Joined: Jan. 2006
|In my opinion, there's not much to distinguish a third-trimester fetus from a newborn. Any differences are quantitative rather than qualitative.|
OK, two brief (for me, anyway) comments on this:
1) When we decide a developing human should be granted legal personhood is essentially arbitrary, just like when we declare adulthood or seniorhood. These are fairly important distinctions without any qualitative differences.
2) However, the degree to which it is not arbitrary have to do with practical considerations: unambiguous milestones, enforceability, political concerns and forces.
Personally, I'd be willing to vote for some point during pregnancy after which (1) the fetus bears enough resemblance to a newborn to have enough emotional appeal for enough people; and (2) after which the pregnant woman has had easily sufficient opportunity to change her mind and have an abortion if she wishes. BOTH these should be true, I think - to change her mind AND to have the opportunity to act accordingly.
But I can recognize that birth is a clear, obvious milestone, easy to define and enforce, which also dovetails with other legal rights (and is where we start counting toward all those subsequent magic times).
|Everyone who advocates that gay marriage should be legalized is assuming that this will end the matter. But what if gays decide that marriage isn't enough (there's still all this institutionalized homophobia floating around, don't you know), so a good dose of affirmative action, set-asides, and hate-crime legislation are in order?|
I genuinely don't understand what you are worried about here. Are you suggesting that these programs would be demanded EVEN IF there is no clear inequality in de facto effect?
I shouldn't need to point out that the 1954 Brown decision, and the 1964 Civil Rights Act, failed to provide much effective equality. Blacks STILL could not get jobs, get into colleges, get a decent public school education, and in a thousand ways weren't on a level playing field. You seem to be saying, hey, if we let them marry, they will act uppity and demand the same opportunities you have. Terrible thing.
|Furthermore, many gays have embraced a decadent lifestyle...much of the social fabric has already been unraveled|
What bothers me is, you might not be kidding, you might actually *believe* this. You've already laid claim to beliefs even more peculiar. But "different from how I wish to live" is a bit more neutral than "decadent" or "unraveled". You are applying pejoratives to anything you find unfamiliar or different. Granted, I'm only 60, not yet old enough to have the perspective to see how the world is going to he11 in a handbasket like you and other old people have bemoaned for millennia. Too bad you feel the need to maintain the status quo at *someone else's* expense. But entirely typical.