Joined: Jan. 2006
Kairosfocus is still consumed with the unfairness of it all:
|1 –> If we use brief summaries [which inherently cannot stand by themselves and are easily subjected to nit-picking objections], they are twisted into strawmen and occasions to dismiss and even disdain the case being made. |
2 –> If we use such summaries and link to external longer discussions, that is also ignored/dismissed or even met with the demand to “show us here and now,” joined to the same sort of strawmen as at 1.
3 –> If we make comments of sufficient length and development of points to even initially deal with the issue and likely objections, that becoems “too long” to address and/or is dismissed as mere empty verbosity.
That sounds uncommonly like: “heads we win, tails you lose, sides — you lose yet again.”
In the end, my position is to [perhaps with the able assistance of folks like SB!] make summaries for decision-makers, backed up with adequate discussions when these show up as necessary, and trust the many onlookers [FYI: by far and away most of these are NOT banned, AE folks . . . ] to across time see who is seriously engaging evidence and issues, and who is in the end playing rhetorical games.
[Let us never forget that that rather ungainly and rhetorically less than scintillatingly brilliant figure, Paul of Tarsus, was literally laughed out of court in Athens in Ac 17. But, at length, he it was who built the future.]
G’day all . . .
GEM of TKI
Laugh while you can, heathens -- KF is building the future (with the able assistance of lesser folk like SB and other "decision-makers").
And the set of natural numbers is also the set that starts at 0 and goes to the largest number. -- Joe G
Please stop putting words into my mouth that don’t belong there and thoughts into my mind that don’t belong there. -- KF