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Lou FCD



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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 09 2010,10:26   

It would seem I owe the Discovery Institute a bit of thanks.

While registering for Spring classes at UNCW, I saw that my Genetics instructor is teaching a seminar that would interest me: BIO 495: Creative Differences: Evolution and Religion

Alas, by the time I got to register, the 12 seats stood at -1 remaining.

After Genetics this morning, I spoke to my instructor about it, and this is the word-for-word transcript:

 
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Hi. I'm actually in college because I started following the Dover trial. What do I have to do to get into your seminar?


Her face lit up like it was Christmas.

 
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I'll get you in. Email me.


The whole conversation was almost short enough to fit into a tweet. Apparently, "Dover" is like a magic word.

Thanks, Disco 'Tute TARDs.

Edited by Lou FCD on Nov. 09 2010,11:26

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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 09 2010,10:33   

Abraca-Dover?



Edited by Lou FCD on Nov. 09 2010,11:49

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 09 2010,10:49   

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Abraca-Dover?


You just made my day. Thanks.

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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 09 2010,10:54   

Reckon it was time to amend the thread title to reflect my continuing education.

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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 09 2010,13:12   

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Abraca-Dover?


Congrats on the Abracadover to you too!~

And what about going all out with a YabadabaIDiot, and inviting Casey "Tits" Luskin to speak to your "IDEA" Club???? (Intelligent Design Equals Assholiness)

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 10 2011,01:32   

Sorry to just pop in now and then but I figured this thread would be up to date. Are you in school this quarter Lou?

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Lou FCD



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 10 2011,10:40   

Hey BWE!

Yeah, and I just got my ass handed to me in a Vertebrate Natural History lab practical yesterday. Freshwater fish and amphibians in the southeast US.

ouch.

The rest of my schedule is going ok, though. I've just been swamped lately. The weekend is looking good for some update stuff though.

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 10 2011,11:14   

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and amphibians in the southeast US.


Did you misidentify Newt Gingrich again?

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 10 2011,17:02   

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and amphibians in the southeast US.


Did you misidentify Newt Gingrich again?

He got better.

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 11 2011,10:00   

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and amphibians in the southeast US.
Did you misidentify Newt Gingrich again?
He got better.

I always thought he was a horny toad

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 11 2011,14:46   

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and amphibians in the southeast US.


Did you misidentify Newt Gingrich again?

Worse, I failed to identify about 60 species of fish and amphibians. Brain lock at the second station, I began to fixate on the 90 second clock, and it was all bad after that.

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 11 2011,14:49   

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and amphibians in the southeast US.
Did you misidentify Newt Gingrich again?
Worse, I failed to identify about 60 species of fish and amphibians. Brain lock at the second station, I began to fixate on the 90 second clock, and it was all bad after that.

Major suckage

As a fellow student (of networking, not biology) I do still know about brain lock and how it can turn a good day into absolute crap

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 11 2011,14:50   

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and amphibians in the southeast US.
Did you misidentify Newt Gingrich again?
Worse, I failed to identify about 60 species of fish and amphibians. Brain lock at the second station, I began to fixate on the 90 second clock, and it was all bad after that.

Major suckage

As a fellow student (of networking, not biology) I do still know about brain lock and how it can turn a good day into absolute crap

My exact words, wrapped around an F-bomb.

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 13 2011,17:34   

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and amphibians in the southeast US.


Did you misidentify Newt Gingrich again?

Worse, I failed to identify about 60 species of fish and amphibians. Brain lock at the second station, I began to fixate on the 90 second clock, and it was all bad after that.

Ugh. Did you talk to the instructor after? I assume that the majority of exams don't go that way.

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 14 2011,08:34   

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and amphibians in the southeast US.


Did you misidentify Newt Gingrich again?

Worse, I failed to identify about 60 species of fish and amphibians. Brain lock at the second station, I began to fixate on the 90 second clock, and it was all bad after that.

I recall once studying all night for a final, went to the test all pumped up and turned in a blank blue-book... Damn good think the Prof let me have another go at it later.

Turn on the famous "Lou Charm", or maybe give prof some feelthy pictures?

Good luck dude.  Let me know if sacrificing another ID-Believing Christian will help.

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 14 2011,08:37   

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and amphibians in the southeast US.


Did you misidentify Newt Gingrich again?

Worse, I failed to identify about 60 species of fish and amphibians. Brain lock at the second station, I began to fixate on the 90 second clock, and it was all bad after that.

1st year calculus. Night class. Crazy girlfriend. Cadaver for a prof.  Bombsville.

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 14 2011,10:44   

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and amphibians in the southeast US.


Did you misidentify Newt Gingrich again?

Worse, I failed to identify about 60 species of fish and amphibians. Brain lock at the second station, I began to fixate on the 90 second clock, and it was all bad after that.

1st year calculus. Night class. Crazy girlfriend. Cadaver for a prof. †Bombsville.

The infamous "Rodent ID" exam in Mammalogy. After a few minutes, the damned things all began to look alike.

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 14 2011,10:53   

Well, rats!

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 14 2011,14:13   

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and amphibians in the southeast US.
Did you misidentify Newt Gingrich again?
Worse, I failed to identify about 60 species of fish and amphibians. Brain lock at the second station, I began to fixate on the 90 second clock, and it was all bad after that.

Major suckage

As a fellow student (of networking, not biology) I do still know about brain lock and how it can turn a good day into absolute crap

My exact words, wrapped around an F-bomb.

I remember major instances of brain lock in my life. A couple of classics:

1) During physics A-level (final year of UK high school exams, ~US college freshman/sophomore equivalent...or they were back then) I forget the equation for a straight line (y=mx+c) and totally brain farted over it for a hour.

2) Second paper of same subject I couldn't remember the Doppler Effect. I knew EXACTLY what it was but had to try to answer the question without the words "Doppler Effect".

3) First year undergrad chemistry I forgot what urea was. UREA!!!!

4) I memorably, cringingly, arse quakingly forgot what "mechanical stirring" was (it's the use of an overhead stirrer for really thick reaction mixtures where magnetic stirring is not appropriate). When my boss said to me in my first week on the job "that'll need mechanical stirring for 24 hours" I blurted out without a moments reflection "BY HAND!!??". Yeah. He laughed. I felt like an utter cock end. This was something I did pretty much every day as well. Muppetry doesn't even begin to cover it.

Ohhhhh brain locks. I know them well.

Happens to the best of us Lou, put it behind you, have a beer, and laugh at yourself.....many years later after appropriate grief of course. You have my sympathy though, brain lock is embarrassing and always occurs on topics you a) know well and b) understand.

Louis

ETA: P.S. I recommend drinking heavily. Contrary to the wise words of Dean Vernon Wermer in National Lampoon's Animal House, fat, drunk and stupid IS a way to go through life. Quite a good one actually.

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 14 2011,17:14   

My two best exam failures:

The first was Freshman year of college.  I was taking the second semester of calculus (I'd tested out of the 1st).  I was having trouble making it to that class at 8 am every day, and hadn't been in a week.  Showed up and was handed a test.  Not my best work.


The second was in grad school.  PhD comprehensive exams involved passing 5 out of 10 exams.  Some professors gave a long list of references, others only one (and you had to track down anything else relevant).  This particular one was over some analytic chemistry topic that I can't remotely remember now.  I knew I didn't really get it, but figured what the hell.  When I got there it was all detailed memory questions on a couple of articles rather that big concepts (what I'd tried, unsuccessfully, to study).  I stared at it hopelessly for about ten minutes, then decided to enjoy my Saturday and turned it in blank.

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 14 2011,18:08   

Strangely (or perhaps not), all the sympathetic stories are making me feel a lot better about it.

Y'all rock.

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 14 2011,18:22   

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Strangely (or perhaps not), all the sympathetic stories are making me feel a lot better about it.

Y'all rock.

He who never made a mistake never made anything.

By this standard I am the world's most productive individual.

Louis

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 14 2011,18:48   

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Strangely (or perhaps not), all the sympathetic stories are making me feel a lot better about it.

Y'all rock.

He who never made a mistake never made anything.

By this standard I am the world's most productive individual.

Louis

Oh, yeah, then there was the 3rd Year Music Theory exam:

"Fill in the chords between the given ones, to create an omnibus."

Uh... what? Oh feck.

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 14 2011,21:51   

I once was set to give a deposition in professional context. In came three attorneys, two of whom were charged with making me look like an idiot. They were followed by a cart full of video equipment and a court reporter. A microphone was clipped to my tie, the camera oriented and the equipment activated. First question posed to me, by the attorney for whom my testimony would be favorable, was an easy one, albeit broad, lazy. My response would be witnessed by a jury. †

I could not respond. 10 seconds passed. 20 seconds. Silence. 30 seconds. I could feel my heart beating under the microphone. 40 seconds. Fuck, I'd better say something - but couldn't. 60 seconds. Disabled by mounting anxiety, I could not organize a response. Further eternities passed. I mumbled something.

Once things got underway I did more than OK. But I still blanch when I think about that very long minute or so. Fortunately, I was subpoenaed for another video deposition a few weeks later, and did well. Nothing like getting back on the horse. Even if it is, for somebody, the one you ride in on.

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 15 2011,00:44   

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Strangely (or perhaps not), all the sympathetic stories are making me feel a lot better about it.

Y'all rock.

He who never made a mistake never made anything.

By this standard I am the world's most productive individual.

Louis

Oh, yeah, then there was the 3rd Year Music Theory exam:

"Fill in the chords between the given ones, to create an omnibus."

Uh... what? Oh feck.

To create a what?

It worries me that I don't know this, especially since I majored in music theory. †Granted, that was a long time ago, and maybe things have changed. †The only musical omnibus I remember is the one in the Flanders & Swann song.

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 15 2011,08:12   

What about this one?



or even this one?



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 15 2011,08:35   

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Strangely (or perhaps not), all the sympathetic stories are making me feel a lot better about it.

Y'all rock.

He who never made a mistake never made anything.

By this standard I am the world's most productive individual.

Louis

Oh, yeah, then there was the 3rd Year Music Theory exam:

"Fill in the chords between the given ones, to create an omnibus."

Uh... what? Oh feck.

To create a what?

It worries me that I don't know this, especially since I majored in music theory. †Granted, that was a long time ago, and maybe things have changed. †The only musical omnibus I remember is the one in the Flanders & Swann song.

I think it was Romantic.

Never heard of it since.

(Cue "That's What I Like About You" jokes in 3, 2, 1...)

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 15 2011,13:03   

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Strangely (or perhaps not), all the sympathetic stories are making me feel a lot better about it.

Y'all rock.

Research Methodology.  The instructor was a freak who had only completed at PhD.  (He had quit college after 1st semester in his freshman year, bummed around in the computer labs for the next year and a half and upon his return went straight into the PhD program)  He believed that it was more sensitive statistically to set a brutal exam and scale up the results to achieve the appropriate mean and standard deviation.  6 hours into the 3 hour exam (7-10pm so it was now 1am the next day) he kicked everyone out of the room.  I believe my raw score was in the high 20's but it scaled out as a B+.

The worst part was the bars all closed at 1am so we couldn't even go for 10 drinks when the exam 'ended'.

  
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Strangely (or perhaps not), all the sympathetic stories are making me feel a lot better about it.

Y'all rock.

Research Methodology. †The instructor was a freak who had only completed at PhD. †(He had quit college after 1st semester in his freshman year, bummed around in the computer labs for the next year and a half and upon his return went straight into the PhD program) †He believed that it was more sensitive statistically to set a brutal exam and scale up the results to achieve the appropriate mean and standard deviation. †6 hours into the 3 hour exam (7-10pm so it was now 1am the next day) he kicked everyone out of the room. †I believe my raw score was in the high 20's but it scaled out as a B+.

The worst part was the bars all closed at 1am so we couldn't even go for 10 drinks when the exam 'ended'.

There was a legendary (and most likely apocryphal)  Physics prof at Cal who gave an exam in his Honors course strictly on the curve. There were 5 students in the class: One scored 98%, three scored 99%, and one scored 100%.  Grade distribution: A: 1 C: 3 F: 1

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 15 2011,13:38   

This really isn't my fail, but I sure as hell didn't learn anything.

Second semester of minerology.  We're given a lab test that's basically, "here's 100 minerals, tell us everything you know about them in 4 hours"

Well, my professor had a project about to go up on the space shuttle, so we saw him twice the entire semester.  The only grad student in the Geology Department had never taken advanced minerology.  We were given a textbook and about 2000 pages of lectures and a hearty 'good luck'.

So anyway, I go sit at one of the messy lab tables and start writing.  I look up and the TA has his feet on the desk and is reading a newspaper.  I sigh and look around...

it's then that I realize that the mess on the table I'm sitting at is the complete set of minerology posters that have been taken down from the lab in anticipation of the test.  

I don't think it actually mattered though.  The final score for the class (IMO) was if you were there on the same days as the prof, you got an 'A', if not, you got a 'C'.

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