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Lou FCD



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(Permalink) Posted: May 24 2008,10:12   

I was granted the golden mop to this forum on November 6, 2007.  As a comparison, we've banned two commenters since then.

Here's an updated score card since then:

AtBC - 2:

VMartin

David Mabus



Uncommon Descent - 35 (that we know of):

temminicki2

Stanton Rockwell

GLarson24

Solon

Lazarus

cdesignproponentsists

digdug24 and Bugsy

Getawitness

SallyT

ellazim

Carl Sachs and Tedsenough

dcost

Xcdesignproponentsists

undesigned

Shoghi

Q

DRat07

aaron

Semprini

Cloud of Unknowing (AKA Turncoat, AKA Tom English)

Thom English (again)

larrynomanfan

Leo Stotch and even his ghost, for good measure.

Dog_of_War

Uthan

Andrea

Gerry Rzeppa

psychodelict

Jonathan Sarfati

dreamwalker007

freemind

Leo

Cue

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PTET



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(Permalink) Posted: May 24 2008,11:04   

Quote (Lou FCD @ May 24 2008,10:12)
I was granted the golden mop to this forum on November 6, 2007.  As a comparison, we've banned two commenters since then.

Here's an updated score card since then:

AtBC - 2:

VMartin

David Mabus



Uncommon Descent - 35 (that we know of)

I was never explicitly banned... But my comments did mysteriously stop appearing at UD.

Teach the controversy, huh?

It's like Conservapedia. Wikipedia is evilly biased because it doesn't follow the Whackjob Christian Fundamentalist line. That means Conservapedia gets to be as goose-steppingly Conservative Christian as it likes - and that doesn't count as bias.


Oh yeah - do sockpuppets count? A big hi to vesf if he's listening :)

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Henry J



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(Permalink) Posted: May 24 2008,16:50   

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I was never explicitly banned... But my comments did mysteriously stop appearing at UD.


The Bermuda Triangle of blogs?

Henry

  
Reciprocating Bill



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(Permalink) Posted: May 24 2008,21:21   

Without Comment:

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DaveScot
05/24/2008
3:31 am

Denyse

Upon my return from a couple days away from the computer I found Iíd been summarily expelled from the inner sanctum of the ďbig tentĒ.

Here are a couple of ground rules that werenít spelled out to me about being allowed inside the big tent:

1) Thou shalt not question the Discovery Institute, its purposes, intents, or methods.

2) Thou shalt not question that belief in Darwinís theory on the Origin of Species made the holocaust possible.

In other words, you donít have to believe in God but youíd better believe in the Discovery Institute and not wander off-message.

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olegt



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(Permalink) Posted: May 25 2008,05:30   

Holy tard!  Has Dave been defrocked?

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Reciprocating Bill



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(Permalink) Posted: May 27 2008,17:28   

This has got to open some sort of wormhole in the fabric of space-time:

Quote (Jim_Wynne @ May 27 2008,16:06)
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Quote (Hermagoras @ May 24 2008,19:56)
Holy crap. †I'm away on a birthday bender and come back to find DaveScot on double secret probation? † † † †
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Denyse

Upon my return from a couple days away from the computer I found Iíd been summarily expelled from the inner sanctum of the ďbig tentĒ.

Here are a couple of ground rules that werenít spelled out to me about being allowed inside the big tent:

1) Thou shalt not question the Discovery Institute, its purposes, intents, or methods.

2) Thou shalt not question that belief in Darwinís theory on the Origin of Species made the holocaust possible.

In other words, you donít have to believe in God but youíd better believe in the Discovery Institute and not wander off-message.

It looks like Dave's post has gone down the memory hole. :p


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J-Dog



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(Permalink) Posted: May 27 2008,20:07   

Quote (PTET @ May 24 2008,11:04)
Quote (Lou FCD @ May 24 2008,10:12)
I was granted the golden mop to this forum on November 6, 2007. †As a comparison, we've banned two commenters since then.

Here's an updated score card since then:

AtBC - 2:

VMartin

David Mabus



Uncommon Descent - 35 (that we know of)

I was never explicitly banned... But my comments did mysteriously stop appearing at UD.

Teach the controversy, huh?

It's like Conservapedia. Wikipedia is evilly biased because it doesn't follow the Whackjob Christian Fundamentalist line. That means Conservapedia gets to be as goose-steppingly Conservative Christian as it likes - and that doesn't count as bias.


Oh yeah - do sockpuppets count? A big hi to vesf if he's listening :)

Well, my guess is that someone at UD took one look at your Image Icon, and realized that anyone showing Jesus stealing one of Cain or Abel's pet dinos from Teh Garden Of Eden, shouldn't be trusted with the ID Secret, and ratted you out to DaveScot.

You've got a great icon dude!

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Robert O'Brien



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(Permalink) Posted: May 27 2008,21:45   

Quote (Reciprocating Bill @ May 22 2008,20:53)
WAD operationalizes nixplanation:

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William Dembski
05/22/2008
7:55 pm

Cue: Iím not following this thread too closely, but to say that methodological naturalism is an essential ingredient of the scientific method betrays a gross ignorance of the history and philosophy of science. Indeed, itís not even fair to say that there is one scientific method. Percy Bridgman put it this way: ďthe scientific method, insofar as it is a method, is doing oneís damndest with oneís mind, no holds barred.Ē In any case, youíre out of here.

What was Cue's transgression?

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Arden Chatfield



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(Permalink) Posted: May 28 2008,00:50   

Quote (Robert O'Brien @ May 27 2008,19:45)
Quote (Reciprocating Bill @ May 22 2008,20:53)
WAD operationalizes nixplanation:

63
William Dembski
05/22/2008
7:55 pm

Cue: Iím not following this thread too closely, but to say that methodological naturalism is an essential ingredient of the scientific method betrays a gross ignorance of the history and philosophy of science. Indeed, itís not even fair to say that there is one scientific method. Percy Bridgman put it this way: ďthe scientific method, insofar as it is a method, is doing oneís damndest with oneís mind, no holds barred.Ē In any case, youíre out of here.

What was Cue's transgression?


The usual, not kissing Bill's ass enthusiastically enough:

 
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Cue
05/22/2008
7:33 pm
Bornagain, to say that it is artificial may be correct, but to say that it is unnecessary is not. The scientific method is a specific process. It is not the only process. It is, however, the process represented in the schools when natural science is taught.

Studies that donít fit the scientific method, such as they arenít conducive to experiments or arenít readily communicable, can still be studied, but not as a natural science.

In 61 above, when you find imposed materialism to be the biggest hinderance to science, I suggest that simply doesnít make sense. Science (natural science), by definition, has that imposition. If you mean that imposed materialism is the biggest hindereance to knowledge - appreciating that science is but one tool to gain knowledge - then the argument would make more sense.


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Reciprocating Bill



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(Permalink) Posted: May 28 2008,06:52   

Quote (Arden Chatfield @ May 28 2008,01:50)
Quote (Robert O'Brien @ May 27 2008,19:45)
† † †
Quote (Reciprocating Bill @ May 22 2008,20:53)
WAD operationalizes nixplanation:

63
William Dembski
05/22/2008
7:55 pm

Cue: Iím not following this thread too closely, but to say that methodological naturalism is an essential ingredient of the scientific method betrays a gross ignorance of the history and philosophy of science. Indeed, itís not even fair to say that there is one scientific method. Percy Bridgman put it this way: ďthe scientific method, insofar as it is a method, is doing oneís damndest with oneís mind, no holds barred.Ē In any case, youíre out of here.

What was Cue's transgression?


The usual, not kissing Bill's ass enthusiastically enough:

† †  
Quote
Cue
05/22/2008
7:33 pm
Bornagain, to say that it is artificial may be correct, but to say that it is unnecessary is not. The scientific method is a specific process. It is not the only process. It is, however, the process represented in the schools when natural science is taught.

Studies that donít fit the scientific method, such as they arenít conducive to experiments or arenít readily communicable, can still be studied, but not as a natural science.

In 61 above, when you find imposed materialism to be the biggest hinderance to science, I suggest that simply doesnít make sense. Science (natural science), by definition, has that imposition. If you mean that imposed materialism is the biggest hindereance to knowledge - appreciating that science is but one tool to gain knowledge - then the argument would make more sense.

What is especially entertaining about WAD's post is that Percy Bridgman was the originator of operationism (although he never liked that term), and sought to replace abstract theoretical concepts within physics with the analysis of the operations by which those concepts are measured. These notions were influential among logical positivists. The logical positivist Feigl spent a sabbatical with Bridgman in 1930, after which he joined the faculty at Harvard and brought Bridgmanís views to the attention of E.G. Boring and his students S. S. Stevens and B. F. Skinner. As transplanted to behaviorism, operationism construed subjective experiences and cognitive activity (and agency generally) as beyond the reach of a truly scientific psychology. †

In short, Bridgman, whom WAD quotes in support of his warped construal of the natural world in terms of a guiding (but shy) intelligence, was actually the author of ideas that resulted in the ejection of intelligence and agency from human psychology for 50 years.

You'd think the guy would read up a little before he begins to go on about "gross ignorance of the history and philosophy of science."

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k.e..



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(Permalink) Posted: May 28 2008,08:14   

Quote (Reciprocating Bill @ May 28 2008,14:52)
Quote (Arden Chatfield @ May 28 2008,01:50)
†  
Quote (Robert O'Brien @ May 27 2008,19:45)
† † †  
Quote (Reciprocating Bill @ May 22 2008,20:53)
WAD operationalizes nixplanation:

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William Dembski
05/22/2008
7:55 pm

Cue: Iím not following this thread too closely, but to say that methodological naturalism is an essential ingredient of the scientific method betrays a gross ignorance of the history and philosophy of science. Indeed, itís not even fair to say that there is one scientific method. Percy Bridgman put it this way: ďthe scientific method, insofar as it is a method, is doing oneís damndest with oneís mind, no holds barred.Ē In any case, youíre out of here.

What was Cue's transgression?


The usual, not kissing Bill's ass enthusiastically enough:

† † †
Quote
Cue
05/22/2008
7:33 pm
Bornagain, to say that it is artificial may be correct, but to say that it is unnecessary is not. The scientific method is a specific process. It is not the only process. It is, however, the process represented in the schools when natural science is taught.

Studies that donít fit the scientific method, such as they arenít conducive to experiments or arenít readily communicable, can still be studied, but not as a natural science.

In 61 above, when you find imposed materialism to be the biggest hinderance to science, I suggest that simply doesnít make sense. Science (natural science), by definition, has that imposition. If you mean that imposed materialism is the biggest hindereance to knowledge - appreciating that science is but one tool to gain knowledge - then the argument would make more sense.

What is especially entertaining about WAD's post is that Percy Bridgman was the originator of operationism (although he never liked that term), and sought to replace abstract theoretical concepts within physics with the analysis of the operations by which those concepts are measured. These notions were influential among logical positivists. The logical positivist Feigl spent a sabbatical with Bridgman in 1930, after which he joined the faculty at Harvard and brought Bridgmanís views to the attention of E.G. Boring and his students S. S. Stevens and B. F. Skinner. As transplanted to behaviorism, operationism construed subjective experiences and cognitive activity (and agency generally) as beyond the reach of a truly scientific psychology. †

In short, Bridgman, whom WAD quotes in support of his warped construal of the natural world in terms of a guiding (but shy) intelligence, was actually the author of ideas that resulted in the ejection of intelligence and agency from human psychology for 50 years.

You'd think the guy would read up a little before he begins to go on about "gross ignorance of the history and philosophy of science."

Would you like me to give a P-A-R-:0)-D-Y of Lady Boy Bill's facetiousness to that rather phosphorous materialist reduction of said Girlyman's House of Cards sooty stain on ID lab bench.

k.e.. searches through kids dress up box for wizard hat ...with frigging stars and pink unicorns with long blue bushy tails OK?... and ridiculous oversized sweater, badly knitted by discarded girlfriend.

wMAD: RB .....here at UD science pseudoscience is what I say it is and if I quotemine some early postmodernist social scientist, with a twist, then the twits on this board will feel vindicated that their knob polishing hasn't been in vain. Remember history is written by the victors and my case I am truly a Łber  victoriass lacy angel winner. So there :P. and besides they haven't been on Colbert Nation or to Heffies place.

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Robert O'Brien



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(Permalink) Posted: May 28 2008,12:06   

Quote (Arden Chatfield @ May 28 2008,00:50)
Quote (Robert O'Brien @ May 27 2008,19:45)
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Quote (Reciprocating Bill @ May 22 2008,20:53)
WAD operationalizes nixplanation:

63
William Dembski
05/22/2008
7:55 pm

Cue: Iím not following this thread too closely, but to say that methodological naturalism is an essential ingredient of the scientific method betrays a gross ignorance of the history and philosophy of science. Indeed, itís not even fair to say that there is one scientific method. Percy Bridgman put it this way: ďthe scientific method, insofar as it is a method, is doing oneís damndest with oneís mind, no holds barred.Ē In any case, youíre out of here.

What was Cue's transgression?


The usual, not kissing Bill's ass enthusiastically enough:

Quote
Cue
05/22/2008
7:33 pm
Bornagain, to say that it is artificial may be correct, but to say that it is unnecessary is not. The scientific method is a specific process. It is not the only process. It is, however, the process represented in the schools when natural science is taught.

Studies that donít fit the scientific method, such as they arenít conducive to experiments or arenít readily communicable, can still be studied, but not as a natural science.

In 61 above, when you find imposed materialism to be the biggest hinderance to science, I suggest that simply doesnít make sense. Science (natural science), by definition, has that imposition. If you mean that imposed materialism is the biggest hindereance to knowledge - appreciating that science is but one tool to gain knowledge - then the argument would make more sense.

Perhaps Cue can make it up to Bill by buying him a sweater that is two sizes too big.

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DiEb



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(Permalink) Posted: May 29 2008,12:32   

Hi, I was silently banned from UD after posting this. This happened in the early morning, though my posts appeared for a short time, no one answered to them. So, UD could make a stealth banning...

   
Reciprocating Bill



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(Permalink) Posted: May 29 2008,19:40   

Quote (DiEb @ May 29 2008,13:32)
Hi, I was silently banned from UD after posting this. This happened in the early morning, though my posts appeared for a short time, no one answered to them. So, UD could make a stealth banning...

Of course, they've ever been reluctant to stand in public square with pants around their ankles.

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"The truth will set you free. But not until it is finished with you."
- David Foster Wallace

"Here’s a clue. Snarky banalities are not a substitute for saying something intelligent. Write that down."
- Barry Arrington

  
Lou FCD



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(Permalink) Posted: May 29 2008,19:44   

Quote (Reciprocating Bill @ May 29 2008,20:40)
Of course, they've ever been reluctant to stand in public square with pants around their ankles.

Neither have I, but the cops around here have no sense of humor.

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k.e..



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(Permalink) Posted: May 29 2008,20:14   

Quote (Lou FCD @ May 30 2008,03:44)
Quote (Reciprocating Bill @ May 29 2008,20:40)
Of course, they've ever been reluctant to stand in public square with pants around their ankles.

Neither have I, but the cops around here have no sense of humor.

That's only because they want you all to themselves in the dungeon....

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Reciprocating Bill



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(Permalink) Posted: June 11 2008,12:02   

DaveScot likes only telepathic parrots:

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DaveScot
06/11/2008
5:51 am

dmso74 hasnít read The Edge of Evolution and is either making things up about whatís in it or is parroting falacious sources. He was warned to stop, ignored the warning, and is now no longer with us.

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Myth: Something that never was true, and always will be.

"The truth will set you free. But not until it is finished with you."
- David Foster Wallace

"Here’s a clue. Snarky banalities are not a substitute for saying something intelligent. Write that down."
- Barry Arrington

  
dogdidit



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(Permalink) Posted: June 11 2008,21:11   

Behe Patrick has a go with front-loaded bannininininination:

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CameronP
06/11/2008
11:42 am

ďThat, my friends, is a true example of how well the theory of evolution has been tested. It hasnít been tested at all.Ē

Very, very bold claim.

Please cite evidence.

A nature.com search of the word ďevolutionĒ gives 60,000 results (I realize not all the results are scientific papers, and some papers use ďevolutionĒ in different ways, however, many, many thousand still use evolution in the ways criticized here, Iím just not good at filtering them out).

Thatís a whole lot of not testing.

EDIT: This loony tune has already been banned by me. - P


Th- th- th- that's all, folks!!

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Zachriel



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(Permalink) Posted: June 12 2008,05:59   

Something's happened to dmso74! He's no longer with us!

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Reciprocating Bill



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(Permalink) Posted: June 12 2008,06:25   

Quote (Zachriel @ June 12 2008,06:59)
Something's happened to dmso74! He's no longer with us!

Dmso74 was memorialized three posts upthread...

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Myth: Something that never was true, and always will be.

"The truth will set you free. But not until it is finished with you."
- David Foster Wallace

"Here’s a clue. Snarky banalities are not a substitute for saying something intelligent. Write that down."
- Barry Arrington

  
Reciprocating Bill



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(Permalink) Posted: June 17 2008,11:01   

Poachy goes over easy:

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DaveScot
06/17/2008
9:22 am

By popular demand poachy is no longer with us.

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Myth: Something that never was true, and always will be.

"The truth will set you free. But not until it is finished with you."
- David Foster Wallace

"Here’s a clue. Snarky banalities are not a substitute for saying something intelligent. Write that down."
- Barry Arrington

  
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(Permalink) Posted: June 17 2008,17:05   

Quote (Reciprocating Bill @ June 17 2008,11:01)
Poachy goes over easy:

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DaveScot
06/17/2008
9:22 am

By popular demand poachy is no longer with us.

Poachy, please delurk!

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(Permalink) Posted: June 21 2008,02:12   

Sorry, Patrick.  I would like to help, but this bannination wasn't on RB's files.
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Patrick

06/20/2008

7:19 am

Tard Alert!

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would like to know why my previous nick, Bettawrekonize, was banned.

Yes, your previous account is banned. I donít know why but I can ask.


I wonder if we'll get an answer.

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Reciprocating Bill



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(Permalink) Posted: June 21 2008,10:44   

Quote (Bob O'H @ June 21 2008,03:12)
Sorry, Patrick. †I would like to help, but this bannination wasn't on RB's files. †  
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Patrick

06/20/2008

7:19 am

Tard Alert!

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would like to know why my previous nick, Bettawrekonize, was banned.

Yes, your previous account is banned. I donít know why but I can ask.


I wonder if we'll get an answer.

A quick search of UD finds no sign of disturbance in the farce concerning Bettawrekonize.

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"The truth will set you free. But not until it is finished with you."
- David Foster Wallace

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- Barry Arrington

  
Reciprocating Bill



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(Permalink) Posted: July 05 2008,16:18   

Bettawrekonize's remarks belong here as well:

Quote (Bettawrekonize @ July 05 2008,16:23)
For those of you that think Uncommondescent only discriminates against evolutionists, I would like to suggest that it's not true. They also seem to have banned me for no apparent reason. When I tried to login and it said invalid password. So when I tried to reset my password it said something to the extent of, "Invalid Key." I made another account and managed to post onto there and one of the mods said that it does show I was banned and he doesn't know why, but he will ask. After a while, I was able to login with my original account but when I post, my posts never make it to the awaiting Moderator confirmation screen and they never get posted. So I am assuming that I am "suspended" indefinitely? I was never told why I was banned and I was never told why my account seems to be suspended indefinitely. I think there is something wrong with their policy in general, not just against evolutionists in particular. Whatever, it's their forum and if everyone gets banned for no apparent reason (and no opportunity to redeem themselves), eventually no one will pay attention to them.


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"The truth will set you free. But not until it is finished with you."
- David Foster Wallace

"Here’s a clue. Snarky banalities are not a substitute for saying something intelligent. Write that down."
- Barry Arrington

  
Bettawrekonize



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(Permalink) Posted: July 05 2008,16:23   

Thanks for your help everyone. Like I said, I tried to E - Mail everyone there for an answer, but my E - Mails kept bouncing back.

  
Reciprocating Bill



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(Permalink) Posted: July 05 2008,17:05   

Quote (Bettawrekonize @ July 05 2008,17:23)
Thanks for your help everyone. Like I said, I tried to E - Mail everyone there for an answer, but my E - Mails kept bouncing back.

Betta - if you haven't yet, read this "blogczar" thread from the beginning. It will put your experience into stark perspective.

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Myth: Something that never was true, and always will be.

"The truth will set you free. But not until it is finished with you."
- David Foster Wallace

"Here’s a clue. Snarky banalities are not a substitute for saying something intelligent. Write that down."
- Barry Arrington

  
midwifetoad



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(Permalink) Posted: July 08 2008,18:55   

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DaveScot

07/08/2008
 
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6:17 pm
austin_english

We have gross models of gravity that permit us to predict trajectories of projectiles with considerable accuracy. Similarly, we have gross models of evoluton.


You really lost the plot there. NDE predicts nothing. Look at poor Dr. Lenski and his 20 years and 40,000 generations of E.coli. He couldnít predict jack diddly squat about what or when (if anything) was going to happen to them in the way of evolving. All he could do was watch, wait, then when and if something did happen he could explain it after the fact.

You had better a get a clue pretty quick or youíre history here.

On second thought, get lost. That was just too stupid to tolerate.




EDIT: cool. With an edit button I can scoop everyone.

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Ptaylor



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(Permalink) Posted: July 08 2008,19:35   

mwt,
You beat me me to it - well done.

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(Permalink) Posted: July 09 2008,08:29   

Another one bites the dust, same thread.

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DaveScot

07/09/2008

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Austin English compared gravity to evolution. I told him it was ludicrous as gravity allows us to make exquisite predictions of the future and evolution canít predict anything.

You then started to make analogies about evolution and the rolling of dice. Yeah, buddy, but itís almost infinitely sided dice. No two rolls ever have to come up the same in a finite universe. You canít make predictions based on statistics from dice like that. Thatís why neo-darwinian evolutionary theory can make no unpredictions.

For participating in the stupidity of comparing of evolution to gravity you are out of here. Say hi to Austin English wherever he is.


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