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clamboy



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(Permalink) Posted: May 29 2012,21:56   

Quote (Febble @ May 29 2012,11:53)
I made a transcript here:

http://theskepticalzone.com/wp....t....t-14178

I'm not sure why. †I guess I was fascinated. †I think it has its own internal logic actually. †It just isn't premised on anything that is actually true.

Thank you for the transcript, Dr. Liddle.

Did anyone else read that with Ms. O'Leary's voice in your head sounding like an unpleasant combination of Roseanne, Judy Tenuta, and Fran Drescher?

  
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(Permalink) Posted: May 30 2012,00:44   

Quote (dvunkannon @ May 29 2012,16:09)
DeNews quotes Sanford, and decides that is enough. My response here:
http://dvunkannon.blogspot.com/2012.......te.html

Did Sanford change the cover of his book? †I remember it as having lots of really cool flying saucers.

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Bob O'H



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(Permalink) Posted: May 30 2012,03:45   

Quote (CeilingCat @ May 30 2012,00:44)
Quote (dvunkannon @ May 29 2012,16:09)
DeNews quotes Sanford, and decides that is enough. My response here:
http://dvunkannon.blogspot.com/2012.......te.html

Did Sanford change the cover of his book? †I remember it as having lots of really cool flying saucers.

Yes, it did - I have a copy with that cover. I'm not surprised they changed it, though.

BTW, dwarfing genes pre-date mutagenesis. They've been traced back to Korea in the third century AD.

mlo, which confers resistance to powdery mildew in barley, was first discovered from mutagenesis, although the first commercial variety was bred from wild African barley.

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oldmanintheskydidntdoit



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(Permalink) Posted: May 30 2012,04:52   

Animals without wings have not evolved wings in the last 150 years. Therefore "Darwinism" is disproven.

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5 Ė> I know, this seems a strange way to look, and cuts across what you always heard. Yup, exactly. Just what is the observational warrant for the claim that CV + NS Ė> New body plans (think, avian wings and flow-through lungs as an example)? ANS, after 150 yrs: NIL.


Or Gordon Mullings is an IDiot. One or the other.

buh-duh.

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I also mentioned that He'd have to give me a thorough explanation as to *why* I must "eat human babies".
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(Permalink) Posted: May 30 2012,05:33   

Quote (Kattarina98 @ May 29 2012,06:09)
Neil Rickert over at TSZ made me watch Denyse O'Leary: Catholics & Evolution - after the first minutes I had to give up; she is just too incoherent. The video has a bit more than 400 views, a couple of nasty comments and mostly "dislikes". Looks like not even her readers went to the trouble to watch it.

I watched and listened beginning to end - morbid fascination, I guess.
It was both horrible and sad. Why the organisers put her up in the first place can only be guessed at - why they then published the video can never be guessed at, unless it was to make other speakers look better. Surely they can't think it does ID any good to have that poor woman drivelling away on public view.

  
CeilingCat



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(Permalink) Posted: May 30 2012,06:17   

Quote (Kattarina98 @ May 29 2012,06:09)
Neil Rickert over at TSZ made me watch Denyse O'Leary: Catholics & Evolution - after the first minutes I had to give up; she is just too incoherent. The video has a bit more than 400 views, a couple of nasty comments and mostly "dislikes". Looks like not even her readers went to the trouble to watch it.

Looking at her face, all I could think of was, "When she finally farts, it's going to clear the room."

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oldmanintheskydidntdoit



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(Permalink) Posted: May 30 2012,08:10   

Thomas Cudworth:  
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ID people have very clear answers to the questions Crude was posing to Venema and Falk. Those ID people who accept evolution have no problem in saying that the process was either end-driven from the start (programmed, front-loaded, etc.) or involved a series of interventions to compensate for the non-teleology of stochastic processes such as random mutations.


Lol, have cake and eat it much Thomas? Perhaps you could think of a way to test your either/or scenario. If it *must* be one or the other seems ID could make progress on this.

Saying is easy, showing not so much...

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I also mentioned that He'd have to give me a thorough explanation as to *why* I must "eat human babies".
FTK

if there are even critical flaws in Gaugerís work, the evo mat narrative cannot stand
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(Permalink) Posted: May 30 2012,11:06   

Quote (Kattarina98 @ May 29 2012,07:09)
Neil Rickert over at TSZ made me watch Denyse O'Leary: Catholics & Evolution - after the first minutes I had to give up; she is just too incoherent. The video has a bit more than 400 views, a couple of nasty comments and mostly "dislikes". Looks like not even her readers went to the trouble to watch it.

I got as far as "I'm a journalist."

Clearly delusional.

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(Permalink) Posted: May 30 2012,11:37   

Quote (damitall @ May 30 2012,05:33)
Quote (Kattarina98 @ May 29 2012,06:09)
Neil Rickert over at TSZ made me watch Denyse O'Leary: Catholics & Evolution - after the first minutes I had to give up; she is just too incoherent. The video has a bit more than 400 views, a couple of nasty comments and mostly "dislikes". Looks like not even her readers went to the trouble to watch it.

I watched and listened beginning to end - morbid fascination, I guess.
It was both horrible and sad. Why the organisers put her up in the first place can only be guessed at - why they then published the video can never be guessed at, unless it was to make other speakers look better. Surely they can't think it does ID any good to have that poor woman drivelling away on public view.

A fifth columnist?

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(Permalink) Posted: May 30 2012,12:17   

Quote (Quack @ May 30 2012,11:37)
Quote (damitall @ May 30 2012,05:33)
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Quote (Kattarina98 @ May 29 2012,06:09)
Neil Rickert over at TSZ made me watch Denyse O'Leary: Catholics & Evolution - after the first minutes I had to give up; she is just too incoherent. The video has a bit more than 400 views, a couple of nasty comments and mostly "dislikes". Looks like not even her readers went to the trouble to watch it.

I watched and listened beginning to end - morbid fascination, I guess.
It was both horrible and sad. Why the organisers put her up in the first place can only be guessed at - why they then published the video can never be guessed at, unless it was to make other speakers look better. Surely they can't think it does ID any good to have that poor woman drivelling away on public view.

A fifth columnist?

So "news" is a sock-puppet? Eclipsing even Janiebelle?

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(Permalink) Posted: May 30 2012,16:14   

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So "news" is a sock-puppet? Eclipsing even Janiebelle?


Not in DaveScot's Dreams... :)

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(Permalink) Posted: May 30 2012,16:16   

Quote (damitall @ May 30 2012,05:33)
Quote (Kattarina98 @ May 29 2012,06:09)
Neil Rickert over at TSZ made me watch Denyse O'Leary: Catholics & Evolution - after the first minutes I had to give up; she is just too incoherent. The video has a bit more than 400 views, a couple of nasty comments and mostly "dislikes". Looks like not even her readers went to the trouble to watch it.

I watched and listened beginning to end - morbid fascination, I guess.
It was both horrible and sad. Why the organisers put her up in the first place can only be guessed at - why they then published the video can never be guessed at, unless it was to make other speakers look better. Surely they can't think it does ID any good to have that poor woman drivelling away on public view.

And the way she snorts at the end of one of her many run-on sentences. I was about ready to pull out my Elvis channel changer.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: May 30 2012,19:08   

Heh, News has news (filed under News). Headline: † †
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ID-friendly neurosurgeon Michael Egnor now has a blog

Neil Rickert has an update:
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He started that blog almost 1 year ago.


Yes, UD links.

edit: typo

Edited by Ptaylor on May 31 2012,12:15

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(Permalink) Posted: June 01 2012,06:53   

I'm sure none of you would want to miss this:
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Luskin and Arrington Discuss ID

Date: †Monday, June 4

Time: †4:00 to 6:00 Mountain

Go here http://www.947krks.com/....rks....rks.com

Then click on ďListen LiveĒ


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(Permalink) Posted: June 01 2012,13:40   

Quote (JLT @ June 01 2012,06:53)
I'm sure none of you would want to miss this:
 
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Luskin and Arrington Discuss ID

Date: †Monday, June 4

Time: †4:00 to 6:00 Mountain

Go here http://www.947krks.com/....rks....rks.com

Then click on ďListen LiveĒ

Denver's Christian Station.

All Science So Far!

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(Permalink) Posted: June 01 2012,15:06   

Quote (JLT @ June 01 2012,06:53)
I'm sure none of you would want to miss this:
 
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Luskin and Arrington Discuss ID

Date: †Monday, June 4

Time: †4:00 to 6:00 Mountain

Go here http://www.947krks.com/....rks....rks.com

Then click on ďListen LiveĒ

Liveblog here, maybe?

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"You magnificent bastard! " : Louis
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(Permalink) Posted: June 01 2012,17:03   

KF can't stand mildmannered Jerad who manages to have friendly conversations with Eugene, Collin, and Eric Anderson. Time to show them how to treat evilutionists. †
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... and I must confess it is annoying to be forever strawmannised.

Uh-oh, Satan's tail spotted: †
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And, please note the unacceptable rhetorical pattern, again. You have been listening to the talking points of a side that is committed to a scorched earth defence of its a priori materialism. Which is inescapably self refuting and amoral to begin with.

Closing with a reminder who Jerad is dealing with: †
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Right now I have to attend to a declaration to the UN decolonisation commission; of all things.

Writing crank letters to the UN again ...

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(Permalink) Posted: June 01 2012,17:07   

Quote (Richardthughes @ June 01 2012,15:06)
Quote (JLT @ June 01 2012,06:53)
I'm sure none of you would want to miss this:
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Luskin and Arrington Discuss ID

Date: †Monday, June 4

Time: †4:00 to 6:00 Mountain

Go here http://www.947krks.com/....rks....rks.com

Then click on ďListen LiveĒ

Liveblog here, maybe?

I find an advert for "floodsmart" on Christian radio particularly amusing..

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"You magnificent bastard! " : Louis
"ATBC poster child", "I have to agree with Rich.." : DaveTard
"I bow to your superior skills" : deadman_932
"...it was Richardthughes making me lie in bed.." : Kristine

  
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(Permalink) Posted: June 01 2012,17:16   

Quote (Kattarina98 @ June 01 2012,17:03)
KF can't stand mildmannered Jerad who manages to have friendly conversations with Eugene, Collin, and Eric Anderson. Time to show them how to treat evilutionists. † †  
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... and I must confess it is annoying to be forever strawmannised.

Uh-oh, Satan's tail spotted: † †  
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And, please note the unacceptable rhetorical pattern, again. You have been listening to the talking points of a side that is committed to a scorched earth defence of its a priori materialism. Which is inescapably self refuting and amoral to begin with.

Closing with a reminder who Jerad is dealing with: † †  
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Right now I have to attend to a declaration to the UN decolonisation commission; of all things.

Writing crank letters to the UN again ...

And then after some back and forth friendly banter, he lays down the KF hammer:

 
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F/N: The number of Planck-time events for the 10^57 atoms of our solar system to date is about 10^102. The number of configs for 500 bits [3*10^150] gives a threshold that is 10^48 beyond that. All of that is discussed in the immediate context. In short the threshold metric that is created works off quantum of specific info beyond a threshold set by available number of possible tosses of the dice so to speak. If you are sampling at most 10^102 tosses in a space that is 10^48 beyond that you have no right to expect to hit on definable special zones that are isolated by chance: one straw-sizes sample from a hay bale 3 1/2 light days across. For the very same reason why relatively small but sufficient samples of a population give us a credibly good glimpse of its general properties. Or, to go to Fisherís testing, a random sample within a given scope of trials, will come reliably enough from the bulk not the far skirts, so if you are seeing far skirt results the best explanation is intelligently directed or biased samples.


Mmmmmm, now that's some good eats, a veritable feast of fresh and satisfying GEM!

  
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(Permalink) Posted: June 01 2012,17:27   

And in case anybody missed it, the winning entry of UD's "Describe the Cell" contest, by niwrad:

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A Ďcellí is a bio-cybernetic chemical automaton able to self-replicate, self-organize, and perform metabolic functions by means of nano-level molecular machines controlled by internal digital software stored in information rich polymers.


My own entry didn't make the cut:

"A cell is a whiz-bang, super-duper, computational thingamajig, with tons of specified complexity, surrounded by loads of informational stuff, packed with technical jargon up the yin-yang, and overflowing with sophistimicated do-dads, plus some racing stripes and an aerofoil, that only Teh Designer could have possibly poofed into existence. †Did I mention that it's really complex? †It is ... REALLY complex."

I think I would have won if I hadn't mentioned the designer.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: June 01 2012,18:13   

Quote (NormOlsen @ June 01 2012,17:27)
And in case anybody missed it, the winning entry of UD's "Describe the Cell" contest, by niwrad:

 
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A Ďcellí is a bio-cybernetic chemical automaton able to self-replicate, self-organize, and perform metabolic functions by means of nano-level molecular machines controlled by internal digital software stored in information rich polymers.


My own entry didn't make the cut:

"A cell is a whiz-bang, super-duper, computational thingamajig, with tons of specified complexity, surrounded by loads of informational stuff, packed with technical jargon up the yin-yang, and overflowing with sophistimicated do-dads, plus some racing stripes and an aerofoil, that only Teh Designer could have possibly poofed into existence. †Did I mention that it's really complex? †It is ... REALLY complex."

I think I would have won if I hadn't mentioned the designer.

Careful there Normy... If you're not careful, Behe's publisher and all the Good Christian Church Basements / ID Labs will be looking to sign you up! :)

Personally, i think your cell beats the hell out of Behe's.

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(Permalink) Posted: June 01 2012,18:50   

Quote (NormOlsen @ June 01 2012,17:27)
And in case anybody missed it, the winning entry of UD's "Describe the Cell" contest, by niwrad:

†  
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A Ďcellí is a bio-cybernetic chemical automaton able to self-replicate, self-organize, and perform metabolic functions by means of nano-level molecular machines controlled by internal digital software stored in information rich polymers.


My own entry didn't make the cut:

"A cell is a whiz-bang, super-duper, computational thingamajig, with tons of specified complexity, surrounded by loads of informational stuff, packed with technical jargon up the yin-yang, and overflowing with sophistimicated do-dads, plus some racing stripes and an aerofoil, that only Teh Designer could have possibly poofed into existence. †Did I mention that it's really complex? †It is ... REALLY complex."

I think I would have won if I hadn't mentioned the designer.



Stolen from Watterson's Calvin & Hobbes

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(Permalink) Posted: June 01 2012,20:52   

Quote (Kattarina98 @ June 01 2012,18:50)
 
Quote (NormOlsen @ June 01 2012,17:27)
And in case anybody missed it, the winning entry of UD's "Describe the Cell" contest, by niwrad:

† † †
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A Ďcellí is a bio-cybernetic chemical automaton able to self-replicate, self-organize, and perform metabolic functions by means of nano-level molecular machines controlled by internal digital software stored in information rich polymers.


My own entry didn't make the cut:

"A cell is a whiz-bang, super-duper, computational thingamajig, with tons of specified complexity, surrounded by loads of informational stuff, packed with technical jargon up the yin-yang, and overflowing with sophistimicated do-dads, plus some racing stripes and an aerofoil, that only Teh Designer could have possibly poofed into existence. †Did I mention that it's really complex? †It is ... REALLY complex."

I think I would have won if I hadn't mentioned the designer.



Stolen from Watterson's Calvin & Hobbes

Awesomeness!

  
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(Permalink) Posted: June 02 2012,12:21   

Quote (Kattarina98 @ June 01 2012,17:03)
KF can't stand mildmannered Jerad who manages to have friendly conversations with Eugene, Collin, and Eric Anderson. Time to show them how to treat evilutionists. † † †
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... and I must confess it is annoying to be forever strawmannised.

Uh-oh, Satan's tail spotted: † † †
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And, please note the unacceptable rhetorical pattern, again. You have been listening to the talking points of a side that is committed to a scorched earth defence of its a priori materialism. Which is inescapably self refuting and amoral to begin with.

Closing with a reminder who Jerad is dealing with: † † †
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Right now I have to attend to a declaration to the UN decolonisation commission; of all things.

Writing crank letters to the UN again ...

Unfortunately Jerad is not a deep thinker:
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I see where you use 500 or 1000 bits. Of course 1000 is not the square of 500 but I see what youíre getting at.

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(Permalink) Posted: June 02 2012,14:14   

Quote (NormOlsen @ June 01 2012,15:27)
And in case anybody missed it, the winning entry of UD's "Describe the Cell" contest, by niwrad:

 
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A Ďcellí is a bio-cybernetic chemical automaton able to self-replicate, self-organize, and perform metabolic functions by means of nano-level molecular machines controlled by internal digital software stored in information rich polymers.


My own entry didn't make the cut:

"A cell is a whiz-bang, super-duper, computational thingamajig, with tons of specified complexity, surrounded by loads of informational stuff, packed with technical jargon up the yin-yang, and overflowing with sophistimicated do-dads, plus some racing stripes and an aerofoil, that only Teh Designer could have possibly poofed into existence. †Did I mention that it's really complex? †It is ... REALLY complex."

I think I would have won if I hadn't mentioned the designer.

It's because you correctly used "yin", instead of "ying".

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(Permalink) Posted: June 04 2012,01:50   

Quote (Richardthughes @ June 01 2012,21:06)
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Quote (JLT @ June 01 2012,06:53)
I'm sure none of you would want to miss this:
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Luskin and Arrington Discuss ID

Date: †Monday, June 4

Time: †4:00 to 6:00 Mountain

Go here http://www.947krks.com/....rks....rks.com

Then click on ďListen LiveĒ

Liveblog here, maybe?

I'm wondering, is this the show Luskin and Barry will appear at to discuss the totally not religious ID?



Get answers to your Bible questions, LOL.
I'm feeling slightly masochistic today, maybe I'll listen in.

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Thus, a realistic [computer] simulation [of evolution] would allow the program, OS, and hardware to be affected in a random fashion." GilDodgen, Frilly shirt owner

  
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(Permalink) Posted: June 04 2012,05:49   

Who's going to tell them that D. James Kennedy is dead?

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(Permalink) Posted: June 04 2012,07:34   

Quote (JLT @ June 04 2012,02:50)
Quote (Richardthughes @ June 01 2012,21:06)
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Quote (JLT @ June 01 2012,06:53)
I'm sure none of you would want to miss this:
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Luskin and Arrington Discuss ID

Date: †Monday, June 4

Time: †4:00 to 6:00 Mountain

Go here http://www.947krks.com/....rks....rks.com

Then click on ďListen LiveĒ

Liveblog here, maybe?

I'm wondering, is this the show Luskin and Barry will appear at to discuss the totally not religious ID?



Get answers to your Bible questions, LOL.
I'm feeling slightly masochistic today, maybe I'll listen in.

Who will be calling in as "Gordo from Montserrat"?

  
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(Permalink) Posted: June 04 2012,07:35   

Quote (CeilingCat @ June 04 2012,11:49)
Who's going to tell them that D. James Kennedy is dead?

Not the finance department, that's for sure.

  
JLT



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(Permalink) Posted: June 04 2012,10:59   

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When the design inference goes bad Ö
Posted by News under Design inference, Intelligent Design, Just For Fun, News

From ďJesus found in Texas bathroom mold, we learn † †
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A Texas family says they are getting strength from an image of Jesus they found in the mold growing inside the shower of their home.

† †Chyanna Richards, who lives in the home, told KTRK-TV, Houston, she doesnít know if itís mold or mildew in the bathroom but said the appearance of Jesusí image has meaning.

† †ďMaybe it means something. Maybe look into yourself and see if you need to change something in your life,Ē she said.

It does indeed mean something, Madam. Take it from UD News, it means you need to change your life.

Acquire a scrub brush and anti-mildew powder pronto, and get to work.

I just applied Dembski's EF.
It is obvious that there's no necessity for mold to grow in a form that might be recognized as Jesus by some.
It is also obviously impossible that this happened by chance.
Let's say the Jesus-like mold growth covers a 0.1x0.1 m area. Typical hyphae are a few Ķm wide, let's say 5 Ķm for ease of calculation. If I ignore for the moment anything else about growth pattern of mold, number of mold growth that can be identified as being Jesus if you look at it in the right way and if you're a religious whackjob who sees Jesus in everything, and all other factors that I don't know how to calculate, then I can easily estimate the possibility of this Jesus-like mold appearing by chance:
The area can be described as 4x10^8 5x5 Ķm "pixels". Each of these pixels can have mold in it or not, so the possibility of this one Jesus-like mold appearing on a shower wall is 1/2^400000000 which is really, really, really impossible. Like, at least 300 zeros and stuff impossible. And I haven't even calculated how impossible it is that it turned up in this specific shower and not in any other shower, cheese sandwich, or tree stump.

Which means that according to Dembski's EF Jesus himself designed this:



Praise be the Lord!

I don't know why the UD folks don't agree with me here. I'm pretty sure I followed the approved "How to calculate shit to arrive at some meaningless number with a lot of zeros to impress the rubes" method of ID math.

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Thus, a realistic [computer] simulation [of evolution] would allow the program, OS, and hardware to be affected in a random fashion." GilDodgen, Frilly shirt owner

  
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