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Freddie



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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 23 2012,16:47   

Quote (JohnW @ Sep. 21 2012,14:29)
 
Quote (Freddie @ Sep. 21 2012,12:04)
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Looks like the motherlode of all batshit's copy-and-paste jobs.  Disappointingly, it's just regular text, and not a scan of something written in green crayon.

Batshit publishes his research ...





Edited by Lou FCD on Sep. 23 2012,19:10

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Joe: Most criticisims of ID stem from ignorance and jealousy.
Joe: As for the authors of the books in the Bible, well the OT was authored by Moses and the NT was authored by various people.
Byers: The eskimo would not need hairy hair growth as hair, I say, is for keeping people dry. Not warm.

  
sparc



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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 23 2012,22:42   

Quote (Zachriel @ Sep. 23 2012,09:48)
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[URL=http://www.uncommondescent.com/design-inference/it-seems-that-tsz-objector-to-design-af-insists-on-the-long-since-corrected-canard-that-de

sign-is-a-default-inference/#comment-434245]kairosfocus[/URL]: UD PRO-DARWINISM ESSAY CHALLENGE: Compose your summary case for darwinism (or any preferred variant that has at least some significant support in the professional literature, such as punctuated equlibria etc) in a fashion that is accessible to the non-technical reader — based on empirical evidence that warrants the inference to body plan level macroevolution — in up to say 6,000 words {a chapter in a serious paper is often about that long}. Outgoing links are welcome so long as they do not become the main point. That is, there must be a coherent essay, with

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(i)an intro,
(ii) a thesis,
(iii) a structure of exposition,
(iv) presentation of empirical warrant that meets the inference to best current empirically grounded explanation test for scientific reconstructions of the remote past,
(v) a discussion and from that
(vi) a warranted conclusion.

Your primary objective should be to show in this way, per IBCE, why there is no need to infer to design from the root of the Darwinian tree of life on up (BTW, it will help to find a way to resolve the various divergent trees), on grounds that the Darwinist explanation, as extended to include OOL, is adequate to explain origin and diversification of the tree of life. A second objective of like level is to show how your thesis is further supported by such evidence as suffices to warrant the onward claim that is is credibly the true or approximately true explanation of origin and body-plan level diversification of life; on blind watchmaker style chance variation plus differential reproductive success, starting with some plausible pre-life circumstance. It would be helpful if in that essay you would outline why alternatives such as design, are inferior on the evidence we face. {as an initial spark for thinking, contrast my own survey of origins science here on (note the onward resources page), the definition of design theory in the UD resources tab top of this and every UD page, the Weak Argument correctives in the same tab, the general resources that pop up on clicking the tab itself, and the discussion of design theory in the NWE article here. You may also want to refer to the site of the IDEA Center, and the Discovery Institute CSC site as well as Mike Gene's Telic Thoughts. Notice IDEA's essay on the case for design here.}

Could start with Darwin's Origin of Species. It's dated, but still a powerful argument. What Darwin considered an abstract is still too long at 190,000 words (6th edition).

By limitting the number of outgoing links will allow KF to send BA77's work back unread without pissing off the only one taking him seriously.
On a second note: Why all these efforts? At his own Kairosfocus blog Gordon E. Mullings has tons of threads about teaching and education nobody ever reads. Now he is assigning homework via UD. Is he trying to qualify for some education degree from the University of Montserrat. I guess rather a faith based US diploma mill. Maybe we will have Gordon E. Mullings PhD aka Dr, KairosFocus one day.

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"[...] the type of information we find in living systems is beyond the creative means of purely material processes [...] Who or what is such an ultimate source of information? [...] from a theistic perspective, such an information source would presumably have to be God."

- William Dembski -

   
Erasmus, FCD



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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 23 2012,23:15   

like anyone in the world gives a shit what gordon mullings thinks about the evidence for any goddam thing

eta and, the child pornography collector links to a shitpile (as in literally, piles of shit) of outgoing links.  

gordon, your single value to society is the role you perform as court jester, every single fucking day.  the momeny you cease to be this jester character you will have outlived your usefulness to the world and I would have to recommend that you find a painless way to relieve the earth of the burden which the curse of your mothers loins foisted upon the unwitting rock

Edited by Erasmus, FCD on Sep. 24 2012,00:18

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You're obviously illiterate as hell. Peach, bro.-FtK

Finding something hard to believe based on the evidence, is science.-JoeG

the odds of getting some loathsome taint are low-- Gordon E Mullings Manjack Heights Montserrat

I work on molecular systems with pathway charts and such.-Giggles

  
Dr.GH



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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 23 2012,23:59   

Quote (Freddie @ Sep. 23 2012,14:47)
Batshit publishes his research ...




Radically accurate. What a mind fuck.

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"Science is the horse that pulls the cart of philosophy."

L. Susskind, 2004 "SMOLIN VS. SUSSKIND: THE ANTHROPIC PRINCIPLE"

   
BillB



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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 24 2012,04:19   

Quote (Patrick @ Sep. 22 2012,23:47)
             
Quote (Learned Hand @ Sep. 22 2012,17:29)
               
Quote (onlooker @ Sep. 22 2012,10:14)
                 
Quote (Lou FCD @ Sep. 22 2012,05:43)
It's getting a little slow around here. We need a new meltdown.

I'm [URL=http://www.uncommondescent.com/design-inference/it-seems-that-tsz-objector-to-design-af-insists-on-the-long-since-corrected-canard-that-de
















sign-is-a-default-inference/#comment-434129]working on it[/URL]:


Your comment has been censored on grounds that it accused the censor of censorship.

You made me look.  Thank you.  I wouldn't want to have missed this:
               
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O makes a false accusation of censorship — probably being amplified all across the slander laced fever swamps as we speak — when O knows full well he was asked to apologise and cease from derail attempts or leave. He chose to leave then tried to return and suggest that he could — with an unresolved matter of uncivil behaviour on his part on the table — hold a separate conversation ignoring the thread owner. Sorry, it does not work that way. Comment removed for cause. KF

"I'm removing what Onlooker posted because he accused me of censorship.  In the process I'll slander him while complaining about slander on other sites."

How does his head not explode from the weapons grade hypocrisy?

ETA:  Bolding in the original.  Like multiple exclamation points, a sure sign of a disturbed mind.

I realised that any code for my ID simulation would need some way of handling errors, that would seem to be KF's department so ...

Code Sample
double offended = TRUE;

very very long string YouAreInError {
   try verbiage {
       throw tantrum(BYDAND);
       delete comments;
   }
   catch (evomat conspirators) {
       do {
           cout << "oil soaked burning stawmen of red herring. Because " << bigNumber << ENDl;
       } while (offended);
       apply(mrLeathers);
       latch = -latch;
   }
   return jesus;
}

void apply(const* self falgellation){
   ofstream myfile;
   myfile.open("scantilyCladLadies.jpg");
   fap( random(10*10^e ) );
   myfile.close();
   very very long string *myKeyboard = new keyboard;
   delete internetHistory;
}

  
k.e..



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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 24 2012,05:35   

Quote (JohnW @ Sep. 23 2012,19:22)
Quote (Zachriel @ Sep. 23 2012,08:13)
Meanwhile, bornagain77 teaches Joe about relativity.

http://www.uncommondescent.com/intelli....-434174

In related news, my cat is teaching next door's golden retriever about Post-Impressionism.

I frequently discuss that great art movement the no-Pointellists with my postman.



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"Abbie Smith (ERV) who's got to be the most obnoxious arrogant snot I've ever seen except for when I look in a mirror" DAVE TARD
"ID is deader than Lenny Flanks granmaws dildo batteries" Erasmus

  
olegt



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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 24 2012,12:20   

gpuccio earns 10 points on the Crackpot Scale:
 
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To Joe Felsenstein (at TSZ):

One more thought: in the end, I believe that Dembski is right, although I aould never be able to give a mathemathical demonstration that he is tight (and I am not sure he has completely succeeded in that). But the general concepts are there.

Crackpot Index, #15:
 
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10 points for each statement along the lines of "I'm not good at math, but my theory is conceptually right, so all I need is for someone to express it in terms of equations".


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onlooker



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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 24 2012,12:40   

Upright BiPed identifies the miscreants:
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the rancor being passed back and forth between UD and TSZ does not have its genesis at UD or among UD commentors.

Yeah, Joe, Mung, and kairosfocus are the epitome of civility.

  
Amadan



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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 24 2012,13:23   

Quote (onlooker @ Sep. 24 2012,18:40)
Upright BiPed [URL=http://www.uncommondescent.com/design-inference/it-seems-that-tsz-objector-to-design-af-insists-on-the-long-since-corrected-canard-that-de

sign-is-a-default-inference/#comment-434386]identifies the miscreants[/URL]:
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the rancor being passed back and forth between UD and TSZ does not have its genesis at UD or among UD commentors.

Yeah, Joe, Mung, and kairosfocus are the epitome of civility.

Fetchez la vache!

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"People are always looking for natural selection to generate random mutations" - Densye  4-4-2011
JoeG BTW dumbass- some variations help ensure reproductive fitness so they cannot be random wrt it.

   
Freddie



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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 24 2012,13:29   

Quote (olegt @ Sep. 24 2012,12:20)
gpuccio earns 10 points on the Crackpot Scale:
 
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To Joe Felsenstein (at TSZ):

One more thought: in the end, I believe that Dembski is right, although I aould never be able to give a mathemathical demonstration that he is tight (and I am not sure he has completely succeeded in that). But the general concepts are there.

Crackpot Index, #15:
 
Quote

10 points for each statement along the lines of "I'm not good at math, but my theory is conceptually right, so all I need is for someone to express it in terms of equations".

In theory we should be able to rate each longer thread at UD on the Crackpot Scale once it has reached, say, 50 posts to provide a common basis for comparison.

It would mean a little work and studious adherence to all 37 potential point-earners, but I think we could generate a top 20 list that would give new devotees of Tard a starting point for where to go to get the good stuff first.

SideWiki may have been a useful tool here :-(

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Joe: Most criticisims of ID stem from ignorance and jealousy.
Joe: As for the authors of the books in the Bible, well the OT was authored by Moses and the NT was authored by various people.
Byers: The eskimo would not need hairy hair growth as hair, I say, is for keeping people dry. Not warm.

  
Erasmus, FCD



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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 24 2012,13:31   

Quote (Freddie @ Sep. 24 2012,14:29)
Quote (olegt @ Sep. 24 2012,12:20)
gpuccio earns 10 points on the Crackpot Scale:
   
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To Joe Felsenstein (at TSZ):

One more thought: in the end, I believe that Dembski is right, although I aould never be able to give a mathemathical demonstration that he is tight (and I am not sure he has completely succeeded in that). But the general concepts are there.

Crackpot Index, #15:
   
Quote

10 points for each statement along the lines of "I'm not good at math, but my theory is conceptually right, so all I need is for someone to express it in terms of equations".

In theory we should be able to rate each longer thread at UD on the Crackpot Scale once it has reached, say, 50 posts to provide a common basis for comparison.

It would mean a little work and studious adherence to all 37 potential point-earners, but I think we could generate a top 20 list that would give new devotees of Tard a starting point for where to go to get the good stuff first.

SideWiki may have been a useful tool here :-(

i think I know a tardwarrior who could automate that

:O

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You're obviously illiterate as hell. Peach, bro.-FtK

Finding something hard to believe based on the evidence, is science.-JoeG

the odds of getting some loathsome taint are low-- Gordon E Mullings Manjack Heights Montserrat

I work on molecular systems with pathway charts and such.-Giggles

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 24 2012,17:01   

will have some time next week...

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I also mentioned that He'd have to give me a thorough explanation as to *why* I must "eat human babies".
FTK

if there are even critical flaws in Gauger’s work, the evo mat narrative cannot stand
Gordon Mullings

  
Erasmus, FCD



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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 24 2012,17:14   



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You're obviously illiterate as hell. Peach, bro.-FtK

Finding something hard to believe based on the evidence, is science.-JoeG

the odds of getting some loathsome taint are low-- Gordon E Mullings Manjack Heights Montserrat

I work on molecular systems with pathway charts and such.-Giggles

  
onlooker



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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 25 2012,08:16   

Seen on another blog this morning:
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"Those who know that they are profound strive for clarity. Those who would like to seem profound to the crowd strive for obscurity."

-- Friedrich Nietzsche

It reminds me of something, right on the tip of my brain.  Ah, well, I'm sure I'll remember.

  
k.e..



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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 25 2012,09:27   

Quote (onlooker @ Sep. 25 2012,16:16)
Seen on another blog this morning:
 
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"Those who know that they are profound strive for clarity. Those who would like to seem profound to the crowd strive for obscurity."

-- Friedrich Nietzsche

It reminds me of something, right on the tip of my brain.  Ah, well, I'm sure I'll remember.

Nietzsche was talking about the likes of Mr Obscurantism 2006 ....Dr Dr Billy boy Dembski.

He has passed into *obscurity* since, expect another book where he has a love child with his maid....or not.

Billy doesn't have the balls.

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"I get a strong breeze from my monitor every time k.e. puts on his clown DaveTard suit" dogdidit
"Abbie Smith (ERV) who's got to be the most obnoxious arrogant snot I've ever seen except for when I look in a mirror" DAVE TARD
"ID is deader than Lenny Flanks granmaws dildo batteries" Erasmus

  
REC



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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 25 2012,10:09   

Some more of the "remarkably good" treatment Liddle receives from UD:

KF
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Re Dr EL et al at TSZ: Why do ID/creationists use dice, coins, and alphabets – objects which don’t interact among themselves with these kinds of energies – to calculate probabilities that “prove” that proteins and complex molecules have such a low probability of forming that intelligence is required to assemble them?

TSZ’s denizens know or should know that this is a loaded, tendentious, atmosphere-poisoning smear by invidious association that builds on an earlier mind closing smear job. Guilt by invidious association is a fallacy.


And Joe at his place:
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Well it seems that the cry-baby evotards have been very busy trying to stick up for one of their own- Elizabeth Liddle. I just read a notice from blogger pertaining to my post in which I called Lizzie a liar, an equivocator and a dried-up old hag. True, I can only provide evidence for the first two- that she is a liar and an equivocator. I just inferred the other from what she writes. The post has been taken down and I will just rewrite it and post it. I told the admin that if required I could easily support my claims in any Court- all but the dried up old hag but that may become evident at the trial.


Classy, especially given who they're talking about, and that she hasn't been active in the discussion lately.

  
Erasmus, FCD



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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 25 2012,10:45   

nothing vile that you could say about these people could be very far from the truth

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You're obviously illiterate as hell. Peach, bro.-FtK

Finding something hard to believe based on the evidence, is science.-JoeG

the odds of getting some loathsome taint are low-- Gordon E Mullings Manjack Heights Montserrat

I work on molecular systems with pathway charts and such.-Giggles

  
Soapy Sam



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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 25 2012,11:37   

Quote (onlooker @ Sep. 24 2012,12:40)
Upright BiPed [URL=http://www.uncommondescent.com/design-inference/it-seems-that-tsz-objector-to-design-af-insists-on-the-long-since-corrected-canard-that-de

sign-is-a-default-inference/#comment-434386]identifies the miscreants[/URL]:
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the rancor being passed back and forth between UD and TSZ does not have its genesis at UD or among UD commentors.

Yeah, Joe, Mung, and kairosfocus are the epitome of civility.

And UB himself forgets what a snooty, arrogant shit he can be.

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Evolutionists trust entropy for creation of life but are like men who horse a crocodile to get across a river - niwrad.

The organism could already metabolize citrus. Joe G

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 25 2012,11:39   

Quote (olegt @ Sep. 24 2012,12:20)
gpuccio earns 10 points on the Crackpot Scale:
 
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To Joe Felsenstein (at TSZ):

One more thought: in the end, I believe that Dembski is right, although I aould never be able to give a mathemathical demonstration that he is tight (and I am not sure he has completely succeeded in that). But the general concepts are there.

Crackpot Index, #15:
 
Quote

10 points for each statement along the lines of "I'm not good at math, but my theory is conceptually right, so all I need is for someone to express it in terms of equations".

I'm on the lookout for Thomas Kuhn. When he is invoked, it's Game Over!

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Evolutionists trust entropy for creation of life but are like men who horse a crocodile to get across a river - niwrad.

The organism could already metabolize citrus. Joe G

  
Soapy Sam



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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 25 2012,11:53   

Quote (REC @ Sep. 25 2012,10:09)
Some more of the "remarkably good" treatment Liddle receives from UD:

[...]

And Joe at his place:
         
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Well it seems that the cry-baby evotards have been very busy trying to stick up for one of their own- Elizabeth Liddle. I just read a notice from blogger pertaining to my post in which I called Lizzie a liar, an equivocator and a dried-up old hag. True, I can only provide evidence for the first two- that she is a liar and an equivocator. I just inferred the other from what she writes. The post has been taken down and I will just rewrite it and post it. I told the admin that if required I could easily support my claims in any Court- all but the dried up old hag but that may become evident at the trial.


Classy, especially given who they're talking about, and that she hasn't been active in the discussion lately.

Perhaps it was the FUCK YOU Joe forgot to mention that Blogger objected to. Fortunately Google has preserved the text, though the page has gone:

       
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Intelligent Reasoning: Elizabeth Liddle is a Liar and an Equivocator
intelligentreasoning.blogspot.com/.../elizabeth-liddle-is-liar-and-equi...
27 Jul 2012 – FUCK YOU LIZ you dried up old hag. Evos don't answer questions. Evos just attack whoever disagrees with them. posted by Joe G @ 9:23 AM ...

Of course Joe. Evos just attack! Evos are cry-babies! You are pathetic. And the longer you stay at UD, the more hilarious the mass civility-whinges become.

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Evolutionists trust entropy for creation of life but are like men who horse a crocodile to get across a river - niwrad.

The organism could already metabolize citrus. Joe G

  
Patrick



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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 25 2012,13:16   

Quote (Soapy Sam @ Sep. 25 2012,12:53)
Quote (REC @ Sep. 25 2012,10:09)
Some more of the "remarkably good" treatment Liddle receives from UD:

[...]

And Joe at his place:
         
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Well it seems that the cry-baby evotards have been very busy trying to stick up for one of their own- Elizabeth Liddle. I just read a notice from blogger pertaining to my post in which I called Lizzie a liar, an equivocator and a dried-up old hag. True, I can only provide evidence for the first two- that she is a liar and an equivocator. I just inferred the other from what she writes. The post has been taken down and I will just rewrite it and post it. I told the admin that if required I could easily support my claims in any Court- all but the dried up old hag but that may become evident at the trial.


Classy, especially given who they're talking about, and that she hasn't been active in the discussion lately.

Perhaps it was the FUCK YOU Joe forgot to mention that Blogger objected to. Fortunately Google has preserved the text, though the page has gone:

         
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Intelligent Reasoning: Elizabeth Liddle is a Liar and an Equivocator
intelligentreasoning.blogspot.com/.../elizabeth-liddle-is-liar-and-equi...
27 Jul 2012 – FUCK YOU LIZ you dried up old hag. Evos don't answer questions. Evos just attack whoever disagrees with them. posted by Joe G @ 9:23 AM ...

Of course Joe. Evos just attack! Evos are cry-babies! You are pathetic. And the longer you stay at UD, the more hilarious the mass civility-whinges become.

Joe is a learning opportunity.  I know, intellectually, that he is no doubt a physical coward who would never dare make statements like that to a person's face.  I also know from his online history that he is none too mentally gifted.  Both of these characteristics warrant compassion.

Nonetheless, I will have to meditate repeatedly before I can let go of the desire to see a video of someone swinging through his hometown and defending Lizzie's honor.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 25 2012,14:03   

Quote (Patrick @ Sep. 25 2012,14:16)
Quote (Soapy Sam @ Sep. 25 2012,12:53)
Quote (REC @ Sep. 25 2012,10:09)
Some more of the "remarkably good" treatment Liddle receives from UD:

[...]

And Joe at his place:
           
Quote
Well it seems that the cry-baby evotards have been very busy trying to stick up for one of their own- Elizabeth Liddle. I just read a notice from blogger pertaining to my post in which I called Lizzie a liar, an equivocator and a dried-up old hag. True, I can only provide evidence for the first two- that she is a liar and an equivocator. I just inferred the other from what she writes. The post has been taken down and I will just rewrite it and post it. I told the admin that if required I could easily support my claims in any Court- all but the dried up old hag but that may become evident at the trial.


Classy, especially given who they're talking about, and that she hasn't been active in the discussion lately.

Perhaps it was the FUCK YOU Joe forgot to mention that Blogger objected to. Fortunately Google has preserved the text, though the page has gone:

         
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Intelligent Reasoning: Elizabeth Liddle is a Liar and an Equivocator
intelligentreasoning.blogspot.com/.../elizabeth-liddle-is-liar-and-equi...
27 Jul 2012 – FUCK YOU LIZ you dried up old hag. Evos don't answer questions. Evos just attack whoever disagrees with them. posted by Joe G @ 9:23 AM ...

Of course Joe. Evos just attack! Evos are cry-babies! You are pathetic. And the longer you stay at UD, the more hilarious the mass civility-whinges become.

Joe is a learning opportunity.  I know, intellectually, that he is no doubt a physical coward who would never dare make statements like that to a person's face.  I also know from his online history that he is none too mentally gifted.  Both of these characteristics warrant compassion.

Nonetheless, I will have to meditate repeatedly before I can let go of the desire to see a video of someone swinging through his hometown and defending Lizzie's honor.

oh yeah he would definitely meat them in that parking lot where he lives

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You're obviously illiterate as hell. Peach, bro.-FtK

Finding something hard to believe based on the evidence, is science.-JoeG

the odds of getting some loathsome taint are low-- Gordon E Mullings Manjack Heights Montserrat

I work on molecular systems with pathway charts and such.-Giggles

  
Patrick



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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 25 2012,15:37   

Quote (Erasmus, FCD @ Sep. 25 2012,15:03)
oh yeah he would definitely meat them in that parking lot where he lives

Joe actually took his Internet tough guy routine that far?  I'm off to Google....

  
Reciprocating Bill



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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 25 2012,15:50   

Quote (onlooker @ Sep. 24 2012,13:40)
Upright BiPed identifies the miscreants:
 
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the rancor being passed back and forth between UD and TSZ does not have its genesis at UD or among UD commentors.

Yeah, Joe, Mung, and kairosfocus are the epitome of civility.

UB himself, just few days ago:
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CR, to be completely frank, I don’t know if I have ever talked to someone as profoundly deluded as you.

You think you don’t take positions, but you do. You think you don’t justify your beliefs, but you do. And the most amazing part is that you seem utterly adamant about the entire preposterous lot. You hail yourself as an “exponent of critical rationalism” yet you’ve failed to demonstrate either of those words. Your pathology was exposed when you first came here to explain your schtick. You kept building and building on this immense story of all the things you don’t do, only to finish by giving yourself a pass to do them all anyway. I am lucky enough to know people who have truly uncanny inner lives, who are very much what you are attempting to be. You should find one yourself and study them closely over a number of years. You will see they demonstrate none of the neediness you have displayed here. You simply do not have the skillset. Perhaps you will someday, but you will not get there by the disconnectedness you’ve shown here.


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Myth: Something that never was true, and always will be.

"The truth will set you free. But not until it is finished with you."
- David Foster Wallace

"Here’s a clue. Snarky banalities are not a substitute for saying something intelligent. Write that down."
- Barry Arrington

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 25 2012,16:23   

Quote (Patrick @ Sep. 25 2012,16:37)
Quote (Erasmus @ FCD,Sep. 25 2012,15:03)
oh yeah he would definitely meat them in that parking lot where he lives

Joe actually took his Internet tough guy routine that far?  I'm off to Google....

D00D

read the thread LMAOOOOO

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You're obviously illiterate as hell. Peach, bro.-FtK

Finding something hard to believe based on the evidence, is science.-JoeG

the odds of getting some loathsome taint are low-- Gordon E Mullings Manjack Heights Montserrat

I work on molecular systems with pathway charts and such.-Giggles

  
Soapy Sam



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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 25 2012,19:15   

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Some more of the "remarkably good" treatment Liddle receives from UD:

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And Joe at his place:
                   
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Well it seems that the cry-baby evotards have been very busy trying to stick up for one of their own- Elizabeth Liddle. I just read a notice from blogger pertaining to my post in which I called Lizzie a liar, an equivocator and a dried-up old hag. True, I can only provide evidence for the first two- that she is a liar and an equivocator. I just inferred the other from what she writes. The post has been taken down and I will just rewrite it and post it. I told the admin that if required I could easily support my claims in any Court- all but the dried up old hag but that may become evident at the trial.


Classy, especially given who they're talking about, and that she hasn't been active in the discussion lately.

Perhaps it was the FUCK YOU Joe forgot to mention that Blogger objected to. Fortunately Google has preserved the text, though the page has gone:

                 
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Intelligent Reasoning: Elizabeth Liddle is a Liar and an Equivocator
intelligentreasoning.blogspot.com/.../elizabeth-liddle-is-liar-and-equi...
27 Jul 2012 – FUCK YOU LIZ you dried up old hag. Evos don't answer questions. Evos just attack whoever disagrees with them. posted by Joe G @ 9:23 AM ...

Of course Joe. Evos just attack! Evos are cry-babies! You are pathetic. And the longer you stay at UD, the more hilarious the mass civility-whinges become.

Joe is a learning opportunity.  I know, intellectually, that he is no doubt a physical coward who would never dare make statements like that to a person's face.  I also know from his online history that he is none too mentally gifted.  Both of these characteristics warrant compassion.

Nonetheless, I will have to meditate repeatedly before I can let go of the desire to see a video of someone swinging through his hometown and defending Lizzie's honor.

I think in the matter of Liz Joe demonstrated that his shitness of character runs truly deep. She allowed him to post and start threads, spent hours shovelling his more aggressive shit into Guano rather than simply ban, treated him like an adult who might understand rational argument, would even have allowed him to stay had he shown some regret over the 'vagina' link ... so when people like KF whine about TSZ-ers calling a spade a spade and not mincing words over UD-ites' crap grasp of science (cue a million words whining about the civility, oh the civility, rather than addressing the science), I watch Joe hopping about the tent, and laugh my ass off.

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Evolutionists trust entropy for creation of life but are like men who horse a crocodile to get across a river - niwrad.

The organism could already metabolize citrus. Joe G

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 26 2012,01:58   

KF insults gpuccio:



Edited by keiths on Sep. 25 2012,23:59

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And the set of natural numbers is also the set that starts at 0 and goes to the largest number.  -- Joe G

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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 26 2012,04:39   

He is a doctor however.

Fuck.

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I also mentioned that He'd have to give me a thorough explanation as to *why* I must "eat human babies".
FTK

if there are even critical flaws in Gauger’s work, the evo mat narrative cannot stand
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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 26 2012,09:30   

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vjtorley: Are crows capable of reasoning about hidden causal agents? Five reasons for skepticism

First. Crows can't reason because they "are unable to explain the basis of their judgments".

Second. Crows can't reason because they can't "justify their claims in the court of public opinion, and if they cannot do so, they are rightly ignored."

Third. Crows can't reason about causation because causation "is quite a sophisticated concept".

Fourth. Crows can't reason because vjtorley is confused about causation.

Fifth. One cannot help wondering what would happen if vjtorley actually took the time and effort to observe crows?

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Erasmus, FCD



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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 26 2012,09:36   

hauté attardé

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v....=relmfu

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You're obviously illiterate as hell. Peach, bro.-FtK

Finding something hard to believe based on the evidence, is science.-JoeG

the odds of getting some loathsome taint are low-- Gordon E Mullings Manjack Heights Montserrat

I work on molecular systems with pathway charts and such.-Giggles

  
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