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The whole truth



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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 09 2012,07:37   

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Folks:

Pardon, I have been busy elsewhere (not only with local issues such as that airplane crash of Oct 7th, but with addressing implications of current events for the world and region, cf here, here, here and here — my suspicion is, the first point where things are likely to go off bang, is that we are now very close to disruptive war in the Middle East, with oil spiking to unprecedented levels . . . ), but coming back just now, I see BD to Mung in 126:




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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 09 2012,12:40   

Quote (keiths @ Nov. 09 2012,01:26)
More delusions of grandeur from KF:
 
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Folks:

Pardon, I have been busy elsewhere (not only with local issues such as that airplane crash of Oct 7th, but with addressing implications of current events for the world and region, cf here, here, here and here — my suspicion is, the first point where things are likely to go off bang, is that we are now very close to disruptive war in the Middle East, with oil spiking to unprecedented levels . . . )wandering around Montserrat with my "The End Is Nigh" sign, but coming back just now, I see BD to Mung in 126:

Fixed.

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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 09 2012,15:01   

Quote (CeilingCat @ Nov. 09 2012,01:57)
Having looked at VJ's latest screed (on a PC, not an iPad), I have to note approvingly that it has pictures of a butterfly, an artist's impression of the multiverse (or the Jovian system four and a half billion years ago - it's so hard to tell), a protein, a Scrabble™ board, a highly idealized picture of a flagellum, a highly idealized picture of a type III secretion system, a highly idealized to the point where it's completely blank picture of Ron Numbers, a fossil trilobite, a highly idealized drawing of whale evolution (attributed to "Johnathan M. and Uncommon Descent" with no clue to where he stole it from), a beaver shot (SFW), a humpbacked whale breaching (possibly from the sheer joy of being a highly evolved product of evolution), a Least Weasel along with a semi-latched reprint from a Douglas Axe article attacking a real scientist's paper, a panda that is either eating a piece of bamboo or possibly playing it like a flute (you laugh, but with God, all things are possible) and a fossil "Maiacetus, a whale in the Protocetid family."

And then another 4,056 further words of text.  Don't try to tell me this is not a Major ID Article!

That was simply stunning.

I've got a mixture of vague thoughts right now. Amazement that they think posting busted, wrongly-premised calculations on a blog, for the millionth time, will somehow overthrow modern science.

Some kind of sad feeling that these nitwits were doing such worthless junk decades ago, and will be doing the same decades from now, while real science figures out such neat new stuff every year.

And boredom, because the ID community's not even entertaining anymore, the dead-enders who are left are just too pathetic.

   
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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 09 2012,16:09   

Quote (stevestory @ Nov. 09 2012,13:01)
I've got a mixture of vague thoughts right now.

Have you considered asking for UD posting privileges, Steve?  You meet the eligibility criterion.

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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 09 2012,16:09   

Quote (stevestory @ Nov. 09 2012,16:01)
Quote (CeilingCat @ Nov. 09 2012,01:57)
Having looked at VJ's latest screed (on a PC, not an iPad), I have to note approvingly that it has pictures of a butterfly, an artist's impression of the multiverse (or the Jovian system four and a half billion years ago - it's so hard to tell), a protein, a Scrabble™ board, a highly idealized picture of a flagellum, a highly idealized picture of a type III secretion system, a highly idealized to the point where it's completely blank picture of Ron Numbers, a fossil trilobite, a highly idealized drawing of whale evolution (attributed to "Johnathan M. and Uncommon Descent" with no clue to where he stole it from), a beaver shot (SFW), a humpbacked whale breaching (possibly from the sheer joy of being a highly evolved product of evolution), a Least Weasel along with a semi-latched reprint from a Douglas Axe article attacking a real scientist's paper, a panda that is either eating a piece of bamboo or possibly playing it like a flute (you laugh, but with God, all things are possible) and a fossil "Maiacetus, a whale in the Protocetid family."

And then another 4,056 further words of text.  Don't try to tell me this is not a Major ID Article!

That was simply stunning.

I've got a mixture of vague thoughts right now. Amazement that they think posting busted, wrongly-premised calculations on a blog, for the millionth time, will somehow overthrow modern science.

Some kind of sad feeling that these nitwits were doing such worthless junk decades ago, and will be doing the same decades from now, while real science figures out such neat new stuff every year.

And boredom, because the ID community's not even entertaining anymore, the dead-enders who are left are just too pathetic.

Hie Thee to FreedomWorks, young man!

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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 09 2012,19:39   

Robert Byers on Ben Carson:
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Nothing with public education. Better then ever in history.
Its all about identities that under achieve.
Blacks and Mexicans and others.
All about motivation.
those below and above and normal comes down to motivation.
This is great achiever in medicine and unique in the black world because he comes from a unique Christian origin which means strong creationist beliefs and he’s confident enough to talk about it.
That’s why they seek him out.


I'll say one thing for Bobby:  he is well-acquainted with "below normal".

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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 09 2012,19:46   

Quote (JohnW @ Nov. 09 2012,17:09)
Quote (stevestory @ Nov. 09 2012,13:01)
I've got a mixture of vague thoughts right now.

Have you considered asking for UD posting privileges, Steve?  You meet the eligibility criterion.

hahahahaha YOU ARE BANNED!!!!!!!!11111111111111ONEONE

sorry i got a bit too quick there. Have to get posting privs at UD before I start capriciously banninating the masses :-)

   
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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 10 2012,04:58   

Oh dear, they are still desperately trying to scramble away from our ape cousins. wd400 is not able to make them understand that Gauger's probability calculation is wrong on several levels, maybe the most significant mistake being arguing ex post. I'd like to slap them to make them come to their senses - how hard can it be?

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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 10 2012,10:32   

Quote (keiths @ Nov. 09 2012,02:40)
 
Quote (bornagain77 @ November 8, 2012, 8:10 pm)
‘You do not understand love at all.’

I beg to differ. From the tolerance, clarity, and patience, I have seen StephenB, over the last few years, exercise towards those who, IMO, unreasonably disagree with him, I would say StephenB has a far better grasp of the Christian imperative for love than most other Christians I’ve seen on the internet, especially myself!

Batshit77 must be back on the sauce.

link

That would be the StephenB that thinks (with GilbertD) that anti-ID commenters must be insane? Love you too, Steve!

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REC



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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 10 2012,15:40   

Barry, conflates the Central Dogma* of molecular biology and evolution in a post titled "Another Irony Alert"

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Naturally, UB expects that if the denizens of The Skeptical Zone were genuinely skeptical (in the general sense of that word), the “Central Dogma” of Darwinian Evolution would be the first thing about which they would be skeptical.  After all, Darwinian Evolution is perhaps the archetypical conventional wisdom of our time.  But that is obviously not the case.  Instead, The Skeptical Zone is a place where the Central Dogma is zealously defended.


*Which I think stands, despite reverse transcriptase, if we respect Crick's original proposal.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 10 2012,18:06   

Quote (REC @ Nov. 10 2012,21:40)
Barry, conflates the Central Dogma* of molecular biology and evolution in a post titled "Another Irony Alert"

 
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Naturally, UB expects that if the denizens of The Skeptical Zone were genuinely skeptical (in the general sense of that word), the “Central Dogma” of Darwinian Evolution would be the first thing about which they would be skeptical.  After all, Darwinian Evolution is perhaps the archetypical conventional wisdom of our time.  But that is obviously not the case.  Instead, The Skeptical Zone is a place where the Central Dogma is zealously defended.


*Which I think stands, despite reverse transcriptase, if we respect Crick's original proposal.

If you ain't skeptical about my pet peeve, you ain't skeptical!

But, yes, I'd be very interested if they had some evidence of amino acid sequence dictating a nucleic acid sequence. Not verbally, obviously.

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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 11 2012,23:50   

Quote (Amadan @ Nov. 09 2012,06:58)
Amadon      
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Shades of The Skibbereen Eagle!

The Montserrat Hall Monitor?

From the link at Wikipedia:    
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The Skibbereen Eagle, a newspaper founded in 1857, was famous for its international perspective by publishing an editorial that "told Lord Palmerston that it had “got its eye both upon him and on the Emperor of Russia."", and in August 1914 having a leading article that said “We give this solemn warning to Kaiser Wilhelm: The Skibbereen Eagle has its eye on you.”

That's so precious!  It reminds me of a UD bloviator challenging a famous scientist to a debate.  

And then calling them a coward two days later when they don't respond.

UD: Keeping the Spirit of Skibbereen™ alive.

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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 13 2012,01:18   

Axel is fitting in nicely at UD. In a thread Cornelius Hunter has started* he laments having been in the company of, presumably, theists who accept that evolution is real:
   
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...I once left a seminary I had been very happy in, because, on the basis of their own words, I strongly doubted if the liberal theologian ‘du jour’ and the doyen of scripture scholars were actually Christians. And for the same reason, I felt obliged to turn down an invitation to study at a Jesuit college. ...

ASSF!
*Corny has this to say as part of the OP...
   
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As we have discussed before, vision is profoundly complicated and it is not clear how it could spontaneously arise as evolutionists believe it did.

...which seems to me to be something so backward that even IDiots should disagree with it. They don't , of course, but there is some suggestion in the comments that he is using irony, so, well, go figure.

UD link.

Extra: More Facebook stuff! Another UD link.

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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 13 2012,02:24   

Quote (Ptaylor @ Nov. 12 2012,23:18)
Axel is fitting in nicely at UD. In a thread Cornelius Hunter has started* he laments having been in the company of, presumably, theists who accept that evolution is real:
       
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...I once left a seminary I had been very happy in, because, on the basis of their own words, I strongly doubted if the liberal theologian ‘du jour’ and the doyen of scripture scholars were actually Christians. And for the same reason, I felt obliged to turn down an invitation to study at a Jesuit college. ...

ASSF!
*Corny has this to say as part of the OP...
       
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As we have discussed before, vision is profoundly complicated and it is not clear how it could spontaneously arise as evolutionists believe it did.

...which seems to me to be something so backward that even IDiots should disagree with it. They don't , of course, but there is some suggestion in the comments that he is using irony, so, well, go figure.

UD link.

Extra: More Facebook stuff! Another UD link.

Have you noticed that the IDiot-creationists virtually always focus on things that can be said to be 'wonderful', 'beautiful', etc., such as human eyesight and butterflies?

I wonder why (not really) that when they're pushing the omnipotent, omniscient, loving, merciful, designing-creating power of their alleged designer-god they don't focus on or even mention things like bowel movements, urination, sweat, body odor, snot/boogers, crotch rot, athlete's foot, tooth decay, bad breath, ear wax, fat, toe jam, rashes, slobber, snoring, acne, warts, canker sores, and poor vision and BLINDNESS, etc. Aren't those things 'complex' too?

And if the omnipotent, omniscient designer-god of the universe and everything in it designed and created all the wonderful and beautiful stuff, didn't it design and create the not so wonderful and not so beautiful stuff too?



ETA: fixed a couple of typos

Edited by The whole truth on Nov. 13 2012,00:32

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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 13 2012,02:49   

Well....quite.
Monty Python Theological Dept.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 13 2012,05:34   

Quote (The whole truth @ Nov. 13 2012,02:24)
…if the omnipotent, omniscient designer-god of the universe and everything in it designed and created all the wonderful and beautiful stuff, didn't it design and create the not so wonderful and not so beautiful stuff too?

Take it away, Monty Python!
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All things dull and ugly,
All creatures short and squat,
All things rude and nasty,
The Lord God made the lot.

Each little snake that poisons,
Each little wasp that stings,
He made their brutish venom.
He made their horrid wings.

All things sick and cancerous,
All evil great and small,
All things foul and dangerous,
The Lord God made them all.

Each nasty little hornet,
Each beastly little squid,
Who made the spikey urchin?
Who made the sharks? He did!

All things scabbed and ulcerous,
All pox both great and small,
Putrid, foul and gangrenous,
The Lord God made them all.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 13 2012,06:29   

Libby Anne (part 2)!

Vjtorley has added another 11,815 words directed at Lucky Libby.  Only one picture, this time, of Obama.

Libby Anne, vjtorley has his eye on you!

Edited by CeilingCat on Nov. 13 2012,06:30

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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 13 2012,12:26   

Wow. That vjtorley sure thinks highly of hisself, don't he? I got weary just scanning that endless junk.

   
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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 13 2012,13:04   

Quote (Ptaylor @ Nov. 13 2012,02:18)
Axel is fitting in nicely at UD. In a thread Cornelius Hunter has started* he laments having been in the company of, presumably, theists who accept that evolution is real:
     
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...I once left a seminary I had been very happy in, because, on the basis of their own words, I strongly doubted if the liberal theologian ‘du jour’ and the doyen of scripture scholars were actually Christians. And for the same reason, I felt obliged to turn down an invitation to study at a Jesuit college. ...

ASSF!
*Corny has this to say as part of the OP...
     
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As we have discussed before, vision is profoundly complicated and it is not clear how it could spontaneously arise as evolutionists believe it did.

...which seems to me to be something so backward that even IDiots should disagree with it. They don't , of course, but there is some suggestion in the comments that he is using irony, so, well, go figure.

UD link.

Extra: More Facebook stuff! Another UD link.

ba^tsh^t is on a copypasta spree from hell Bedlam

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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 13 2012,23:37   

Quote (stevestory @ Nov. 13 2012,12:26)
Wow. That vjtorley sure thinks highly of hisself, don't he? I got weary just scanning that endless junk.

I don't know what's going on, but now I measure another 1k words and a dozen pictures that weren't there before.

It may be my internet connection.  It's getting more and more flakey.

Somewhere in that mess, vj takes Libby to task for having more than one reason to support her point.

What the hell do they put in the water in Japan?

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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 14 2012,11:15   

Sake?

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 14 2012,23:01   

Denyse is filling spamming yet another blog: bestschoolsblog run by James Barham.

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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 14 2012,23:10   

StephenB and nullasalus are having a tard fight. Barry stages an ALL-CAPS intervention:
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I AM CLOSING COMMENTS ON THIS POST. FUTURE COMMENTS ON THE SUBJECT SHOULD BE PLACED IN THE “GOD-OF-THE-GAPS ROLLED INTO THE CHANCE-OF-THE-GAPS” POST.


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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 14 2012,23:16   

Who do IDers hate more, atheists or theistic evolutionists?

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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 14 2012,23:54   

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Denyse is filling spamming yet another blog: bestschoolsblog run by James Barham.

I think she's jumped ship.

Possible reasons:

  1.  UD has gotten too stupid even for Denyse.
            Not possible.

  2.  Mung drives off another one.
            Naah.  I think they're in love.

  3.  Got into a bitch fight with Barry.
            Possible.

  4.  The TheBestSchools pays her more.
            Most likely.  It's hard to turn down 2 cents a word.  What would you do if somebody offered to more than double your pay?

Special bonus to anybody who can find any tie, no matter how trivial, between TheBestSchools and the school in the picture on their blog.  Is Barham the janitor there?

Edited by CeilingCat on Nov. 14 2012,23:55

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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 15 2012,05:25   

Quote (CeilingCat @ Nov. 14 2012,23:54)
Special bonus to anybody who can find any tie, no matter how trivial, between TheBestSchools and the school in the picture on their blog.  Is Barham the janitor there?

Ah, this is a trick question right?

As obviously the answer is that they stole it, so there's no connection at all!

It's from here:

http://www.england-360.co.uk/panos......ama.htm

The owner of the picture is one Paul Andrews whose website is here:

http://paul-andrews.com/....ews....ews.com

Please, nobody use the contact page to let him know...

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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 15 2012,05:41   

Quote (sparc @ Nov. 14 2012,23:01)
Denyse is filling spamming yet another blog: bestschoolsblog run by James Barham.

That template looks familiar. Part of me is hoping they took it without permission - we haven't had a decent Friday meltdown for a bit

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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 15 2012,05:59   

Quote (oldmanintheskydidntdoit @ Nov. 15 2012,05:25)
 
Quote (CeilingCat @ Nov. 14 2012,23:54)
Special bonus to anybody who can find any tie, no matter how trivial, between TheBestSchools and the school in the picture on their blog.  Is Barham the janitor there?

Ah, this is a trick question right?

As obviously the answer is that they stole it, so there's no connection at all!

It's from here:

http://www.england-360.co.uk/panos......ama.htm

The owner of the picture is one Paul Andrews whose website is here:

http://paul-andrews.com/....ews....ews.com

Please, nobody use the contact page to let him know...

Paul Andrews - is he the one who wrote "© All Rights Reserved" under that picture?

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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 15 2012,06:31   

The power of Absolute Morality.  I never realized how useful Absolute Morality was until I skimmed through Libby Anne (Part 2) by vjtorley.  Here's an outstanding example:            
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The second thing Libby Anne needs to know about utilitarians is this: their ideology tends to make them adopt views that any sane person would deem morally monstrous. If you want to know where utilitarianism leads, take a look at ex-preacher Dan Barker, who now says (see this video) that child rape could be morally justifiable, if it were absolutely necessary in order to save humanity. The scenario Barker is considering here is one where an evil and technologically advanced alien says he’ll destroy humanity if you don’t rape a child. Because Barker is an act utilitarian, he says he would comply with the alien’s request, although to his credit, he admits that he’d hate himself for doing so. I have to say that while watching the video, I was deeply impressed with Dan Barker’s honesty and his obvious aversion to the idea of performing such a hideous deed. Nevertheless, his utilitarian moral principles are perverse if they lead him to adopt the conclusion that child rape could be moral in an extreme situation.

I guess that's where Christians have an advantage over us atheists.  Because of my fallen morality, I would've said that it was better to rape a child than kill all seven billion plus humans on earth, including the child.  

I do have one tiny caveat - I haven't looked at Barker's video, but I'm guessing that he would not have called child rape "moral", I think he would have said it was something like seven billion times less immoral than killing everybody on earth including the child.  But of course, I'm just a fallen sinner.  I'm sure that if I had absolute morality, I would have done the right thing and just told that mean ol' alien to kill everybody.  Including that un-raped child.

I must confess to one other tiny caveat:            
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Now suppose instead that the evil alien says he’ll destroy humanity if a pregnant woman who wants an abortion doesn’t carry her pregnancy to term. According to Barker, the woman would be morally bound to do what the alien says. It would be her duty not to have an abortion, and it would be our duty to enforce the alien’s wishes and to physically prevent her from having an abortion, for the good of society. I can’t imagine that Libby Anne would accept that conclusion.

I haven't spoken to Libby Anne and, in fact, I have no idea who she is, but I think her whole point is that she puts human beings above fetal flesh.  If so, then I think she would carry the fetus to term in order to save seven billion plus human beings.  But of course, I'm just a fallen atheist sinner, so what do I know.  Perhaps vj could ask her before speaking for her?  Oh wait, it's too late for that.

P.S. I wonder what that "evil and technologically advanced alien" who is ready to murder everybody on earth's name is?  Could it be .... Yahwah?  Naah.  Yahwah didn't kill everybody on earth.  He saved Noah and his family.

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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 15 2012,06:36   

Quote (Bob O'H @ Nov. 15 2012,05:41)
 
Quote (sparc @ Nov. 14 2012,23:01)
Denyse is filling spamming yet another blog: bestschoolsblog run by James Barham.

That template looks familiar. Part of me is hoping they took it without permission - we haven't had a decent Friday meltdown for a bit

I wonder if Denyse came across that web site by accident, possibly while high on warm milk and cookies, and just assumed that UD had gone back to their old format and started writing?

Nah.  I'm pretty sure that some money changed hands first.

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