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BWE



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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 29 2011,15:55   

It had to be done. I'm sorry to those who take offense.:
http://talkrational.org/showthr....1614346

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Schroedinger's Dog



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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 29 2011,17:07   

When Herman"s Hermits sing The company was gay, is it homophobic?

When Peter Paul and Mary sing Puff the magic dragon, are they advocating drug use?

When the Chordettes sing Lollipop do they sport for blowjobs?


To be honest, I felt like listeinng to some oldies-but-goodies...

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carlsonjok



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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 29 2011,17:35   

Quote (BWE @ Nov. 29 2011,15:55)
It had to be done. I'm sorry to those who take offense.:
http://talkrational.org/showthr....1614346

Wait a minute.  The horde over at Pharyngula is taking on Elizabeth Liddle?  This is not going to end well for them.



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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 29 2011,18:01   

O.o

Those posts are enough to make one wonder if 'ol Vox Day is right about at least one thing....his equation of atheism and social autism.  Now, I'm being sarcastic here, but still....how can anyone over there ever think they are going to change minds with those kind of attitudes and positively nasty argumentative style.  I think, though, that that site may just be more of a ranting arena?

Here's what jumped out at me for some reason:

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Ichthyic was a person who already was well established and well regarded when I first got the nerve to start commenting here. In fact, if you goes up to the top of the page and click the tab that says Mollies, you will see that he was awarded one for June 2007. That means that the readers of this blog finds that his comments have worth.


I remember Ichthyic well....exactly the type of person I'd expect PZ et. al. to honor.  yikes

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BWE



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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 29 2011,18:03   

They apparently dont get out much. I swear i didnt put her up to it.

I now have my template for fundamentalist atheism though. What did you think? Should i take it prime time?

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BWE



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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 29 2011,18:05   

Quote (Ftk @ Nov. 29 2011,16:01)
O.o

Those posts are enough to make one wonder if 'ol Vox Day is right about at least one thing....his equation of atheism and social autism.  Now, I'm being sarcastic here, but still....how can anyone over there ever think they are going to change minds with those kind of attitudes and positively nasty argumentative style.  I think, though, that that site may just be more of a ranting arena?

Here's what jumped out at me for some reason:

 
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Ichthyic was a person who already was well established and well regarded when I first got the nerve to start commenting here. In fact, if you goes up to the top of the page and click the tab that says Mollies, you will see that he was awarded one for June 2007. That means that the readers of this blog finds that his comments have worth.


I remember Ichthyic well....exactly the type of person I'd expect PZ et. al. to honor.  yikes

And this is exactly why post atheism starts now. :)

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Zarquon



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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 29 2011,18:55   

You guys post reams and reams of homophobic bullshit e.g. "HOMO" and sexist crap and you are complaining about the tone on Pharyngula?. Get your own fucking house in order, then complain.

  
BWE



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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 29 2011,19:05   

Quote (Zarquon @ Nov. 29 2011,16:55)
You guys post reams and reams of homophobic bullshit e.g. "HOMO" and sexist crap and you are complaining about the tone on Pharyngula?. Get your own fucking house in order, then complain.

I havent posted any homophobic bullshit at all and its me that claimed pharyngula has become a source of fundamentalist atheism. Also that pz condones what is essentially hate speech. Someone wanted proof so i went and got it. I posted a link.

Pz may have meant well at one time(dover? Those were good times) but if mocking is on the table, then he is the subject. Hate isnt ok no matter who it is aimed at in my book. This is fundamentalism. Us and them. All the elements were laid out neetly by the psycho circus who happily obliged.

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carlsonjok



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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 29 2011,19:16   

Quote (Zarquon @ Nov. 29 2011,18:55)
You guys post reams and reams of homophobic bullshit e.g. "HOMO" and sexist crap and you are complaining about the tone on Pharyngula?. Get your own fucking house in order, then complain.

HA HA THIS IS YOU

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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 29 2011,19:47   

Quote (Zarquon @ Nov. 29 2011,18:55)
You guys post reams and reams of homophobic bullshit e.g. "HOMO" and sexist crap and you are complaining about the tone on Pharyngula?. Get your own fucking house in order, then complain.

In fairness, you may not be aware of the history of the HOMO insult that gets tossed around here, so let me explain it.

It got its start as part of Richardthughes' tardologues, the all-caps parodies of Davescot's bombastic commenting style and entirely overblown machismo.  For a time, the tardologue became the means by which the regular commenters would engage in good natured banter with each other.

Over time, however, the tardologue has evolved (for example, k.e. is still a savant level practitioner of the tardologue, though he has dispensed with the all-caps.) Further, some elements of the tardologue have seemed to permanently enter the local lexicon.  One such example is the reference to a certain Uncommon Descent contributor as a morphodyke, a term borrowed, directly and originally, from Davescot.  

The use of the term "homo," and various other such terms that implicate the sexual orientation of insult's recipient, follows in that tradition and is more properly viewed as a satire on the homophobia of retrograde knuckleheads like Davescot, rather than as an indication of the actual homophobia of the speaker.

EDIT: For clarity and punctumation.

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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 29 2011,20:06   

Quote (Zarquon @ Nov. 29 2011,19:55)
You guys post reams and reams of homophobic bullshit e.g. "HOMO" and sexist crap and you are complaining about the tone on Pharyngula?. Get your own fucking house in order, then complain.

You mean sexist like plastic toy bunnies sexist? Yeah....

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BWE



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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 29 2011,20:46   

Heh. I apparently won some friends and made a few people angry. Apparently mocking is acceptable unless its to do with the atheist 'movement'.

It was an act of conscience. Sorry.

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Tom Ames



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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 29 2011,23:49   

Quote (Zarquon @ Nov. 29 2011,16:55)
You guys post reams and reams of homophobic bullshit e.g. "HOMO" and sexist crap and you are complaining about the tone on Pharyngula?. Get your own fucking house in order, then complain.

You mean like referring to "knobgobblers" and posting photos of women in provocative poses?

A purity troll AND a hypocrite!

Edited by Tom Ames on Nov. 29 2011,21:55

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BWE



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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 30 2011,00:57   

Dick. Pussy. Ass. Pubic hair. That's whT ill name my next 4 kids. What do think?

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When wished on the morning star
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Look what it's done so far

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Schroedinger's Dog



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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 30 2011,02:00   

Quote (Tom Ames @ Nov. 30 2011,06:49)
Quote (Zarquon @ Nov. 29 2011,16:55)
You guys post reams and reams of homophobic bullshit e.g. "HOMO" and sexist crap and you are complaining about the tone on Pharyngula?. Get your own fucking house in order, then complain.

You mean like referring to "knobgobblers" and posting photos of women in provocative poses?

A purity troll AND a hypocrite!

Homerun!!! \o/

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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 30 2011,03:01   

Quote (BWE @ Nov. 29 2011,15:55)
It had to be done. I'm sorry to those who take offense.:
http://talkrational.org/showthr....1614346

I didn't read anyone calling you a creationist troll. I got that in the first or second response the last time I tried to have an intelligent discussion on Pharyngula.

P.S. HOMO.

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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 30 2011,03:53   

Quote (Schroedinger's Dog @ Nov. 30 2011,03:00)
Quote (Tom Ames @ Nov. 30 2011,06:49)
Quote (Zarquon @ Nov. 29 2011,16:55)
You guys post reams and reams of homophobic bullshit e.g. "HOMO" and sexist crap and you are complaining about the tone on Pharyngula?. Get your own fucking house in order, then complain.

You mean like referring to "knobgobblers" and posting photos of women in provocative poses?

A purity troll AND a hypocrite!

Homerun!!! \o/

No doubt.

That's gonna leave a mark.

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Schroedinger's Dog



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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 30 2011,03:58   

I think that's what's pissing me off the most: the pearl-clutching while adopting the same behaviors as are being clutched (is that even a correct sentence?).

But then there's the excellent "rub your nose in your own poo" part, and that's, well, priceless. PZ has so much of these moments I'm sure I could write a book (or short novella) about it.

"Science, it works, bitches"!

Anyone?

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Lou FCD



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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 30 2011,04:21   

I think there is an interesting conversation to be had here once we're all done bashing PZ (deserved or not). Someone give me a head's up if/when that happens?

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Zarquon



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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 30 2011,04:22   

http://talkrational.org/showthr....1614462  
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ETA: Although I think a comparison with Stormfront might be more apt.


Godwin!

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 30 2011,04:28   

Quote (Lou FCD @ Nov. 30 2011,11:21)
I think there is an interesting conversation to be had here once we're all done bashing PZ (deserved or not). Someone give me a head's up if/when that happens?

I'm not bashing him much [anymore]. A constructive discussion about tactics and fairness among atheists would be hugely great*.





*Redundancy, I haz it!

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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 30 2011,04:34   

Quote (Lou FCD @ Nov. 30 2011,11:06)
You mean sexist like plastic toy bunnies sexist? Yeah....


Plastic toy bunnies that wear pants and a skirt...

Plastic toy bunnies that speak in pink and blue word balloons...

Plastic toy bunnies where one (guess which?) is a mindless fanatic, and the other (guess which?) is the calm voice of reason...

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 30 2011,05:06   

Quote (Zarquon @ Nov. 30 2011,11:34)
Quote (Lou FCD @ Nov. 30 2011,11:06)
You mean sexist like plastic toy bunnies sexist? Yeah....


Plastic toy bunnies that wear pants and a skirt...

Plastic toy bunnies that speak in pink and blue word balloons...

Plastic toy bunnies where one (guess which?) is a mindless fanatic, and the other (guess which?) is the calm voice of reason...

LoL!

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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 30 2011,05:47   

Quote (BWE @ Nov. 30 2011,01:57)
Dick. Pussy. Ass. Pubic hair. That's whT ill name my next 4 kids. What do think?

Waitjustaminute. You've got to tell us if that is really your chin before we sign off on you having any more offspring.

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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 30 2011,05:58   

Quote (Zarquon @ Nov. 30 2011,05:34)
Quote (Lou FCD @ Nov. 30 2011,11:06)
You mean sexist like plastic toy bunnies sexist? Yeah....


Plastic toy bunnies that wear pants and a skirt...

Plastic toy bunnies that speak in pink and blue word balloons...

Plastic toy bunnies where one (guess which?) is a mindless fanatic, and the other (guess which?) is the calm voice of reason...

Plastic toy bunnies that, as far as I can tell, have not been genitally inspected.

...unless of course, you did the honors. Do you often inspect the genitals of plastic toys?

By the way, would it have been sexist if the roles had been reversed?


Also, given your expertise on the issue as noted above  
Quote (Tom Ames @ Nov. 30 2011,00:49)
 
Quote (Zarquon @ Nov. 29 2011,16:55)
You guys post reams and reams of homophobic bullshit e.g. "HOMO" and sexist crap and you are complaining about the tone on Pharyngula?. Get your own fucking house in order, then complain.

You mean like referring to "knobgobblers" and posting photos of women in provocative poses?

A purity troll AND a hypocrite!


can you tell me if this is sexist?



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carlsonjok



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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 30 2011,06:38   

I love me some Internet.  You can find just about anything there:



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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 30 2011,07:30   

Quote (Zarquon @ Nov. 29 2011,19:55)
You guys post reams and reams of homophobic bullshit e.g. "HOMO" and sexist crap and you are complaining about the tone on Pharyngula?. Get your own fucking house in order, then complain.

that's a feature not a bug



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carlsonjok



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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 30 2011,07:49   

Quote (Erasmus, FCD @ Nov. 30 2011,07:30)
Quote (Zarquon @ Nov. 29 2011,19:55)
You guys post reams and reams of homophobic bullshit e.g. "HOMO" and sexist crap and you are complaining about the tone on Pharyngula?. Get your own fucking house in order, then complain.

that's a feature not a bug


Yeah well, I'd expect that from a banjer playing, holler livin', inbred hillbilly like you.



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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 30 2011,08:00   

Quote (BWE @ Nov. 30 2011,00:57)
Dick. Pussy. Ass. Pubic hair. That's whT ill name my next 4 kids. What do think?

Nah...Pubic hair doesn't roll off the tongue really well (Hahahahaha...umm...err...sorry 'bout that...let's see, where was I?). I'd just go with Pube.

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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 30 2011,08:20   

Quote (Zarquon @ Nov. 30 2011,02:34)
Quote (Lou FCD @ Nov. 30 2011,11:06)
You mean sexist like plastic toy bunnies sexist? Yeah....


Plastic toy bunnies that wear pants and a skirt...

Plastic toy bunnies that speak in pink and blue word balloons...

Plastic toy bunnies where one (guess which?) is a mindless fanatic, and the other (guess which?) is the calm voice of reason...

Plastic boy bunnies that objectify plastic girl bunnies....

Oh, wait. Was "Danni" supposed to represent for you the voice of calm reason here? Or were you using her to "represent" something else?

Own house, and so forth.

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