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J-Dog



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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 20 2007,14:20   

Cool! †ERV (aka Abbie Smith, aka The Behe Basher, aka The Dembski Destroyer, aka Grad Student Extraordinaire) Catches the Discovery Institute Plagiarizing - Follow The link.

http://endogenousretrovirus.blogspot.com/2007....sm.html

ps: †ERV's Got New Do Too - check it out

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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 20 2007,14:43   

Quote (J-Dog @ Nov. 20 2007,14:20)
Cool!  ERV (aka Abbie Smith, aka The Behe Basher, aka The Dembski Destroyer, aka Grad Student Extraordinaire) Catches the Discovery Institute Plagiarizing - Follow The link.

http://endogenousretrovirus.blogspot.com/2007....sm.html

ps:  ERV's Got New Do Too - check out the previous post

Sweet.  

I love that original video.  Piggybacking DI crap on that beautiful animation is contemptible.

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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 20 2007,14:46   

I'm sure they'll have a press release up soon...

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ERV



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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 20 2007,15:03   

While we would all like Harvard to crush DI, I believe they are sending them a 'cease and desist' letter.  While this is not 'crushing', it means that the rest of us should keep our eyes out for this animation at any future presentation.  If they use it, email me or someone at PT, and we will get it to the proper authorities.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 20 2007,15:10   

Quote (ERV @ Nov. 20 2007,15:03)
While we would all like Harvard to crush DI, I believe they are sending them a 'cease and desist' letter.  While this is not 'crushing', it means that the rest of us should keep our eyes out for this animation at any future presentation.  If they use it, email me or someone at PT, and we will get it to the proper authorities.

Friday is just a few days away... look for Dembski to post the names, addresses and phone numbers of Harvard's board of regents at UD.

I mean... we don't expect him to deal with this graciously, do we?

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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 20 2007,15:12   

IIRC correctly UD blogged about this some time ago, it "proved" ID no doubt.

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Hermagoras



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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 20 2007,17:29   

At my blog paralepsis (link below) I transcribed Dembski's introduction to the video, with a few additional points:

1. Clearly, he wants people to think either he or Behe had made the thing, just like he wants people to think Behe discovered the flagellum.  

2. This from the guy who says Judge Jones plagiarized the Dover decision.

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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 20 2007,18:51   

Looks like UD used to host it at this page.

Update: A comment there notes that it did say "Harvard University" on the animation.

Edited by Wesley R. Elsberry on Nov. 20 2007,18:52

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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 20 2007,23:03   

Quote (J-Dog @ Nov. 20 2007,14:20)
Cool!  ERV (aka Abbie Smith, aka The Behe Basher, aka The Dembski Destroyer, aka Grad Student Extraordinaire) Catches the Discovery Institute Plagiarizing - Follow The link.

http://endogenousretrovirus.blogspot.com/2007....sm.html

Seems the DIs understanding of Law is as bad as their understanding of science. I guess that's why they've been beaten both in a court room and in the laboratory :)


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ps:  ERV's Got New Do Too - check it out

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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 21 2007,00:53   

The lack of flatulence sounds leads me to believe Bill had nothing to do with the reworking.

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ERV



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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 21 2007,07:32   

Quote (Wesley R. Elsberry @ Nov. 20 2007,18:51)
Looks like UD used to host it at this page.

Update: A comment there notes that it did say "Harvard University" on the animation.

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I wonder if DaveScot did the alterations for Dembski?  Isnt he a 'computer' guy?  Has anyone heard his voice?

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 21 2007,11:02   

Quote (J. O'Donnell @ Nov. 20 2007,22:03)
Seems the DIs understanding of Law is as bad as their understanding of science. I guess that's why they've been beaten both in a court room and in the laboratory :)

Which I guess is why they tend to avoid both of those basic kinds of places? :p

Henry

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 21 2007,12:15   

Quote (ERV @ Nov. 21 2007,07:32)
Quote (Wesley R. Elsberry @ Nov. 20 2007,18:51)
Looks like UD used to host it at this page.

Update: A comment there notes that it did say "Harvard University" on the animation.

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I wonder if DaveScot did the alterations for Dembski? †Isnt he a 'computer' guy? †Has anyone heard his voice?

He has a rather high-pitched voice and speaks with a slight lisp.  Not that that's wrong....

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ERV



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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 21 2007,15:12   

Quote (J-Dog @ Nov. 21 2007,12:15)
   
Quote (ERV @ Nov. 21 2007,07:32)
   
Quote (Wesley R. Elsberry @ Nov. 20 2007,18:51)
Looks like UD used to host it at this page.

Update: A comment there notes that it did say "Harvard University" on the animation.

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I wonder if DaveScot did the alterations for Dembski?  Isnt he a 'computer' guy?  Has anyone heard his voice?

He has a rather high-pitched voice and speaks with a slight lisp.  Not that that's wrong....

Are you being silly, or are you serious. or are you confused with Luskin?  We thought it was Luskin at first, but I found a podcast with him, and it wasnt.

Have you heard the DIs narration?  Do you think it might be Dave??

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 21 2007,15:59   

I listened to it, and could not place the narrator's voice. That doesn't mean it isn't one of the big-time IDC advocates, but I wouldn't bet that way.

Update: Springer is not what I'd consider a big-time IDC advocate, and I haven't heard his voice.

Edited by Wesley R. Elsberry on Nov. 21 2007,16:00

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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 21 2007,17:01   

Dave doesn't take house(boat) calls, either.

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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 21 2007,18:21   

Quote (ERV @ Nov. 21 2007,15:12)
Quote (J-Dog @ Nov. 21 2007,12:15)
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Quote (ERV @ Nov. 21 2007,07:32)
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Quote (Wesley R. Elsberry @ Nov. 20 2007,18:51)
Looks like UD used to host it at this page.

Update: A comment there notes that it did say "Harvard University" on the animation.

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I wonder if DaveScot did the alterations for Dembski? †Isnt he a 'computer' guy? †Has anyone heard his voice?

He has a rather high-pitched voice and speaks with a slight lisp. †Not that that's wrong....

Are you being silly, or are you serious. or are you confused with Luskin? †We thought it was Luskin at first, but I found a podcast with him, and it wasnt.

Have you heard the DIs narration? †Do you think it might be Dave??

ERV - I have never heard DaveScot speak.  

But if he did, he would have a high-pitched squeeky voice.

Luskin is on tape all over - and he sounds just like a little lier.

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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 21 2007,19:45   

Whenever I've heard Dave speak it was was through the loudspeaker in the ceiling so it was hard to make out.

Loud, overbearing and empty is all I recall.

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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 21 2007,19:56   

I thought the narrator was Dembski, but that opinion is really not based on much.

   
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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 21 2007,19:57   

Quote (stevestory @ Nov. 21 2007,20:56)
I thought the narrator was Dembski, but that opinion is really not based on much.

Which puts it right in line with every other thing regarding the IDCH...

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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 22 2007,10:06   

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I thought the narrator was Dembski, but that opinion is really not based on much.

Can someone speed it up and add farty noises, so we can check?

Bob

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ERV



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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 26 2007,16:00   

NOTPOLOGY!!!

WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!

WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 26 2007,19:41   

Brief and to the point:

 
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Shorter Bill Dembski:

News Release: Harvard's XVIVO Video

The accusation that I stole Harvard's video is false. In reality I just circumvented distribution restrictions by copying it off the internet, modified it and made it look like my own work. BTW, comments are disabled, fuckers.


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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 26 2007,20:52   

Quote (Arden Chatfield @ Nov. 26 2007,19:41)
Brief and to the point:

 
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Shorter Bill Dembski:

News Release: Harvard's XVIVO Video

The accusation that I stole Harvard's video is false. In reality I just circumvented distribution restrictions by copying it off the internet, modified it and made it look like my own work. BTW, comments are disabled, fuckers.

There's an extraneous slash in that URL - This link works.

BTW, thanks for the link; I've always been a fan of Sadly, No!'s "shorter" posts.

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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 26 2007,22:08   

Quote (stevestory @ Nov. 21 2007,18:56)
I thought the narrator was Dembski, but that opinion is really not based on much.

It's Dembski. Or I'll eat my dat. (Or is it "cog"?) I know that voice - I know those mannerisms, those inflections (yes, that's weird, I know), but I'm pretty sure it's him.

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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 27 2007,07:52   

A bit more commentary.

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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 27 2007,08:13   

When you start wondering if things can't get any worse for Dembski...

Just wonderful!!! And all his own doing, too!

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 27 2007,08:44   

Quote (Alan Fox @ Nov. 27 2007,07:13)
When you start wondering if things can't get any worse for Dembski...

Just wonderful!!! And all his own doing, too!

Now, now, Alan. You know the routine. Plagiarism suggests a plagiariser, but you don't get to ask who the plagiariser is! ;)

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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 27 2007,09:28   

And, of course, FTK sticks her wet little nose in it and pulls back a turd:


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"Okay, I haven't had time to follow this latest melodrama, so let me see if I have this straight.

Dembski used a clip easily found on the Internet, and he credited the source.

Now, Darwinists here and at Harvard are pissed because it was used in an ID presentation. Correct?..."

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 27 2007,09:42   

Quote (Kristine @ Nov. 27 2007,08:44)
Quote (Alan Fox @ Nov. 27 2007,07:13)
When you start wondering if things can't get any worse for Dembski...

Just wonderful!!! And all his own doing, too!

Now, now, Alan. You know the routine. Plagiarism suggests a plagiariser, but you don't get to ask who the plagiariser is! ;)

Beautiful comment Kristine!

They are now one step closer to re-labling their psycho-Christo movement as NID - Non-Intellignet Design.

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