Joined: Feb. 2009
|Quote (cdanner @ Mar. 24 2010,16:55)|
As almost all the creationists I've met so far are cowards, there are few to talk to about creationism. Are you different? Would you like to present evidence FOR Creation? If so, you've find a group here that would love to discuss it with you. Now, if you run into "obstinate people" when trying to get your point across, hey, that is science. If you've ever read the sniping between Gould and I forget the other "evolutionist" over "Punctuated Equilibrium", and these two were/are convinced that "Evolution is a fact", you'll see what I mean.
|Quote (cdanner]It truly is fascinating to read the majority of these posts trashing a person that many of you have never met.[/quote]I've never met Charles Manson either. After reading the good Dr.Dr.'s writing @ essentially that if he finds data that goes against his religious beliefs, he ignores that data as to him, "obviously it's wrong".[quote=cdanner)|
|Is this how you discuss and display your understanding of creation and evolution?|
Nope. Why what did you think are no-nos? God? Which one? Faith? I have faith I will make it to Friday without killing anyone. Yeah, we know those words.
|Quote (cdanner]Frankly @ if I were one to be torn away from being a follower of Christ because of these entries, I wouldn’t have much faith in God, would I.[/quote)|
|Your faith is no concern of anyone's unless it's your Dogma that gets in the way of evidence and facts.[quote=cdanner]Oh my goodness, I said several words that are no-nos, didn’t I.|
Nope. Science has nothing to say about Christianity. Also, which version of Christianity are you talking about Roman Catholicism, Amish, Mainline Protestant (which sect?), etc are you talking about?
|Quote (cdanner]Well @ let’s all have a little faith in something, shall we.[/quote)|
|I do. It usually concerns how good the Bass is going to taste, and I ain't talking fish.[quote=cdanner]After all, it is both faith in God and faith in one’s fellow human beings that allow science and Christianity to stand together, right?|
Not at all. I don't care which god, goddess or gods you follow. When you say for certainty that your god is "the real one" and that your book of antiquity describing the supposed actions of bronze aged shepherds and that is scientific, I mock you. After all, do you take the Vedic seriously? What about the Q'ran? No to both? Any other holy book do you think is correct? If not, why should we take your god and holy book seriously
|Quote (cdanner]I mean @ does trashing an honest man such as Dr. Dembski display the faith we all have in common?[/quote)|
|Nope. I would like to read how you think it does.[quote=cdanner]You disparage his beliefs (and mine) simply because you disagree with Christianity in general.|
Sounds like love or infatuation, not science.
|Quote (cdanner]Yet @ I have no desire to belittle or ridicule many of your posts.[/quote)|
|Please do. If you find stupidity in mine, let me know! Granted I may not see it that way but if your argument is good and sound, I will listen to you. Please note: "Good and sound does not mean 'My god said so' cause if your god can talk to you, it can certainly talk to me.[quote=cdanner]I wonder why? Could it be that, after hearing the man speak, and looking into his eyes, and turning my preconceived notions in his direction, that he makes perfect sense?|
|Quote (cdanner]Could it be that my Creator and Redeemer leads me to truly wonder why so much venom must be spewed in one person’s direction @ simply because of dislike.[/quote)|
|I don't dislike him because of anything other than he speaks what he wants to say is the truth and closes his eyes to everything else. I my book, that's a willing lie.[quote=cdanner]OK, so after all of that rambling, what is the real issue, huh?|
Love to but Dr. Dr. does not like to debate. He does not like to have things used against him later. He makes broad pronouncements and he says, "There, that is what I mean". Many times it is ambigous, like his so called EF, that it doesn't make any sense but he doesn't come out to chat. When he does, it is so heavily moderated as to make it worthless. He's a coward who can't come out to a neutral area. He has to control the venue so he can get rid of the parts that make him look foolish.
|Quote (cdanner]Is it Christianity @ is it organized religion in general – what?[/quote)|
|It is not any religion, it is literalism and the mental gymnastics needed by "those who believe in the literal word" to maintain there delusion. OBTW, it is not just Literal Chrisitians. Hell, it ain't even about Christianity. I don't hate Christians, my wife is one. My mom and sister still try to get me to go back to church. Why would I want to hate Christians?[quote=cdanner]I mean, if you’re going to have fun verbally tearing someone apart, get down to the real issues.|
You're on one. Just ask any question. You may not like the answer but if you're open and honest, you'll be treated with respect.
|Quote (cdanner]Actually @ if you are honest about your feelings, I could bring them to Dr. Dembski’s attention, and we could actually sit down and discuss them one by one.[/quote)|
|I think he's invited here. What a better way to defend your faith than going to the "belly of the beast". No moderation, what is written is written and everyone can see it? Perhaps Dr. Dr. could be just exposed to "real scientists" and not rabble like myself. Then he can give his "thesis" a real test.[quote=cdanner]Hey, maybe we could design a forum aimed just at me, as well.|
I'm doing that now. The bal's in your court.
|Quote (cdanner]I’m relatively old @ so I really do not care what you think, other than your belief in Jesus.[/quote)|
|No belief in Jesus. I don't care what you think Jesus is or was. Most likely a composite of many holy men that wandered the area over 2000 years ago.[quote=cdanner]If, for example, you would like to talk like an adult about issues of science, organized religion, unorganized religion, or any other aspect of life that does not require trashing someone on-line while I hide behind my avatar, let me know, and we certainly will talk.|
Allah Akbar or May Cthulhu eat you first to save you from madness.
|Quote (cdanner]Otherwise @ I try to be a good steward of my time, so thank you for the opportunity to speak.[/quote)|
|Nobody is stopping you.[quote=cdanner]God bless you all.|
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