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tsig



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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 20 2009,21:43   

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Quote (Richardthughes @ Oct. 18 2009,20:26)
POEPLES WHO ARE HOMOS AND LIBRULS AND ARE FIRST AGAINST THE WALL COME TEH DESIGN REVOLUTIONS:

1) TARDEN CHATTERBOX
2) HORSE BOTHERER
3) PLEBMAN
4) *New entry* KIEFS.
5) P.DIDDYMOUSE

DvK - You want on this list?

I know what you're thinking. "Can he count to six or only five?" Well, to tell you the truth, in all this excitement I kind of lost track myself. But being as I'm an autodictater Polymaths, the most powerful force in teh universe (except for gravity), and would blow your mind clean off, you've got to ask yourself one question: Do I feel lucky? Well, do ya, punk?

If you'll blow my mind softly with those pouty lips who can resist.

  
Henry J



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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 20 2009,21:49   

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Get your tickets today! Remember, it's October 23-24, 2009, the ROCKIN' RAGNAROK OF RECKONING!

Two men enter, one man leaves...

Henry

  
Reciprocating Bill



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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 20 2009,22:07   

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It's the Cheetohs laced with Frolic Acid and MSG...

Back in the day we just called it "acid." Back in the day.

If you can remember the you weren't there "in the day"

Remember what?

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Myth: Something that never was true, and always will be.

"The truth will set you free. But not until it is finished with you."
- David Foster Wallace

  
Badger3k



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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 20 2009,22:56   

Quote (Henry J @ Oct. 20 2009,21:49)
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Get your tickets today! Remember, it's October 23-24, 2009, the ROCKIN' RAGNAROK OF RECKONING!

Two men enter, one man leaves...

Henry

Ah, hell, there ya' go - Rich is gonna get exited again.  Jest the thought of two men entering...

Who has the banana?

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"Just think if every species had a different genetic code We would have to eat other humans to survive.." : Joe G

  
Richardthughes



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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 20 2009,23:07   

I CAN DO MOAR NAMES ON TEH LISTS IF I HAS TOO.  :angry:

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"Richardthughes, you magnificent bastard, I stand in awe of you..." : Arden Chatfield
"You magnificent bastard! " : Louis
"ATBC poster child", "I have to agree with Rich.." : DaveTard
"I bow to your superior skills" : deadman_932
"...it was Richardthughes making me lie in bed.." : Kristine

  
sparc



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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 20 2009,23:13   

Quote (Henry J @ Oct. 20 2009,13:55)
Would a green banana prove anything?

This was the promiss to East Germans back in 1989.


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"[...] the type of information we find in living systems is beyond the creative means of purely material processes [...] Who or what is such an ultimate source of information? [...] from a theistic perspective, such an information source would presumably have to be God."

- William Dembski -

   
sparc



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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 20 2009,23:23   

Seems as if they are running out of personnel:
Meyer and Richards will have to give 4 talks, West and Bohlin will give 2 presentations. Only Dembski and Keas will only appear once on stage.

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"[...] the type of information we find in living systems is beyond the creative means of purely material processes [...] Who or what is such an ultimate source of information? [...] from a theistic perspective, such an information source would presumably have to be God."

- William Dembski -

   
sparc



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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 20 2009,23:27   

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Session 8: Incorporating Science and Faith Issues into Your Church, Ministry, or Career
they forgot to mention that the carrer of most students starts in a public school.

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"[...] the type of information we find in living systems is beyond the creative means of purely material processes [...] Who or what is such an ultimate source of information? [...] from a theistic perspective, such an information source would presumably have to be God."

- William Dembski -

   
keiths



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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 20 2009,23:43   

Quote (sparc @ Oct. 20 2009,21:13)
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Would a green banana prove anything?

This was the promiss to East Germans back in 1989.

Are Zonenfrauen the Jane Sixpacks of the DDR?

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And the set of natural numbers is also the set that starts at 0 and goes to the largest number.  -- Joe G

Please stop putting words into my mouth that don’t belong there and thoughts into my mind that don’t belong there. -- KF

  
keiths



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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 20 2009,23:44   

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The dissertation is nearing completion, thank god. Hopefully just another few months, and I'll be the proud (and probably unemployed) holder of a doctoral degree.

Well let me be the first to tell you:

Yes I'll have fries with that.

Ouch.

Don't tell him that.  He'll never finish the dissertation.

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And the set of natural numbers is also the set that starts at 0 and goes to the largest number.  -- Joe G

Please stop putting words into my mouth that don’t belong there and thoughts into my mind that don’t belong there. -- KF

  
someotherguy



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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 21 2009,00:02   

Quote (sparc @ Oct. 20 2009,23:23)
Seems as if they are running out of personnel:
Meyer and Richards will have to give 4 talks, West and Bohlin will give 2 presentations. Only Dembski and Keas will only appear once on stage.

Dembski's appearing only once because he just has the one sweater.

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Evolander in training

  
Touchstone



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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 21 2009,02:04   

Interstellar Bill is some exotic, high quality sock work!

Just sayin'.

  
didymos



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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 21 2009,02:33   

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Interstellar Bill is some exotic, high quality sock work!

Just sayin'.

My favorite bit of Interstelar Bill's work so far:
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Dawkins et al are reductionistic Procrustean nihilists, but I am an Aristotelean organicist advocating ontological holism via the quantum mechanical intelligence of macromolecular cooperation.


A thing of hilarious beauty, that is.


ETA:  Oh, this is pretty good too:
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bornagain77
As long as we’re off topic, please examine the book ‘Caesar’s Messiah’ by Joe Atwill. If the idea of the Shround of Turin being a fake gets you so riled up, then this book will make you apoplectic.


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I wouldn’t be bothered reading about the selfish gene because it has never been identified. -- Denyse O'Leary, professional moron
Again “how much”. I don’t think that’s a good way to be quantitative.-- gpuccio

  
Raevmo



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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 21 2009,02:35   

Gil and David met before and chatted in no less than two different languages:
     
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I met David at Biola University shortly after the first edition came out. We chatted in both English and French.

Luckily, I overheard their chat. It wasn't just the first edition that came out that day.

Gil: You are my favorite genius, mon amour. Well, except myself bien sure.
David: Oh Gil, quelle jolie frillee shirt you are wearing ajourdhui. What is your numero de room?
Gil: Does vous mindez if my good but dim buddy chunkdz joins us for la fun?
David: Mais non, but let's make sure he doesn't say anything. Il faut stuffer his petit mouth with something. But with what? Hmmm, wait...I have an idea...

The rest of the conversation is unfit for a family values board like this.

linky

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After much reflection I finally realized that the best way to describe the cause of the universe is: the great I AM.

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keiths



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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 21 2009,09:14   

Quote (Raevmo @ Oct. 21 2009,00:35)
Gil and David met before and chatted in no less than two different languages:
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I met David at Biola University shortly after the first edition came out. We chatted in both English and French.

Two languages?  They must be smart.  I'm going to have to reconsider my blind allegiance to monoglot Darwinism.

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Luckily, I overheard their chat. It wasn't just the first edition that came out that day.

Gil: You are my favorite genius, mon amour. Well, except myself bien sure.
David: Oh Gil, quelle jolie frillee shirt you are wearing ajourdhui. What is your numero de room?
Gil: Does vous mindez if my good but dim buddy chunkdz joins us for la fun?
David: Mais non, but let's make sure he doesn't say anything. Il faut stuffer his petit mouth with something. But with what? Hmmm, wait...I have an idea...

The rest of the conversation is unfit for a family values board like this.

linky

Lest you think Raevmo is exaggerating for effect, take a look at this hymn to Berlinski from 2008. Groupie Gil, camped outside the lecture hall, manages to accost Berlinski both before and after his talk:
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9 April 2008

My Meeting with David Berlinski — a True Renaissance Man

GilDodgen

Last evening I had the joy of meeting David Berlinski at Biola University during his tour of the U.S. to promote his new book, The Devil’s Delusion — Atheism and Its Scientific Pretensions.

I was hanging out on the front steps of the lecture hall when David appeared, and we chatted in both French and English. (As bizarre as it might seem, although I earn my living as a software engineer in aerospace R&D, my three college degrees are in French language and literature, and classical piano.) I was wearing my Harley Davidson windbreaker, and David asked if I was a Harley rider, to which I replied yes. He asked about what model Harley I rode, and expressed his passion for motorcycles.

David is one of the most eloquent, insightful, clever, iconoclastic, and irreverently humorous speakers I have ever had the pleasure to encounter. During his lecture he talked about the great successes of the scientific enterprise — especially in the 20th century with the discoveries of modern mathematics and physics — but how the dreams of this enterprise to explain everything have dissolved into fantastic and unsupported speculation (e.g., multiverses), in the name of the rational and objective science on which it is supposed to be based.

If the dreams of 20th century mathematics and physics have dissolved into fantastic and unsupported speculation concerning the big questions, then surely naive 19th century Darwinian speculation about the origins and diversification of living systems must be in even deeper trouble. But Darwinian “theory” seems to enjoy an extraordinary resistance to being falsified or even challenged. All evidence, however contradictory, supports it.

During the Q&A session I commented about how, historically, erroneous scientific theories are eventually overthrown when the evidence becomes irrefutable. David seems somewhat pessimistic about the imminent overthrow of Darwinism, because of the heavy investment in it on the part of the scientific community. I would suggest that this investment is multifaceted: philosophical, economic, and cultural (in academia, at least). And, of course, ridicule and persecution await any legitimate challenger, no matter the evidence.

But David quipped that if Darwinism is ever overthrown, it will be seen as a triumph of Darwinian theory — a theory so robust that it even predicted that the theory would be proven to be false.

After the event, I chatted further with David, and mentioned that I was a classical concert pianist. It turns out that David’s parents were classical concert pianists who studied with Nadia Boulanger and Alfred Cortot. It’s a small world.

I purchased a copy of The Devil’s Delusion last evening but have not had the time to read it. I will write a review at a later date. However, I found the following comments in the preface to be of interest:

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I am a secular Jew. My religious education did not take… I cannot pray. I have spent more years than I care to remember in studying mathematics and writing about the sciences. Yet the book that follows is in some sense a defense of religious thought and sentiment.

[...]

While science has nothing of value to say on the great and aching questions of life, death, love, and meaning, what the religious traditions of mankind have said forms a coherent body of thought. The yearnings of the human soul are not in vain. There is a system of belief adequate to the complexity of experience. There is recompense for suffering. A principle beyond selfishness is at work in the cosmos. All will be well.

I do not know whether any of this is true. I am certain that the scientific community does not know that it is false.

Occupied by their own concerns, a great many men and women have a dull, hurt, angry sense of being oppressed by the sciences. They are frustrated by endless scientific boasting. They suspect that as an institution, the scientific community holds them in contempt. They feel no little distaste for those speaking in its name.

They are right to feel this way. I have written this book for them.


I sense in David Berlinski a great Renaissance man, with a keen mind and a searching, warm soul. I pray that this soul will find that for which it yearns.

Gil clearly wants us to love him as much as he loves David Berlinski.  I'm afraid his soul is not going to find that for which it yearns.

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And the set of natural numbers is also the set that starts at 0 and goes to the largest number.  -- Joe G

Please stop putting words into my mouth that don’t belong there and thoughts into my mind that don’t belong there. -- KF

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 21 2009,13:47   

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"we chatted in both French and English. (As bizarre as it might seem, although I earn my living as a software engineer in aerospace R&D, my three college degrees are in French language and literature, and classical piano.) I was wearing my Harley Davidson windbreaker, and David asked if I was a Harley rider, to which I replied yes."


Shorter Gil:
"Being cautious of seeming effeminate to my UD reading audience, I will now douse myself in man-musk -- preferably *sigh* Daaavidd's. "

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khan



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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 21 2009,13:59   

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"we chatted in both French and English. (As bizarre as it might seem, although I earn my living as a software engineer in aerospace R&D, my three college degrees are in French language and literature, and classical piano.) I was wearing my Harley Davidson windbreaker, and David asked if I was a Harley rider, to which I replied yes."


Shorter Gil:
"Being cautious of seeming effeminate to my UD reading audience, I will now douse myself in man-musk -- preferably *sigh* Daaavidd's. "

A frilly shirt with Harley Davidson windbreaker?

Photoshop anyone?

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That's so fucking stupid it merits a wing in the museum of stupid. -midwifetoad

  
Raevmo



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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 21 2009,14:09   

GilBaby used to be an evil atheist darwinist, right? Could it be he took the lard jeebus into his heart in order to expel teh geyz demonz? I mean, let's examine the multiple lines of evidence here. The man (1) studied french, (2) studied french literature, (3) studied classical piano, (4) poses in frilly shirts, (5) has the hots for David Berlinski, (6) rides a Harley. Each piece of evidence on its own is already quite damning, if not entirely conclusive, but together... QED.

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After much reflection I finally realized that the best way to describe the cause of the universe is: the great I AM.

--GilDodgen

  
FrankH



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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 21 2009,14:13   

Quote (Raevmo @ Oct. 21 2009,14:09)
GilBaby used to an evil atheist darwinist, right? Could it be he took the lard jeebus into his heart in order to expel teh geyz demonz? I mean, let's examine the multiple lines of evidence here. The man (1) studied french, (2) studied french literature, (3) studied classical piano, (4) poses in frilly shirts, (5) has the hots for David Berlinski, (6) rides a Harley. Each peace of evidence on its own is already quite damning, if not entirely conclusive, but together... QED.

To be a trootm believertm in the good Dr^2's troupe, does one need to adhere to a strict "Don't ask, don't tell, don't fondle the other guy anywhere near a public venue" policy?

Or is it a "come as you can as often as you can in someone's can" policy?

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Raevmo



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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 21 2009,14:20   

Good questions. Has anybody ever seen Gil while the Dr^2 was wearing his famous huge sweater? There is room for an entire orgy in that sweater.

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After much reflection I finally realized that the best way to describe the cause of the universe is: the great I AM.

--GilDodgen

  
J-Dog



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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 21 2009,15:05   

Quote (Raevmo @ Oct. 21 2009,14:20)
Good questions. Has anybody ever seen Gil while the Dr^2 was wearing his famous huge sweater? There is room for an entire orgy in that sweater.

AND THAT SWETERS BIG FOR REASONS, NOT LUCK HOMOS - IT WAZ DESIGNED THATAWAY.  RITE THAT DOWN   dt

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Gullibility is not a virtue - Quidam on Dembski's belief in the Bible Code Faith Healers & ID 7/08

UD is an Unnatural Douchemagnet. - richardthughes 7/11

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 21 2009,15:27   

What BA^77 said:
 
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Wake Me O Lord

Wake me O Lord from this sleep of mine
To the living wonders of creation that are so fine
With a “Oh, that’s nice” I shall not content
NO, only when You speak shall my heart be spent
Others may suffice their cravings of Awe
With an “Oh Well” shrug of the wonders they saw
But I know You are in each piece of reality
Yes, in the wind, the stars, and even the sea
So this vow to You I make
No rest in me my heart will take
Till Your face and hands again I see
In the many waters of reality
For the truth be known to You indeed
That if I see You not with my heart and head
I’m not really born again, but instead am dead


What Nakashima heard:  
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Blah blah blah blah
Blah blah blah blah
Blah blah blah blah
Blah blah blah blah
Blah blah Jeebus blah
Blah blah blah blah
Blah blah blah blah
Blah blah blah blah


All Science So Far

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I’m referring to evolution, not changes in allele frequencies. - Cornelius Hunter
I’m not an evolutionist, I’m a change in allele frequentist! - Nakashima

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 21 2009,16:32   

Quote (deadman_932 @ Oct. 21 2009,14:47)
 
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"we chatted in both French and English. (As bizarre as it might seem, although I earn my living as a software engineer in aerospace R&D, my three college degrees are in French language and literature, and classical piano.) I was wearing my Harley Davidson windbreaker, and David asked if I was a Harley rider, to which I replied yes."


Shorter Gil:
"Being cautious of seeming effeminate to my UD reading audience, I will now douse myself in man-musk -- preferably *sigh* Daaavidd's. "

Unfortunately after a night of heavy drinking and antievolutionary man-love, Gil wasn't looking quite as dapper as he had in his Harley windbreaker:


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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 21 2009,17:31   

Quote (khan @ Oct. 21 2009,13:59)
Quote (deadman_932 @ Oct. 21 2009,14:47)

Shorter Gil:
"Being cautious of seeming effeminate to my UD reading audience, I will now douse myself in man-musk -- preferably *sigh* Daaavidd's. "

A frilly shirt with Harley Davidson windbreaker?

Photoshop anyone?



A quick and dirty job, but someone had to do it. Just for you, Khan.

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khan



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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 21 2009,17:42   

Quote (deadman_932 @ Oct. 21 2009,18:31)
Quote (khan @ Oct. 21 2009,13:59)
Quote (deadman_932 @ Oct. 21 2009,14:47)

Shorter Gil:
"Being cautious of seeming effeminate to my UD reading audience, I will now douse myself in man-musk -- preferably *sigh* Daaavidd's. "

A frilly shirt with Harley Davidson windbreaker?

Photoshop anyone?



A quick and dirty job, but someone had to do it. Just for you, Khan.

Thanks (maybe).

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"It's as if all those words, in their hurry to escape from the loony, have fallen over each other, forming scrambled heaps of meaninglessness." -damitall

That's so fucking stupid it merits a wing in the museum of stupid. -midwifetoad

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 21 2009,18:57   

No photoshopping required!



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JoeG BTW dumbass- some variations help ensure reproductive fitness so they cannot be random wrt it.

   
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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 21 2009,21:57   

Wow - Gil's man crush gets even stronger:  
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David Berlinski is a rare treasure, a true Homme de la Renaissance (French for a man of the rebirth – how interesting) in an age when very few such people exist. He speaks multiple languages; knows classical music, history, theology, mathematics; and can think and analyze on many levels. This combination of talents is extremely rare, and his willingness defy the powers that be is even more rare.

David knows which questions to ask (questions never asked or even considered by Darwinists), such as, “What would it take to re-engineer a car into a submarine?” This concerns the evolution of a land mammal into a sea-dwelling mammal. A few purported transitional fossils provide no insight into the efficacy of the Darwinian mechanism to account for the relevant engineering requirements.

Last, but not least, David is as eloquent, incisive, clever, iconoclastic, and humorous in person as he is in print.

My (snicker, giggle) bolding.

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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 21 2009,22:08   

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Wee Willy Dembski Productions (in association with Jesus, Inc.) Presents: An imminent APOCALYPSE.

Yes, fight fans, it'll be a clash of titans -- a two-day conference on the campus of Southwestern Baptist Theological Seminary that will pit the pure, heavenly God-inspired forces of faith against the foul humanist (*ptooie!*) DARK POWERS OF EVIL SCIENCE.

WHO WILL WIN?!?! WHO WILL EMERGE VICTORIOUS FROM THE STEEL-CAGE OCTAGON OF DOOM?

Buy your tickets now for only $75, yes, that's right, for that paltry price, YOU can be witness to the blazing, battling brawny brains of brutality of William Dembski, Stephen Meyer, Jay Richards, and John West.

These Masters of Metaphysical Mayhem will take on all foes, all the hellish heathen hordes of EVILUTIONISMS in a THREE-DAY ARMAGEDDON OF APOLOGETICS.

Get your tickets today! Remember, it's October 23-24, 2009, the ROCKIN' RAGNAROK OF RECKONING!

BE THERE!1!!...Be there...be there!

post of the week?

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F/Ns to F/Ns to F/Ns etc. The whole thing is F/N ridiculous -Seversky on KF footnote fetish 8-20-11
The geological maps that realist use to make money are all surface maps. -forastero

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 22 2009,01:31   

AT LAST SOMEONE APPRESCIATES MY GENIUOS. EAT JELLUSY, TEH REST OF YOU

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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 22 2009,02:08   

Revealed!  Why Berlinski did not include Toronto in his upcoming speaking tour:    
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Denyse: He could have had coffee with me at the very epicentre of the universe (Yonge and Bloor).

Even a second rate imitation of William F. Buckley jr. has some self respect.
Link

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Like every other academic field, philosophy of religion has its share of hacks and mediocrities.   Edward Feser

‘Anything is a “real possibility” in the mind of one seeking to deny the obvious.’ – William J Murray

  
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