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|Here we go 'round the mulberry bush,|
The mulberry bush, the mulberry bush.
Here we go 'round the mulberry bush,
So early in the morning.
I get it. No one can understand these issues unless he has first read the books you've read.
I cannot learn about fossils from Otto Schindewolf because he was not a Darwinist. The man Dr. Norman Newell once called the "world's greatest living paleontologist" is unfit to teach me anything about the fossil record because he did not toe the party line.
I cannot learn genetics from Richard Goldschmidt or William Bateson, nor can I learn about morphological biology from Leo Berg. In spite of their excellent credentials, I must learn genetics and morphology from someone steeped in the same orthodoxy as you. That is after all, the only way to get a complete understanding.
Of course, other than "Read a book", you have not contributed anything of substance to this discussion since your failed attempt to defend abiogenesis way back in the beginning.
You've got your Bathroom Wall back, why don't you go back there, enjoy a fart joke or two, and leave me alone.
Nope, you don't get it. Shall I call you the WAAAAAAAAAHmbulance? Perhaps some cheese to go with that whine? No? Thought not.
You can learn all you want from Schindewolf, or anyone you like, up to and including Paley, Aristotle, and the girls from Bananarama (all of whom have very different ideas about evolutionary biology). You'll find no complaint from me (in fact you'll find encouragement). I'll also encourage you to read MORE than these people's works. In fact I think I might have done so. One of the problems you have Denial is a common one: you project your own biases onto others. There is no orthodoxy for me, the fact that you misunderstand that is....well hilarious, but also telling.
Like I said regarding discussing abiogenesis, if I had the slightest notion that you were going to participate in a discussion in good faith I'd be all over it. Oh and BTW since I haven't tried to "defend" abiogenesis, how can I have failed? I simply haven't bothered because I consider you to be a dishonest creationist turd. Look at (for example) RFJE's (initial) claims: dealt with quickly and simply. I'd cheerfully do the same for you if you were for just one brief second intellectually honest.
My point with you is, was, and remains until proven otherwise that you are a) thoroughly confused, b) labouring under as series of religiously inspired misapprehensions, c) that you lack the BASIC knowledge to attempt what you are attempting, and d) at least currently incapable of forming an honest, basically logical, argument and dealing with such. Look how many electrons have been wasted (and no minor amount of vitriol) just getting you to admit you were wrong about Albatrossity's example only for you to, again, move the goalposts. Why the fuck should I waste my time (technical posts take longer than anything else) educating you when all this is for you is a matter of gainsaying "your enemies" and reinforcing your delusions. Claims to the contrary Denial are not supported by YOUR behaviour HERE.
Ask a question relevant to my area of expertise, make a claim relevant to my area of research and I'll answer it to the best of my ability. As you're talking about biology etc, I'm perfectly happy to leave it to expert biologists to correct you. I'll join in if and when I deem it appropriate. The reason I've said "read a book" and "read these papers" is because you are asking questions that are answered in those books and those papers. Do you really want me to reproduce for you page by page these thousands of documents? Is that a reasonable request do you think?
The problem is Denial, you are an intellectually dishonest little shit and it's plain for all to see. I'll engage you as an intellectually capable adult when you start behaving like one. How and when others waste their time with you is their decision, but I'm going to keep mocking you until you deliver just one tiny shred of intellectual honesty. Now go away and do the basics Denial, it'll help stop you looking like an utter shoulder-be-chipped moron.
HE MIGHT BE ONE BUT YOU HAVE NO EXCUSE
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