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Jim_Wynne



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 07 2009,08:11   

There aren't too many people who can bring the stupid like Joe Gallien ("Joseph"):
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Ya see nothing supporting undirected processes has come out of the research in 150 years since the publication of “On the Origin of Species…”

And you guys have had federal funding for how long? Yet nothing.

Nothing that would demonstrate that genetic changes can be linked to the physiological and anatomical differences observed.


Linky

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oldmanintheskydidntdoit



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 07 2009,09:30   

Quote (Jim_Wynne @ Jan. 07 2009,08:11)
There aren't too many people who can bring the stupid like Joe Gallien ("Joseph"):
 
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Ya see nothing supporting undirected processes has come out of the research in 150 years since the publication of “On the Origin of Species…”

And you guys have had federal funding for how long? Yet nothing.

Nothing that would demonstrate that genetic changes can be linked to the physiological and anatomical differences observed.


Linky

The joke is that I pointed him to some research linking (IIRC) genes and brain size and he said something like "yeah, that sort of thing is what I'm talking about".

I guess he just prefers to repeat his ignorant talking points over and over again and "forget" the fact he has been corrected.....

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I also mentioned that He'd have to give me a thorough explanation as to *why* I must "eat human babies".
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sparc



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 07 2009,11:51   

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Dembski personality traits and priorities on display:


 
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   P.S. I own intelligentevolution.org.



He forgot to say "FIRST!!!!!"

Guess who owns ERASMUSPRESS.NET that is selling Dembsk's new writings:
 
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Registrant:
  William Dembski

  Registered through: GoDaddy.com, Inc. (http://www.godaddy.com)
  Domain Name: ERASMUSPRESS.NET

  Domain servers in listed order:
     NS1.HOSTMONSTER.COM
     NS2.HOSTMONSTER.COM


  For complete domain details go to:
  http://who.godaddy.com/whoischeck.aspx?Domain=ERASMUSPRESS.NET

Who is Erasmuspress?

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"[...] the type of information we find in living systems is beyond the creative means of purely material processes [...] Who or what is such an ultimate source of information? [...] from a theistic perspective, such an information source would presumably have to be God."

- William Dembski -

   
Tony M Nyphot



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 07 2009,12:44   

Quote (sparc @ Jan. 07 2009,10:51)
 
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Dembski personality traits and priorities on display:


   
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   P.S. I own intelligentevolution.org.



He forgot to say "FIRST!!!!!"

Guess who owns ERASMUSPRESS.NET that is selling Dembsk's new writings:
   
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Registrant:
  William Dembski

  Registered through: GoDaddy.com, Inc. (http://www.godaddy.com)
  Domain Name: ERASMUSPRESS.NET

  Domain servers in listed order:
     NS1.HOSTMONSTER.COM
     NS2.HOSTMONSTER.COM


  For complete domain details go to:
  http://who.godaddy.com/whoischeck.aspx?Domain=ERASMUSPRESS.NET

Who is Erasmuspress?

So, essentially, that entire post is a disguised "by my book!" for fleecing the flock with more rehashed drivel.

Who says Dembski hasn't learned from O'Dreary?

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oldmanintheskydidntdoit



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 07 2009,12:53   

Quote (Tony M Nyphot @ Jan. 07 2009,12:44)
So, essentially, that entire post is a disguised "by my book!" for fleecing the flock with more rehashed drivel.

No, it's not "rehashed drivel" it's
 
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More than just a reprinting of a near-forgotten work, Michael A. Flannery places Wallace in historical context. Flannery exposes Charles Darwin’s now-famous theory of evolution as little more than a naturalistic cover for an extreme philosophical materialism borrowed as a youth from Edinburgh radicals. This is juxtaposed by his sympathetic account of what he calls Wallace’s intelligent evolution, a thoroughly teleological alternative to Darwin’s stochastic processes.

Ok, perhaps it is :)

What a load of crap. Oh dear, Darwin's been outed.....

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I also mentioned that He'd have to give me a thorough explanation as to *why* I must "eat human babies".
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Bob O'H



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 07 2009,13:11   

Quote (sparc @ Jan. 07 2009,11:51)
Guess who owns ERASMUSPRESS.NET that is selling Dembsk's new writings:
     
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Registrant:
  William Dembski

  Registered through: GoDaddy.com, Inc. (http://www.godaddy.com)
  Domain Name: ERASMUSPRESS.NET

  Domain servers in listed order:
     NS1.HOSTMONSTER.COM
     NS2.HOSTMONSTER.COM


  For complete domain details go to:
  http://who.godaddy.com/whoischeck.aspx?Domain=ERASMUSPRESS.NET

Who is Erasmuspress?

The full list of contacts
 
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WILLIAM A. DEMBSKI - PUBLISHER: wdembski AT erasmuspress DOT net
WAYNE J. DOWNS - EDITORIAL DIRECTOR: wdowns AT erasmuspress DOT net
JAKE AKINS - MANAGING EDITOR: jakins AT erasmuspress DOT net
MICHAEL FLANNERY - PUBLICITY & MARKETING: mflannery AT erasmuspress DOT net

It's a sorry state of affairs when you have to create your own company in order to indulge in vanity publishing.

EDIT: And where is Erasmus anyway?  He hasn't been around for a few weeks.

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midwifetoad



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 07 2009,13:14   

For someone whose website won't accept any God talk, Dembski certaintly has a lot of titles with the word "creation" in them.

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J-Dog



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 07 2009,13:22   

Oldman- From your link - Thanks BTW - that is some scary shit.... and so is this:

"Wayne J. Downs holds an M.Div. from George W. Truett Theological Seminary at Baylor University. His long-term research interest lies at the intersection of cognitive science and philosophy, and focuses on the dynamics of pain in its relation to establishing moral values. After completing his doctoral studies, he hopes to teach philosophy and religion at the college or university level. He is program director of the Trinity Institute, a nonprofit Christian retreat and study center located in Tehuacana, Texas. "

And even more importantly, could this nutbag be the "Baylor Bear" poster at UD?

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Come on Tough Guy, do the little dance of ID impotence you do so well. - Louis to Joe G 2/10

Gullibility is not a virtue - Quidam on Dembski's belief in the Bible Code Faith Healers & ID 7/08

UD is an Unnatural Douchemagnet. - richardthughes 7/11

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 07 2009,13:30   

Quote (J-Dog @ Jan. 07 2009,13:22)
"Wayne J. Downs holds an M.Div. from George W. Truett Theological Seminary at Baylor University. His long-term research interest lies at the intersection of cognitive science and philosophy, and focuses on the dynamics of pain in its relation to establishing moral values. After completing his doctoral studies, he hopes to teach philosophy and religion at the college or university level. He is program director of the Trinity Institute, a nonprofit Christian retreat and study center located in Tehuacana, Texas. "

In other words, his "research" probably focuses on whether spanking before, after or during church services results a better establishment of "moral values."

I wonder if the Templeton Foundation would be interested in funding that stuff...

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Has been obligated from the beginning
To create an ordered universe
As the only possible proof of its own inheritance.
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J-Dog



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 07 2009,13:59   

Quote (Albatrossity2 @ Jan. 07 2009,13:30)
Quote (J-Dog @ Jan. 07 2009,13:22)
"Wayne J. Downs holds an M.Div. from George W. Truett Theological Seminary at Baylor University. His long-term research interest lies at the intersection of cognitive science and philosophy, and focuses on the dynamics of pain in its relation to establishing moral values. After completing his doctoral studies, he hopes to teach philosophy and religion at the college or university level. He is program director of the Trinity Institute, a nonprofit Christian retreat and study center located in Tehuacana, Texas. "

In other words, his "research" probably focuses on whether spanking before, after or during church services results a better establishment of "moral values."

I wonder if the Templeton Foundation would be interested in funding that stuff...

I think there has been quite a bit of research in this area already. :)

Kind of appropriate that Demsbki and his merry band of sycophants are right on the cutting edge of science that goes back to Paley...again.

Earlier Research - IDCist Scooped Again

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Come on Tough Guy, do the little dance of ID impotence you do so well. - Louis to Joe G 2/10

Gullibility is not a virtue - Quidam on Dembski's belief in the Bible Code Faith Healers & ID 7/08

UD is an Unnatural Douchemagnet. - richardthughes 7/11

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 07 2009,14:07   

Quote (J-Dog @ Jan. 07 2009,19:59)
Quote (Albatrossity2 @ Jan. 07 2009,13:30)
 
Quote (J-Dog @ Jan. 07 2009,13:22)
"Wayne J. Downs holds an M.Div. from George W. Truett Theological Seminary at Baylor University. His long-term research interest lies at the intersection of cognitive science and philosophy, and focuses on the dynamics of pain in its relation to establishing moral values. After completing his doctoral studies, he hopes to teach philosophy and religion at the college or university level. He is program director of the Trinity Institute, a nonprofit Christian retreat and study center located in Tehuacana, Texas. "

In other words, his "research" probably focuses on whether spanking before, after or during church services results a better establishment of "moral values."

I wonder if the Templeton Foundation would be interested in funding that stuff...

I think there has been quite a bit of research in this area already. :)

[SNIP]

{coughs delicately}

My studies in this area have revealed that the Monseigneur enjoyed spanking during church. Especially from on A. Chatfield Esq.

No more needs saying.

Louis

P.S. BTW keep talking about Fuller. His ego will drive him to post here, which will have the obvious hilarious consequences.

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khan



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 07 2009,14:10   

Quote (J-Dog @ Jan. 07 2009,14:22)
Oldman- From your link - Thanks BTW - that is some scary shit.... and so is this:

"Wayne J. Downs holds an M.Div. from George W. Truett Theological Seminary at Baylor University. His long-term research interest lies at the intersection of cognitive science and philosophy, and focuses on the dynamics of pain in its relation to establishing moral values. After completing his doctoral studies, he hopes to teach philosophy and religion at the college or university level. He is program director of the Trinity Institute, a nonprofit Christian retreat and study center located in Tehuacana, Texas. "

And even more importantly, could this nutbag be the "Baylor Bear" poster at UD?

Does he (or Behe) wear a cilice?

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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 07 2009,14:15   

BTW, what happened to the peer reviewed work Dembski announced.
Will he refer to the rigid peer reviewing process at erasmuspress soon?

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"[...] the type of information we find in living systems is beyond the creative means of purely material processes [...] Who or what is such an ultimate source of information? [...] from a theistic perspective, such an information source would presumably have to be God."

- William Dembski -

   
khan



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 07 2009,14:24   

Quote (sparc @ Jan. 07 2009,15:15)
BTW, what happened to the peer reviewed work Dembski announced.
Will he refer to the rigid peer reviewing process at erasmuspress soon?

"I done looked at my stuff and it were good."

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"It's as if all those words, in their hurry to escape from the loony, have fallen over each other, forming scrambled heaps of meaninglessness." -damitall

That's so fucking stupid it merits a wing in the museum of stupid. -midwifetoad

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 07 2009,14:26   

Quote (sparc @ Jan. 07 2009,14:15)
BTW, what happened to the peer reviewed work Dembski announced.
Will he refer to the rigid peer reviewing process at erasmuspress soon?

I take it that this is what you are referring to?

Dembski's Rigid Peer Review

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Come on Tough Guy, do the little dance of ID impotence you do so well. - Louis to Joe G 2/10

Gullibility is not a virtue - Quidam on Dembski's belief in the Bible Code Faith Healers & ID 7/08

UD is an Unnatural Douchemagnet. - richardthughes 7/11

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 07 2009,14:35   

Quote (Louis @ Jan. 07 2009,14:07)
Louis

P.S. BTW keep talking about Fuller. His ego will drive him to post here, which will have the obvious hilarious consequences.

Christ, Louis !  Fuller is living right by you!  So, stop by his house, knock on his door, grab him by his pencil neck, force him to log on here and get registered.

If he still squeals, tell him you will have his Green Card pulled, (or whatever you Brits have) and he will be packed up and sent to live back in the States.

No more warm beer and hot rugby matches...

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Come on Tough Guy, do the little dance of ID impotence you do so well. - Louis to Joe G 2/10

Gullibility is not a virtue - Quidam on Dembski's belief in the Bible Code Faith Healers & ID 7/08

UD is an Unnatural Douchemagnet. - richardthughes 7/11

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 07 2009,16:33   

Quote (J-Dog @ Jan. 07 2009,13:59)
     
Quote (Albatrossity2 @ Jan. 07 2009,13:30)
       
Quote (J-Dog @ Jan. 07 2009,13:22)
"Wayne J. Downs holds an M.Div. from George W. Truett Theological Seminary at Baylor University. His long-term research interest lies at the intersection of cognitive science and philosophy, and focuses on the dynamics of pain in its relation to establishing moral values. After completing his doctoral studies, he hopes to teach philosophy and religion at the college or university level. He is program director of the Trinity Institute, a nonprofit Christian retreat and study center located in Tehuacana, Texas. "

In other words, his "research" probably focuses on whether spanking before, after or during church services results a better establishment of "moral values."

I wonder if the Templeton Foundation would be interested in funding that stuff...

I think there has been quite a bit of research in this area already. :)

Kind of appropriate that Demsbki and his merry band of sycophants are right on the cutting edge of science that goes back to Paley...again.

Earlier Research - IDCist Scooped Again

But the research was conducted by atheistic materialists who wouldn't know a moral if it bit them on the ass. They never considered that parental savagery might have life-long spiritual benefits for children even when no short-term behavioral benefits relative to non-corporal punishment were evident. (HT: Denyse O'Leary)

Seriously, I wish I hadn't seen this. It makes polite exchanges with IDists awfullly hard. The oxymoron of Christian violence is always tough for me to abide, but when the violence is directed at children, I tend to go ballistic (yes, verbally violent - no excuse).

Does Dembski beat his "developmentally slow" son extra hard to make sure he turns out moral? I doubt it. He may take the child to the faith healer, but I'll bet that he also avails himself of all the non-mentalistic neuroscience explaining development and behavior in terms of the material brain he can come by. If he had an ethical bone in his body, he'd have taken O'Leary to task for her simplistic bullshit long ago.

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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 07 2009,16:45   

Patrick is so dumb
 
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Probably the lack of purported funding. Seriously, if the ID community has all this money then where is it? This website is not funded and I’ve never been paid for my efforts. The majority of ID proponents I know of hold day jobs that have nothing to do with ID research. And when they do attempt to get funding it’s usually an uphill battle. For one example, Dembski had his funding taken away at least twice.

I think it humorous, no hypocritical, that Darwinists often demand more research of ID proponents yet at the same time support any action to prevent such research from ever taking place. As such, ID proponents are typically limited to cheap options. For example, analyzing research accomplished by others and writing books is relatively cheap.

Although, I sometimes wonder why the Discovery Institute spends a relatively small percent of its budget on research. My guess is that they’re hoping to break down barriers to getting more funding for research. But what if the means for doing this might be research in itself?

The good news is that the equipment costs keep going down. So now it’s largely down to salaries…unless you expect people to keep ID research a hobby or something.

He's such a fool. It's not that  
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writing books is relatively cheap
writing books pays well!

Link

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I also mentioned that He'd have to give me a thorough explanation as to *why* I must "eat human babies".
FTK

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Gordon Mullings

  
utidjian



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 07 2009,18:36   

Quote (stevestory @ Jan. 06 2009,11:30)
gil says:

 
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I understand how it works. It throws stuff out so it doesn’t get perpetuated. How throwing stuff out creates new stuff is what I don’t understand.



One of the things I do running the physics labs where I work is machining. Machining is a subtractive process. The chips are removed (and recycled!) and I create something new. At the very basic level just about everything that humans make out of materials is a combination of additive (welding, gluing, screwing...), subtractive (cutting, machining, etching...) and formative (forging, casting, heat treating, bending...) processes.

Apparently Gil doesn't understand several hundred thousand years of tool and thing making. It is one of the ways we make stuff.

-DU-

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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 07 2009,19:36   

I had a stint where I programmed a miniature CNC mill with G code.

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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 07 2009,19:42   

Quote (utidjian @ Jan. 07 2009,18:36)
Apparently Gil doesn't understand several hundred thousand years of tool and things making. It is one of the ways we make stuff.

-DU-

Fixed it for you!

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Come on Tough Guy, do the little dance of ID impotence you do so well. - Louis to Joe G 2/10

Gullibility is not a virtue - Quidam on Dembski's belief in the Bible Code Faith Healers & ID 7/08

UD is an Unnatural Douchemagnet. - richardthughes 7/11

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 07 2009,22:03   

Anyone wanting to read along with DDrr.. Dembski in Wallace's World of Life can do so in this online edition. Note chapter XIX on Pain!

It is easy to see why Wallace's teleology would appeal to the ID crowd, though they will have to swallow a great deal of Darwinian evolution along with it. Makes me wonder what kind of "editing" they have done to the book.

Wallace was the master of proofs for evolution from biogeography. It is an area of consilient evidence that is never addressed by Paleyists.

No matter that the arguments from incredulity are almost 100 years old.

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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 08 2009,02:05   

I think some of the best reading on UD is in the wacky ads they're running.  Here's my current favorite:  
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God torture many in Hell?
Extreme but just? Is it loving? Rd how Hell is both loving and just...
Oh yeah, read how eternal fire is loving!

I just had to go to the web site and read it for myself.

Turns out they're pushing a book so valuable they're giving it way for free, either on line or in hard copy.  
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Hi, and welcome to Dennis Gilmour's novel, The Unveiling, online with commentary. The entire novel/commentary is available free online or in hardcopy simply for the asking, as the author desires to make his work available to as many as possible regardless of money.
Translation: Nobody will buy my book

 
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Dennis is a Spirit Evolutionist, and as such, he has a highly developed sixth sense. He can intuitively discern spiritual truth behind normal everyday things, like words/actions characters say/do in movies/TV, something someone says at work or at home, lyrics to songs, his own thoughts, natural wonders of nature all around him etc...there are spiritual metaphors all around us!
No translation necessary.

My favorite quote: "People all over the world started to panic and Marshall law had to be implemented virtually worldwide."

I wonder if Dennis is into martial arts.

This is Dembski class literature, all the way.  Maybe even O'Leary quality.

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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 08 2009,07:21   

Sounds like he had to marshal all of his arts to write that tripe.

(what's the expression?  Er, I'll get my coat)

PS  in re: Fuller and Warwick:  I've actually been to Warwick castle.  Bit of a letdown, what with all the wax figures and such.  I reckon Fuller goes to the dungeon bits to hammer out some of his best "ideas."

PPS  As far as the isles go, I'll take Torquay or maybe Llangollen if i were on an extended stay.

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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 08 2009,07:42   

Quote (SoonerintheBluegrass @ Jan. 08 2009,07:21)
PPS  As far as the isles go, I'll take Torquay or maybe Llangollen if i were on an extended stay.

That's funny, I hear that the SKYE is the limit!

er... where did I leave my coat?

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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 08 2009,10:12   

Jerry prevaricates:  
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I am interested in this discussion not because it will advance the ID position but because it is interesting from a philosophical point of view.
which he supports by saying:  
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What bothers me from what you said is that something that is called science in no way fits the definition of science and that is Darwinian macro evolution (origin of novel complex capabilities.) Do you agree?
 But this statement wins the tardcake:  
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So if one is honest, they would have to come to the same conclusion I do or else defend their belief that it is science. No one has ever done it on this site and have it stand up survived bannination.


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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 08 2009,12:22   

Seems to be a Khan shaped elephant in that chat room.

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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 08 2009,12:56   

Quote (midwifetoad @ Jan. 08 2009,12:22)
Seems to be a Khan shaped elephant in that chat room.

Yes, but currently, the really heavy lifting is being done by Sal Gal.

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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 08 2009,13:25   

Quote (mitschlag @ Jan. 08 2009,12:56)
Quote (midwifetoad @ Jan. 08 2009,12:22)
Seems to be a Khan shaped elephant in that chat room.

Yes, but currently, the really heavy lifting is being done by Sal Gal.

Interesting that SETI only works if ET thinks like us.

Another way of saying that the search for SETI is equivalent to the search for human artifacts, and rests on the assumption that we know something about the designer of the artifacts.

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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 08 2009,13:54   

My reply (as TheYellowShark) to Dembski's latest pile of tard is "awaiting moderation".

Let's see if it gets past the filters.

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   (3) Is it a coincidence that the world’s leading atheist is also a pathological Darwinist?

Dawkins has admitted numerous times that his acceptance of evolutionary theory led him to become an atheist.

Now ask yourself:
Is it a coincidence that the world’s leading ID proponent is an evangelical Christian? And ask yourself which view you adopted first, and which formed the basis for the other. (I’ve read your bio. I know.)

By the way, didn’t you say you were going to try to limit discussion on UD to intelligent design? With no more religion/atheism, global warming, or politics?

  
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