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Posted: Dec. 29 2013,11:01

Yes indeed, how much DOES Jerry Coyne know about biology?

Edited by stevestory on Dec. 29 2013,13:47

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Posted: Dec. 29 2013,11:25

Quote (stevestory @ Dec. 29 2013,11:01)

[URL=http://www.uncommondescent.com/intelligent-design/the-fetus-is-a-parasite-abortion-is-like-plucking-out-a-hair-how-much-does-jerry-coyne-rea

lly-know-about-biology/]Yes indeed, how much DOES Jerry Coyne know about biology?[/URL]

Their crazy long URLs break the links sometimes, right? I think that's what happened ...
Wandered over there and had a read of the Jerry Coyne/abortion farrago. Torley is a forced-birther female-enslaving fetus-worshipper; who could have guessed?

Along the way Torley the corporate-asslicker also manages to find fault with Bishop Sanchez's strongly-worded statement that predatory capitalism (viz America) allows the "wealthy [to] arrange to get all kinds of subsidies, while the working class and the poor struggle to survive"

Who could argue with that? Torley, that's who Fuck him.

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Posted: Dec. 29 2013,12:39

Fixed it with a bit.ly redirect.

Edited by stevestory on Dec. 29 2013,13:48

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Posted: Dec. 30 2013,10:30

Hat Tip for Deadman:

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Posted: Dec. 30 2013,12:38

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Hat Tip for Deadman:

http://www.qwantz.com/index.p....ic=2550

Awesome! Hadn't seen that before.

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Posted: Dec. 30 2013,14:09

Robert Byers has this to say at UD concerning a "creationist movie":

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The directer here is Jewish and this Jewish presence stands in the way of a movie industry that balances the nations beliefs.

It has been sitting there for three days and nobody at the site has criticised him for it.

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Posted: Dec. 30 2013,18:03

Aside from writing amazingly terrible sentences, Gary's boring so I was trying to think of who from UD we could invite to their own thread here. Not sure, but not Byers. He's just too dumb.

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Posted: Dec. 30 2013,21:38

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Aside from writing amazingly terrible sentences, Gary's boring so I was trying to think of who from UD we could invite to their own thread here. Not sure, but not Byers. He's just too dumb.

There is a new chewing toy at TSZ called phoodoo. Here is a sample of his/her/its writing. A temper tantrum starts here.

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Posted: Dec. 30 2013,22:08

Quote (olegt @ Dec. 30 2013,21:38)

Quote (stevestory @ Dec. 30 2013,18:03)

Aside from writing amazingly terrible sentences, Gary's boring so I was trying to think of who from UD we could invite to their own thread here. Not sure, but not Byers. He's just too dumb.

There is a new chewing toy at TSZ called phoodoo. Here is a sample of his/her/its writing. A temper tantrum starts here.

If he's Joe G's sock, let's not let the cat out of the bag straight away. Do ask him about his life and understanding of math, though.

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Posted: Dec. 30 2013,23:49

Quote (stevestory @ Dec. 30 2013,18:03)

Aside from writing amazingly terrible sentences, Gary's boring so I was trying to think of who from UD we could invite to their own thread here. Not sure, but not Byers. He's just too dumb.

I thought we had Byers here for a bit a few years ago. I can't remember if he got banned, walled, or just bored.

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Posted: Dec. 31 2013,05:59

New's reading skills:

In her article Retract that, sir, or face the consequences! Er, maybe., Denyse shows again her attention to details. She writes: "Top ten retractions of 2010, courtesy The Scientist..." While the first number mentioned in the article is indeed 2010, the year about which "The Scientist" is writing is 2013 (much more topical). That's why the journal used the title "Top 10 Retractions of 2013".

I mentioned that in a comment over there which died in the moderation queue....

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Posted: Dec. 31 2013,10:42

Quote (Richardthughes @ Dec. 30 2013,23:08)

Quote (olegt @ Dec. 30 2013,21:38)

Quote (stevestory @ Dec. 30 2013,18:03)

Aside from writing amazingly terrible sentences, Gary's boring so I was trying to think of who from UD we could invite to their own thread here. Not sure, but not Byers. He's just too dumb.

There is a new chewing toy at TSZ called phoodoo. Here is a sample of his/her/its writing. A temper tantrum starts here.

If he's Joe G's sock, let's not let the cat out of the bag straight away. Do ask him about his life and understanding of math, though.

His understanding of probability is on a par with Joe's understanding of set theory, but I don't get the same bluster-covering-up-fear-of-being-exposed-as-ignorant feel from phoodoo's writing. �Perhaps it is just Joe taking the time to preview before posting.

No need to be outing people, though. �Regardless of his or her RL identity, phoodoo is a great example of the knowledge and manners possessed by the average �intelligent design creationist.

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Posted: Dec. 31 2013,11:43

Quote (Patrick @ Dec. 31 2013,08:42)

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Quote (stevestory @ Dec. 30 2013,18:03)

Aside from writing amazingly terrible sentences, Gary's boring so I was trying to think of who from UD we could invite to their own thread here. Not sure, but not Byers. He's just too dumb.

There is a new chewing toy at TSZ called phoodoo. Here is a sample of his/her/its writing. A temper tantrum starts here.

If he's Joe G's sock, let's not let the cat out of the bag straight away. Do ask him about his life and understanding of math, though.

His understanding of probability is on a par with Joe's understanding of set theory, but I don't get the same bluster-covering-up-fear-of-being-exposed-as-ignorant feel from phoodoo's writing. �Perhaps it is just Joe taking the time to preview before posting.

No need to be outing people, though. �Regardless of his or her RL identity, phoodoo is a great example of the knowledge and manners possessed by the average �intelligent design creationist.

This is certainly Joe-esque:

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You don�t know what the terminology really means, you just know its convention in your particular circle.

... but I don't think it's Joe. Joe splutters when he loses it; phoodoo babbles.

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Posted: Dec. 31 2013,12:15

Don't think it's Joe either but phoodoo sure is an obnoxious, rude, and blinding ignorant asshat. �I especially liked the part where he condescendingly called Dr. Liddle a "smart girl".

He fits right in with the other IDiots.

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Posted: Dec. 31 2013,12:21

Quote (Texas Teach @ Dec. 30 2013,23:49)

Quote (stevestory @ Dec. 30 2013,18:03)

Aside from writing amazingly terrible sentences, Gary's boring so I was trying to think of who from UD we could invite to their own thread here. Not sure, but not Byers. He's just too dumb.

I thought we had Byers here for a bit a few years ago. �I can't remember if he got banned, walled, or just bored.

Yeah, we did. I think he got bored...

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Posted: Dec. 31 2013,12:58

KF: Math is hard:

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10 �kairosfocus �December 31, 2013 at 7:45 am

PPS: Which of these is pi digits, which sky noise, which phone numbers (admittedly the local phone directory is a bit on the scanty side), and why does the pattern stand out so clearly at D and at E:

A: 821051141354735739523

B: 733615329964125325790

C: 698312217625358227195

D: 123409876135791113151

E: 113581321345589146235

(Ans: C � sky, A � pi, B � phone, last 2 digits each of line codes.)

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17 �cantor �December 31, 2013 at 10:45 am

Which of these is pi digits�

Correct answer: A thru E are pi digits

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Posted: Dec. 31 2013,13:12

Quote (JohnW @ Dec. 31 2013,12:58)

KF: Math is hard:

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10 �kairosfocus �December 31, 2013 at 7:45 am

PPS: Which of these is pi digits, which sky noise, which phone numbers (admittedly the local phone directory is a bit on the scanty side), and why does the pattern stand out so clearly at D and at E:

A: 821051141354735739523

B: 733615329964125325790

C: 698312217625358227195

D: 123409876135791113151

E: 113581321345589146235

(Ans: C � sky, A � pi, B � phone, last 2 digits each of line codes.)

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17 �cantor �December 31, 2013 at 10:45 am

Which of these is pi digits�

Correct answer: A thru E are pi digits

Oh this could be pseudo-quasi-latching weasel good!

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Posted: Dec. 31 2013,13:39

Quote (JohnW @ Dec. 31 2013,19:58)

KF: Math is hard:
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10 �kairosfocus �December 31, 2013 at 7:45 am

PPS: Which of these is pi digits, which sky noise, which phone numbers (admittedly the local phone directory is a bit on the scanty side), and why does the pattern stand out so clearly at D and at E:

A: 821051141354735739523

B: 733615329964125325790

C: 698312217625358227195

D: 123409876135791113151

E: 113581321345589146235

(Ans: C � sky, A � pi, B � phone, last 2 digits each of line codes.)

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17 �cantor �December 31, 2013 at 10:45 am

Which of these is pi digits�

Correct answer: A thru E are pi digits

A-E could also be telephone numbers (by taking the last few digits of several numbers)

E looks like it could be the famous Fibonacci sequence formed by adding the previous two numbers to get a new one:

1 + 1 = 3
1 + 3 = 5
..
55 + 89 = 146
etc.

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Posted: Dec. 31 2013,15:29

Quote (Richardthughes @ Dec. 31 2013,11:12)

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KF: Math is hard:
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10 �kairosfocus �December 31, 2013 at 7:45 am

PPS: Which of these is pi digits, which sky noise, which phone numbers (admittedly the local phone directory is a bit on the scanty side), and why does the pattern stand out so clearly at D and at E:

A: 821051141354735739523

B: 733615329964125325790

C: 698312217625358227195

D: 123409876135791113151

E: 113581321345589146235

(Ans: C � sky, A � pi, B � phone, last 2 digits each of line codes.)

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17 �cantor �December 31, 2013 at 10:45 am

Which of these is pi digits�

Correct answer: A thru E are pi digits

Oh this could be pseudo-quasi-latching weasel good!

Joe's already commented on that thread, so we could be heading for another "largest known number" tardfest.

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Posted: Dec. 31 2013,15:44

Quote (JohnW @ Dec. 31 2013,12:58)

KF: Math is hard:

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10 �kairosfocus �December 31, 2013 at 7:45 am

PPS: Which of these is pi digits, which sky noise, which phone numbers (admittedly the local phone directory is a bit on the scanty side), and why does the pattern stand out so clearly at D and at E:

A: 821051141354735739523

B: 733615329964125325790

C: 698312217625358227195

D: 123409876135791113151

E: 113581321345589146235

(Ans: C � sky, A � pi, B � phone, last 2 digits each of line codes.)

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17 �cantor �December 31, 2013 at 10:45 am

Which of these is pi digits�

Correct answer: A thru E are pi digits

Of course Cantor would know that.

(actually does anyone know a proof of Cantor's statement? It seems reasonable, but number theory isn't my area)

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Posted: Dec. 31 2013,16:24

Quote (Bob O'H @ Dec. 31 2013,15:44)

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KF: Math is hard:
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10 �kairosfocus �December 31, 2013 at 7:45 am

PPS: Which of these is pi digits, which sky noise, which phone numbers (admittedly the local phone directory is a bit on the scanty side), and why does the pattern stand out so clearly at D and at E:

A: 821051141354735739523

B: 733615329964125325790

C: 698312217625358227195

D: 123409876135791113151

E: 113581321345589146235

(Ans: C � sky, A � pi, B � phone, last 2 digits each of line codes.)

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17 �cantor �December 31, 2013 at 10:45 am

Which of these is pi digits�

Correct answer: A thru E are pi digits

Of course Cantor would know that.

(actually does anyone know a proof of Cantor's statement? It seems reasonable, but number theory isn't my area)

I am not a number theorist either, but AFAIK, the general problem remains unsolved. �See here: http://tinyurl.com/9oa3kjw....9oa3kjw

Only the first string of digits that KF posted occurs in the first 200 million digits of pi according to http://www.angio.net/pi....p....i....pi

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Posted: Dec. 31 2013,17:03

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Don't think it's Joe either but phoodoo sure is an obnoxious, rude, and blinding ignorant asshat. �I especially liked the part where he condescendingly called Dr. Liddle a "smart girl".

He fits right in with the other IDiots.

Can't be PaV, then. He didn't tell her to go away.

The intelligent design creationists work hard, albeit ineffectually, to hide their fundamentalist dogma behind a facade of "science". One would think they'd realize the importance of concealing their misogyny, too.

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Posted: Jan. 01 2014,04:25

Quote (Bob O'H @ Dec. 31 2013,15:44)

Of course Cantor would know that.

(actually does anyone know a proof of Cantor's statement? It seems reasonable, but number theory isn't my area)

Cantor is correct. �Pi gives an infinite stream of digits with no repeating pattern. �Any finite string of digits will be found in Pi an infinite number of times. �Of course, the longer your search string the more digits if Pi you have to calculate to find it.

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Posted: Jan. 01 2014,07:40

Quote (rossum @ Jan. 01 2014,10:25)

Quote (Bob O'H @ Dec. 31 2013,15:44)

Of course Cantor would know that.

(actually does anyone know a proof of Cantor's statement? It seems reasonable, but number theory isn't my area)

Cantor is correct. �Pi gives an infinite stream of digits with no repeating pattern. �Any finite string of digits will be found in Pi an infinite number of times. �Of course, the longer your search string the more digits if Pi you have to calculate to find it.

I'm afraid that it isn't proven yet that pi is a normal number (though most mathematicians would bet that it is one...) At the moment we cannot say that each finite number can be found in the decimal representation of pi - but every short string of numbers (birthdates, etc.) has been found :-)

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Posted: Jan. 01 2014,11:35

Trivially, all are pi-digits. Maybe not consecutive pi-digits. If he wanted to know which of the sequences corresponded to a range of consecutive digits found in the decimal representation of pi, I'm sure KF would have asked for that :)

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Posted: Jan. 01 2014,15:35

Quote (DiEb @ Jan. 01 2014,07:40)

I'm afraid that it isn't proven yet that pi is a normal number (though most mathematicians would bet that it is one...) At the moment we cannot say that each finite number can be found in the decimal representation of pi - but every short string of numbers (birthdates, etc.) has been found :-)

I'm not sure that full normality is required. �Only base 10 needs to be looked at, and even then, equal proportions of each digit are not required. �If, for example, '1' occurred at twice the frequency of any other digit, then all the specified strings would still appear somewhere in Pi. �You might just have to search further to find them.

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Posted: Jan. 01 2014,20:08

KF:

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kairosfocusJanuary 1, 2014 at 7:52 pm
PS: a 100:1 hits to comments ratio is interesting . . .

It's certainly support for intelligent censorship...

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Posted: Jan. 02 2014,00:10

Since you mention Kairosfocus:
In 2013 Jerry Coyne enjoyed 8 views from Vatican City but
only a single one from Montserrat.
Still, we've seen a 2000+ word posts on Coyne at UD and Kairosfocus from our montserratian friend.

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Posted: Jan. 02 2014,00:18

Slimey Sal will let his dogma mangle every branch of accepted physics:

http://www.uncommondescent.com/physics....-at-you

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