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Dr. Jammer



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(Permalink) Posted: June 14 2012,03:21   

Quote (Tom A @ Feb. 11 2012,00:12)
You all know that he doesn't have the stones to show up right?

He's so  brave among his fellow bullies on UD, but he runs when confronted outside his turf.

I'm not even sure what you mean. Why wouldn't I have "have the stones" to show up here? You people aren't deluded enough to believe that anyone actually fears anything you say, are you?

Most of you, if not all of you, have been given ample opportunity to present formidable challenges to the people of Uncommon Descent. Each and every one of you failed miserably.

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(Permalink) Posted: June 14 2012,03:28   

Quote (Dr. Jammer @ June 14 2012,03:21)
Quote (Tom A @ Feb. 11 2012,00:12)
You all know that he doesn't have the stones to show up right?

He's so  brave among his fellow bullies on UD, but he runs when confronted outside his turf.

I'm not even sure what you mean. Why wouldn't I have "have the stones" to show up here? You people aren't deluded enough to believe that anyone actually fears anything you say, are you?

Most of you, if not all of you, have been given ample opportunity to present formidable challenges to the people of Uncommon Descent. Each and every one of you failed miserably.

That's a bit better trolling, but still too raw and over-eager. More foreplay required.

Well that's settled it, as official UD spokesperson you've put us in our place. The fact you can posts here freely if you choose (or TSZ for that matter) whilst UD simply removes comments and commentators they don't like (often without giving reason, or even admitting its happened) shows that they're the bastion of free inquiry and we're just not smart enough to cut it there.

Can you calculate CSI, DR. Jammer? No? Then fuck off.

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(Permalink) Posted: June 14 2012,03:30   

Quote (Dr. Jammer @ June 14 2012,03:18)
Quote (OgreMkV @ Feb. 11 2012,10:48)
Jammer, are you an ID expert?  Because I have some questions that those on UD and Meyer and Dembski and Behe all have utterly failed to answer over the last decade or so.

If you have some knowledge of ID, then I would appreciate answers.  I would hope that you have some knowledge of ID, since it is obvious that you have no knowledge of evolution... or tact for that matter.

But nonetheless I would like to discuss this notion that is ID.  Just let me know when you are ready.

kthks

I wouldn't say I'm an expert, no. That designation should be reserved for intellectuals such as kairosfocus, Stephen C. Meyer, and the great (and dearly missed) DaveScot.

My guess is that your queries have been answered repeatedly, and that you refuse to accept said answers. That's how it usually goes with you guys.

Oh, there's a meme there!

Guessing: Because research and fact finding is hard.

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(Permalink) Posted: June 14 2012,07:26   

Quote (Dr. Jammer @ June 14 2012,03:18)
Quote (OgreMkV @ Feb. 11 2012,10:48)
Jammer, are you an ID expert?  Because I have some questions that those on UD and Meyer and Dembski and Behe all have utterly failed to answer over the last decade or so.

If you have some knowledge of ID, then I would appreciate answers.  I would hope that you have some knowledge of ID, since it is obvious that you have no knowledge of evolution... or tact for that matter.

But nonetheless I would like to discuss this notion that is ID.  Just let me know when you are ready.

kthks

I wouldn't say I'm an expert, no. That designation should be reserved for intellectuals such as kairosfocus, Stephen C. Meyer, and the great (and dearly missed) DaveScot.

My guess is that your queries have been answered repeatedly, and that you refuse to accept said answers. That's how it usually goes with you guys.

Hmmm... how do you if they have been answered when I haven't even asked a question?

There's so much to explore here.  I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt here.

Let's start simply.

Should the information in a living organism be measured from the DNA sequence, the proteins, or something else?

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(Permalink) Posted: June 14 2012,09:37   

Quote (Dr. Jammer @ June 14 2012,03:21)
You people aren't deluded enough to believe that anyone actually fears anything you say, are you?

No, we don't believe anyone fears what we have to say; we know you fear us pointing out in recorded print where you are wrong however. Witness the expulsion of opposing voices at UD and the constant banninations of the same. It's one thing to ban some of us who were a bit snarky, but UD's ban of Lizzie...well...there's no better evidence of what you are all actually afraid of.

ETA: improved wording

Edited by Robin on June 14 2012,10:03

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(Permalink) Posted: June 14 2012,09:50   

Quote (Dr. Jammer @ June 14 2012,03:21)
Why wouldn't I have "have the stones" to show up here?

Showing up is one thing, having an adult discussion or debate is quite another.

So far you've done neither.

Are you one of Dembski's students trolling for his 15 posts or something?

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(Permalink) Posted: June 14 2012,10:11   

Quote (Dr. Jammer @ June 14 2012,03:18)
 
Quote (OgreMkV @ Feb. 11 2012,10:48)
Jammer, are you an ID expert?  Because I have some questions that those on UD and Meyer and Dembski and Behe all have utterly failed to answer over the last decade or so.

My guess is that your queries have been answered repeatedly, and that you refuse to accept said answers. That's how it usually goes with you guys.

You "guess"? You don't actually know whether or not the questions OgreMkV referred to have been answered? Hm. If you don't know, then how the heck can you sit there with your face hanging out, in front of God and everybody, and assert "That's how it usually goes with you guys."? I am given to understand that the God of the Bible doesn't much care for liars, deceivers, and false witnesses; indeed, He's supposed to have a lake of fire set up in the afterlife, a lake of fire that's just waiting for liars, deceivers, and false witnesses, a lake of fire in which Ninth-Commandment-breakers will burn for all eternity. Me being an atheist, I don't buy into the whole lake-of-fire deal… but since you Christians do believe in God and Hell and all, shouldn't you guys at least act like you believe it?

  
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(Permalink) Posted: June 14 2012,11:30   

Quote (Dr. Jammer @ June 14 2012,01:21)
Quote (Tom A @ Feb. 11 2012,00:12)
You all know that he doesn't have the stones to show up right?

He's so  brave among his fellow bullies on UD, but he runs when confronted outside his turf.

I'm not even sure what you mean. Why wouldn't I have "have the stones" to show up here? You people aren't deluded enough to believe that anyone actually fears anything you say, are you?

Most of you, if not all of you, have been given ample opportunity to present formidable challenges to the people of Uncommon Descent. Each and every one of you failed miserably.

Let's see, you ran away months ago after some hit and run posts, and now you're showing the same IDiocy you showed then and you'll likely run away again soon.

"Most of you, if not all of you, have been given ample opportunity to present formidable challenges to the people of Uncommon Descent."

Really? You know for a fact that most or all of us have been given ample opportunity, eh? When I first registered at UD my site didn't exist, and I had never posted here or on any other site that challenges ID or UD. I had no history of challenging, opposing, or bashing ID or UD at all. I submitted a post at UD and simply asked a few relevant, decently worded questions. That submission went to moderation and was never posted. I tried again and that submission went to moderation and was never posted and I was banned, even though UD says that they are confident in their position and welcome open and honest discussion. UD is run by and populated with fearful, lying IDiots, and you are a clueless moron.

By the way, how much "CSI" is there in a banana?

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(Permalink) Posted: June 14 2012,11:36   

Quote (oldmanintheskydidntdoit @ June 14 2012,07:50)
Quote (Dr. Jammer @ June 14 2012,03:21)
Why wouldn't I have "have the stones" to show up here?

Showing up is one thing, having an adult discussion or debate is quite another.

So far you've done neither.

Are you one of Dembski's students trolling for his 15 posts or something?

Or maybe he is dembski.

dr. dr. jammer dembski?

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(Permalink) Posted: June 14 2012,11:45   

I was "prebanned" by Dave Scott before I even tried to register. What punks.

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(Permalink) Posted: June 14 2012,11:57   

Quote (Dr. Jammer @ June 14 2012,01:18)
Quote (OgreMkV @ Feb. 11 2012,10:48)
Jammer, are you an ID expert?  Because I have some questions that those on UD and Meyer and Dembski and Behe all have utterly failed to answer over the last decade or so.

If you have some knowledge of ID, then I would appreciate answers.  I would hope that you have some knowledge of ID, since it is obvious that you have no knowledge of evolution... or tact for that matter.

But nonetheless I would like to discuss this notion that is ID.  Just let me know when you are ready.

kthks

I wouldn't say I'm an expert, no. That designation should be reserved for intellectuals such as kairosfocus, Stephen C. Meyer, and the great (and dearly missed) DaveScot.

My guess is that your queries have been answered repeatedly, and that you refuse to accept said answers. That's how it usually goes with you guys.

Intellectuals?? ROFLMAO!

And I'm especially ROFLMAO at you calling kf an intellectual. That guy is as ignorant and wacked as any nutcase who has ever existed. It takes a lot more than spewing a massive amount of nonsensical words to be correctly labeled as an intellectual.

You and I do agree on one thing though. I wouldn't say you're an expert either.

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(Permalink) Posted: June 14 2012,12:16   

Yeah, I've already thoroughly destroyed kf's giant webpage link argument and he declined to comment on my thrashing... or allow it to post for that matter.

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(Permalink) Posted: June 14 2012,12:26   

Quote (Dr.GH @ June 14 2012,09:45)
I was "prebanned" by Dave Scott before I even tried to register. What punks.

Your history of education and work in psychiatry, medical research, anthropology, teaching, and archaeology probably scared him plenty. The last thing IDiots want is to face people who actually know something and can see through their bullshit.

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(Permalink) Posted: June 14 2012,12:35   

Quote (OgreMkV @ June 14 2012,10:16)
Yeah, I've already thoroughly destroyed kf's giant webpage link argument and he declined to comment on my thrashing... or allow it to post for that matter.

As I'm sure you're aware, kf is a tyrannical dictator, and won't listen to or tolerate challenges to or corrections of his 'commandments'. No one on Earth is in a bigger state of denial than gordon e mullings, the monster of Montserrat.

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(Permalink) Posted: June 14 2012,13:09   

Hey jammer, if you're so concerned about wrongful behavior, why don't you go to UD and press kairosfocus (gordon e mullings) to confess to how many times he has beaten his children, wife, students, and others with "Mr. Leathers", and be sure to also ask him about his admitted friendship with murderers. Go ahead, show how concerned you are about "degenerate", "appalling", "disgusting", 'sleazy', "weak moral fiber" behavior.

And while you're at it, ask him to produce evidence of me threatening him and his family "mafioso style". He has accused me of that several times but won't even respond to my repeated requests or challenges to him to produce evidence of the alleged threats, and of course that's because he is willfully LYING.

Edited by The whole truth on June 14 2012,11:12

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(Permalink) Posted: June 15 2012,01:12   

It really is too bad that ID is nothing but Yet Another Attempt To Court-Proof Creationism In the USA. Because the ostensibly-stated purpose of ID, i.e., "to detect the presence of Design", touches on some really, really interesting topics, and a genuinely valid protocol for detecting Design would be useful for a wide range of purposes.
For instance: Any English sentence is clearly Designed by the person who uttered it, and the sentence stays Designed when it's converted into a different means of expression, such as by translating it into a different language… or by 'scrambling' it with whichever flavor of encryption. So let's say you're a military codebreaker, and you know that your enemy is using a highly advanced mode of encryption that makes their coded messages appear to be indistinguishable from white noise. With a genuine Design-detection protocol, you can determine whether or not any given stretch of white noise is actually a coded message (and therefore needs more attention), or just white noise (and therefore can be safely ignored). In this way, a genuine Design-detection protocol would be of great value to national security!
For example: While ID does not presently claim to be able to do anything more than just determine whether or not a given whatzit actually is Designed, a logical extension of this basic capability is being able to determine whether or not two different whatzits were Designed by the same Designer. Such a capability has obvious implications for enforcement of copyright law, not so?
But of course, there just aren't any ID-pushers who are working on applying Design-detection to national security, or to copyright law enforcement, or, indeed, applying Design-detection to any purpose whatsoever other than Proving Evolution Wrong. If Jammer knows of any ID-pusher who actually is trying to apply Design-detection to any other purpose than Proving Evolution Wrong, I would be interested to hear about that person!

  
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(Permalink) Posted: June 15 2012,09:13   

Actually there are programs that attempt to determine authorship, and there are programs that test datasets for tampering.

I see no reason why you couldn't test genome trees for evolvability. In fact I think it's being done. But not by ID proponentsists.

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(Permalink) Posted: June 15 2012,09:20   

He's not coming back is he?

I haz a sad.

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(Permalink) Posted: June 15 2012,10:15   

Quote (Dr.GH @ June 14 2012,19:45)
I was "prebanned" by Dave Scott before I even tried to register. What punks.

Of course you were, your stones are too big.


And if they are normal size then that can only mean that the average pebble size at UD is more of a marble.

They all suffer from cahuna envy.

I tried to switch the light on there a couple of times but they all scurried down a crack in the floor.

Dr Jammer is just short a few marbles.

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(Permalink) Posted: June 15 2012,16:06   

damn.

ya'll broke another one.  

joe was broke-back right outta the box but this one briefly showed a bit of promise as the next source of amusement.

this is why we can't have nice things around here.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: June 15 2012,22:54   

Quote (rhmc @ June 15 2012,16:06)
damn.

ya'll broke another one.  

joe was broke-back right outta the box but this one briefly showed a bit of promise as the next source of amusement.

this is why we can't have nice things around here.

Is that all it takes to break them?  How fragile...

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(Permalink) Posted: June 16 2012,06:44   

I have a number of questions I would like to ask of Dr. Jammer.
I don't want to waste time making a number of serious questions before I know that he will respond here. I have doubts.

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(Permalink) Posted: June 17 2012,05:11   

Quote (Quack @ June 16 2012,06:44)
I have a number of questions I would like to ask of Dr. Jammer.
I don't want to waste time making a number of serious questions before I know that he will respond here. I have doubts.

Weren't you listening? All your questions have all been answered many times by the intellectuals of UD - even the ones you haven't asked yet, that's how far ahead of the game they are. It would be tiresome in the extreme to actually go in and pull them out, or to rephrase them anew for a clearly hostile audience. But it is all in there. Somewhere.

Not our fault you have reading comprehension issues. We have a marvellous, groundbreaking new theory, but there is no point in going through it all again. Reread the posts. All of them.

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(Permalink) Posted: June 25 2012,07:29   

Hey jammer, have you seen this demonstration of the religion/creationism that is called 'intelligent design'? Take a good, long look at that whole site (and any other site that pushes ID) and then try to convince me that the ID agenda is scientific, not religious.

And do you know that joe g (now going by Joseph on UD) used to be listed as an "author" on that site? Yep, it's true. Check out this screen grab of their previous authors page, and scroll down to "JOE GALLIEN":



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(Permalink) Posted: April 07 2013,02:37   

Quote (Richardthughes @ June 14 2012,03:28)
Quote (Dr. Jammer @ June 14 2012,03:21)
Quote (Tom A @ Feb. 11 2012,00:12)
You all know that he doesn't have the stones to show up right?

He's so  brave among his fellow bullies on UD, but he runs when confronted outside his turf.

I'm not even sure what you mean. Why wouldn't I have "have the stones" to show up here? You people aren't deluded enough to believe that anyone actually fears anything you say, are you?

Most of you, if not all of you, have been given ample opportunity to present formidable challenges to the people of Uncommon Descent. Each and every one of you failed miserably.

That's a bit better trolling, but still too raw and over-eager. More foreplay required.

Well that's settled it, as official UD spokesperson you've put us in our place. The fact you can posts here freely if you choose (or TSZ for that matter) whilst UD simply removes comments and commentators they don't like (often without giving reason, or even admitting its happened) shows that they're the bastion of free inquiry and we're just not smart enough to cut it there.

Can you calculate CSI, DR. Jammer? No? Then fuck off.

"Jarred Jammer" has just shown up at TSZ. Could it be our dear Doctor?

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(Permalink) Posted: April 12 2013,21:54   

Quote (Richardthughes @ April 07 2013,02:37)
Quote (Richardthughes @ June 14 2012,03:28)
Quote (Dr. Jammer @ June 14 2012,03:21)
 
Quote (Tom A @ Feb. 11 2012,00:12)
You all know that he doesn't have the stones to show up right?

He's so  brave among his fellow bullies on UD, but he runs when confronted outside his turf.

I'm not even sure what you mean. Why wouldn't I have "have the stones" to show up here? You people aren't deluded enough to believe that anyone actually fears anything you say, are you?

Most of you, if not all of you, have been given ample opportunity to present formidable challenges to the people of Uncommon Descent. Each and every one of you failed miserably.

That's a bit better trolling, but still too raw and over-eager. More foreplay required.

Well that's settled it, as official UD spokesperson you've put us in our place. The fact you can posts here freely if you choose (or TSZ for that matter) whilst UD simply removes comments and commentators they don't like (often without giving reason, or even admitting its happened) shows that they're the bastion of free inquiry and we're just not smart enough to cut it there.

Can you calculate CSI, DR. Jammer? No? Then fuck off.

"Jarred Jammer" has just shown up at TSZ. Could it be our dear Doctor?

Is he denser than neutronium?  If so, I say yes, it is the same person.

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(Permalink) Posted: April 21 2013,11:31   

Quote (Dr. Jammer @ June 14 2012,03:18)

Quote (Dr. Jammer @ Feb. 12 2012, 12:28)
I wouldn't say I'm an expert, no. That designation should be reserved for intellectuals such as kairosfocus, Stephen C. Meyer, and the great (and dearly missed) DaveScot.


Which, have all been shown to know nothing about what they're talking about. Such "great intellectuals".

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