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OgreMkV



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(Permalink) Posted: June 05 2012,11:10   

I don't refute JoeG for the same reason I don't refute CSI.

Both are fictional charactures of science and have nothing to do with reality.

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(Permalink) Posted: June 05 2012,12:20   

Quote (Richardthughes @ June 05 2012,10:51)
http://intelligentreasoning.blogspot.com/2012.......ts.html

 
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Jerry the Liar Coyne and his Mental Midgets- all Drooling Spewage and No Evidence
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Yup, go figure. Jerry the liar Coyne opens a thread for me and yet he doesn't let me post and no one there offers anything that refutes what I said. Sure I can read many ignorant-filled comments and plenty of lies, but not one piece of evidence.

Is Jerry the liar Coyne an ignorant fucking coward too?

It seems that Jerry is still playing with that little "toy" between his legs...posted by Joe G @ 12:48 PM



I think getting banned from TSZ and now Coyne's blog stung Joe a lot worse that he lets on. †He's been whining about them both nonstop for weeks now.

Poor baby.

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(Permalink) Posted: June 05 2012,12:32   

He's his own worse enemy:

So Ronrey > visit other blogs > make claims > get corrected > get belligerent > get moderated > try for 'death by cop' > post porn > get banned > whine about in on 'untelligent reasoning' > so Ronrey!

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(Permalink) Posted: June 05 2012,15:00   

jerry-has-a-blog-about-me

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Hi David-

The 2nd law appears to be sort of vague. But accumulations of genetic accidents leading to the construction of novel protein machinery violates everything we know.


Everything? Joe's Law wins, then. I hadn't realised it was that easy.

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(Permalink) Posted: June 05 2012,15:23   

Quote (Soapy Sam @ June 05 2012,15:00)
jerry-has-a-blog-about-me

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Hi David-

The 2nd law appears to be sort of vague. But accumulations of genetic accidents leading to the construction of novel protein machinery violates everything we know.


Everything? Joe's Law wins, then. I hadn't realised it was that easy.

To be honest, everything he knows < everything we know.

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(Permalink) Posted: June 05 2012,16:09   

Second law, vague? What's vague about any process that uses energy will waste some of it? :p

  
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(Permalink) Posted: June 05 2012,16:26   

Quote (Henry J @ June 05 2012,16:09)
Second law, vague? What's vague about any process that uses energy will waste some of it? :p

What's vague about a mathematical equation.

That's the thing that none of these IDiots get.  The 2nd Law is a mathematical function on known properties of objects (i.e. heat).  It's very bloody specific!

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(Permalink) Posted: June 05 2012,17:35   

Quote (OgreMkV @ June 05 2012,16:26)
Quote (Henry J @ June 05 2012,16:09)
Second law, vague? What's vague about any process that uses energy will waste some of it? :p

What's vague about a mathematical equation.

That's the thing that none of these IDiots get. †The 2nd Law is a mathematical function on known properties of objects (i.e. heat). †It's very bloody specific!

Considering that some of them can't add up the years of the earth and get more than 6,000, apparently basic math is beyond them.  Maths iz hard.  Makes brain hurt. :D

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(Permalink) Posted: June 06 2012,13:08   

[quote=Occam's Aftershave,June 05 2012,12:20]
Quote (Richardthughes @ June 05 2012,10:51)
http://intelligentreasoning.blogspot.com/2012.......ts.html

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Jerry the Liar Coyne and his Mental Midgets- all Drooling Spewage and No Evidence
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Yup, go figure. Jerry the liar Coyne opens a thread for me and yet he doesn't let me post and no one there offers anything that refutes what I said. Sure I can read many ignorant-filled comments and plenty of lies, but not one piece of evidence.

Is Jerry the liar Coyne an ignorant fucking coward too?

It seems that Jerry is still playing with that little "toy" between his legs...posted by Joe G @ 12:48 PM

OK, Joe has earned NCSE another 20 bucks.

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(Permalink) Posted: June 06 2012,14:22   

I'm so ignorant of all things Gallien, can someone tell me why he has two "Intelligent Reasoning" blogs, one .com and the other .co.uk?

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Kattarina98



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(Permalink) Posted: June 06 2012,14:44   

Quote (Kattarina98 @ April 12 2012,15:52)
We should point Joe to this site, the owner and he would get on like a house on fire.

BTW, Joe has created a fall-back blog ... in case his current one gets closed for pr0n?


Do you mean this one?

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(Permalink) Posted: June 06 2012,15:16   

Quote (dvunkannon @ June 06 2012,14:22)
I'm so ignorant of all things Gallien, can someone tell me why he has two "Intelligent Reasoning" blogs, one .com and the other .co.uk?

I don't think it's him, I think it's auto-magic google-fu.

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(Permalink) Posted: June 06 2012,16:08   

Quote (Kattarina98 @ June 06 2012,14:44)
Quote (Kattarina98 @ April 12 2012,15:52)
We should point Joe to this site, the owner and he would get on like a house on fire.

BTW, Joe has created a fall-back blog ... in case his current one gets closed for pr0n?


Do you mean this one?

He fixes all things "personal"?  I shudder to think...

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(Permalink) Posted: June 06 2012,17:50   

Fix personal things?

Omigod, the possibilities!

"Dear Dr. Joe,

I married Wayne in a rush at 17 and Wayne Jr was born a few months later. Since then we have been blessed with the other two Waynes and Wayenetta and things are getting a bit crowded. Just the other day Wayne had to physically reprimand me when I burnt his toast before I headed out to my three cleaning jobs. Am I entitled to complain? What should I do?


"No. You got no evidence, moron.

And turn it down to 5."

Edited by Amadan on June 06 2012,23:50

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(Permalink) Posted: June 06 2012,21:16   

Quote (Richardthughes @ June 05 2012,08:51)
http://intelligentreasoning.blogspot.com/2012.......ts.html

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Jerry the Liar Coyne and his Mental Midgets- all Drooling Spewage and No Evidence
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Yup, go figure. Jerry the liar Coyne opens a thread for me and yet he doesn't let me post and no one there offers anything that refutes what I said. Sure I can read many ignorant-filled comments and plenty of lies, but not one piece of evidence.

Is Jerry the liar Coyne an ignorant fucking coward too?

It seems that Jerry is still playing with that little "toy" between his legs...posted by Joe G @ 12:48 PM



joey bitches about not being allowed to post there yet joey doesn't allow a lot of comments on his site. I have submitted several comments at joey's site recently, and many in the past, that he never posted. I can't help but wonder how many other comments he won't post.

Even though Coyne's thread is more about joey than "for" joey, I think that Coyne should allow joey to post in it, as long as he doesn't go on too radical a rampage. If nothing else it would be fun to see joey add more foolishness to his already infamous reputation.

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(Permalink) Posted: June 06 2012,22:14   

Going back through the comments on Coyne's site, I liked
This one

"Wow! Can a whole blog be a troll?" (by mikespeir).  That's it, the whole comment.  Says it all, though.

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(Permalink) Posted: June 07 2012,08:16   

Quote (Badger3k @ June 06 2012,20:14)
Going back through the comments on Coyne's site, I liked
This one

"Wow! Can a whole blog be a troll?" (by mikespeir). †That's it, the whole comment. †Says it all, though.

I got a kick out of that comment too.

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(Permalink) Posted: June 10 2012,02:04   

http://www.blogger.com/comment....6767388

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Q- In what way is natural selection deterministic?

A- Whatever survives to reproduce determines what the next generation will be

Q- What survives to reproduce?

A- Whatever is good enough and/ or lucky enough to do so

Q- What about the fittest?

A- The fittest, wrt biology, are the individuals who leave behind the most offspring, you know those surviving reproducers

Q- So where does determinism come in?

A- Whatever surivives to reproduce is determined by a number of factors

Q- That's it?

A- Apparently

Q- And this is what gave rise to the diversity of life?

A- Yup, it's settled science

Q- What is "settled science"?

A- It's when "mainstream" scientists don't know what the fuck is going on and they are pretty sure no one ever will, so they make something up

posted by Joe G at 9:30 AM on Jun 9, 2012


He's bolded determines a lot in his musings. So it's determined by luck, amongst other things. But its not stochastic, it's deterministic, because, you know, its determined

IDIOT.

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(Permalink) Posted: June 12 2012,06:28   

Joe has a new post in which he tries to argue that natural selection is not deterministic but stochastic. His argument?
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But anyway- all of the variables of natural selection are either entirely stochastic (variation) or have a stochastic element. Therefor, by definition, natural selection is stochastic. Or at the very least natural selection cannot be deterministic.

Teh stupid. It hurts.

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(Permalink) Posted: June 12 2012,08:55   

I'd agree that RM&NS is stochastic, more so in RM than NS.

But I suspect Coyne is using 'deterministic' like this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki....rminism

"...Determinism is often taken to mean simply causal determinism: an idea known in physics as cause-and-effect."

And we do understand the mechanisms (and no Joe, "Design is not a mechanism".

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(Permalink) Posted: June 14 2012,11:33   

What has UD come to when JOE is the voice of reason?

On Barry's Christians do not lie thread:

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Joe June 14, 2012 at 6:58 am
If you knew that $10 million was being offered to the (any) witness to testify against you, then that is all you and your lawyer need to know. Any honest judge or jury would see that the ďtestimonyĒ was driven by $$$.

And if it is a good defense lawyer then she/ he should be able to pick apart any testimony that was not true.


Kudos Joe

  
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(Permalink) Posted: June 18 2012,09:02   

Hey Joe... is this you?

Joe's Shitty Ideas

From the about page
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I know this guy named Joe. He has a lot of shitty ideas.  He likes to tell me about them.

The ideas are horrible, and while they are hilarious in their own right, what really puts the icing on the fucking cake is the fact that Joe does not think his ideas are shitty. In fact, he truly thinks these ideas will better the world and make him millions. Heís talked about quitting his job, investing all his moneyĖbasically risking it allĖfor a shitty idea. It actually happens Ö a lot.


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(Permalink) Posted: June 18 2012,17:19   

Jerad finally gets round to telling Joe what everybody who talks to Joe eventually tells Joe:
 
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ID says: look around, in our experience things that are designed have an intelligent designer behind them. Look at the lifeforms and the genomes. They LOOK designed. What accounts for design IN OUR EXPERIENCE, intelligence. BUT the inference is based on inanimate objects AND thereís no proof there was a designer around AND our experience is limited. I think ID SHOULD BE LOOKING for that extra evidence. I think that would help the cause immensely. I canít understand why money isnít being poured into that research. Maybe it is and I just donít know about it. Please tell me if Iím wrong about that.


Lol.

I wonder how Joe will take it? I know one thing for sure, his rolls of fat will be shaking with fear or rage. One or the other, †one or the other. Or both. Probably bring him right back to his childhood, the sad sad little man.

Hey, Joe, you know the internet will never get tired of laughing at you? What a legacy! Decades of IDiocy, all laid out for all to see.

I used to wonder what would keep them laughing in the generation arks that will eventually colonise the galaxy, over those long light years.

Keep it up Joe, keep it up!

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I also mentioned that He'd have to give me a thorough explanation as to *why* I must "eat human babies".
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(Permalink) Posted: June 19 2012,08:28   

No comments (apart from the bolding in the final two sentences). †Just †.... enjoy the random and heartfelt musings of UD contributor Robert Byers, YEC:
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This yEC sees music as not as complicated as presented.
It seems clear to me music is just human thoughts presented in a more primitive way relative to language.

Singing is just lingering or emphasizing a thought. We do this all the time when we stretch our words like telling someone to HURRRRRRYYYYY UPPPPPPP.
we always are singing or rather singer is just more control over our words stretching.
Its just pressing a thought.
this is why its received and understood by everyone.
Its from and too the heart. so it must be emphasized.
iím sure of this.

Music , without words, and so less complex thoughts, seems to be simply putting sounds from instruments to mimic the tones(sound) of voice we add to all we say all the time.
So there is a angry, sarcastic, gentle, exasperated, impatient, patient, kindly, and so on and on Tones of voice.
In fact we understand tones of voice and conclude whats being said almost as much as words.
A sarcastic sentence would be understood differently if just read on a page.
A writer would have to add the sentence was said sarcastically.

Then these tones(sound) are universal in all languages.
So this is why music, no words, crosses all languages and the winners are famous everywhere.
iím not as sure but pretty sure sounds from instruments just mimic tones we use and so thoughts are accurately communicated by music.
Music moves quick in its thoughts but not as quick as in language.

Music is after all just a expression of human thoughts.
Thoughts to reach our hearts or get deep into us.
Thoughts get into us if the presenter has these thoughts deep in them or faking it.

I see this as the great boundaries of it and then the rotation and rhythm and repetition just is added .

Music is not a different species from ordinary human thoughts.
just a less complex but more emphasizing of thoughts.

by the way the bible says musical instruments were created instantly.
Not music but the instruments.


ETA: Oops wrong thread - have PM'd to have it moved to UD topic

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Joe: As for the authors of the books in the Bible, well the OT was authored by Moses and the NT was authored by various people.
Byers: The eskimo would not need hairy hair growth as hair, I say, is for keeping people dry. Not warm.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: June 26 2012,04:12   


Joe claims this is not him.

So no problem to post it over and over I guess.

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I also mentioned that He'd have to give me a thorough explanation as to *why* I must "eat human babies".
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(Permalink) Posted: June 26 2012,07:38   

And a permanent record of this, in this thread, won't hurt either:



It's a previous authors page from wasdarwinright.net. The authors page has been changed and now doesn't show joe as an author.

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(Permalink) Posted: June 26 2012,09:39   

It seems that "Joe" has been at this longer then I imagined.

Here are some posts from "Ark Guy", a very very YEC creationist active in 2003-4. Anybody see any similarities to caek boy's "style" of writing?

 
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I still have not seen any real proof that the earth looks old. This is an un-proven statement that the evos keep repeating always failing to prove their point.

I had said CERTAIN aspects of the creation had apparent history.
Such as the apparent age of Adam.
Not all of creation had an apparent history.

http://www.christianforums.com/t85460-....1578261
 
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In the bible God said he did it.
In the science books it says God didn't.
Is this really too much of a concept for you guys to grasp?

http://www.christianforums.com/t77909-....1433986
 
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I don't really care what Darwin thinks.

I care what evolution says, and how they say it. Currently evolution says there is no need for a God and this view is shoved down our throats.

Let me ask you this, do you believe in Intelligent design ? Behe style? or are you in the camp of the other 99% of evolutionist who argue against Behe claiming God had no part in evolution?

http://www.christianforums.com/t77909-....1433603
 
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What part is anti-God?

Well the part that says God what not required...duh.

Or can you show me a public school text book that says God was behind the formation of the universe, formation of the planet, abiogenesis and the director behind the making of man from primitive life.

Now if you can't, then hush up.

It is a known fact that evolution is anti-God and shoved down our throats.
 
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Exactly...and the bible tells us in the accounts presented in Genesis and in the ten commandments that it took six literal days...or can you show me otherwise with scripture references
http://www.christianforums.com/t76757/#post1405137
 
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Funny how the Theo-Evos on this forum never argue for intelligent design...instead they PUSH evolution by random mutation that is selected by nature.

Now if evolutions is just plain pure and simple natural chance...then why God?

Besides if God used evolution, then why not just say so in the creation story? If God used evolution then why did he say six days? Why did he say Adam was created from the dust? Why did he say Eve was made form his side?

Why not say just man was created from pre-existing animals? I mean, if God used evolution.

http://www.christianforums.com/t76757.....1404992
There are a total of 867 posts from Aug 2003 to Jan 2004. The funny thing is that even the "turn the other cheek" gang get pissed off with him, and it seems his YEC leanings are out in the open.
 
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KINDS, not species were on the ark.
I wanted to correct a Theo-Evo strawman.

The YEC's do not claim that 2 of every species of animals were on board the ark.
I always hear this claim from the anti-ark crowd...how could two of every species fit on the ark. I just wish they would have done their homwork prior to posting such strawman statements.

Actually Noah had brought KINDS of animals onto the ark.
In a sense, but not exactly, it would be like Noah bringing on board Genera, or in other words, two species of all the seperate species that belonged to and were to represent that particular genera, or KIND.

The following is a list from Noahs Ark A feasibilty Study
Number of animals genus (Male & Female) present from each order-class on the ark.

http://www.christianforums.com/t74165.....1352653
 
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Nope...The differance is between micro-evolution and macro-evolution.
Micro-evolution requires no mutations. The changes is just a variation with in already established genes.

Macro-evolution is the molecules to fish to lizard to ape to man theory held to by the Theo-evo sect and not the YEC's.

 
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There were about 8,000 kind of animals on the ark.

Fish were not included.

From these 8,000 kinds of animals left off of the ark speciation occured and formed todays current species of animals.


and on and on and on.

Joe, you YEC you.

LOL @ JOE.

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(Permalink) Posted: June 26 2012,10:13   

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Besides if God used evolution, then why not just say so in the creation story? If God used evolution then why did he say six days? Why did he say Adam was created from the dust? Why did he say Eve was made form his side?



Joe should read his bible. Genesis isn't written in the first person. God didn't say it. The clowns who wrote down the campfire stories that became Genesis said it.

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(Permalink) Posted: June 26 2012,10:48   

Quote (oldmanintheskydidntdoit @ June 26 2012,07:39)
It seems that "Joe" has been at this longer then I imagined.

Here are some posts from "Ark Guy", a very very YEC creationist active in 2003-4. Anybody see any similarities to caek boy's "style" of writing?

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I still have not seen any real proof that the earth looks old. This is an un-proven statement that the evos keep repeating always failing to prove their point.

I had said CERTAIN aspects of the creation had apparent history.
Such as the apparent age of Adam.
Not all of creation had an apparent history.

http://www.christianforums.com/t85460-....1578261
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In the bible God said he did it.
In the science books it says God didn't.
Is this really too much of a concept for you guys to grasp?

http://www.christianforums.com/t77909-....1433986
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I don't really care what Darwin thinks.

I care what evolution says, and how they say it. Currently evolution says there is no need for a God and this view is shoved down our throats.

Let me ask you this, do you believe in Intelligent design ? Behe style? or are you in the camp of the other 99% of evolutionist who argue against Behe claiming God had no part in evolution?

http://www.christianforums.com/t77909-....1433603
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What part is anti-God?

Well the part that says God what not required...duh.

Or can you show me a public school text book that says God was behind the formation of the universe, formation of the planet, abiogenesis and the director behind the making of man from primitive life.

Now if you can't, then hush up.

It is a known fact that evolution is anti-God and shoved down our throats.
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Exactly...and the bible tells us in the accounts presented in Genesis and in the ten commandments that it took six literal days...or can you show me otherwise with scripture references
http://www.christianforums.com/t76757/#post1405137
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Funny how the Theo-Evos on this forum never argue for intelligent design...instead they PUSH evolution by random mutation that is selected by nature.

Now if evolutions is just plain pure and simple natural chance...then why God?

Besides if God used evolution, then why not just say so in the creation story? If God used evolution then why did he say six days? Why did he say Adam was created from the dust? Why did he say Eve was made form his side?

Why not say just man was created from pre-existing animals? I mean, if God used evolution.

http://www.christianforums.com/t76757.....1404992
There are a total of 867 posts from Aug 2003 to Jan 2004. The funny thing is that even the "turn the other cheek" gang get pissed off with him, and it seems his YEC leanings are out in the open.
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KINDS, not species were on the ark.
I wanted to correct a Theo-Evo strawman.

The YEC's do not claim that 2 of every species of animals were on board the ark.
I always hear this claim from the anti-ark crowd...how could two of every species fit on the ark. I just wish they would have done their homwork prior to posting such strawman statements.

Actually Noah had brought KINDS of animals onto the ark.
In a sense, but not exactly, it would be like Noah bringing on board Genera, or in other words, two species of all the seperate species that belonged to and were to represent that particular genera, or KIND.

The following is a list from Noahs Ark A feasibilty Study
Number of animals genus (Male & Female) present from each order-class on the ark.

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Nope...The differance is between micro-evolution and macro-evolution.
Micro-evolution requires no mutations. The changes is just a variation with in already established genes.

Macro-evolution is the molecules to fish to lizard to ape to man theory held to by the Theo-evo sect and not the YEC's.

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There were about 8,000 kind of animals on the ark.

Fish were not included.

From these 8,000 kinds of animals left off of the ark speciation occured and formed todays current species of animals.


and on and on and on.

Joe, you YEC you.

LOL @ JOE.

That sure does appear to be joe, and I've seen him push the ark feasibility study bullshit elsewhere.

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Hmm, I have my doubts it's Joe.

No "there isn't any evidence", no "nature operating freely".

Maybe he added those mighty rhetorical weapons to his arsenal later on, but still.

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