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J-Dog



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(Permalink) Posted: July 01 2012,10:30   

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Heck, you could go through our recommended booklist and give appropriate ID books to friends for Christmas, Hanukkah, birthdays, or other holidays.

The perfect gift for 28 October, the Feast of St. Jude!

Amadan - Thanks for the memory - I think!  (I thought I had blocked that all out.)  All that Good Catholic Education was not wasted on me -I figured it out - BEFORE i googled it to make sure.

After all, our 5th grade teacher Sister Mary Mother of Pain could have taken that day off to say a novena for our poor lost souls, and missed the Martyr Of The Day reading.

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Gullibility is not a virtue - Quidam on Dembski's belief in the Bible Code Faith Healers & ID 7/08

UD is an Unnatural Douchemagnet. - richardthughes 7/11

  
J-Dog



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(Permalink) Posted: July 01 2012,10:30   

DOUBLE POST - OH NOES

Edited by J-Dog on July 01 2012,10:31

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Come on Tough Guy, do the little dance of ID impotence you do so well. - Louis to Joe G 2/10

Gullibility is not a virtue - Quidam on Dembski's belief in the Bible Code Faith Healers & ID 7/08

UD is an Unnatural Douchemagnet. - richardthughes 7/11

  
fnxtr



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(Permalink) Posted: July 01 2012,12:21   

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Casey Luskin on What Can YOU Do to Support Intelligent Design?    
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liking Discovery Institute's Center for Science & Culture on Facebook of course
If Casey thinks that 1.355 likes are impressive he should have a look at the NCSE's facebook pages    
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You could also become a follower of our Twitter account
It doesn't get much better. Currently 2.169 are currently following the DI on twitter while 4.094 are reading NCSE's tweets. And how desperate does one have be to state:    
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Heck, you could go through our recommended booklist and give appropriate ID books to friends for Christmas, Hanukkah, birthdays, or other holidays.

Or you could do some fucking science.

Oh. Wait... never mind.

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sparc



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(Permalink) Posted: July 01 2012,12:35   

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Heck, you could go through our recommended booklist and give appropriate ID books to friends for Christmas, Hanukkah, birthdays, or other holidays.

The perfect gift for 28 October, the Feast of St. Jude!

It went un-noticed 2012. Thus you all should try to avoid missing Paul Nelson Day again.

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"[...] the type of information we find in living systems is beyond the creative means of purely material processes [...] Who or what is such an ultimate source of information? [...] from a theistic perspective, such an information source would presumably have to be God."

- William Dembski -

   
Henry J



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(Permalink) Posted: July 01 2012,22:47   

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Heck, you could go through our recommended booklist and give appropriate ID books to friends for Christmas, Hanukkah, birthdays, or other holidays.


Is that for people with birdcages?

Henry

  
Wesley R. Elsberry



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(Permalink) Posted: July 01 2012,23:30   

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Or you could do some fucking science.

Oh. Wait... never mind.

Kinsey? Masters and Johnson? The right-wing crowd doesn't usually like that sort of thing.

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fnxtr



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(Permalink) Posted: July 02 2012,02:47   

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Or you could do some fucking science.

Oh. Wait... never mind.

Kinsey? Masters and Johnson? The right-wing crowd doesn't usually like that sort of thing.

Or in this particular case, Sheer Hype.

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Richardthughes



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(Permalink) Posted: July 18 2012,13:00   

My comment here:

http://www.evolutionnews.org/2012....91.html

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John West - you say "...Snarky comments about people's motives (or false claims about ENV's moderation policies) are not appropriate...".

Why then does the article lead off with "The media that loyally serve Big Science are at it again, overstating the finds of a scientific paper to promote an evolutionary icon."?

Thanks,

Rich


Let's see if it makes it through.

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Richardthughes



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(Permalink) Posted: July 18 2012,16:24   

Also (H/T Carl Zimmer) check out teh_Butthurt here:

http://www.facebook.com/Biologi....=stream

in the "A Veil Is Drawn Over Our Origin as Human Beings
" thread.

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"You magnificent bastard! " : Louis
"ATBC poster child", "I have to agree with Rich.." : DaveTard
"I bow to your superior skills" : deadman_932
"...it was Richardthughes making me lie in bed.." : Kristine

  
olegt



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(Permalink) Posted: July 18 2012,17:47   

Quote (Richardthughes @ July 18 2012,16:24)
Also (H/T Carl Zimmer) check out teh_Butthurt here:

http://www.facebook.com/Biologi....=stream

in the "A Veil Is Drawn Over Our Origin as Human Beings
" thread.

Direct link: goo.gl/OoYSc

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midwifetoad



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(Permalink) Posted: July 18 2012,18:32   

BI is the Bernie Madoff of intellectual discourse.

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Kattarina98



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(Permalink) Posted: July 19 2012,06:28   

Quote (Richardthughes @ July 18 2012,13:00)
My comment here:

http://www.evolutionnews.org/2012.......91.html

   
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John West - you say "...Snarky comments about people's motives (or false claims about ENV's moderation policies) are not appropriate...".

Why then does the article lead off with "The media that loyally serve Big Science are at it again, overstating the finds of a scientific paper to promote an evolutionary icon."?

Thanks,

Rich


Let's see if it makes it through.

It did.

Obviously, Luskin doesn't even pretend to do some ID argumentation anymore; it's plain old-fashioned creationism: Birds say "We are no stinkin' dinosaurs."

The first commenter points out a quotemine - well done, Casey!
And then Diogenes shreds Casey to bits.

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Freddie



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(Permalink) Posted: July 19 2012,07:04   

I see Doug Axe has responded to Paul McBride's review of his book.

Thou Shalt Not Put Evolution To The Test

It seems to be of the "Any aspect of the transition [... from apes to humans] that requires two or more mutations to act in combination in order to increase fitness would take way too long (>100 million years)." variety.

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Joe: As for the authors of the books in the Bible, well the OT was authored by Moses and the NT was authored by various people.
Byers: The eskimo would not need hairy hair growth as hair, I say, is for keeping people dry. Not warm.

  
midwifetoad



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(Permalink) Posted: July 19 2012,09:01   

Axe sharpens his Edge.

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Tracy P. Hamilton



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(Permalink) Posted: July 19 2012,09:04   

Quote (Freddie @ July 19 2012,07:04)
I see Doug Axe has responded to Paul McBride's review of his book.

Thou Shalt Not Put Evolution To The Test

It seems to be of the "Any aspect of the transition [... from apes to humans] that requires two or more mutations to act in combination in order to increase fitness would take way too long (>100 million years)." variety.

What a Dumb Axe!

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Richardthughes



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(Permalink) Posted: July 19 2012,11:06   

Quote (olegt @ July 18 2012,17:47)
Quote (Richardthughes @ July 18 2012,16:24)
Also (H/T Carl Zimmer) check out teh_Butthurt here:

http://www.facebook.com/Biologi....=stream

in the "A Veil Is Drawn Over Our Origin as Human Beings
" thread.

Direct link: goo.gl/OoYSc

P/T comments:

http://pandasthumb.org/archive....omments

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"You magnificent bastard! " : Louis
"ATBC poster child", "I have to agree with Rich.." : DaveTard
"I bow to your superior skills" : deadman_932
"...it was Richardthughes making me lie in bed.." : Kristine

  
Richardthughes



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(Permalink) Posted: July 19 2012,11:30   

Extra bonus:

http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/loom....ionists

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"You magnificent bastard! " : Louis
"ATBC poster child", "I have to agree with Rich.." : DaveTard
"I bow to your superior skills" : deadman_932
"...it was Richardthughes making me lie in bed.." : Kristine

  
olegt



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(Permalink) Posted: July 19 2012,11:57   

Quote (Richardthughes @ July 19 2012,11:30)
Extra bonus:

[URL=http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/loom/2012/07/19/the-mystery-of-the-missing-chromosome-with-a-special-guest-appearance-from-facebook-creati

onists/]http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/loom....ionists[/URL]

Broken link fixed: goo.gl/fstNs

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(Permalink) Posted: July 19 2012,12:04   

Quote (Richardthughes @ July 19 2012,11:30)
Extra bonus:

[URL=http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/loom/2012/07/19/the-mystery-of-the-missing-chromosome-with-a-special-guest-appearance-from-facebook-creati

onists/]http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/loom....ionists[/URL]

That's a vorpal sword right there...

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I also mentioned that He'd have to give me a thorough explanation as to *why* I must "eat human babies".
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if there are even critical flaws in Gauger’s work, the evo mat narrative cannot stand
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oldmanintheskydidntdoit



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(Permalink) Posted: July 19 2012,12:16   

I think this could count as a Thursday meltdown for the DI/BI

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I also mentioned that He'd have to give me a thorough explanation as to *why* I must "eat human babies".
FTK

if there are even critical flaws in Gauger’s work, the evo mat narrative cannot stand
Gordon Mullings

  
olegt



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(Permalink) Posted: July 19 2012,13:30   

A new post at ENV begins with a healthy dose of stupid:
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In his book No Free Lunch, Bill Dembski demonstrated that no evolutionary algorithm is superior to a random search. Yet many animals catch prey with what appears to be a random walk through a noisy environment. How do they do it?


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(Permalink) Posted: July 19 2012,13:40   

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A new post at ENV begins with a healthy dose of stupid:
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In his book No Free Lunch, Bill Dembski demonstrated that no evolutionary algorithm is superior to a random search. Yet many animals catch prey with what appears to be a random walk through a noisy environment. How do they do it?

Interesting. They seem to have allowed Denyse to post, with her characteristic brilliance.

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OgreMkV



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(Permalink) Posted: July 19 2012,14:15   

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A new post at ENV begins with a healthy dose of stupid:
 
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In his book No Free Lunch, Bill Dembski demonstrated that no evolutionary algorithm is superior to a random search. Yet many animals catch prey with what appears to be a random walk through a noisy environment. How do they do it?

Interesting. They seem to have allowed Denyse to post, with her characteristic brilliance.

I can also 'demonstrate' that 1+1=1.  Doesn't mean that it actually works in the real world.

I don't even have to wonder if Dembski would be willing to actually take a challenge on that.  He's much too great a coward.

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Henry J



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(Permalink) Posted: July 19 2012,14:54   

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I can also 'demonstrate' that 1+1=1.  Doesn't mean that it actually works in the real world.

Boolean arithmetic?  :p

  
olegt



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(Permalink) Posted: July 19 2012,17:14   

Quote (midwifetoad @ July 19 2012,13:40)
Quote (olegt @ July 19 2012,13:30)
A new post at ENV begins with a healthy dose of stupid:
 
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In his book No Free Lunch, Bill Dembski demonstrated that no evolutionary algorithm is superior to a random search. Yet many animals catch prey with what appears to be a random walk through a noisy environment. How do they do it?

Interesting. They seem to have allowed Denyse to post, with her characteristic brilliance.

It appears that the anonymous editor of ENV is David Klinghoffer. See this post by Carl Zimmer: The Mystery of the Missing Chromosomes, Continued: An Update From Your Preening Blogger.

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OgreMkV



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(Permalink) Posted: July 20 2012,08:46   

Quote (Henry J @ July 19 2012,14:54)
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I can also 'demonstrate' that 1+1=1.  Doesn't mean that it actually works in the real world.

Boolean arithmetic?  :p

a = b

a^2 = ba

a^2 - b^2 = ba - b^2

(a+b)(a-b) = b(a-b)

a+b = b

If a and b are 1, then 1+1=1.

Hey Joe, can you figure out why this doesn't actually work?

I doubt it, this is the same kind of mathematical 'proof' that Dembski uses and hopes no one will notice.

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Richardthughes



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(Permalink) Posted: July 20 2012,10:46   

UD having a good cry about it - and so up pops Carl Zimmer!

http://www.uncommondescent.com/intelli....origins

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Henry J



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(Permalink) Posted: July 20 2012,10:56   

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Hey Joe, can you figure out why this doesn't actually work?

It's basic algebra.

  
OgreMkV



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(Permalink) Posted: July 20 2012,11:29   

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Hey Joe, can you figure out why this doesn't actually work?

It's basic algebra.

You know that.
I know that.

But does Joe "m stands for millenia" G know that?  I'm skeptical.

Having Joe answer that question would probably be another week long laugh fest.

Hey Richard, any interest in tweaking the joey?

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midwifetoad



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(Permalink) Posted: July 20 2012,11:48   

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UD having a good cry about it - and so up pops Carl Zimmer!

http://www.uncommondescent.com/intelli....origins

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What is the evidence claimed by members of the Discovery Institute that human chromosome could have evolved through fusion six million years ago?


Missing a "not"?

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