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Amadan



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(Permalink) Posted: April 29 2012,04:54   

Oh how they kick our arses hard when e'er we preach our creo-tard?

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(Permalink) Posted: April 29 2012,05:57   

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Occam's Aftershave



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(Permalink) Posted: April 29 2012,06:55   

Our own Dr. Elizabeth Liddle (Febble) has begun posting at Corny's blog and in her usual sweet, polite way is kicking the crap out of Corny's anti-science nonsense.

Corny so far doesn't know how to react - his normal smarmy denials and evasions won't work, and he knows it. So far he's just sort of hemming and hawing around, and just repeating his usual inane talking points.

This should be good. :p

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REC



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(Permalink) Posted: May 05 2012,11:40   

Hunter shows his photoshop skills:



Wonder if he knows research academics were one of Ted Kaczynski's favorite targets?

I guess I don't get the message-abandon your research, or you might get a ticking package in the mail?

  
olegt



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(Permalink) Posted: May 05 2012,13:26   

This is going to explode in Hunter's face.

The original ad was posted on a billboard by the Heartland Institute and had global warming in place of evolution. 24 hours later there was much outcry on both the left and the right, and Heartland pulled the ad.

Here is the story in the Guardian: Heartland Institute compares belief in global warming to mass murder.

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Febble



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(Permalink) Posted: May 06 2012,14:53   

I've posted a piece about Hunter and Dembski here:

http://theskepticalzone.com/wp....7

  
Soapy Sam



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(Permalink) Posted: May 14 2012,07:30   

Latest nonsense

 
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This evolutionary myth that adaptations arise by the slow process natural selection acting on random change appears several times in the standards, in spite of the fact that science shows that adaptations arise rapidly and non randomly in direct response to environmental shifts. Again, even some brave evolutionists are admitting these findings to each other.


Other than the 'rapid' part (how rapid is rapid?), that could have been written in 1865. Darwin thought adaptations arose in response to environmental fluctuations!

Incidentally, it is to Hunter's credit that he appears to allow all comments (though little else about his highly selective viewpoint reflects credit upon him). KF shows up with the usual guff, and BA77 chips in with a shedload more - quite like old times! Then off KF scuttles to UD to pontificate interminably on the comments, untroubled by right of reply from the people he directly quotes.

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The whole truth



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(Permalink) Posted: May 14 2012,09:37   

Quote (Soapy Sam @ May 14 2012,05:30)
Latest nonsense

 
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This evolutionary myth that adaptations arise by the slow process natural selection acting on random change appears several times in the standards, in spite of the fact that science shows that adaptations arise rapidly and non randomly in direct response to environmental shifts. Again, even some brave evolutionists are admitting these findings to each other.


Other than the 'rapid' part (how rapid is rapid?), that could have been written in 1865. Darwin thought adaptations arose in response to environmental fluctuations!

Incidentally, it is to Hunter's credit that he appears to allow all comments (though little else about his highly selective viewpoint reflects credit upon him). KF shows up with the usual guff, and BA77 chips in with a shedload more - quite like old times! Then off KF scuttles to UD to pontificate interminably on the comments, untroubled by right of reply from the people he directly quotes.

hunter used to allow most comments but now he's blocking or deleting comments that are derisive (in his opinion) toward him and/or other IDCs even though everything he says and everything his fellow creobot IDiots say is derisive toward non-IDiots. ALL he does and ALL he has ever done is attack evolutionists.

Want a good laugh? Picture him, ba77, mullings, and joe g out on the town trying to pick up some women.

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(Permalink) Posted: May 14 2012,11:00   

Quote (The whole truth @ May 14 2012,07:37)
Want a good laugh? Picture him, ba77, mullings, and joe g out on the town trying to pick up some women.

I find it impossible to imagine a homophobe of Gordshite's depth and breadth trying to pick up women.  "Dressed as", maybe, but not "trying to pick up".

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(Permalink) Posted: May 21 2012,15:11   

Hunter sets his pants on fire - his last and pathetic resort to prove Lizzie wrong.
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It makes no difference to me if evolution is true, false, or somewhere in between.


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Febble



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(Permalink) Posted: June 16 2012,06:58   

Cornelius has jumped the shark for me here:

http://tinyurl.com/bull2wp....bull2wp

I hope there will be a response on Pharyngula.

Edited by Febble on June 16 2012,06:59

  
olegt



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(Permalink) Posted: June 16 2012,08:54   

Quote (Febble @ June 16 2012,06:58)
Cornelius has jumped the shark for me here:

http://tinyurl.com/bull2wp....bull2wp

I hope there will be a response on Pharyngula.

Oh, come on, Liz. Hunter has been jumping all over that shark for a while now. On a previous occasion, he photoshopped Heartland's infamous Unabomber ad, substituting evolution for climate change.

I find it funny that Hunter refers to PZ Myers as a fundamentalist, even though Hunter himself teaches at Biola, the very place where Christian fundamentalism was born. If fundamentalism is so bad, shouldn't he put his money where his mouth is and quit Biola?

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(Permalink) Posted: June 16 2012,09:28   

I guess.

I think I'd repressed the memory.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: June 16 2012,12:13   

Quote (Febble @ June 16 2012,07:58)
Cornelius has jumped the shark for me here:

http://tinyurl.com/bull2wp....bull2wp

I hope there will be a response on Pharyngula.

Yes. But Lewontin!

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Soapy Sam



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(Permalink) Posted: June 17 2012,05:31   

Quote (Febble @ June 16 2012,06:58)
Cornelius has jumped the shark for me here:

http://tinyurl.com/bull2wp....bull2wp

I hope there will be a response on Pharyngula.

I usually try and go for a light tone. But what a stupid, arrogant, shit-for-brains fucknut. And good old King-of-the-Saved ba77 chimes in with that slime about objective morality! What does their Book say about bearing false witness, Love Thy Neighbour or Judge-Not? This does deserve some publicity - the thoroughly nasty side of what ought to be a force for good, however much I happen to disbelieve the factual utterances in the Bible.

Personally, I have never regarded atheism as a license to do what the hell I pleased. And even if it did, I can think of much more fun things to do than killing a bunch of people whose opinions happened to differ from mine.

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(Permalink) Posted: June 17 2012,05:39   

But Thorton raises a hearty chuckle: It's not just you Dr. Liddle. BA77 owes us all a new scroll wheel.

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(Permalink) Posted: June 18 2012,09:03   

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I am as capable of moral judgement as you are, ba77.


Oh now c'mon Lizzie, you're waaaay exaggerating here. BA77 is not capable of moral judgement.

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Amadan



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(Permalink) Posted: June 18 2012,09:38   

Oh he is - but just not about anything to do with morality.

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(Permalink) Posted: June 18 2012,13:47   

Quote (Amadan @ June 18 2012,09:38)
Oh he is - but just not about anything to do with morality.

Ahhh...touche!

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olegt



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(Permalink) Posted: June 25 2012,07:17   

This is sig-worthy!
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Believe me, atheists hold religious beliefs. It is just that the existence of God is not one of them. But that doesnt mean they dont hold religious beliefs. In fact, their religious beliefs are denied, go unexamined, and are more dogmatic. Thats fundamentalism.

LOL. A guy employed by Biola is wagging his finger at fundamentalism. Oh, the irony!

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(Permalink) Posted: June 25 2012,17:50   

Quote (olegt @ June 25 2012,07:17)
This is sig-worthy!
 
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Believe me, atheists hold religious beliefs. It is just that the existence of God is not one of them. But that doesnt mean they dont hold religious beliefs. In fact, their religious beliefs are denied, go unexamined, and are more dogmatic. Thats fundamentalism.

LOL. A guy employed by Biola is wagging his finger at fundamentalism. Oh, the irony!

Cornelius wants to have his cake and eat it too. Meanwhile, the rest of us are not allowed to speculate on whether or not the cake even exists, let alone has icing or not.

  
olegt



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(Permalink) Posted: July 15 2012,19:59   

I just had a eureka moment. All this nonsense Hunter has been pouring at us makes sense when you realize that he is not speaking to you (the evilutionist). He is talking to an invisible audience of students at Biola.

More on that here.

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(Permalink) Posted: July 15 2012,20:59   

Quote (olegt @ July 16 2012,10:59)
I just had a eureka moment. All this nonsense Hunter has been pouring at us makes sense when you realize that he is not speaking to you (the evilutionist). He is talking to an invisible audience of students at Biola.

More on that here.

I think that all of the ID crowd are preaching to choir. I think that Dover trial brought such an unwelcome light on ID that they gave up trying to convert anybody.

Does anybody pre Dover that the non-crazy MSM would uncritically publish anything by these guys with a token paragraph from a real scientist.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: July 15 2012,21:39   

I find it interesting how quickly the ID movement abandoned the facade of secularism. It's like they expand every day on the Wedge Document.

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Febble



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(Permalink) Posted: July 16 2012,05:51   

So does Cornelius get some kind of retainer from the DI to write that blog?

He seems a to have a quota to fill, like news on UD.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: July 16 2012,06:46   

I'm sure he does. He couldn't possibly run that blog for the pleasure of getting shredded in the comments on a daily basis. I bet he has nightmares about you :)

  
Febble



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(Permalink) Posted: July 16 2012,07:04   

Well, he must put up his posts late at night US time, while I'm having my breakfast coffee, so I often get first post :)

He's pretty good about not banning people though, I have to hand it to him.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: July 16 2012,08:39   

Corny has to be mental.  And, like Jon Davison, he would end up talking to himself if he banned people.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: July 16 2012,10:38   

I don't think he's mental. I think it's a strategy not unlike the political strategy of slinging mud. Your opponent can wipe it off, but some of it sticks. You are not trying t converth heathens. You are trying to give your own troops something to cheer about.

It's obvious that creationists scroll past science the same way we scroll past BA77. You only pay attention to your own side.

But the standard of evidence for apologetics does't overlap with the stand of evidence for science. So there will never be any actual communication.

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(Permalink) Posted: July 16 2012,10:53   

Quote (midwifetoad @ July 16 2012,10:38)
I don't think he's mental. I think it's a strategy not unlike the political strategy of slinging mud. Your opponent can wipe it off, but some of it sticks. You are not trying t converth heathens. You are trying to give your own troops something to cheer about.

It's obvious that creationists scroll past science the same way we scroll past BA77. You only pay attention to your own side.

But the standard of evidence for apologetics does't overlap with the stand of evidence for science. So there will never be any actual communication.



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