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OgreMkV



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 25 2011,09:19   

You're absolutely right.  Neither myself, nor most of the people I know, want to hear ignorance being spewed forth as if it was divine inspiration.  

We don't like to be called hypocrites by someone who can't prove that it is the case.*

We don't like to have thousands of scientists and researchers who have devoted their lifes to learning and knowledge be told that they can't do their work anymore by a 2-bit internet troll.

So, you are right.

I'll note that these types of things are not based on us however, Kris.  They are based on you.

If you want to really affect change, then meeting people halfway, being tactful, polite, and arguing with logic and evidence is the best way to go.

And no, don't start squealing about how mean we are to you.  This is 100% about how you act.  You could rise above all this and present your arguments, present your evidence and if we don't like it, then you can go away with pride that you tried your best.

Or, you could act like a whiny 4-year-old (I know, I have one) and demand things for no reason, respond with vile accusations with no foundation, perform acts that are not polite in civil discussion and potentially illegal, and just generally be a jerk.

How you act is up to you.  There is nothing that we can do to change that.  You could take the high road, but you haven't yet.  I suspect it's because you have no argument, you just want to whine.  So far, you have doing nothing to show my assumptions about you are false.


*No, your whining about it doesn't mean we actually are.  There's a big difference between what YOU think and reality.

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Louis



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 25 2011,09:31   

Quote (Kris @ Jan. 25 2011,15:18)
Quote (Louis @ Jan. 25 2011,06:51)
Quote mines with links to the original in context quotes? That's....original as a method of quote mining.

That word you use, I do not think it means what you think it means.

Louis

The quotes he mined don't show the entire or accurate context.

They link to the originals, right? They link to the context, right? So anyone interested can follow back to the original full context and examine whether Dale has honestly reported your arguments and words or not. That is awfully ineffective quote mining, if indeed quote mining it is.

Which part of this escapes you? Or is your palpable hatred of Dale* and unfortunately obviously lacking intellectual gifts blinding you to this fact?

Louis

*Posting personal details, poor move whoever does it, and some clowns in the commentariat of Pharyngula have done it and I've spoken out against it there too, so this isn't about infantile "sides" before you misunderstand. It's a wanker move of the first water, marking you out as a troll and a moron of high scumminess...but I digress.

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fnxtr



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 25 2011,09:34   

About The Author (Krissy)(from Encyclopaedia Britannica):

     
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The person most vulnerable to a persecutory paranoid state is the tense, insecure, suspicious person who has little basic trust in other persons, who has always found it difficult to confide in others, tends to be secretive, usuallly has few close friends and is addicted to solitary rumination.  These characteristics are sometimes hidden behind a facade of superficial sociabiltiy and talkativeness.  Above all, there is a rigidity about such a person's thinking which becomes most obvious when he is under emotional stress.  This may give an impression of certainty and self-assurance, but actually it is based on profound insecurity, upon a need to be dogmatic because of an inability to tolerate suspended judgement.


Cue tu quoque in 3, 2, 1...

btw, Kris, in case you missed it the first million times, yes, there might be a "designer" (shrug). Bring in some evidence and we'll consider it. Meanwhile, the grown-ups have actual work to do, rather than sit around in Foreman's basement with you.

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Louis



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 25 2011,09:39   

Quote (Kristine @ Jan. 25 2011,15:18)
Does anyone remember this?

Put a Sock In It

   
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Arguments we’ve heard many times before and don’t want to hear again.

If you insist on boring us with them you won’t be with us for long.


I'm pretty darn light with the stick (despite being "boss around here" which I am not), but I must admit that I now see this page in a new light.  :p

I am also reminded of a book of scenes for actors that I read when I wanted to become an actor, in which one character repeated, essentially, "I hate you, you suck, you're horrible, blah, blah," and then the director quizzed the actress on why she showed no emotional nuance in the scene. The actress replied, "Well, my character hates his character!" and the director replied, "No - if that were true, you would have walked out on him by now."  :)

The UD stuff aside (which, since it is full of IDCist boilerplate nonsense is best ignored by decent folk)

Regarding Kris: Ah well this presumes Kris is:

a) interested in what he claims he is
b) is capable of discussing what he claims to be interested in
c) is more than a vacuous troll

The answers to a), b) and c) are "he's not". Kris is butthurt and wants to hurt in turn. He has failed to realise he is too ineffectual to hurt, he is just a laughable muppet. Hence: MOCKERY!

Personally, I am loving the "marketing lecture" and macho comment to Dale of "you wouldn't last a second in marketing buddy" (or words to that effect). I genuinely LOLed IRL. Unintentional irony like that is priceless. Kris can be our dancing monkey for a while can't he? Please. I'll clean his cage and feed him and everything.*

Louis

*Kris, you are being mocked. Ask yourself why. If the answer you come up with is anything other than "because I, Kris, am acting like a mockable fool" then you lack the self awareness to participate in adult conversation. Go to therapy for butthurt and come back when you've grown up a bit.

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Louis



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 25 2011,09:42   

Quote (fnxtr @ Jan. 25 2011,15:34)
[SNIP]

Meanwhile, the grown-ups have actual work to do, rather than sit around in Foreman's basement with you.

OI! Some of us grown ups are sat in the office as opposed to the lab today and are desperately trying to avoid work thank you. It's January, time to bloody do everyone's job reviews again. 4 times a year now. Now I don't like threats of violence, but whoever dreamt up this HR model needs a swift size 12 applied to their gentleman fruit. Possibly with repetitions.

Louis

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Kristine



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 25 2011,09:48   

Quote (Louis @ Jan. 25 2011,09:42)

OI! Some of us grown ups are sat in the office as opposed to the lab today and are desperately trying to avoid work thank you.
Louis

:D  Some of us must go to work and deal with people, ya slacker!  ;)

My reference to "Put a sock in it" was definitely for Kris, who is like the actress I described.

Be good, all! Time for me to clamp down on swear words and sunflower seeds, and tell the kiddies to make up their minds choosing between coloring, Uno, and checkers.

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Louis



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 25 2011,09:50   

Quote (Kristine @ Jan. 25 2011,15:48)
Quote (Louis @ Jan. 25 2011,09:42)

OI! Some of us grown ups are sat in the office as opposed to the lab today and are desperately trying to avoid work thank you.
Louis

:D  Some of us must go to work and deal with people, ya slacker!  ;)

My reference to "Put a sock in it" was definitely for Kris, who is like the actress I described.

Be good, all! Time for me to clamp down on swear words and sunflower seeds, and tell the kiddies to make up their minds choosing between coloring, Uno, and checkers.

PEOPLE!!!!!!??????

Ewwwwwwww.

Louis

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Louis



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 25 2011,09:53   

Quote (OgreMkV @ Jan. 25 2011,15:19)
[SNIP]

....perform acts that are not polite...[SNIP]...and potentially illegal....

[SNIP]

{Ears perk up}

{Reads post in full}

I am Louis' painful sense of awesome disappointment.

;-)

Louis

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Kris



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 25 2011,09:57   

Quote (Kristine @ Jan. 25 2011,07:18)
Does anyone remember this?

Put a Sock In It

   
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Arguments we’ve heard many times before and don’t want to hear again.

If you insist on boring us with them you won’t be with us for long.


I'm pretty darn light with the stick (despite being "boss around here" which I am not), but I must admit that I now see this page in a new light.  :p

I am also reminded of a book of scenes for actors that I read when I wanted to become an actor, in which one character repeated, essentially, "I hate you, you suck, you're horrible, blah, blah," and then the director quizzed the actress on why she showed no emotional nuance in the scene. The actress replied, "Well, my character hates his character!" and the director replied, "No - if that were true, you would have walked out on him by now."  :)

If you're not the boss around here then why did you say you were "going to end it"? Did you think that just because you spoke that I would vanish?






"Arguments we’ve heard many times before and don’t want to hear again. If you insist on boring us with them you won’t be with us for long."

It's funny that you quoted the words above. Obviously it hasn't occurred to you or a lot of other people here that everything any of you argue has been argued by you and others many, many, many times. Apparently you think that your arguments are fresh and profound but any argument you don't want to hear is redundant and boring. You sound just like some of the religious zealots you complain about for not wanting your same old arguments for the zillionth time. And you wonder why I call you hypocrites.

If you don't like their closed ears, maybe you should think about yours too. Maybe you should find a better way of getting your message across to the public and the powers that be (government). Nah, a different way might work and then you wouldn't have religious intrusions to hate and bitch about.

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fnxtr



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 25 2011,10:02   

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Cue tu quoque in 3, 2, 1...


Quod Erat...

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khan



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 25 2011,10:03   

Quote (Kristine @ Jan. 25 2011,10:48)
Quote (Louis @ Jan. 25 2011,09:42)

OI! Some of us grown ups are sat in the office as opposed to the lab today and are desperately trying to avoid work thank you.
Louis

:D  Some of us must go to work and deal with people, ya slacker!  ;)

My reference to "Put a sock in it" was definitely for Kris, who is like the actress I described.

Be good, all! Time for me to clamp down on swear words and sunflower seeds, and tell the kiddies to make up their minds choosing between coloring, Uno, and checkers.

I took an early retirement with a small pension because supervising fundies was literally making me sick.

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That's so fucking stupid it merits a wing in the museum of stupid. -midwifetoad

  
fnxtr



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 25 2011,10:09   

Quote (Louis @ Jan. 25 2011,07:42)
Quote (fnxtr @ Jan. 25 2011,15:34)
[SNIP]

Meanwhile, the grown-ups have actual work to do, rather than sit around in Foreman's basement with you.

OI! Some of us grown ups are sat in the office as opposed to the lab today and are desperately trying to avoid work thank you. It's January, time to bloody do everyone's job reviews again. 4 times a year now. Now I don't like threats of violence, but whoever dreamt up this HR model needs a swift size 12 applied to their gentleman fruit. Possibly with repetitions.

Louis

Foreman's basement. 4:20. Be there. We can all wax... Krissish. Krissical. (snicker). Or something. (giggle).

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MadPanda, FCD



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 25 2011,10:12   

Quote (Kris @ Jan. 25 2011,09:18)
Quote (Louis @ Jan. 25 2011,06:51)
Quote mines with links to the original in context quotes? That's....original as a method of quote mining.

That word you use, I do not think it means what you think it means.

Louis

The quotes he mined don't show the entire or accurate context.

You keep using that excuse for some reason.  It doesn't fly.


The MadPanda, FCD

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MadPanda, FCD



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 25 2011,10:16   

Quote (Kristine @ Jan. 25 2011,09:48)
Quote (Louis @ Jan. 25 2011,09:42)

OI! Some of us grown ups are sat in the office as opposed to the lab today and are desperately trying to avoid work thank you.
Louis

:D  Some of us must go to work and deal with people, ya slacker!  ;)

My reference to "Put a sock in it" was definitely for Kris, who is like the actress I described.

Be good, all! Time for me to clamp down on swear words and sunflower seeds, and tell the kiddies to make up their minds choosing between coloring, Uno, and checkers.

(salutes)

Best of luck on watch, Kristine.  I have just the one Cub to watch over, and she's trial enough!


The MadPanda, FCD

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OgreMkV



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 25 2011,10:21   

Quote (MadPanda, FCD @ Jan. 25 2011,10:16)
Quote (Kristine @ Jan. 25 2011,09:48)
Quote (Louis @ Jan. 25 2011,09:42)

OI! Some of us grown ups are sat in the office as opposed to the lab today and are desperately trying to avoid work thank you.
Louis

:D  Some of us must go to work and deal with people, ya slacker!  ;)

My reference to "Put a sock in it" was definitely for Kris, who is like the actress I described.

Be good, all! Time for me to clamp down on swear words and sunflower seeds, and tell the kiddies to make up their minds choosing between coloring, Uno, and checkers.

(salutes)

Best of luck on watch, Kristine.  I have just the one Cub to watch over, and she's trial enough!


The MadPanda, FCD

Pretty soon, MP, you'll have to watch her and ALL the little male cubs that come calling.  

Me, I stuck with male offspring so only have one to worry about (well, that and Catholic priests).

Hey, Kris, just a question.  Are you going to comment on my post at the top of page 7?

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MadPanda, FCD



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 25 2011,10:28   

Quote (OgreMkV @ Jan. 25 2011,10:21)
Pretty soon, MP, you'll have to watch her and ALL the little male cubs that come calling.  

Me, I stuck with male offspring so only have one to worry about (well, that and Catholic priests).

Hey, Kris, just a question.  Are you going to comment on my post at the top of page 7?

That or the little girl cubs.  (Not saying that that'll happen, just admitting that I'm prepared for it.)  Fear not!  Prospective suitors will have to pass muster, for I am a prepared panda.

She's disarmingly cute, she is.  And she's very smart, which means that I'd have my work cut out for me even if I weren't planning on raising her on the classics (Sun Tzu, the Thirty-six Stratagems, Three Kingdoms...).  So Baba-Xiongmao must show he can plan several steps ahead.


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fnxtr



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 25 2011,10:39   

Quote (MadPanda, FCD @ Jan. 25 2011,08:28)
Quote (OgreMkV @ Jan. 25 2011,10:21)
Pretty soon, MP, you'll have to watch her and ALL the little male cubs that come calling.  

Me, I stuck with male offspring so only have one to worry about (well, that and Catholic priests).

Hey, Kris, just a question.  Are you going to comment on my post at the top of page 7?

That or the little girl cubs.  (Not saying that that'll happen, just admitting that I'm prepared for it.)  Fear not!  Prospective suitors will have to pass muster, for I am a prepared panda.

She's disarmingly cute, she is.  And she's very smart, which means that I'd have my work cut out for me even if I weren't planning on raising her on the classics (Sun Tzu, the Thirty-six Stratagems, Three Kingdoms...).  So Baba-Xiongmao must show he can plan several steps ahead.


The MadPanda, FCD

When I commented on how cute my buddy's 5-year-old daughter was, his response was "Yeah. I'm gonna have to buy a gun."

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Robin



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 25 2011,10:44   

Quote (Kris @ Jan. 25 2011,09:18)
Quote (Louis @ Jan. 25 2011,06:51)
Quote mines with links to the original in context quotes? That's....original as a method of quote mining.

That word you use, I do not think it means what you think it means.

Louis

The quotes he mined don't show the entire or accurate context.


Uhhh...of course it did...he linked to your entire comment, dingbat.

(rolls eyes)

What "context" do you feel was missing from the entirety of what you wrote? Did you image some additional "context" that you didn't actually include in the entirety of your response? If so, then by definition it wasn't part of the context.

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Robin



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 25 2011,10:51   

Quote (Louis @ Jan. 25 2011,09:39)
Kris is butthurt and wants to hurt in turn.


A scene from Tombstone (slightly edited of course) comes to to mind here:

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Wyatt Earp: What makes a man like Kris, Doc? What makes him do the things he does?
Doc Holliday: A man like Kris has got a great big hole, right in the middle of him. He can never lash out enough, or distort enough, or inflict enough pain to ever fill it.
Wyatt Earp: What does he need?
Doc Holliday: Revenge.
Wyatt Earp: For what?
Doc Holliday: Bein' born.


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MadPanda, FCD



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 25 2011,10:52   

Quote (fnxtr @ Jan. 25 2011,10:39)
Quote (MadPanda @ FCD,Jan. 25 2011,08:28)
Quote (OgreMkV @ Jan. 25 2011,10:21)
Pretty soon, MP, you'll have to watch her and ALL the little male cubs that come calling.  

Me, I stuck with male offspring so only have one to worry about (well, that and Catholic priests).

Hey, Kris, just a question.  Are you going to comment on my post at the top of page 7?

That or the little girl cubs.  (Not saying that that'll happen, just admitting that I'm prepared for it.)  Fear not!  Prospective suitors will have to pass muster, for I am a prepared panda.

She's disarmingly cute, she is.  And she's very smart, which means that I'd have my work cut out for me even if I weren't planning on raising her on the classics (Sun Tzu, the Thirty-six Stratagems, Three Kingdoms...).  So Baba-Xiongmao must show he can plan several steps ahead.


The MadPanda, FCD

When I commented on how cute my buddy's 5-year-old daughter was, his response was "Yeah. I'm gonna have to buy a gun."

I have...other means at my disposal.   :D  Guns are so banal and familiar.


The MadPanda, FCD

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Louis



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 25 2011,10:53   

Quote (Kris @ Jan. 25 2011,15:57)
[SNIP]

It's funny that you quoted the words above. Obviously it hasn't occurred to you or a lot of other people here that everything any of you argue has been argued by you and others many, many, many times. Apparently you think that your arguments are fresh and profound but any argument you don't want to hear is redundant and boring.

[SNIP]

Ok sweetie, I'll bite. Which areguments are these then? Please give details and be as specific as possibl. Now I know you've had trouble with that in the past, but try very hard and you might just make it.

Louis

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Kris



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 25 2011,10:55   

Quote (OgreMkV @ Jan. 25 2011,07:19)
You're absolutely right.  Neither myself, nor most of the people I know, want to hear ignorance being spewed forth as if it was divine inspiration.  

We don't like to be called hypocrites by someone who can't prove that it is the case.*

We don't like to have thousands of scientists and researchers who have devoted their lifes to learning and knowledge be told that they can't do their work anymore by a 2-bit internet troll.

So, you are right.

I'll note that these types of things are not based on us however, Kris.  They are based on you.

If you want to really affect change, then meeting people halfway, being tactful, polite, and arguing with logic and evidence is the best way to go.

And no, don't start squealing about how mean we are to you.  This is 100% about how you act.  You could rise above all this and present your arguments, present your evidence and if we don't like it, then you can go away with pride that you tried your best.

Or, you could act like a whiny 4-year-old (I know, I have one) and demand things for no reason, respond with vile accusations with no foundation, perform acts that are not polite in civil discussion and potentially illegal, and just generally be a jerk.

How you act is up to you.  There is nothing that we can do to change that.  You could take the high road, but you haven't yet.  I suspect it's because you have no argument, you just want to whine.  So far, you have doing nothing to show my assumptions about you are false.


*No, your whining about it doesn't mean we actually are.  There's a big difference between what YOU think and reality.

You keep proving my point about what hypocrites you are.

You said: "If you want to really affect change, then meeting people halfway, being tactful, polite, and arguing with logic and evidence is the best way to go."

You might want to actually do that then. Most of the people on this site, Panda's Thumb, Pharyngula, etc., are about as far from that as it's possible to be.

You said; "This is 100% about how you act."

Actually, it's 100% about how you and most others here act, and many of you have been doing it for years. Your words are here for anyone to see ya know, whether they ever respond to you or not. Remember what I said about a billboard in your front yard?

You said: "You could take the high road, but you haven't yet. I suspect it's because you have no argument, you just want to whine.  So far, you have doing nothing to show my assumptions about you are false."

Right back at you.

You said: "There's a big difference between what YOU think and reality."

Right back at you.

You said: "We don't like to have thousands of scientists and researchers who have devoted their lifes to learning and knowledge be told that they can't do their work anymore by a 2-bit internet troll."

Where did I say or even imply that scientists can't do their work anymore?

You said: "How you act is up to you."

Right back at you.

You said: "You could rise above all this and present your arguments, present your evidence and if we don't like it, then you can go away with pride that you tried your best."

Well, you could rise above all this and present your arguments, present your evidence and if the religious zealots don't like it, then you can go away with pride that you tried your best.

By the way, my pride is perfectly intact, no matter what happens here.

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Robin



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 25 2011,10:58   

Quote (Louis @ Jan. 25 2011,10:53)
Quote (Kris @ Jan. 25 2011,15:57)
[SNIP]

It's funny that you quoted the words above. Obviously it hasn't occurred to you or a lot of other people here that everything any of you argue has been argued by you and others many, many, many times. Apparently you think that your arguments are fresh and profound but any argument you don't want to hear is redundant and boring.

[SNIP]

Ok sweetie, I'll bite. Which areguments are these then? Please give details and be as specific as possibl. Now I know you've had trouble with that in the past, but try very hard and you might just make it.

Louis


Oh please...he's just so wrong. The mockery I've been posting is quite fresh and new. I know - I made them just this morning.

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OgreMkV



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 25 2011,11:04   

Quote (Kris @ Jan. 25 2011,10:55)
Quote (OgreMkV @ Jan. 25 2011,07:19)
You're absolutely right.  Neither myself, nor most of the people I know, want to hear ignorance being spewed forth as if it was divine inspiration.  

We don't like to be called hypocrites by someone who can't prove that it is the case.*

We don't like to have thousands of scientists and researchers who have devoted their lifes to learning and knowledge be told that they can't do their work anymore by a 2-bit internet troll.

So, you are right.

I'll note that these types of things are not based on us however, Kris.  They are based on you.

If you want to really affect change, then meeting people halfway, being tactful, polite, and arguing with logic and evidence is the best way to go.

And no, don't start squealing about how mean we are to you.  This is 100% about how you act.  You could rise above all this and present your arguments, present your evidence and if we don't like it, then you can go away with pride that you tried your best.

Or, you could act like a whiny 4-year-old (I know, I have one) and demand things for no reason, respond with vile accusations with no foundation, perform acts that are not polite in civil discussion and potentially illegal, and just generally be a jerk.

How you act is up to you.  There is nothing that we can do to change that.  You could take the high road, but you haven't yet.  I suspect it's because you have no argument, you just want to whine.  So far, you have doing nothing to show my assumptions about you are false.


*No, your whining about it doesn't mean we actually are.  There's a big difference between what YOU think and reality.

You keep proving my point about what hypocrites you are.

You said: "If you want to really affect change, then meeting people halfway, being tactful, polite, and arguing with logic and evidence is the best way to go."

You might want to actually do that then. Most of the people on this site, Panda's Thumb, Pharyngula, etc., are about as far from that as it's possible to be.

You said; "This is 100% about how you act."

Actually, it's 100% about how you and most others here act, and many of you have been doing it for years. Your words are here for anyone to see ya know, whether they ever respond to you or not. Remember what I said about a billboard in your front yard?

You said: "You could take the high road, but you haven't yet. I suspect it's because you have no argument, you just want to whine.  So far, you have doing nothing to show my assumptions about you are false."

Right back at you.

You said: "There's a big difference between what YOU think and reality."

Right back at you.

You said: "We don't like to have thousands of scientists and researchers who have devoted their lifes to learning and knowledge be told that they can't do their work anymore by a 2-bit internet troll."

Where did I say or even imply that scientists can't do their work anymore?

You said: "How you act is up to you."

Right back at you.

You said: "You could rise above all this and present your arguments, present your evidence and if we don't like it, then you can go away with pride that you tried your best."

Well, you could rise above all this and present your arguments, present your evidence and if the religious zealots don't like it, then you can go away with pride that you tried your best.

By the way, my pride is perfectly intact, no matter what happens here.

No, Kris.  It is about you.  Please, go to the search box and hit my username... read every post I've ever made.

Then compare them to the posts you have made.  

no nevermind.

You can't even read in that I told you it wasn't about us, it was about you being a whiny baby with no evidence.

Again, hypocrisy is a dangerous term, I suggest you retract it since you cannot show it.

Anyway, I'm done too until you actually start talking about science, which, considering the response to the ONLY CHANCE YOU HAVE TO CHANGE HOW WE ACT won't ever happen.

I'll try one more time.  We act the way toward that we do, because you are causing it.  Everyone here has told you that if you act like an adult with reasoned arguments, then we can talk just fine.  You bring incorrect arguments, demands, and spewing crap like you, then that's what you get.

If you can't understand that, then I suggest a return in elementary school until you figure it out.

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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 25 2011,11:08   

Quote (Kris @ Jan. 25 2011,10:55)
Well, you could rise above all this and present your arguments, present your evidence and if the religious zealots don't like it, then you can go away with pride that you tried your best.

Ah, that's the thing though.

A zealot cannot be convinced via rational argument.

A scientist can be convinced via rational argument.

So if argument does not work with religious zealots then what? Stand mute as they build temples to ignorance like the Creation Museum?

That might work for you, but some people won't stand idly by when ignorance is promoted as knowledge.

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I also mentioned that He'd have to give me a thorough explanation as to *why* I must "eat human babies".
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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 25 2011,11:15   

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By the way, my pride is perfectly intact, no matter what happens here.


at least you got something, shit stain

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Finding something hard to believe based on the evidence, is science.-JoeG

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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 25 2011,11:21   

Quote (Louis @ Jan. 25 2011,08:53)
 
Quote (Kris @ Jan. 25 2011,15:57)
[SNIP]

It's funny that you quoted the words above. Obviously it hasn't occurred to you or a lot of other people here that everything any of you argue has been argued by you and others many, many, many times. Apparently you think that your arguments are fresh and profound but any argument you don't want to hear is redundant and boring.

[SNIP]

Ok sweetie, I'll bite. Which areguments are these then? Please give details and be as specific as possibl. Now I know you've had trouble with that in the past, but try very hard and you might just make it.

Louis

"Which areguments are these then?" (sic)

The ones you and most other people here and on Panda's Thumb, Pharyngula, etc. keep making over and over and over and over and over and over and over and .......

You know, that science, scientists, and zealous science supporters are perfect and religious people suck. That pretty much covers most of what is ever said.

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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 25 2011,11:23   

Quote (Kris @ Jan. 25 2011,11:21)
Quote (Louis @ Jan. 25 2011,08:53)
 
Quote (Kris @ Jan. 25 2011,15:57)
[SNIP]

It's funny that you quoted the words above. Obviously it hasn't occurred to you or a lot of other people here that everything any of you argue has been argued by you and others many, many, many times. Apparently you think that your arguments are fresh and profound but any argument you don't want to hear is redundant and boring.

[SNIP]

Ok sweetie, I'll bite. Which areguments are these then? Please give details and be as specific as possibl. Now I know you've had trouble with that in the past, but try very hard and you might just make it.

Louis

"Which areguments are these then?" (sic)

The ones you and most other people here and on Panda's Thumb, Pharyngula, etc. keep making over and over and over and over and over and over and over and .......

You know, that science, scientists, and zealous science supporters are perfect and religious people suck. That pretty much covers most of what is ever said.

In other words, you can't support your own argument.

Match point.

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I also mentioned that He'd have to give me a thorough explanation as to *why* I must "eat human babies".
FTK

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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 25 2011,11:34   

Quote (oldmanintheskydidntdoit @ Jan. 25 2011,12:23)
Quote (Kris @ Jan. 25 2011,11:21)
Quote (Louis @ Jan. 25 2011,08:53)
   
Quote (Kris @ Jan. 25 2011,15:57)
[SNIP]

It's funny that you quoted the words above. Obviously it hasn't occurred to you or a lot of other people here that everything any of you argue has been argued by you and others many, many, many times. Apparently you think that your arguments are fresh and profound but any argument you don't want to hear is redundant and boring.

[SNIP]

Ok sweetie, I'll bite. Which areguments are these then? Please give details and be as specific as possibl. Now I know you've had trouble with that in the past, but try very hard and you might just make it.

Louis

"Which areguments are these then?" (sic)

The ones you and most other people here and on Panda's Thumb, Pharyngula, etc. keep making over and over and over and over and over and over and over and .......

You know, that science, scientists, and zealous science supporters are perfect and religious people suck. That pretty much covers most of what is ever said.

In other words, you can't support your own argument.

Match point.

hey, he's got his pride.

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You're obviously illiterate as hell. Peach, bro.-FtK

Finding something hard to believe based on the evidence, is science.-JoeG

the odds of getting some loathsome taint are low-- Gordon E Mullings Manjack Heights Montserrat

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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 25 2011,11:34   

Quote (Kris @ Jan. 25 2011,11:21)
You know, that science, scientists, and zealous science supporters are perfect and religious people suck. That pretty much covers most of what is ever said.


Oh for crying out loud! More lies? Is that all you can post, "Kris"? You are without a doubt dumber than a box of hammers.

But here...I'll give an out. Here's your chance to toss egg on my face: Find ONE POST...just one...where any PT poster who supports evolution - any one of us - has ever made the claim that science, or scientists, or zealous science supporters are perfect. Go for it.

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