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khan



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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 08 2009,16:12   

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In that thread,  both Clive, baby and Wee Billy Dembski point to C.S. Lewis' correspondence as evidence that Lewis was privately rejecting evolution in the 1950's while publicly embracing it.


In my 'net travels, I have observed that one sign of a crank is the belief that people (online, on TV,...) are communicating with said crank in code.

Creationists do this all the time, at UD and elsewhere.  "In their heart of hearts, scientists know goddidit, but won't admit it because of their career / fear of the International Scientist Conspiracy / Satan."  It's why they spend so much time looking for hidden pro-ID messages in the scientific literature.

A variant from usenet days: "People support me in email."

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"It's as if all those words, in their hurry to escape from the loony, have fallen over each other, forming scrambled heaps of meaninglessness." -damitall

That's so fucking stupid it merits a wing in the museum of stupid. -midwifetoad

  
deadman_932



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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 08 2009,16:24   

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In that thread,  both Clive, baby and Wee Billy Dembski point to C.S. Lewis' correspondence as evidence that Lewis was privately rejecting evolution in the 1950's while publicly embracing it.


In my 'net travels, I have observed that one sign of a crank is the belief that people (online, on TV,...) are communicating with said crank in code.

Creationists do this all the time, at UD and elsewhere.  "In their heart of hearts, scientists know goddidit, but won't admit it because of their career / fear of the International Scientist Conspiracy / Satan."  It's why they spend so much time looking for hidden pro-ID messages in the scientific literature.

A variant from usenet days: "People support me in email."

Onlookers!

Khan attacked me in email. With a baseball bat.

Oh, how the heathen Darwinian materialists despise the innocent and pure of heart. I am just like Jesus, who was also persecuted.

Buy my book. Visit my site. Don't risk eternal fire, my friends. Send your donations and love offerings to fend off this encroaching tide of hate and violence.

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Louis



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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 08 2009,16:42   

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I'm sure Clive would be very surprised to discover that I am actually Joseph.  Unfortunately I don't think his design detector is capable of anything more that "if it looks a bit like X then it must be X" so I guess my ubersocktard is safe for a while (unless he is watching? ... Clive?)

Just wait until he finds out that Louis is Denyse O'Leary.

I thought I was FTK. Look, if you're going to accuse me of being random internet people, get it straight will you?

Anyway, I am Dembski*. It's all been a big joke**. Ha ha***. Etc.

Louis

* Or not.

** Or not.

*** I kill me sometimes

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Quack



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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 08 2009,16:49   

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It would eradicate much of my cynicism regarding the human species.

Arthur Koestler didn't see much hope, I am afraid I don't either.

Oh I don't know. I'm an optimistic cynic. After all I could be wrong. In fact it's quite likely I am.

Mind you, if I'm right then it really is advisable to start drinking heavily.......soon.

Louis


What more to say then but SKÅL!

BTW, Sweden has a rich tradition of debauchery (hope that is an appropriate term), and libertinism made immortal by a character named Bellmann; his songs about careless life with lavish amounts of wine, broads, strumming the zithar and maybe other joyful things of which my limited command of the English language makes me recognize only as images in my poor bourgeois soul...
Guess this should be bumped to the BW.

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The fundamental choice to be made, given the available information, is not whether chance provides a better explanation than design, but whether natural laws provide a better explanation than a design. - Sean Devine.

  
afarensis



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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 08 2009,18:32   

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In that thread,  both Clive, baby and Wee Billy Dembski point to C.S. Lewis' correspondence as evidence that Lewis was privately rejecting evolution in the 1950's while publicly embracing it.


In my 'net travels, I have observed that one sign of a crank is the belief that people (online, on TV,...) are communicating with said crank in code.

Creationists do this all the time, at UD and elsewhere.  "In their heart of hearts, scientists know goddidit, but won't admit it because of their career / fear of the International Scientist Conspiracy / Satan."  It's why they spend so much time looking for hidden pro-ID messages in the scientific literature.

A variant from usenet days: "People support me in email."

Onlookers!

Khan attacked me in email. With a baseball bat.

Oh, how the heathen Darwinian materialists despise the innocent and pure of heart. I am just like Jesus, who was also persecuted.

Buy my book. Visit my site. Don't risk eternal fire, my friends. Send your donations and love offerings to fend off this encroaching tide of hate and violence.

Darn it, why do you people always break out the fun while I am at work and can't participate :angry:

Maybe I wanted to hit someone via email, with a bat (I mean a real bat, not the baseball variety).

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FTK: I Didn't answer your questions because it beats the hell out of me.

PaV: I suppose for me to be pried away from what I do to focus long and hard on that particular problem would take, quite honestly, hundreds of thousands of dollars to begin to pique my interest.

   
Zachriel



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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 08 2009,19:44   



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The struggle against ignorance is to the end of time. But it is said that if you die in tard, you will be reborn in Tardhalla.

   
Maya



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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 08 2009,20:16   

Quote (Zachriel @ Sep. 08 2009,19:44)

My Greek is a little rusty, but I think I got "F*** Clivebaby and the horse he rode in on."

I can haz humanateez duhploma now?

  
keiths



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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 08 2009,23:16   

D O'L:
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Someone from the BBC wants to interview me. I am not sure about that, because I am concerned that they are looking for a gap-tooth Canadian moron to spout Bible verses, rock the tent, and handle snakes.

Don't hesitate, Denyse.  You're perfect for the role.

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And the set of natural numbers is also the set that starts at 0 and goes to the largest number.  -- Joe G

Please stop putting words into my mouth that don’t belong there and thoughts into my mind that don’t belong there. -- KF

  
keiths



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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 08 2009,23:22   

Denyse:
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Tell me again that Darwinism isn’t a religion?

Seversky replies:
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Okay

Darwinism isn’t a religion.

But Paleyism is.

Except for Cornelius Hunter

For whom everything is.


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And the set of natural numbers is also the set that starts at 0 and goes to the largest number.  -- Joe G

Please stop putting words into my mouth that don’t belong there and thoughts into my mind that don’t belong there. -- KF

  
Amadan



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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 09 2009,10:32   

Interesting (but surely hopelessly biased) profile of Densye's best friend here.

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"People are always looking for natural selection to generate random mutations" - Densye  4-4-2011
JoeG BTW dumbass- some variations help ensure reproductive fitness so they cannot be random wrt it.

   
Quack



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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 09 2009,11:15   

Quote (Amadan @ Sep. 09 2009,10:32)
Interesting (but surely hopelessly biased) profile of Densye's best friend here.

Creationist martyrs of all countries, unite!

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The fundamental choice to be made, given the available information, is not whether chance provides a better explanation than design, but whether natural laws provide a better explanation than a design. - Sean Devine.

  
socle



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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 09 2009,11:17   

Dembski:
   
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In case you missed this blog (and now that The Brites are no longer in existence):


http://satirizingscientism.blogspot.com

Yet another outlet for IDCists to dissipate their energy (as opposed to doing science):  A blog "satirizing scientism" that's about as funny as syphilis.

  
Erasmus, FCD



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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 09 2009,11:27   

i have a blog satirizing satire.

it's pretty much just a mirror and a glass of some warm slightly flat spring water.

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You're obviously illiterate as hell. Peach, bro.-FtK

Finding something hard to believe based on the evidence, is science.-JoeG

the odds of getting some loathsome taint are low-- Gordon E Mullings Manjack Heights Montserrat

I work on molecular systems with pathway charts and such.-Giggles

  
Amadan



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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 09 2009,11:48   

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Dembski:
     
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In case you missed this blog (and now that The Brites are no longer in existence):


http://satirizingscientism.blogspot.com

Yet another outlet for IDCists to dissipate their energy (as opposed to doing science):  A blog "satirizing scientism" that's about as funny as syphilis.

Mickey Mouse hasn't evolved???

HA!

Also, they don't have their own opera, which means Dembski must have a small, bent penis.

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"People are always looking for natural selection to generate random mutations" - Densye  4-4-2011
JoeG BTW dumbass- some variations help ensure reproductive fitness so they cannot be random wrt it.

   
J-Dog



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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 09 2009,11:57   

Quote (Amadan @ Sep. 09 2009,11:48)
Also, they don't have their own opera, which means Dembski must have a small, bent penis.

I suspect that Denyse has the miniscule bent penis, and Dembski has a vagina.  

Not that that's wrong, and it's not something I would expect anyone to verify through empiracal observation and experimentation.*



* Even in full haz-mat mode...




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Come on Tough Guy, do the little dance of ID impotence you do so well. - Louis to Joe G 2/10

Gullibility is not a virtue - Quidam on Dembski's belief in the Bible Code Faith Healers & ID 7/08

UD is an Unnatural Douchemagnet. - richardthughes 7/11

  
Erasmus, FCD



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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 09 2009,12:09   

dembski is built like a female hyena

dennis is built like this guy

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You're obviously illiterate as hell. Peach, bro.-FtK

Finding something hard to believe based on the evidence, is science.-JoeG

the odds of getting some loathsome taint are low-- Gordon E Mullings Manjack Heights Montserrat

I work on molecular systems with pathway charts and such.-Giggles

  
Richardthughes



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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 09 2009,13:30   

Has anyone seed my turkle duff?

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"Richardthughes, you magnificent bastard, I stand in awe of you..." : Arden Chatfield
"You magnificent bastard! " : Louis
"ATBC poster child", "I have to agree with Rich.." : DaveTard
"I bow to your superior skills" : deadman_932
"...it was Richardthughes making me lie in bed.." : Kristine

  
deadman_932



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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 09 2009,14:06   

Quote (Amadan @ Sep. 09 2009,10:32)
Interesting (but surely hopelessly biased) profile of Densye's best friend here.

Hah, I didn't know he thought he was the Mahdi. Damn, every nut fundy thinks he's the messiah/elect/speshul to god in some way

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Zachriel



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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 09 2009,14:47   

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Quote (Zachriel @ Sep. 08 2009,19:44)

My Greek is a little rusty, but I think I got "F*** Clivebaby and the horse he rode in on."

I can haz humanateez duhploma now?

Close. For a clue, click the Greek.

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The struggle against ignorance is to the end of time. But it is said that if you die in tard, you will be reborn in Tardhalla.

   
deadman_932



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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 09 2009,16:06   

RBH put up a link (at PT) to this "Metropolis Sampler" critique of the recent Dembski-Marks sham scam "paper."

It concerns a priori bias in Dembski/Marks' bullsh*t representations. It's also full of math goodness!

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J-Dog



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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 09 2009,16:06   

Quote (Zachriel @ Sep. 09 2009,14:47)
I can haz humanateez duhploma now?[/quote]
Close. For a clue, click the Greek.

That was Great Alexander Zachriel.  I'm looking forward to seeing this on LOLcats in the future!

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Come on Tough Guy, do the little dance of ID impotence you do so well. - Louis to Joe G 2/10

Gullibility is not a virtue - Quidam on Dembski's belief in the Bible Code Faith Healers & ID 7/08

UD is an Unnatural Douchemagnet. - richardthughes 7/11

  
Quack



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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 09 2009,16:20   

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Yet another outlet for IDCists to dissipate their energy (as opposed to doing science):  A blog "satirizing scientism" that's about as funny as syphilis.

Pox on you, evoswine!

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The fundamental choice to be made, given the available information, is not whether chance provides a better explanation than design, but whether natural laws provide a better explanation than a design. - Sean Devine.

  
MichaelJ



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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 09 2009,21:26   

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Yet another outlet for IDCists to dissipate their energy (as opposed to doing science):  A blog "satirizing scientism" that's about as funny as syphilis.

Pox on you, evoswine!

So lame - they do humour worse than they do science

  
Bob O'H



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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 10 2009,01:21   

It's been a slow day at UD - they must have all stayed in to watch videos of Obama's recent speeches.  But I did find this:

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senseorsensibility.com

09/09/2009

8:03 pm

To be fair KibyNp, this is part of a series of posts by O’Leary, the earlier ones providing the context. I think we can take a Darwinist to be a neo-Darwinist.

Right.  So people who follow the science developed by the likes of Fisher and Dobzhansky.

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Why does it qualify as a religion? I think for the kind of reason that I have just pointed out. Neo-Darwinism incorporates metaphysical elements that are now doing much more than providing a framework for enquiry, but have been integrated into the belief systems of their adherents and are being used as personal frameworks for making sense of reality.

Dunno about you lot, but my personal framework for making sense of reality includes the theory of gravity.

I wonder, though, does anyone base their whole framework on Neo-Darwinist metaphysical elements?  And what are these metaphysical elements?  (Anyone?  Anyone?  Snowflake?)

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The problem with this is that the personal belief system is contingent and vulnerable to refutation. These are not good characteristics to have in a personal belief system, and why I would recommend a classical one every time (i.e., the usual suspects, or failing that a very open agnosticism).

Ah, blind faith.  Someone doesn't want to be told they're wrong.
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I am sure Denyse will provide a pithier and more accurate answer.

Pithier than GEM of Kon-tiki, certainly.

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ID theorists don’t postulate a designer for their arguments. - Crandaddy
There is no connection between a peppered moth, natural selection, and religion that I can see. - FtK

   
oldmanintheskydidntdoit



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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 10 2009,02:49   

Gil says
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Just put’em in a bag, shake’em up, and (wave the magic wand of “deep” time)complex information-processing machinery emerges.

Please help me! Why does anyone schooled and experienced in the hard sciences take this transparent idiocy seriously?


I don't know Gil. Why would anyone who has put the effort in believe such rampant idiocy? You make sure and have a think about that now OK?

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I also mentioned that He'd have to give me a thorough explanation as to *why* I must "eat human babies".
FTK

if there are even critical flaws in Gauger’s work, the evo mat narrative cannot stand
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oldmanintheskydidntdoit



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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 10 2009,02:52   

Here's one from Andrew Sibley, our UK Weather forecaster creationist friend
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At the end of the day all inductive arguments must begin in belief, whether it is old or new riddles of induction, which is why the American strict division of science and faith in education policy is a fallacy.

Whatever Andrew.Whatever.

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I also mentioned that He'd have to give me a thorough explanation as to *why* I must "eat human babies".
FTK

if there are even critical flaws in Gauger’s work, the evo mat narrative cannot stand
Gordon Mullings

  
deadman_932



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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 10 2009,02:53   

Quote (Erasmus, FCD @ Sep. 09 2009,11:27)
i have a blog satirizing satire.

it's pretty much just a mirror and a glass of some warm slightly flat spring water.

Turns out he's "Wascally Wabbit" whose blog Dembski had previously plugged a few months back. I'm pretty sure he's also a Baylor Director of Spanish and Portuguese div. named Mike Thomas, but that's just a deep, deep suspicion as of yet:
http://www.baylor.edu/spanish/index.php?id=12339
http://www.mikethomas.net/about_the_author
http://aharvestofmiracles.blogspot.com/

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oldmanintheskydidntdoit



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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 10 2009,02:56   

Mario A Lopez, if you don't know, is IDs con-man. He's the guy who goes round setting up pages on networking sites, or just plain websites, to give the impression there is a groundswell of popular support for ID.

He's also a denier of common descent, which is always handy to know.
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What this paper demonstrates is 1) the author presupposes ancestral relationships between humans and chimps

Yep, such relationships are based purely on conjecture. Tard

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I also mentioned that He'd have to give me a thorough explanation as to *why* I must "eat human babies".
FTK

if there are even critical flaws in Gauger’s work, the evo mat narrative cannot stand
Gordon Mullings

  
CeilingCat



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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 10 2009,06:31   

Is there anything in the world that Cornelius Hunter doesn't think is religion?  Gretta Garbo's aunt Bessie's knees?  Maybe a sharp stick in the eye?

Tard

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Like every other academic field, philosophy of religion has its share of hacks and mediocrities.   Edward Feser

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deadman_932



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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 10 2009,06:57   

Hmm..I don't want to give that satirizingscientism any site hits, but given "Wascally Wabbit's" response to me, I think my  informed guess as to his identity was correct.

The funny part is that he'll be deleting my posts there for calling him a pendejo, which he claims is profanity. Except it's not, in Mexican slang/idiom (which is what I learned growing up in New Mexico). Literally, it means "pubic hair" and figuratively, it refers to an ass, an idiot. A fool. Given the "humor" of the site, you'd think he'd appreciate the term. Oh, well.

Mike Thomas, Marks, Dembski...Baylor seems to have sprouted / shed a fair contingent of pendejos

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