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Erasmus, FCD



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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 11 2009,15:42   

just for gits and shiggles here is a nearly equally stupid comment on the very same thread

tard

I've almost quit reading the comments at PT over that doosh

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deadman_932



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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 11 2009,17:56   

Quote (Erasmus @ FCD,Sep. 11 2009,15:42)
just for gits and shiggles here is a nearly equally stupid comment on the very same thread

tard

I've almost quit reading the comments at PT over that doosh

FL gets absolutely nailed (esp. by csadams and Dan) making blatantly false claims.

The weird, hilarious, and possibly creepy thing is that this doesn't phase FL in the least.

Personally, I can't imagine saying (1) "this book says 'X' and makes no mention of 'Y,' " then (2) getting that proven false...and then (3) sauntering back in the thread as if nothing happened.

That would be completely outside of my ethical/moral ken to even engage in (1) without good certainty based on closely reading the actual text.  And yet, FL doesn't even blink an eye, metaphorically speaking. It's AFDave, jr.

Day-um.

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afarensis



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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 11 2009,19:18   

After wading through some of the threads on FL that y'all have linked to, I vote that we send Richardthugs 'round to give deadman 932 a good spankin' or something.  :p

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Church burning ebola boy

FTK: I Didn't answer your questions because it beats the hell out of me.

PaV: I suppose for me to be pried away from what I do to focus long and hard on that particular problem would take, quite honestly, hundreds of thousands of dollars to begin to pique my interest.

   
deadman_932



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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 11 2009,19:49   

Quote (afarensis @ Sep. 11 2009,19:18)
After wading through some of the threads on FL that y'all have linked to, I vote that we send Richardthugs 'round to give deadman 932 a good spankin' or something.  :p



Seriously, though: It's not really my fault. I didn't know and if I did, I didn't mean to. Plus there were extenuating circumstances. Society. Uh, I felt unloved as a child. I was possessed by spirits. Aliens. Yeah, that's it. Space demons. Satanic space demons controlled my brain.

Anyway, <Homer> sure I'm flattered, maybe even a little curious. But the answer is no!</Homer>

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csadams



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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 11 2009,19:58   

Quote (deadman_932 @ Sep. 11 2009,17:56)
The weird, hilarious, and possibly creepy thing is that this doesn't phase FL in the least.

Personally, I can't imagine saying (1) "this book says 'X' and makes no mention of 'Y,' " then (2) getting that proven false...and then (3) sauntering back in the thread as if nothing happened.

The dissonance seems to be SOP for those who are so used to denying reality.

As far as spanking deadman goes . . . um, why are you wanting to reward him?  :p

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afarensis



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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 11 2009,20:21   

Quote (deadman_932 @ Sep. 11 2009,19:49)
Quote (afarensis @ Sep. 11 2009,19:18)
After wading through some of the threads on FL that y'all have linked to, I vote that we send Richardthugs 'round to give deadman 932 a good spankin' or something.  :p



Seriously, though: It's not really my fault. I didn't know and if I did, I didn't mean to. Plus there were extenuating circumstances. Society. Uh, I felt unloved as a child. I was possessed by spirits. Aliens. Yeah, that's it. Space demons. Satanic space demons controlled my brain.

Anyway, <Homer> sure I'm flattered, maybe even a little curious. But the answer is no!</Homer>

You have been forgetting to wear your tinfoil hat again haven't you?

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Church burning ebola boy

FTK: I Didn't answer your questions because it beats the hell out of me.

PaV: I suppose for me to be pried away from what I do to focus long and hard on that particular problem would take, quite honestly, hundreds of thousands of dollars to begin to pique my interest.

   
Henry J



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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 11 2009,21:47   

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You have been forgetting to wear your tinfoil hat again haven't you?

Well, at least he wasn't foiled again?

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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 11 2009,22:17   

Quote (Henry J @ Sep. 11 2009,21:47)
 
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You have been forgetting to wear your tinfoil hat again haven't you?

Well, at least he wasn't foiled again?

Henry

Reminds me of the famous detective Gully Foyle, who was once investigating the mysterious suicide of a philosophy grad student.

Oddly, it seemed the young man had literally choked to death -- by eating pages of a class text he'd been reading.

It was Gully's faithful assistant, Guido, who reached a prying finger into the dead man's throat, dug out a chewed page and discovered the awful truth:

"All Hume in 'im, Foyle," he said.

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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 12 2009,00:31   

Quote (deadman_932 @ Sep. 12 2009,13:17)
Quote (Henry J @ Sep. 11 2009,21:47)
   
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You have been forgetting to wear your tinfoil hat again haven't you?

Well, at least he wasn't foiled again?

Henry

Reminds me of the famous detective Gully Foyle, who was once investigating the mysterious suicide of a philosophy grad student.

Oddly, it seemed the young man had literally choked to death -- by eating pages of a class text he'd been reading.

It was Gully's faithful assistant, Guido, who reached a prying finger into the dead man's throat, dug out a chewed page and discovered the awful truth:

"All Hume in 'im, Foyle," he said.

"All Hume in ee-im, Foyle"...

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deadman_932



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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 12 2009,00:41   

Furriners &  their language abuse.

I was tyred and didn't have "look up variant pronunciations" on my shed-duel.

Y'all should learn up on real American, dammit. And don't you try and start in on me, Louis, you Lobsterback. I'll sic the colonials on you.

Edit: my lousy attempt at humor aside -- does anyone know where the final "i" sound in "al-u-min-i-um" disappeared to in American english "alu-min-um" ?

Can we buy a vowel back? I'll haved to consult H.L. Mencken.

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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 12 2009,16:50   

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The different American spelling of what British English spells 'aluminium' sometimes cause puzzlement as to how it could have come about. This article tells that story.


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afarensis



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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 12 2009,17:31   

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The different American spelling of what British English spells 'aluminium' sometimes cause puzzlement as to how it could have come about. This article tells that story.

I prefer Darwin's explanation.
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Rudimentary organs may be compared with the letters in a word, still retained in the spelling, but become useless in the pronunciation, but which serve as a clue in seeking for its derivation.


Which, if I understand him correctly, means that the British insert extra letters into words because they have rudimentary organs*



* The possibility that I may have misinterpreted Darwin should be kept in mind. I doubt it, but anything is possible.

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Church burning ebola boy

FTK: I Didn't answer your questions because it beats the hell out of me.

PaV: I suppose for me to be pried away from what I do to focus long and hard on that particular problem would take, quite honestly, hundreds of thousands of dollars to begin to pique my interest.

   
deadman_932



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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 12 2009,22:21   

Oi, this ("debate" crap)  has all the makings of a debacle. I should learn to keep me big mouth shut.

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Arden Chatfield



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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 12 2009,23:08   

Three pages? This is like a weekend-long birthday party for someone who never shows up.

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afarensis



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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 13 2009,00:08   

Quote (deadman_932 @ Sep. 12 2009,22:21)
Oi, this ("debate" crap)  has all the makings of a debacle. I should learn to keep me big mouth shut.

Tard pimp, you're doing it wrong* :p


* If that was on a LoL cat this thread could die a happy death...

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Church burning ebola boy

FTK: I Didn't answer your questions because it beats the hell out of me.

PaV: I suppose for me to be pried away from what I do to focus long and hard on that particular problem would take, quite honestly, hundreds of thousands of dollars to begin to pique my interest.

   
Henry J



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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 13 2009,00:31   

So, about that biblical perspective on biology:

How many legs does an insect have?

Does a rabbit (or close relative of such) chew a cud?

Do bats have feathers?

Do snakes talk?

Do donkeys talk?

Can a dove find a fresh grown leaf in an area that's been under water for many months?

Can a large sea creature swallow somebody without digesting them?

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 13 2009,04:33   

I am afraid you have painted yourself into a corner you can't get out of without, well, you know what I mean.

I agree with what was said here, but I had been hoping that there would be some agreement about eligible topics. My chin dropped however at reading          
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Sincere thanks to all who provided input regarding topics.

Is this what you wanted?

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Lou FCD



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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 13 2009,07:56   

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Oi, this ("debate" crap)  has all the makings of a debacle. I should learn to keep me big mouth shut.

While the argument with the lying dirtbag holds no interest for me whatever, I'd be interested to know about your original motivation. What was the point of this?

(I apologize if that sounds in any way harsh or hostile, it's not meant to be. I'm genuinely curious.)

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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 13 2009,12:29   

He (FL) probably will not even reply, anyway. Nine months from now he will post an explanation (lie) or an excuse (lie) of how he was distracted or too busy or forgot. If so, I will be a little disappointed - I sort of enjoy seeing FL get kicked around like a soccer ball.

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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 13 2009,15:24   

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Quote (deadman_932 @ Sep. 12 2009,23:21)
Oi, this ("debate" crap)  has all the makings of a debacle. I should learn to keep me big mouth shut.

While the argument with the lying dirtbag holds no interest for me whatever, I'd be interested to know about your original motivation. What was the point of this?

(I apologize if that sounds in any way harsh or hostile, it's not meant to be. I'm genuinely curious.)

Lou: I'd already written a semi-"explanation" (mea culpa) earlier in this thread ;
 
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Bleh. Okay, I'm going to assume FL = male.

I'm responsible for inviting "FL" without having any real knowledge of his track record at PT or CARM or wherever. I just saw him posting at PT and disrupting a thread I was interested in. I didn't know it was a "regular" irritant there and my intent was to find a decent chew-toy.  I don't think this is it, but it might at least serve the purpose of keeping FL busy for a while. Maybe. I'm having real second thoughts after having read some of his claims and tactics.  (from here )


On reflection, I'd imagine that part of what puzzles you is that you already have a good working knowledge of "FL" from the Kansas episode, PT, or both and more.

I didn't really have that same prior knowledge that you do. I was reading the comments here on RBH's write-up regarding the "bloggingheads' faux pas. I normally don't bother reading comments at PT.

I saw a troll and pointed out that there's a whole forum for the kind of "debate" it was engaging in. That's really the sum of it.
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The thing is that there's a LOT of trolls everywhere, on every anti-creo or pro-science forum I read stuff at. I generally don't read a lot of comments at EVERY site, and I tend to filter out trolls. Hell, I'd seen FL as "Mellotron " at Talk Rat and even posted in the same thread it was infesting...and had no clue it was "FL."

Let's use Pharyngula as example. Lots of people read it, but in different ways. I rarely read through the comments -- but that's where the trolls dwell. Regular readers/posters ("regs") might *know* who the trolls are and might know/remember many of their names. I don't.    

Similarly, I could easily imagine someone encountering "smooth operator" at Talk Rat and saying "hey why don't you debate that crap in the proper setting?" Or AFDave. Or Ray Martinez. They're not all exactly equivalent trolls, but they are all trolls, just the same. If you didn't know their track record and M.O. you'd find yourself in the same embarassing position I'm in.

What I learned out of this was to not be so quick to "invite" and to check the track record first.

I can understand a genuine perplexity on your part (as a mod or "reg") when you KNOW the troll in question. I just didn't do my homework and as I said in another post, this was a "perfect storm of stupid on my part."

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Louis



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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 13 2009,15:37   

So does this mean we can go back to drinking heavily and mocking the Arden/RTH/Carlson menage a horse?

If so: Excellent!

I propose vodka shots for every "HAR HAR this is you" and skulling a full beer for every LOLCat.

Louis

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deadman_932



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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 13 2009,15:48   

Quote (Louis @ Sep. 13 2009,15:37)
So does this mean we can go back to drinking heavily and mocking the Arden/RTH/Carlson menage a horse?

If so: Excellent!

I propose vodka shots for every "HAR HAR this is you" and skulling a full beer for every LOLCat.

Louis

HA HA, THIS IS U  :


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Doc Bill



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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 13 2009,17:36   

There is no debate.

There is only mock.

The fact that FL can generate 3 pages of mocking WITHOUT EVEN FUCKING SHOWING UP is BRILLIANT.

(that took a lot of caps-on/caps-off work so appreciate it, please!)

I hear Louis is buying vodka shots.  I'm in.  Srsly.

  
Lou FCD



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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 13 2009,17:58   

Gotcha, Deadman. I didn't catch the whole lack of background thing, though I probably should have.

Carry on with the vodka shots!

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Lou FCD



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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 13 2009,18:02   

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There is no debate.

There is only mock.

Indeed, though lately I'm pretty much over even that. I only have time for the one-fingered salute with a hearty "Fuck off, TARD". On a patient day, I might add, "Read a book, moron."

Patient days are coming fewer and farther between, however.

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Arden Chatfield



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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 13 2009,20:46   

Quote (deadman_932 @ Sep. 13 2009,13:48)
Quote (Louis @ Sep. 13 2009,15:37)
So does this mean we can go back to drinking heavily and mocking the Arden/RTH/Carlson menage a horse?

If so: Excellent!

I propose vodka shots for every "HAR HAR this is you" and skulling a full beer for every LOLCat.

Louis

HA HA, THIS IS U  :

Let me fix that:

HAR HAR THIS IS LOUIS:



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deadman_932



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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 13 2009,21:36   

Arden : You heartless bastard. Louis is my FRIEND, I'll have you know.

As such, I demand grateful recognition of his unsurpassed amateur mycological skillz, which he is obviously employing in that very photo -- as he combs the soil intently for new fungal-based antibiotic cures to benefit all mankind !!1!moldy!11!!

How DARE you, sir.

ETA:  

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Henry J



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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 13 2009,22:35   

And all of this has what to do with the serious debate for which this thread was intelligently designed?

What?

Oh.

Never mind.

Henry

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 14 2009,01:15   

Well, hello there!  My apologies; it's 12:35 am CST, and I'd meant to be logged in at least an hour or two ago.  

So this is the legendary AtBC, hmm!  Looks like a most interesting saloon in which to conduct a gunfight....

And sincere thanks to Deadman for setting this up.

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Brief recap:  From tonite through Sun Nov 1, I will be explaining and defending the overall topic "Evolution Is Incompatible With Christianity" (including an emphasis on "the biblical perspective on biology").
followed afterwards by explaining and defending the overall topic "The ID Hypothesis is Science and should therefore be taught in Public School Science Classrooms.".  

Mostly I'll be posting and responding at night, but sometimes in the daytime too.  By Nov. 1, my intention is to be finished discussing both topics.  

Btw, I couldn't help but smile at Doc Bill's comment:

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The fact that FL can generate 3 pages of mocking WITHOUT EVEN FUCKING SHOWING UP is BRILLIANT.


Sounds like we all gonna have some fun up in here!  

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Louis



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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 14 2009,02:24   

Quote (deadman_932 @ Sep. 14 2009,03:36)
[SNIP]

...as he combs the soil intently for new fungal-based antibiotic cures to benefit all mankind !!1!moldy!11!!

[/SNIP]

Well at least THAT is true.

It just so happens I am checking for useful secondary metabolite producing soil organisms whilst pissed as a mattress?

Multitasking: I can does it.

Louis

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