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Richardthughes



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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 11 2012,18:44   

I must admit I'm fascinated by the blossoming romance between Joe Gallien and Gordon Mullings.

On paper, it looks bad, one of the most offensive tards on the 'net and one of the most offended tards on the net.

And yet, it's working, flourishing even. Gordon knows that Joe does things elsewhere that would induce a fit from him if an 'evo' did it, but he can compartmentalise that, because Joe likes him, reads his posts and licks his arse.

And Joe is helping make KF stupider. KF praises Joe (for agreeing with him) and has even used Joe's own 'design is a mechanism' idiocy.

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Erasmus, FCD



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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 11 2012,19:13   

Quote (DaveH @ Oct. 11 2012,19:07)
Quote (Erasmus @ FCD,Oct. 11 2012,15:35)
Well, I don't know what crash you are talking about. †I don't get the Montserrat news channel and I'll be fucked if I start chasing links to figure out what Gordon's talking about.

Racist... yawn. †ID is cargo cult science.

OK
So you didn't read Freddie's post about the fatal aircrash, that you replied to.
KF=Montserrat? L'etat, c'est lui????
He may be the biggest, most unpleasant git on the island, but then, he's also one of the biggest gits on earth.

Kick that slimy toad (and I'll lend you my boots when yours are worn out). Leave the decent Montserrat people (who have never heard of him) alone.

i just skimmed over it and say "Fly Montserrat" and I thought, I bet that's a hoot. I have no idea what crash it is though.  And before I look it up let me just say I wish Gordon was the obstacle whatever the thing that crashed into

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Erasmus, FCD



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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 11 2012,19:13   

Quote (Richardthughes @ Oct. 11 2012,19:44)
I must admit I'm fascinated by the blossoming romance between Joe Gallien and Gordon Mullings.

On paper, it looks bad, one of the most offensive tards on the 'net and one of the most offended tards on the net.

And yet, it's working, flourishing even. Gordon knows that Joe does things elsewhere that would induce a fit from him if an 'evo' did it, but he can compartmentalise that, because Joe likes him, reads his posts and licks his arse.

And Joe is helping make KF stupider. KF praises Joe (for agreeing with him) and has even used Joe's own 'design is a mechanism' idiocy.

10 to 1 they have meated each other IRL

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You're obviously illiterate as hell.†Peach, bro.-FtK

Finding something hard to believe based on the evidence, is science.-JoeG

the odds of getting some loathsome taint are low-- Gordon E Mullings Manjack Heights Montserrat

I work on molecular systems with pathway charts and such.-Giggles

  
Patrick



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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 11 2012,21:29   

Quote (Richardthughes @ Oct. 11 2012,19:44)
I must admit I'm fascinated by the blossoming romance between Joe Gallien and Gordon Mullings.

On paper, it looks bad, one of the most offensive tards on the 'net and one of the most offended tards on the net.

And yet, it's working, flourishing even. Gordon knows that Joe does things elsewhere that would induce a fit from him if an 'evo' did it, but he can compartmentalise that, because Joe likes him, reads his posts and licks his arse.

And Joe is helping make KF stupider. KF praises Joe (for agreeing with him) and has even used Joe's own 'design is a mechanism' idiocy.

I wonder if kairosfocus is upset that Joe and Barry had a love child with Joe's intelligence and Barry's pleasant demeanor.

Perhaps Mung brings out his compassion.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 12 2012,01:05   

Quote (Richardthughes @ Oct. 11 2012,16:44)
Gordon knows that Joe does things elsewhere that would induce a fit from him if an 'evo' did it, but he can compartmentalise that, because Joe likes him, reads his posts and licks his [deleted, watch language, KF].


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DaveH



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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 12 2012,02:07   

Quote (Erasmus @ FCD,Oct. 11 2012,19:13)
i just skimmed over it and say "Fly Montserrat" and I thought, I bet that's a hoot. I have no idea what crash it is though. †And before I look it up let me just say I wish Gordon was the obstacle whatever the thing that crashed into

Fair enough. I withdraw my censure.
And you're right, Gordo particularly deserves large objects to fall out of the sky onto him; my uncle Bert served with the 6th Battalion of the Gordons in N Africa and Sicily, that pusillanimous little shite hides away at UD, too scared to move.
By-fucking-dand, indeed †*spit*

  
Erasmus, FCD



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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 12 2012,08:33   

My only complaint with the people of Montserrat, whoever they are, is that they haven't locked this sombitch up in a musty dungeon.  Can't be safe to have him running about the neighborhood

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You're obviously illiterate as hell.†Peach, bro.-FtK

Finding something hard to believe based on the evidence, is science.-JoeG

the odds of getting some loathsome taint are low-- Gordon E Mullings Manjack Heights Montserrat

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Amadan



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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 12 2012,08:35   

Any funny business from the volcano and they'll toss him in.

The volcano has kept very quiet recently.

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OgreMkV



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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 12 2012,09:21   

Quote (Amadan @ Oct. 12 2012,08:35)
Any funny business from the volcano and they'll toss him in.

The volcano has kept very quiet recently.

As my grandpa used to say, "He'll live forever.  Heaven don't want him and hell's afraid he'll take over."

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Trubble



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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 12 2012,10:33   

Quote (Richardthughes @ Oct. 11 2012,14:15)
I think he's in fact referring to this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki.......go_cult


From that wiki link:

"Notable examples of cargo cult activity include the...attempted construction of Western goods, such as radios made of coconuts and straw."

GILLIGAN!!! :angry:

  
k.e..



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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 12 2012,11:14   

Quote (OgreMkV @ Oct. 12 2012,17:21)
Quote (Amadan @ Oct. 12 2012,08:35)
Any funny business from the volcano and they'll toss him in.

The volcano has kept very quiet recently.

As my grandpa used to say, "He'll live forever. †Heaven don't want him and hell's afraid he'll take over."

Gordon has created his own Hell on Earth on Montserrat. Sure, Hell might have a few more volcanoes but the temperature of the rum and the passing of time is about the same.

No one important gives a fuck about Gordon.

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k.e..



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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 12 2012,11:32   

Quote (Trubble @ Oct. 12 2012,18:33)
Quote (Richardthughes @ Oct. 11 2012,14:15)
I think he's in fact referring to this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki.......go_cult


From that wiki link:

"Notable examples of cargo cult activity include the...attempted construction of Western goods, such as radios made of coconuts and straw."

GILLIGAN!!! :angry:

In Rich's link I noticed the reference to Sokal and his bÍte noire, the pseud's pseud Jacques Lacan who makes Dembski look like Milquetoast.

Consider the obviousness of this GEM.

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Richard Dawkins, in a review of Fashionable Nonsense, said regarding Lacan: "We do not need the mathematical expertise of Sokal and Bricmont to assure us that the author of this stuff is a fake. Perhaps he is genuine when he speaks of non-scientific subjects? But a philosopher who is caught equating the erectile organ to the square root of minus one has, for my money, blown his credentials when it comes to things that I don't know anything about."


Dembski mentally can't get it up, and uselessly just flops around in search of a nonexistent hard bit of 'information'.

His followers pay their money he creams the profits and they go away satisfied.

What a sweet deal, they're too much in awe of his crack.

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Glen Davidson



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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 12 2012,12:20   

Quote (OgreMkV @ Oct. 12 2012,09:21)
Quote (Amadan @ Oct. 12 2012,08:35)
Any funny business from the volcano and they'll toss him in.

The volcano has kept very quiet recently.

As my grandpa used to say, "He'll live forever. †Heaven don't want him and hell's afraid he'll take over."

Well, bore the demons into a torpor, is more like it.

Glen Davidson

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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 12 2012,13:21   

Feh...I think most people have hell completely wrong and that the Christian concept is just plain silly. People expect hell to encompass pain, torture, and some form of death, but I think that hell likely encompasses helplessness, humiliation, and stealing of dignity. Gordo of course, is the embodiment of all three.

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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 12 2012,13:34   

Quote (Amadan @ Oct. 12 2012,06:35)
Any funny business from the volcano and they'll toss him in.

The volcano has kept very quiet recently.

They'd complain about him, but he's used up all the words.

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oldmanintheskydidntdoit



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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 13 2012,05:03   

gpuccio:
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If even Zachriel canít see that there is no circularity in the dFSCI procedure, after I have given him explicit examples of how it is empirically capable of distinguishing designed strings from non designed strings with 100% specificity, then there is really no hope. There must really be something wrong in how these people reason.


This 100% procedure as far as I can tell goes something like this.

Here are three strings.

A) The rock fell on the IDiots head but it was ok because there was no damage.
B) 2348905urwe8o0asfjw80435u8023u45890wr4jfe9-0ui5904wuir09efu093wu845890reu804
C) The cat sat on the mat.

His "procedure" seems to be to ask somebody to determine which, if any, of those strings are non-random.

I shit you not.
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Again: we test dFSCI with a set of long enough strings. Some of them are designed and meaningful, some of them are generated randomly. We know the origin of each string (if it was designed or randomly originated) because we have direct knowledge of how they were produced. Then we take some independent observer, who knows nothing about the origin of the strings, and ask him to infer desing, or not, using the evaluation of dFSCI for those strings. He will recognize the designed strings, with 100% specificity. Thius is the very simple meaning of my #5: an empirical test where dFSCI can easily recognize designed strings from non designed strings. Empirical test, nothing more.

http://www.uncommondescent.com/intelli....-436413

He then says:
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If even Zachriel canít see that there is no circularity in the dFSCI procedure, after I have given him explicit examples of how it is empirically capable of distinguishing designed strings from non designed strings with 100% specificity, then there is really no hope. There must really be something wrong in how these people reason.

I knew that cognitive bias is strong and powerful in humans, but I really believed that it can be partially controlled in intelligent and goodwilled people. Evidently, that is not always the case.


Just wow.

Hey, Gpuccio, I think my next project will be a "is this string designed or not" website.

Given that you have a 100% perfect method of determining design or not you'll clean up.

But I suspect not. As gpuccio himself says:
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There must really be something wrong in how these people reason.

If their reasoning is so poor then how come you are on the pissant blog bitching about people who actually get published on a regular basis and not just in books?

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I also mentioned that He'd have to give me a thorough explanation as to *why* I must "eat human babies".
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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 13 2012,05:44   

Quote (oldmanintheskydidntdoit @ Oct. 13 2012,03:03)
gpuccio:
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If even Zachriel canít see that there is no circularity in the dFSCI procedure, after I have given him explicit examples of how it is empirically capable of distinguishing designed strings from non designed strings with 100% specificity, then there is really no hope. There must really be something wrong in how these people reason.


This 100% procedure as far as I can tell goes something like this.

Here are three strings.

A) The rock fell on the IDiots head but it was ok because there was no damage.
B) 2348905urwe8o0asfjw80435u8023u45890wr4jfe9-0ui5904wuir09efu093wu845890reu804
C) The cat sat on the mat.

His "procedure" seems to be to ask somebody to determine which, if any, of those strings are non-random.

I shit you not.
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Again: we test dFSCI with a set of long enough strings. Some of them are designed and meaningful, some of them are generated randomly. We know the origin of each string (if it was designed or randomly originated) because we have direct knowledge of how they were produced. Then we take some independent observer, who knows nothing about the origin of the strings, and ask him to infer desing, or not, using the evaluation of dFSCI for those strings. He will recognize the designed strings, with 100% specificity. Thius is the very simple meaning of my #5: an empirical test where dFSCI can easily recognize designed strings from non designed strings. Empirical test, nothing more.

http://www.uncommondescent.com/intelli....-436413

He then says:
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If even Zachriel canít see that there is no circularity in the dFSCI procedure, after I have given him explicit examples of how it is empirically capable of distinguishing designed strings from non designed strings with 100% specificity, then there is really no hope. There must really be something wrong in how these people reason.

I knew that cognitive bias is strong and powerful in humans, but I really believed that it can be partially controlled in intelligent and goodwilled people. Evidently, that is not always the case.


Just wow.

Hey, Gpuccio, I think my next project will be a "is this string designed or not" website.

Given that you have a 100% perfect method of determining design or not you'll clean up.

But I suspect not. As gpuccio himself says:
 
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There must really be something wrong in how these people reason.

If their reasoning is so poor then how come you are on the pissant blog bitching about people who actually get published on a regular basis and not just in books?

What happened to the O in dFSCI? gordo likes to promote dFSCO/I. Or is it dFSCI/O? Whatever. I guess gpuccio missed the memo.

And speaking of gpuccio, I'll bet that even after all that BS about "specificity", an "empirical test", and "the dFSCI procedure", he can't calculate the amount of CSI, or FSCI, or dFSCI, or dFSCO/I in a banana.

Hey gpuccio, let's see you demonstrate your intelligence and goodwill by doing the so-called "dFSCI procedure" on these ten things (the real things-not this text), and show your calculations:

1. a flu virus
2. a 5 pound piece of granite
3. †a goldfish
4. a human toenail
5. a beaver dam
6. a chicken
7. a rose bush
8. a pseudogene
9. a fly maggot
10. joe g and gordo's love affair

Edited by The whole truth on Oct. 13 2012,03:49

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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 13 2012,06:01   

I'm willing to bet my house that gpuccio's objective procedure cannot distinguish between an uncatalogued but functional protein coding sequence and the same with a couple of knockout mutations.

Isn't it a small problem for design that you can't anticipate the behavior of new molecules? Wouldn't it bolster the design hypothesis to demonstrate that design is possible?

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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 13 2012,07:37   

363 gpuccio October 13, 2012 at 6:19 am:  
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To Zachriel (at TSZ):
Actually, thatís precisely how we read gpuccioís statements. He defines functional complexity, excludes those with known causes, then concludes the remaining sequences are designed. Keiths summarized it above.
Your ďreadingĒ is terrible, and comnpletely wrong.

Or maybe the problem is on your side, gpuccio. You can't express yourself well and your own thoughts on "dFSCI" keep shifting like sand.

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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 13 2012,15:08   

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And speaking of gpuccio, I'll bet that even after all that BS about "specificity", an "empirical test", and "the dFSCI procedure", he can't calculate the amount of CSI, or FSCI, or dFSCI, or dFSCO/I in a banana.

What's the specification for a banana?

You all know the answer, don't you?

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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 13 2012,15:46   

Quote (Bob O'H @ Oct. 13 2012,13:08)
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And speaking of gpuccio, I'll bet that even after all that BS about "specificity", an "empirical test", and "the dFSCI procedure", he can't calculate the amount of CSI, or FSCI, or dFSCI, or dFSCO/I in a banana.

What's the specification for a banana?

You all know the answer, don't you?

I usually don't watch videos because of my slow internet connection but this time I just had to watch that. It took awhile to load and play but it was worth it for the laughs.


"...notice the point at the top for ease of entry"

Yeah, and pineapples and coconuts are also designed by almighty god for ease of entry.

Those two guys really need to get a life.

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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 13 2012,22:21   

Wow....UD has turned into the Mung show hasn't it?

Any of you worked with old-time coders? "Mung" in some circles means modify/mash until no good, that is, make so many little changes to the code so that it is irreversibly damaged.

If Mung turns out to be the deepest of all socks, a million internets to you, sir. You Munged UD.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 14 2012,02:34   

Quote (REC @ Oct. 13 2012,23:21)
Wow....UD has turned into the Mung show hasn't it?

Any of you worked with old-time coders? "Mung" in some circles means modify/mash until no good, that is, make so many little changes to the code so that it is irreversibly damaged.

If Mung turns out to be the deepest of all socks, a million internets to you, sir. You Munged UD.




>that feel when you think Richardthughes is everyone on the internet

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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 14 2012,08:35   

I've asked Mung a question on TSZ.

http://theskepticalzone.com/wp....t....t-16703

If any of the compulsive readers from UD are reading this you also more then welcome to provide an answer yourself here (unlikely!) or on UD.

If anybody spots an answer please let me know. I don't read UD much atm.

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Mung et al,
A problem has arisen! I tornado has torn up my office. Iíve managed to put everything back together, but typically there is one last thing.

I have two documents left over:

Sequence 1

Sequence 2

You probably know the drill...

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I also mentioned that He'd have to give me a thorough explanation as to *why* I must "eat human babies".
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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 14 2012,10:32   

Your question is in the same family as my question of how to distinguish between an uncatalogued protein coding sequence and the same sequence with one disabling point mutation. No fair doing it with chemistry. That would be what natural selection does.

Or my related question of how you know how many mutations it takes to go from a barely active sequence for a catalyst to a highly adapted sequence. How does gpuccio know it exceeds the bounds of probability or involves multiple co-dependent mutations?

Edited by midwifetoad on Oct. 14 2012,10:32

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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 14 2012,10:32   

If only R. Dawkins had spent more time naming Weasel things might have all been so very different.

Joe:
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As for Dawkinsí ďweaselĒ and latching:

The program was supposed to demonstrate CUMULATIVE selection. And you cannot have cumulative selection if the proper mutations do not latch. Otherwise it would be called back and forth and sometimes cumulative selection.

Oh Joe!

Perhaps we could also call two steps forward, one step back just "one step forward"?

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I also mentioned that He'd have to give me a thorough explanation as to *why* I must "eat human babies".
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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 14 2012,10:37   

Quote (midwifetoad @ Oct. 14 2012,10:32)
How does gpuccio know it exceeds the bounds of probability or involves multiple co-dependent mutations?

Given the whole "random proteins are often functional too" news lately I wonder how much longer they can keep the "islands" strawman bonfire burning.

I've asked Gordo many times for his map.
Each time he reaches for the needle in a haystack the size of the cosmos. Not the needle one step away. Or the one he's sitting on.

I've also asked Gordo many times what biological process is it that is going on when the sampling is happening in the "cosmos haystack". Never had a real answer.

They "know" it exceeds the bounds of probability because it has Truthiness.

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I also mentioned that He'd have to give me a thorough explanation as to *why* I must "eat human babies".
FTK

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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 14 2012,11:51   

Joe:
 
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In the past I have explained to you why random wrt fitness is meaningless gibberish because it does not mean that the mutations were not directed by an internal algorithm.

Moe:
 
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In the past I have explained to you why random wrt fitness is meaningless gibberish because it does not mean that the mutations were not directed by an internal combustion engine.

Slo:
 
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In the past I have explained to you why random wrt fitness is meaningless gibberish because it does not mean that the mutations were not directed by an internal conflict regarding what dress size to buy.

Joe:
 
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In the past I have explained to you why random wrt fitness is meaningless gibberish because it does not mean that the mutations were not directed by an internal series of tubes.

Comedy Gold.
Can anybody else think of any other things that are not doing things to mutations?

The list seems to be, well, unlimited!

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I also mentioned that He'd have to give me a thorough explanation as to *why* I must "eat human babies".
FTK

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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 14 2012,11:53   

And caek boy, one last thing.

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In the past I have explained to you why random wrt dice rolls is meaningless gibberish because it does not mean that the rolls were not directed by an internal algorithm.


Anything going click yet?

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I also mentioned that He'd have to give me a thorough explanation as to *why* I must "eat human babies".
FTK

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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 14 2012,13:16   

Quote (Robin @ Oct. 12 2012,13:21)
Feh...I think most people have hell completely wrong and that the Christian concept is just plain silly. People expect hell to encompass pain, torture, and some form of death, but I think that hell likely encompasses helplessness, humiliation, and stealing of dignity. Gordo of course, is the embodiment of all three.

OH, so it's high school.

Already did that.

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