Joined: Jan. 2006
As Joe is selectively misremembering / misrepresenting I'm going to do a quick synopsis of what happened:
1. Joe was opining about our 'privileged' planet
2. Many pointed out that we're not that privileged' and that better locations for discovery could easily exist
3. Joe then claimed even if that's so we're only slightly less privileged (!) for scientific discovery.
4. I pointed out that a simple system of one star like ours, one planet and one moon could support life and also the bulk of scientific discovery
5. Joe claimed (here comes the money shot!)
|For ONE, the earth/ moon system would fall into the Sun without any counter-balance- we need that external pull to help keep us in place.|
Obviously you don’t have much of a physics background. And obviously all you have are “why” questions that 5 year olds ask.
6. We all peed ourselves laughing at him
7. Oleg begins to teach Joe basic Physics
8. Joe claims that there is no way this system could exist.
9. I point out that he believes the actual universe which is far more complicated was created ex nihilo and these two position are irreconcilable.
10. Oleg continues to teach Joe Physics
11. Joe counters with
|What happens when you stretch out a piece of fabric, say a bed sheet, and then put one heavy bowling ball on it and then try to get two much smaller marbles to stay a specified distance- relatively close- away from the bowling bowl?|
You need a way to keep the bowling bowl from making too big of a dent, which is difficult to do wrt ONE heavy object. If the fabric is too tight the bowling ball will go all over the place.
12. Our pants will never dry out at this rate!
13. Joe now claims that Oleg believes that the real universe only has one star, planet and moon. This was never suggested and is incredibly dishonest even by Joe's(!) standards.
Please edit and improve this rough draft, contributors.
Edited by Richardthughes on April 12 2012,08:44
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