calculate to find it. I'm afraid that it isn't proven yet that pi is a normal number (though most mathematicians would bet that it is one...) At the moment we cannot say that each finite number can be found in the decimal representation of pi - but every short string of numbers (birthdates, etc.) has been found :-)

steve_h Posts: 534 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 01 2014,11:35    Trivially, all are pi-digits. Maybe not consecutive pi-digits. If he wanted to know which of the sequences corresponded to a range of consecutive digits found in the decimal representation of pi, I'm sure KF would have asked for that :)

rossum Posts: 234 Joined: Dec. 2008 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 01 2014,15:35    Quote (DiEb @ Jan. 01 2014,07:40) I'm afraid that it isn't proven yet that pi is a normal number (though most mathematicians would bet that it is one...) At the moment we cannot say that each finite number can be found in the decimal representation of pi - but every short string of numbers (birthdates, etc.) has been found :-) I'm not sure that full normality is required.  Only base 10 needs to be looked at, and even then, equal proportions of each digit are not required.  If, for example, '1' occurred at twice the frequency of any other digit, then all the specified strings would still appear somewhere in Pi.  You might just have to search further to find them. -------------- The ultimate truth is that there is no ultimate truth.

Richardthughes Posts: 10760 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 01 2014,20:08    KF: Quote kairosfocusJanuary 1, 2014 at 7:52 pm PS: a 100:1 hits to comments ratio is interesting . . . It's certainly support for intelligent censorship... -------------- "Richardthughes, you magnificent bastard, I stand in awe of you..." : Arden Chatfield "You magnificent bastard! " : Louis "ATBC poster child", "I have to agree with Rich.." : DaveTard "I bow to your superior skills" : deadman_932 "...it was Richardthughes making me lie in bed.." : Kristine

sparc Posts: 1970 Joined: April 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 02 2014,00:10    Since you mention Kairosfocus: In 2013 Jerry Coyne enjoyed 8 views from  Vatican City but only a single one from Montserrat. Still, we've seen a 2000+ word posts on Coyne at UD and Kairosfocus from our montserratian friend. -------------- "[...] the type of information we find in living systems is beyond the creative means of purely material processes [...] Who or what is such an ultimate source of information? [...] from a theistic perspective, such an information source would presumably have to be God." - William Dembski -

Richardthughes Posts: 10760 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 02 2014,00:18    Slimey Sal will let his dogma mangle every branch of accepted physics: http://www.uncommondescent.com/physics....-at-you -------------- "Richardthughes, you magnificent bastard, I stand in awe of you..." : Arden Chatfield "You magnificent bastard! " : Louis "ATBC poster child", "I have to agree with Rich.." : DaveTard "I bow to your superior skills" : deadman_932 "...it was Richardthughes making me lie in bed.." : Kristine

timothya Posts: 256 Joined: April 2013 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 02 2014,02:48    Didn't the results of the Sloan Deep Sky Survey contradict Halton Arp's cosmological hypothesis?

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