Joined: May 2007
|The following is not a truth statement|
3. Religion and Science can mix.
It is very much a matter of debate. A body representing science should not make the third statement. However, whenever the topic is brought up we are labelled with making statement 1 or 2
The problem I see is that it always seems that the concept of "religion" is taken for granted, meaning just one and one thing only. That is, it defaults to fait in a god, most likely a Christian style Catholic or Evangelical god, although Yahweh and Jewis deities probably ought to be included aling with Allah, Allah often being equated with one of the Christian god images but as it seems to me, is not quite the same thing.
So what the heck is god, Who is he/she/it, and what are its properties? Can anyone say anything we positively know about god?
That is only the beginning, as far as I can tell there are also religions without a god, and patheistis religions as well.
I thing all this shows that mankind got asteay at some pooint in time, making written records of myths and beliefs as well as propaganda both of religious as well as political nature.
Things written in a specific situation at a specific time for a specific purpose that have been adopted as eternal truth valid for all tiem and ages.
I believe mankind, being the 'symbol animal' (Cassirer) has gone astray because of his symbols. Our symbols, the symbolic language of our subconscious are rela enough and they have the characteristic of being 'supernatural' because thay appear seemingly out of nothing, i.e. they are attributed to a god-concept, instead of being realizead as emanations from our own soul. A soul we all share, it is universal in natuer and is there for a reason and purpose.
But institutionalized, book religiond have got it all wrong, they insist that the symbols should be read literally, like f.i. the symbols fo death and resurrection.
Like Sigmund Freud showed, and what even is explained in the book of Job, God is the one who send us dreams in our sleep and they require an interpreter to translate the symbolic content into meaningful language.
The subconscious is and should be hidden behind a curtain but may break through if induced by drugs or various more or less classifiable as 'psychotic' conditions.
Writing this without consulting or referencing sources, it is a subject covered in lots of literature but inaccessible to most people because the playground is very rough, strewn with rocks and pebbles.
There are reasons why man is religious; it is because of his nature, an animal having become conscious; cast into the worild without really knowing where he is coming from or where he is.
That's what the ancients struggled with and with lot of pain have been able to make some progress to cope with, but the tentative solutions have been canonized and we wil have to live with them for a long time yet.
This isn't the best I have written but the best I can do in about half an hour or so.
I almost forgot my bottom line: My religion is 100% compatible with science. Because I have no god or devil anywhere except in my own soul. And they are both one and the same, a medusa.
My new avatar is so lovely.
you are hand waving faster than a one armed NY cabby with crabs.
No, I said nothing about mathematics. Anyone can support anything with mathematics.