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carlsonjok



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 06 2012,15:58   

Quote (Joe G @ Mar. 06 2012,13:56)
But I get the trick question- there isn't any such thing as one molecule of water.

Ya see, Joe, the trick in the question was that moles are animals and not molecules!



ETA: I left a clue in the image name. Let's see if the ID Ninja picks up on it.

Edited by carlsonjok on Mar. 06 2012,16:02

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 06 2012,15:59   

Quote (Joe G @ Mar. 06 2012,15:57)
Quote (blipey @ Mar. 06 2012,15:54)
Joe,

I'm really, really, REALLY interested in the following: "Do you know what a mole is yet?"

Bonus points: Does it have more or less CSI than an aardvark?

Man, I hope you answer this (especially part two).

Yes- a mole is that thing between your ears

Wow, he really doesn't know.  That's not terribly surprising, but his apparent lack of wikipedia skillz is awesome.

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But I get the trick question- there isn't any such thing as one molecule of water. -JoeG

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 06 2012,16:01   

Quote (Joe G @ Mar. 06 2012,15:20)
Quote (REC @ Mar. 06 2012,15:17)
Quote (Joe G @ Mar. 06 2012,15:15)
No kevin- the blind watchmaker is more than an ananlogy- it is a thesis

And you are still a childish imp

Could you state what you think the 'blind watchmaker' thesis is?

Again? For biology see dawkins

But anyway it would materialism's claim that matter, energy, necessity and chance are all that is required-> ie our existence is due to the unplanned, unguided interactions between matter and energy

Quote it.

Point me to the book and page or journal and page (volume etc as well) where Dawkins develops A THESIS (your words) that describes a blind watchmaker.

Until you do that, you are either lying or too stupid to understand the point.  

But that's what we get when talking to someone whose idea of rational discourse is talking about shit filled diapers.

So, can you actually talk about the 2nd law of thermodynamics or not?  A yes or no answer will do here.

I've been doing research, but we still need to clear this issue up.

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 06 2012,16:02   

Quote (blipey @ Mar. 06 2012,15:59)
Quote (Joe G @ Mar. 06 2012,15:57)
Quote (blipey @ Mar. 06 2012,15:54)
Joe,

I'm really, really, REALLY interested in the following: "Do you know what a mole is yet?"

Bonus points: Does it have more or less CSI than an aardvark?

Man, I hope you answer this (especially part two).

Yes- a mole is that thing between your ears

Wow, he really doesn't know.  That's not terribly surprising, but his apparent lack of wikipedia skillz is awesome.

Erik- there are SEVERAL definitions of the word "mole"- dumbass

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 06 2012,16:04   

Quote (OgreMkV @ Mar. 06 2012,16:01)
Quote (Joe G @ Mar. 06 2012,15:20)
Quote (REC @ Mar. 06 2012,15:17)
 
Quote (Joe G @ Mar. 06 2012,15:15)
No kevin- the blind watchmaker is more than an ananlogy- it is a thesis

And you are still a childish imp

Could you state what you think the 'blind watchmaker' thesis is?

Again? For biology see dawkins

But anyway it would materialism's claim that matter, energy, necessity and chance are all that is required-> ie our existence is due to the unplanned, unguided interactions between matter and energy

Quote it.

Point me to the book and page or journal and page (volume etc as well) where Dawkins develops A THESIS (your words) that describes a blind watchmaker.

Until you do that, you are either lying or too stupid to understand the point.  

But that's what we get when talking to someone whose idea of rational discourse is talking about shit filled diapers.

So, can you actually talk about the 2nd law of thermodynamics or not?  A yes or no answer will do here.

I've been doing research, but we still need to clear this issue up.

THAT is your cowardly response?

You know you could always just ante up with some evidence that proves I am wrong- but you won't because you are a coward.

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BTW: Joe, our position (i.e. evolution) does NOT require that there existed a species of ape-humans with 47 chromosomes.-Kevin McCarthy, ignorant of genetics

   
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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 06 2012,16:10   

Quote (Joe G @ Mar. 06 2012,16:04)
Quote (OgreMkV @ Mar. 06 2012,16:01)
Quote (Joe G @ Mar. 06 2012,15:20)
 
Quote (REC @ Mar. 06 2012,15:17)
 
Quote (Joe G @ Mar. 06 2012,15:15)
No kevin- the blind watchmaker is more than an ananlogy- it is a thesis

And you are still a childish imp

Could you state what you think the 'blind watchmaker' thesis is?

Again? For biology see dawkins

But anyway it would materialism's claim that matter, energy, necessity and chance are all that is required-> ie our existence is due to the unplanned, unguided interactions between matter and energy

Quote it.

Point me to the book and page or journal and page (volume etc as well) where Dawkins develops A THESIS (your words) that describes a blind watchmaker.

Until you do that, you are either lying or too stupid to understand the point.  

But that's what we get when talking to someone whose idea of rational discourse is talking about shit filled diapers.

So, can you actually talk about the 2nd law of thermodynamics or not?  A yes or no answer will do here.

I've been doing research, but we still need to clear this issue up.

THAT is your cowardly response?

You know you could always just ante up with some evidence that proves I am wrong- but you won't because you are a coward.

No Joe, it's because I think you are lying.  My secondary hypothesis is that you are too stupid (or willfully ignorant) to understand the difference between an analogy used in educating people who are not scientists and the actual scientific concept.

I want you to show me where you got your claims, so I can correctly choose the answer.  you not giving me such information is effectively admitting you are a liar.

There is only one definition of 'mole' that pertains to chemistry.  sigh...

Seriously Joe, there's been two pages of us laughing our asses off because you don't understand something that I taught to 9th grade students before Christmas (you know, when they actually had a chance to remember something).

We haven't even gotten to the actual discussion on thermodynamics yet.  I just threw in "mole" to be sciency and to make the math slightly easier... if you could actually do any math.

That is NOT a fundamental part of the question.  That  fact that you can't even recognize that is just freaking hilarious and more evidence that you are utterly without a clue.

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 06 2012,16:16   

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But I get the trick question- there isn't any such thing as one molecule of water.


Thank you, Joe. Thank you so very, very much for that.

And congratulations on posting the single funniest thing I've read all fucking week.

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 06 2012,16:16   

Quote (carlsonjok @ Mar. 06 2012,21:58)
Quote (Joe G @ Mar. 06 2012,13:56)
But I get the trick question- there isn't any such thing as one molecule of water.

Ya see, Joe, the trick in the question was that moles are animals and not molecules!



ETA: I left a clue in the image name. Let's see if the ID Ninja picks up on it.

6022x10e23?

Ah! (Scribbles furiously) I see! Astonishing to think this species can fly with that many coconuts, even underground!

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 06 2012,16:20   

Quote (Lou FCD @ Mar. 06 2012,22:16)
Quote (Joe G @ Mar. 06 2012,14:56)
But I get the trick question- there isn't any such thing as one molecule of water.


Thank you, Joe. Thank you so very, very much for that.

And congratulations on posting the single funniest thing I've read all fucking week.

Truly a deserving remark, but on a point of protocol, does it deserve PoTW or The Presidential Medal?

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JoeG BTW dumbass- some variations help ensure reproductive fitness so they cannot be random wrt it.

   
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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 06 2012,16:20   

Quote (Lou FCD @ Mar. 06 2012,16:16)
Quote (Joe G @ Mar. 06 2012,14:56)
But I get the trick question- there isn't any such thing as one molecule of water.


Thank you, Joe. Thank you so very, very much for that.

And congratulations on posting the single funniest thing I've read all fucking week.

We outta cut Joe some slack. He is only 23 orders of magnitude off. That's well within the universal probability bound!

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 06 2012,16:22   



Inside joke few outside of Chicago will get.

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 06 2012,16:28   

Quote (Erasmus, FCD @ Mar. 06 2012,14:03)
frisbee kid while you are here, just like to thank you for your epic performance at TSZ lately.  i have pointed and laughed at you for years but that was by far the most hilarious thing you have ever done.  beats the fuck out of everything prior by infinite exponents.  not even the same universe of tard as you have been producing.  just wanted you to know that I, old buddy, am a HUGE fan of this shit.  There is no doubt in my military mind that you have converted *untold* numbers of onlookers to Intelligent Design Creationism as a direct result of your reasoned, objective, coolly logical arguments drawing upon the vast amount of literature, theoretical and conceptual knowledge you have at your disposal.

FUCKING A, DOOD


yay!!!!1!!!

but this shit is already out of date.  this motherfucker keeps upping the ante.  i am going to DIE of tard



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 06 2012,16:29   

Quote (OgreMkV @ Mar. 06 2012,14:10)
No Joe, it's because I think you are lying.  My secondary hypothesis is that you are too stupid (or willfully ignorant) to understand the difference between an analogy used in educating people who are not scientists and the actual scientific concept.

I want you to show me where you got your claims, so I can correctly choose the answer.  you not giving me such information is effectively admitting you are a liar.

Are you sure about this?

Given the evidence of this thread, if option A is "Joe is dumber than Dumb Dumbo McDumb, dumbest man in Dumbopolis, on the Feast of St DumDum The Dumb", and option B is "anything else", I'm putting my money on option A.

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 06 2012,16:58   

Quote (JohnW @ Mar. 06 2012,16:29)
Quote (OgreMkV @ Mar. 06 2012,14:10)
No Joe, it's because I think you are lying.  My secondary hypothesis is that you are too stupid (or willfully ignorant) to understand the difference between an analogy used in educating people who are not scientists and the actual scientific concept.

I want you to show me where you got your claims, so I can correctly choose the answer.  you not giving me such information is effectively admitting you are a liar.

Are you sure about this?

Given the evidence of this thread, if option A is "Joe is dumber than Dumb Dumbo McDumb, dumbest man in Dumbopolis, on the Feast of St DumDum The Dumb", and option B is "anything else", I'm putting my money on option A.

You make a strong case... but...



This cat has Megatron on his head.  Your argument is invalid.

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Honestly, it could go either way.  And it could likely be both.  Joe could be using someone else's lie.

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 06 2012,17:25   

Quote (Joe G @ Mar. 06 2012,16:02)
Quote (blipey @ Mar. 06 2012,15:59)
Quote (Joe G @ Mar. 06 2012,15:57)
 
Quote (blipey @ Mar. 06 2012,15:54)
Joe,

I'm really, really, REALLY interested in the following: "Do you know what a mole is yet?"

Bonus points: Does it have more or less CSI than an aardvark?

Man, I hope you answer this (especially part two).

Yes- a mole is that thing between your ears

Wow, he really doesn't know.  That's not terribly surprising, but his apparent lack of wikipedia skillz is awesome.

Erik- there are SEVERAL definitions of the word "mole"- dumbass



This should help with that problem...

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 06 2012,17:49   

Quote (OgreMkV @ Mar. 06 2012,16:10)
Quote (Joe G @ Mar. 06 2012,16:04)
Quote (OgreMkV @ Mar. 06 2012,16:01)
 
Quote (Joe G @ Mar. 06 2012,15:20)
 
Quote (REC @ Mar. 06 2012,15:17)
   
Quote (Joe G @ Mar. 06 2012,15:15)
No kevin- the blind watchmaker is more than an ananlogy- it is a thesis

And you are still a childish imp

Could you state what you think the 'blind watchmaker' thesis is?

Again? For biology see dawkins

But anyway it would materialism's claim that matter, energy, necessity and chance are all that is required-> ie our existence is due to the unplanned, unguided interactions between matter and energy

Quote it.

Point me to the book and page or journal and page (volume etc as well) where Dawkins develops A THESIS (your words) that describes a blind watchmaker.

Until you do that, you are either lying or too stupid to understand the point.  

But that's what we get when talking to someone whose idea of rational discourse is talking about shit filled diapers.

So, can you actually talk about the 2nd law of thermodynamics or not?  A yes or no answer will do here.

I've been doing research, but we still need to clear this issue up.

THAT is your cowardly response?

You know you could always just ante up with some evidence that proves I am wrong- but you won't because you are a coward.

No Joe, it's because I think you are lying.  My secondary hypothesis is that you are too stupid (or willfully ignorant) to understand the difference between an analogy used in educating people who are not scientists and the actual scientific concept.

I want you to show me where you got your claims, so I can correctly choose the answer.  you not giving me such information is effectively admitting you are a liar.

There is only one definition of 'mole' that pertains to chemistry.  sigh...

Seriously Joe, there's been two pages of us laughing our asses off because you don't understand something that I taught to 9th grade students before Christmas (you know, when they actually had a chance to remember something).

We haven't even gotten to the actual discussion on thermodynamics yet.  I just threw in "mole" to be sciency and to make the math slightly easier... if you could actually do any math.

That is NOT a fundamental part of the question.  That  fact that you can't even recognize that is just freaking hilarious and more evidence that you are utterly without a clue.

Umm, asshole, I showed you where I got my claims and you threw a hissy fit because i provided quotes:

So here is the evolutionary references to support my claim:

Eric B Knox, "The use of hierarchies as organizational models
in systematics", <i>Biological Journal of the Linnean Society</I> (1998), 63: 1–49:
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Evolution is rife with examples of such apparent conflict because it is an inherently dualistic process. This dualism is obvious in Darwin’s enduring characterization of evolution as descent with modification. This dualism is manifested in a mechanism that is prospectively <b>blind</b>, but retrospectively capable of organic improvement. page 4 (bold added)



Then we have:
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“Natural selection is the blind watchmaker, blind because it does not see ahead, does not plan consequences, has no purpose in view.” Dawkins in “The Blind Watchmaker”



and:

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“Natural selection is the simple result of variation, differential reproduction, and heredity—it is mindless and mechanistic.” <a href=http://evolution.berkeley.edu/evosite/evo101/IIIE6Nonrandom.shtml><b>UCBerkley</b></a>



From the “Contemporary Discourse in the Field Of Biology” series I read- <i>Biological Evolution: An Anthology of Current Thought</i>, (edited by Katy Human). This is part of a reviewed series expressing the current scientific consensus.

<blockquote>
Uncertainty, randomness, nonlinearity, and lack of hierarchy seem to rule existence, at least where evolution is concerned.- page10</blockquote>


<blockquote>
The old, discredited equation of evolution with progress has been largely superseded by the almost whimsical notion that evolution requires mistakes to bring about specieswide adaptation. Natural selection requires variation, and variation requires mutations- <b>those accidental deletions or additions of material deep within the DNA of our cells</b>. In an increasingly slick, fast-paced, automated, impersonal world, one in which we are constantly being reminded of the narrow margin for error, it is refreshing to be reminded that <b>mistakes are a powerful and necessary creative force</b>. A few important but subtle “mistakes,” in evolutionary terms, may save the human race. -page 10 ending the intro</blockquote>


<a href=http://learn.genetics.utah.edu/archive/sloozeworm/mutationbg.html><b>What Causes Mutations?</b></a>:
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Mutations in DNA sequences generally occur through one of two processes:
1. DNA damage from environmental agents such as ultraviolet light (sunshine), nuclear radiation or certain chemicals


2. Mistakes that occur when a cell copies its DNA in preparation for cell division.


[url= http://evolution.berkeley.edu/evolibr....;Causes of Mutations</b>[/url]:
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1. DNA fails to copy accurately
Most of the mutations that we think matter to evolution are "naturally-occurring." For example, when a cell divides, it makes a copy of its DNA — and sometimes the copy is not quite perfect. That small difference from the original DNA sequence is a mutation.


2. External influences can create mutations
Mutations can also be caused by exposure to specific chemicals or radiation. These agents cause the DNA to break down. This is not necessarily unnatural — even in the most isolated and pristine environments, DNA breaks down. Nevertheless, when the cell repairs the DNA, it might not do a perfect job of the repair. So the cell would end up with DNA slightly different than the original DNA and hence, a mutation.



<b> DNA Replication and Causes of Mutation</b>
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DNA replication is a truly amazing biological phenomenon. Consider the countless number of times that your cells divide to make you who you are—not just during development, but even now, as a fully mature adult. Then consider that every time a human cell divides and its DNA replicates, it has to copy and transmit the exact same sequence of 3 billion nucleotides to its daughter cells. Finally, consider the fact that in life (literally), nothing is perfect. While most DNA replicates with fairly high fidelity, mistakes do happen, with polymerase enzymes sometimes inserting the wrong nucleotide or too many or too few nucleotides into a sequence. Fortunately, most of these mistakes are fixed through various DNA repair processes. Repair enzymes recognize structural imperfections between improperly paired nucleotides, cutting out the wrong ones and putting the right ones in their place. But some replication errors make it past these mechanisms, thus becoming permanent mutations. These altered nucleotide sequences can then be passed down from one cellular generation to the next, and if they occur in cells that give rise to gametes, they can even be transmitted to subsequent organismal generations. <b>Moreover, when the genes for the DNA repair enzymes themselves become mutated, mistakes begin accumulating at a much higher rate.</b> In eukaryotes, such mutations can lead to cancer. (bold added)


?
And finally:

The Elie Wiesel Foundation for Humanity- Nobel Laureates Iinitiative

September 9, 2005
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Logically derived from confirmable evidence, evolution is understood to be the result of an unguided, unplanned process of random variation and natural selection.



Yes I know I have a bunch of messed up tags but the above is more than enough to prove that you are a fucking asshole, liar and coward- and I would expect your ilk to laugh, apparently that is all you can do.

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 06 2012,17:51   

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There is only one definition of 'mole' that pertains to chemistry.  sigh...


Yes, I know- what I didn't know is if you were using some sort of shorthand for "molecule"- you have proven to be a deceptive little coward but I just didn't figure out how deep your cowardice went.

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Chromosomes. are. all. connected. It is one long polymer. Called the DNA. - oleg t


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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 06 2012,17:52   

Quote (Joe G @ Mar. 06 2012,18:49)
Yes I know I have a bunch of messed up tags but the above is more than enough to prove that you are a fucking asshole, liar and coward-

Actually, it's more than enough to prove that you are an incompetent moron, but that's about it.

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 06 2012,17:53   

Quote (Joe G @ Mar. 06 2012,17:51)
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There is only one definition of 'mole' that pertains to chemistry.  sigh...


Yes, I know- what I didn't know is if you were using some sort of shorthand for "molecule"- you have proven to be a deceptive little coward but I just didn't figure out how deep your cowardice went.

LOL! No one remotely familiar with chemistry will confuse a mole for a molecule.

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 06 2012,17:53   

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There is only one definition of 'mole' that pertains to chemistry.  sigh...


Yes, I know- what I didn't know is if you were using some sort of shorthand for "molecule"-

bwahahahhahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahhaahhaahhahahahahahahhahahahahaha
hahahhahaahahaahahhahahhaha

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 06 2012,17:53   

Quote (Joe G @ Mar. 06 2012,15:20)
Quote (REC @ Mar. 06 2012,15:17)
Quote (Joe G @ Mar. 06 2012,15:15)
No kevin- the blind watchmaker is more than an ananlogy- it is a thesis

And you are still a childish imp

Could you state what you think the 'blind watchmaker' thesis is?

Again? For biology see dawkins

But anyway it would materialism's claim that matter, energy, necessity and chance are all that is required-> ie our existence is due to the unplanned, unguided interactions between matter and energy

Hey kevin- did you miss my above explanation to Dr Collins?

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 06 2012,17:55   

Quote (olegt @ Mar. 06 2012,17:53)
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There is only one definition of 'mole' that pertains to chemistry.  sigh...


Yes, I know- what I didn't know is if you were using some sort of shorthand for "molecule"- you have proven to be a deceptive little coward but I just didn't figure out how deep your cowardice went.

LOL! No one remotely familiar with chemistry will confuse a mole for a molecule.

Fuck you asshole- this is NOT a lab, this is an asshole hangout- and you are one of the head assholes- congratulations.

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 06 2012,17:55   

Quote (Joe G @ Mar. 06 2012,17:51)
 
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There is only one definition of 'mole' that pertains to chemistry.  sigh...

Yes, I know- what I didn't know is if you were using some sort of shorthand for "molecule"- you have proven to be a deceptive little coward but I just didn't figure out how deep your cowardice went.



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 06 2012,17:56   

Quote (Lou FCD @ Mar. 06 2012,17:52)
Quote (Joe G @ Mar. 06 2012,18:49)
Yes I know I have a bunch of messed up tags but the above is more than enough to prove that you are a fucking asshole, liar and coward-

Actually, it's more than enough to prove that you are an incompetent moron, but that's about it.

Not really as I have said that same thing many times and kevin is still to fucking dense to grasp any of it- he just accuses me of arguing by quote or some such cowardice- and you know all about cowardice...

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 06 2012,17:56   

This is tenth-grade stuff, Joe. You fail.

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 06 2012,17:57   

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There is only one definition of 'mole' that pertains to chemistry.  sigh...

Yes, I know- what I didn't know is if you were using some sort of shorthand for "molecule"- you have proven to be a deceptive little coward but I just didn't figure out how deep your cowardice went.


And another limp-dick chimes in- as if you have ever been in a chemistry lab- oh wait- your meth lab....

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 06 2012,17:58   

Quote (olegt @ Mar. 06 2012,17:56)
This is tenth-grade stuff, Joe. You fail.

Again fuck you as this is NOT a chemistry lab and McCarthy has no right to be testing anyone- you fail, kevin fails

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Chromosomes. are. all. connected. It is one long polymer. Called the DNA. - oleg t


BTW: Joe, our position (i.e. evolution) does NOT require that there existed a species of ape-humans with 47 chromosomes.-Kevin McCarthy, ignorant of genetics

   
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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 06 2012,18:03   

Quote (Joe G @ Mar. 06 2012,17:58)
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This is tenth-grade stuff, Joe. You fail.

Again fuck you as this is NOT a chemistry lab and McCarthy has no right to be testing anyone- you fail, kevin fails



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 06 2012,18:05   

So, O Sciency One, now that you've (possibly) figured out what a mole is:
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Hey Joe, trick question, in a closed system how does the entropy of one mole of water change as it disassociates into hydrogen and oxygen?  How does the entropy change as the disassociated gases recombine into water?

Do you need some help Joe?

I thought you understood all this 2nd law stuff.  If you understood the 2nd law, then the answer is obvious.


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Joe G



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 06 2012,18:05   

oleg, you do have a point- if I had either you or Kevin as a 10th grade chemistry teacher, I would have failed because of the teacher's incometence.

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Chromosomes. are. all. connected. It is one long polymer. Called the DNA. - oleg t


BTW: Joe, our position (i.e. evolution) does NOT require that there existed a species of ape-humans with 47 chromosomes.-Kevin McCarthy, ignorant of genetics

   
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