Joined: Sep. 2008
|Well, even if you're not a materialist atheist, ...|
I think the main reason I'm not an atheist is that when I sit in a lab watching grossly over simplified simulations of agents slowly evolving I sometimes wonder if, from something else's point of view, our universe is just a gross over simplification of a different reality and we are the simple low dimensional agents slowly evolving. †Of course that doesn't mean I don't know the difference between empirical science and wild theological speculation.
Unfortunately on UD DaveScot prohibits talking about the designer, you are only allowed to talk about the designs. †Now if I were an anthropologist or an archaeologist looking at, lets say, an ancient arrow head, †I don't think I would get into to much trouble with my peers by trying to infer something about the designer or creator of the arrow head.
Of course I do love to speculate and there are lots of what one might call 'non materialist' scenarios we can dream up about the creation of the universe that are the result of a 'creator' but which most of the UD people would probably reject because they don't fit the traditional theological concept of creation. †Here are a couple of my favourites though:
Benevolent version - "Opps I seem to have accidentally created a universe but it looks like some interesting entities might emerge if I keep it going for long enough. †Hmmm, maybe if I just tweak that bit there it might speed things along a bit... Whats that dear? Why have I created another universe? umm, well, err, its all part of this grand plan..."
Non-Benevolant version - "Damn it, another universe, that wasn't what I wanted. †I know, I'll stick it in the shed with all the others..."
"Finally I have created the perfect universe, look at its glorious elegance and total sterility... ah, damn it, not again, little fxxxers"