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Richardthughes



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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 11 2009,15:58   

Quote (Bob O'H @ Sep. 11 2009,15:57)
Quote (midwifetoad @ Sep. 11 2009,12:04)
 As others have pointed out, all you have to do is sit down to program a Weasel algorithm, and it becomes clear that passing the location of correct letters is much more complex than selecting the child closest to the target. One could differentiate the algorithms by the number of steps and tests required to generate a population.

So Dembski's version is more complicated?  Doesn't that mean he's just smuggling information into his algorithm?

Naughty Dembski!  No free lunch for you.

Arf!

Someone do a funny about lunchtime and baylor cafe being NOMA.

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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 11 2009,17:45   

Quote (dvunkannon @ Sep. 11 2009,10:20)
It is still not clear if Dembski even cares about irreducible complexity.

He cared enough to revisit it:   Irreducible Complexity Revisited

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Richardthughes



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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 11 2009,18:24   

CliveBaby, KF apologist:

http://www.uncommondescent.com/darwini....-333763

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339

Clive Hayden

09/11/2009

3:33 pm
FrogBox,

Just to note that if it wasn’t for the likes of me and the hundreds of thousands of colleauges throughout the world who are proud lab coat wearers, the planet would be in a very much worse way than it is now.

kairosfocus’ anti-science rhetoric shows him in a very bad light indeed, as one of those who would indeed take society back to the Dark Ages if they had the opportunity.


Advancement is not limited to lab coat wearers, it is only limited to human ingenuity, and on this score kairosfocus can speak as well as anyone, indeed better than someone who wears a lab coat. Lab coats don’t come with the art of ingenuity built-in, and without folks like kairosfocus, lab coats would be a self aggrandizing group, with no accountability and no special training in actual broad thinking. Surely you’re not willing to say that labcoats gives a mind a special monopoly on ingenuity and rationality? If you are, that is called scientism, which is a philosophy, which other reasonable men can critique and which has no special place in the world of thinking men. Who would take us back to the Dark Ages are those who think that the only thing that matters is whatever folks who wear lab coats think, for they will impose whatever they want on the rest of humanity, which will be the opposite of the Enlightenment, and indeed, may be called the next age of Endarkenment.

“Education without values, as useful as it is, seems rather to make man a more clever devil.”
C.S. Lewis


Clive, while "Advancement is not limited to lab coat wearers..", we'd be royally fucked without the contribution of that specific subset.

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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 11 2009,18:39   

Quote (Richardthughes @ Sep. 11 2009,18:24)
CliveBaby, KF apologist:

http://www.uncommondescent.com/darwini....-333763

 
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339

Clive Hayden

09/11/2009

3:33 pm
FrogBox,

Just to note that if it wasn’t for the likes of me and the hundreds of thousands of colleauges throughout the world who are proud lab coat wearers, the planet would be in a very much worse way than it is now.

kairosfocus’ anti-science rhetoric shows him in a very bad light indeed, as one of those who would indeed take society back to the Dark Ages if they had the opportunity.


Advancement is not limited to lab coat wearers, it is only limited to human ingenuity, and on this score kairosfocus can speak as well as anyone, indeed better than someone who wears a lab coat. Lab coats don’t come with the art of ingenuity built-in, and without folks like kairosfocus, lab coats would be a self aggrandizing group, with no accountability and no special training in actual broad thinking. Surely you’re not willing to say that labcoats gives a mind a special monopoly on ingenuity and rationality? If you are, that is called scientism, which is a philosophy, which other reasonable men can critique and which has no special place in the world of thinking men. Who would take us back to the Dark Ages are those who think that the only thing that matters is whatever folks who wear lab coats think, for they will impose whatever they want on the rest of humanity, which will be the opposite of the Enlightenment, and indeed, may be called the next age of Endarkenment.

“Education without values, as useful as it is, seems rather to make man a more clever devil.”
C.S. Lewis


Clive, while "Advancement is not limited to lab coat wearers..", we'd be royally fucked without the contribution of that specific subset.

Maybe, maybe not.  But, we will never know. And all I can say is Praise the Lord that Kairosfocus is spending large amounts of time pontificating about Lewontin and oil-soaked ad hominids on a backwater IDC blog, otherwise those labcoat types would be making a mess of this world with such atrocities as human-animal hybrids and sharks with frikkin' laserbeams on their heads.  Gordon is all that stands between us and a dark materialistic future.

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Richardthughes



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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 11 2009,18:51   

You've all read his anti-intellectualism TARD manifesto:

http://www.angelfire.com/pro....eculrsm

?

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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 11 2009,19:24   

Quote (Bob O'H @ Sep. 11 2009,15:57)
Quote (midwifetoad @ Sep. 11 2009,12:04)
 As others have pointed out, all you have to do is sit down to program a Weasel algorithm, and it becomes clear that passing the location of correct letters is much more complex than selecting the child closest to the target. One could differentiate the algorithms by the number of steps and tests required to generate a population.

So Dembski's version is more complicated?  Doesn't that mean he's just smuggling information into his algorithm?

Naughty Dembski!  No free lunch for you.

Yeah, he hides it in his sweater.

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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 11 2009,20:32   

Quote (Richardthughes @ Sep. 11 2009,18:51)
You've all read his anti-intellectualism TARD manifesto:

http://www.angelfire.com/pro....eculrsm

?

GEM of Riki-Tiki lives in Jamaica, which has more churches per capita than any other nation on earth.  It also has a crime rate that has spiraled so out of control that an Honorary English Ambassador was found  beaten and strangled to death in his  own home in a wealthy neighborhood a couple of days ago.  

His main job as honorary Ambassador was providing council to English crime victims.

Found murdered, Jamaica has highest murder rate in the world.


Beaten and strangled because he was gay.

Perhaps Mr. Gordon should stop preaching to the rest of the world and concentrate on his own gay-bashing, church-going xtians.

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bfish



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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 11 2009,21:00   

Quote (CeilingCat @ Sep. 11 2009,18:32)
GEM of Riki-Tiki lives in Jamaica

I thought KF was from Montserrat.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 11 2009,22:51   

Quote (bfish @ Sep. 11 2009,19:00)
Quote (CeilingCat @ Sep. 11 2009,18:32)
GEM of Riki-Tiki lives in Jamaica

I thought KF was from Montserrat.

He's a native Jamaican who lives in Montserrat.

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Richardthughes



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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 11 2009,23:33   

TARD!


http://uk.groups.yahoo.com/group/caribbeankairos/message/742

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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 11 2009,23:57   

Quote (Richardthughes @ Sep. 12 2009,00:33)
TARD!


http://uk.groups.yahoo.com/group/caribbeankairos/message/742

gordon mullings is a fucked up individual

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On October 6, 2008, under the banner BBC News, Roger Bolton published an article on the recent digitalisation of the well-known Codex Sinaiticus, discovered in 1844 by Tischendorf in a pile of old manuscripts in St Catherine's Monastery in the Sinai; and then intended to be used for heating cold rooms.

A minor item, hardly worth noticing, you would say.

Until you read the sensationalistic headline: "The rival to the Bible."

For, a la Dan Brown et al on steroids, the article -- duly presented as "news" asserts:


no oily ad homos yet

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A little "deconstruction" is plainly in order, as the item is highly revealing on what is happening to the former gold standard of world news, the BBC:


hmm sounds familiar?

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idiotic points ONE THROUGH SEVENTEEN!!!!!!!!


christ

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n short, Mr Bolton has inappropriately sensationalised the significance of the Codex Sinaiticus, and in so doing has failed to consult and give us the counsel of informed experts on both sides of the questions. Had he done so, a very different picute would have emerged.

That is bad enough, but it is compounded by the emerging pattern that reeveals the flawed editorial policy of the BBC in our day: such gross errors and bias SHOULD have been caught at the first step of editorial cross-checking.

Thatit was not, and the fact that a follow up inquiry by this blogger to the head of the relevant Editorial Committee in the BBC, Mr Bruce Vander, has been unanswered for coming on a fortnight now, speaks volumes about this once gold standard media house. (I treated this issue as a follow up to an earlier complaint on an entertainment programme that grossly slandered evangelical Christians as potentially violent, racist terrorists.)

All of which is ever so sad.

Let us hope that BBC will wake up and do better in future reports. END

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Posted By Gordon to KairosFocus at 8/04/2009 08:00:00 AM


No, fucko, IT IS NOT IN SHORT.  YOU DO NOT WRITE THINGS IN SHORT.

which is ever so sad

DUM

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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 12 2009,00:23   

So, what y'all are saying is that Gordon E. (I vant to be alone) Mullings has email addys that should be kept private, per his express wishes:
 
caribbeankairos-owner@yahoogroups.com.uk

kairosfocus@yahoo.co.uk

Okay, gotcha. Will do. Private it is. Even if they're already freely available on teh intardwebz, I won't encourage anyone to abuse those.

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sparc



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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 12 2009,00:28   

What do you expect from somebody who wrote a  manual for running a fundamentalist cell.

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"[...] the type of information we find in living systems is beyond the creative means of purely material processes [...] Who or what is such an ultimate source of information? [...] from a theistic perspective, such an information source would presumably have to be God."

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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 12 2009,00:49   

BTW, I always wonder why burning strawmen should be bad. We do this once a year in Cologne and it is fun:
link, link, link

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"[...] the type of information we find in living systems is beyond the creative means of purely material processes [...] Who or what is such an ultimate source of information? [...] from a theistic perspective, such an information source would presumably have to be God."

- William Dembski -

   
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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 12 2009,02:33   

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Mr Gordon Mullings
Montserrat


Dear Gordon,

I thank you for your rather long letter regarding the BBC's documentary on the Codex Sinaiticus. I'm glad you appreciated it and notpologise for taking more than 2 weeks to reply.

Whilst it is not the policy of the BBC to normally apologize to foreign nationals whose tendentious claptrap falls outside proper professional standards by which their opinions dissenting or not preclude any rational conclusions in the normal space of a working eon. I will take this opportunity to offer you a free raspberry from one of "The Goon Show" audio tapes.
Expect delivery in the next 2 weeks.

It seems to me that you would benefit from some of our other programs and I would like to take this opportunity to recommend "Magic Roundabout" and "Captain Pugwash"

I look forward to further correspondence from you with regard to the above BBC programs.

Please visit our online store for merchandise suitable for any family.

Yours Sincerely

Amanda Hugginkiss

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Bruce Vander
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Edited by Lou FCD on Sep. 12 2009,10:53

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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 12 2009,05:22   

Venturefree:
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Corny,

I’m so happy that you started posting here on UD. You’re posts are hilarious! The best part is the credulous responses of the IDists, which can often be even more hilarious.

Link

Classic.

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I also mentioned that He'd have to give me a thorough explanation as to *why* I must "eat human babies".
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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 12 2009,06:15   

Gordon Mullings
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On topic: the objectors above to my remarks on materialist philosophers and would-be neo-magisterium in lab coats rather than ecclesiastical robes — forgive me on this, Catholics, I have to make a point in a way that will go home to a Golden Compass, anti- C S Lewisian thinking mentality — would do well to ponder the implications of the already linked remarks on US National Academy of Sciences member Richard Lewontin’s infamous 1997 review, and the statements from the said academy in its interventions in Kansas, but moreso the following from their 2008 version of their official pamphlet on “Science” vs “Creationism” — as was also linked — which let us note, they do not directly address on the merits, choosing instead to resort to an ad hominem.

Gordon sure does have some problems.

I wonder if he's anti Harry Potter too?

Think I'll find out........

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I also mentioned that He'd have to give me a thorough explanation as to *why* I must "eat human babies".
FTK

if there are even critical flaws in Gauger’s work, the evo mat narrative cannot stand
Gordon Mullings

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 12 2009,07:20   

barrett brown is sure missing a good chance to kick a hateful tardmongerer

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You're obviously illiterate as hell. Peach, bro.-FtK

Finding something hard to believe based on the evidence, is science.-JoeG

the odds of getting some loathsome taint are low-- Gordon E Mullings Manjack Heights Montserrat

I work on molecular systems with pathway charts and such.-Giggles

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 12 2009,07:49   

Quote (k.e.. @ Sep. 12 2009,02:33)
Quote
Mr Gordon Mullings
Montserrat


Dear Gordon,

I thank you for your rather long letter regarding the BBC's documentary on the Codex Sinaiticus. I'm glad you appreciated it and notpologise for taking more than 2 weeks to reply.

Whilst it is not the policy of the BBC to normally apologize to foreign nationals whose tendentious claptrap falls outside proper professional standards by which their opinions dissenting or not preclude any rational conclusions in the normal space of a working eon. I will take this opportunity to offer you a free raspberry from one of "The Goon Show" audio tapes.
Expect delivery in the next 2 weeks.

It seems to me that you would benefit from some of our other programs and I would like to take this opportunity to recommend "Magic Roundabout" and "Captain Pugwash"

I look forward to further correspondence from you with regard to the above BBC programs.

Please visit our online store for merchandise suitable for any family.

Yours Sincerely

Amanda Hugginkiss

PP

Bruce Vander
Complaints Manager and Secretary to the ESC.
BBC Trust.

k.e. - Your best post EVAH!

I nominate for POTW!

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k.e..



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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 12 2009,09:18   

Quote (oldmanintheskydidntdoit @ Sep. 12 2009,14:15)
Gordon Mullings    
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On topic: the objectors above to my remarks on materialist philosophers and would-be neo-magisterium in lab coats rather than ecclesiastical robes — forgive me on this, Catholics, I have to make a point in a way that will go home to a Golden Compass, anti- C S Lewisian thinking mentality — would do well to ponder the implications of the already linked remarks on US National Academy of Sciences member Richard Lewontin’s infamous 1997 review, and the statements from the said academy in its interventions in Kansas, but moreso the following from their 2008 version of their official pamphlet on “Science” vs “Creationism” — as was also linked — which let us note, they do not directly address on the merits, choosing instead to resort to an ad hominem.

Gordon sure does have some problems.

I wonder if he's anti Harry Potter too?

Think I'll find out........

Onlookers take note:
3000 years of creationist dogma beats rationality



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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 12 2009,09:58   

Here's a short one:

(it's so big It gets truncated here as a post!)

http://www.uncommondescent.com/darwini....-333792

http://www.uncommondescent.com/darwini....-333795

http://www.uncommondescent.com/darwini....-333796

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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 12 2009,10:33   

Gordon Mullings:
 
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unfortunate strawman distortion, laced with ad hominems. I too, as noted, am a “lab coat wearer.”

It takes more then wearing a lab coat Gordon!

Some weird goings on over the proper attire for a scientist in them comments

 
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used to try to pretend and project that I have not worn a lab coat myself (quite literally) are simply a “no true scotsman” ad hominem in disguise. And, besides the probative force of an argument comes from its weight on the merits of fact and logic, not who makes it, and what clothes s/he happens to wear [a shirtjac at the time as I recall], or when s/he said it – the just linked was a backup brief presentation for a public ethics lecture — what circle approves or disapproves.)


Confusingly Gordon ends
 
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In sum, we easily see the imposition of a priori materialism on science, the operation of a lab-coat wearing materialist neo-magisterium, and its pernicious effects.


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I also mentioned that He'd have to give me a thorough explanation as to *why* I must "eat human babies".
FTK

if there are even critical flaws in Gauger’s work, the evo mat narrative cannot stand
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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 12 2009,12:01   

Quote (oldmanintheskydidntdoit @ Sep. 12 2009,11:33)
Gordon Mullings:
 
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unfortunate strawman distortion, laced with ad hominems. I too, as noted, am a “lab coat wearer.”

It takes more then wearing a lab coat Gordon!

Some weird goings on over the proper attire for a scientist in them comments

 
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used to try to pretend and project that I have not worn a lab coat myself (quite literally) are simply a “no true scotsman” ad hominem in disguise. And, besides the probative force of an argument comes from its weight on the merits of fact and logic, not who makes it, and what clothes s/he happens to wear [a shirtjac at the time as I recall], or when s/he said it – the just linked was a backup brief presentation for a public ethics lecture — what circle approves or disapproves.)


Confusingly Gordon ends
 
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In sum, we easily see the imposition of a priori materialism on science, the operation of a lab-coat wearing materialist neo-magisterium, and its pernicious effects.

I went to the Gordon links. I can not read his stuff.  I try, but I literally can not follow what he's trying to convey.

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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 12 2009,12:27   

Quote (khan @ Sep. 12 2009,12:01)
I went to the Gordon links. I can not read his stuff.  I try, but I literally can not follow what he's trying to convey.

Khan - Not understanding kf - That's good - you pass the sanity test.

kf operates at the brain-scan level of a birther / deather / tea-partier / Glenn Beck watchin' Fox Fan.*



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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 12 2009,12:37   

Quote (Richardthughes @ Sep. 12 2009,10:58)
Here's a short one:

(it's so big It gets truncated here as a post!)

http://www.uncommondescent.com/darwini....-333792

http://www.uncommondescent.com/darwini....-333795

http://www.uncommondescent.com/darwini....-333796

that one almost gave him a stroke.

try harder!

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Finding something hard to believe based on the evidence, is science.-JoeG

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I work on molecular systems with pathway charts and such.-Giggles

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 12 2009,13:39   

Someone mentioned a while back that GAB of TALKY makes a kind of sense when one hypothesizes that words are magickal to him.

We've seen that before among religious fanatics, but not to quite the same degree as in Gordon Mullings.

 
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"Far away across the field,
The tolling of the iron bell
Calls the faithful to their knees,
To hear the softly spoken magic spells."
(apologies to Roger Waters)


In Mullings' case, the words don't have to be soft, or make a valid point, or even sense. There just has to be lots of them, arranged in magickal patterns that can be repeated ad nauseam to placate the angry gods and comfort the believers.

If one word is majickal, a thousand must be really potent. One just has to keep including the neccessary formulae, like "oil-soaked ad hominem strawmen" which he sometimes chants many times in the same clause-ridden post.

When I look at his posts that way -- as droning liturgies --  they do make a kind of sense.

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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 12 2009,13:47   

Quote (deadman_932 @ Sep. 12 2009,13:39)
Someone mentioned a while back that GAB of TALKY makes a kind of sense when one hypothesizes that words are magickal to him.

I've seen that among a handful of religious fanatics, but not to quite the same degree as in Gordon Mullings.

 
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"Far away across the field,
The tolling of the iron bell
Calls the faithful to their knees,
To hear the softly spoken magic spells."
(apologies to Roger Waters)


In Mullings' case, the words don't have to be soft, or make a valid point, or even sense. There just has to be lots of them, arranged in magickal patterns that can be repeated ad nauseam to placate the angry gods and comfort the believers.

When I look at his posts that way, they do make a kind of sense.

Maybe he's actually speaking in tongues, and it is our pattern seeking brains that try to make sense of it.

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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 12 2009,13:50   

Quote (deadman_932 @ Sep. 12 2009,14:39)
Someone mentioned a while back that GAB of TALKY makes a kind of sense when one hypothesizes that words are magickal to him.

I've seen that among a handful of religious fanatics, but not to quite the same degree as in Gordon Mullings.

 
Quote
"Far away across the field,
The tolling of the iron bell
Calls the faithful to their knees,
To hear the softly spoken magic spells."
(apologies to Roger Waters)


In Mullings' case, the words don't have to be soft, or make a valid point, or even sense. There just has to be lots of them, arranged in magickal patterns that can be repeated ad nauseam to placate the angry gods and comfort the believers.

When I look at his posts that way, they do make a kind of sense.

Interesting hypothesis.

What is interesting to me about observing these types is that I did not interact with fundies while I was growing up.

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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 12 2009,15:05   

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Someone mentioned a while back that GAB of TALKY makes a kind of sense when one hypothesizes that words are magickal to him.

We've seen that before among religious fanatics, but not to quite the same degree as in Gordon Mullings.

 
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"Far away across the field,
The tolling of the iron bell
Calls the faithful to their knees,
To hear the softly spoken magic spells."
(apologies to Roger Waters)


In Mullings' case, the words don't have to be soft, or make a valid point, or even sense. There just has to be lots of them, arranged in magickal patterns that can be repeated ad nauseam to placate the angry gods and comfort the believers.

If one word is majickal, a thousand must be really potent. One just has to keep including the neccessary formulae, like "oil-soaked ad hominem strawmen" which he sometimes chants many times in the same clause-ridden post.

When I look at his posts that way -- as droning liturgies --  they do make a kind of sense.

C'mon, everybody! In the true spirit of the pantomime that is a kairosfocus megatardtorrent

1.....2.....3..

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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 12 2009,16:19   

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Maybe he's actually speaking in tongues, and it is our pattern seeking brains that try to make sense of it.

Argument ad lingua?

Henry

  
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