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The Ghost of Paley



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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 25 2005,06:02   

....Nicky, on your promotion to head barker. I knew you had it in you as soon as I saw this wonderful, masterful, lunatic cakewalk of evo storybooking. I never thought you guys would ever find someone who could avoid the sterno long enough to crayon a coherent rebuttal to anyone, and personally, even I had my doubts at first, what with the sloppy glue-jobs you would earnestly present to the ARN, but you've come a long way, even if your magnum opus is padded with the detritus of failed guesswork and gyrates about its sham phylogeny like a child's dreidel. Shin, Hey, Gimel, Nun, indeed. You are truly the gleam in an old tart's eye, the shining spittle that guides the evos through the dank corridors of their troubled mind. Keep the good work up, and you just might get a job shining the Master's shoes, or even provide your special brand of Pub-Med carpet bombing to wear down Eugenie's Kids.

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Pastor Bentonit



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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 25 2005,11:44   

Seriously, first Evo gets (himself) banned, now "TGoP" starts flinging f3c3s...admittedly, he is (still) a bit more coherent than Evo was. Now, who said it would be even possible to discern a creationist from a parody?  :D  :D

  
ericmurphy



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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 26 2005,13:54   

Quote (Pastor Bentonit @ Oct. 25 2005,16:44)
Seriously, first Evo gets (himself) banned, now "TGoP" starts flinging f3c3s...admittedly, he is (still) a bit more coherent than Evo was. Now, who said it would be even possible to discern a creationist from a parody?  :D  :D

Evopeach actually got himself banned? What was the final straw? I thought he was just getting tired of not making any headway with us idiots and morons...

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FishyFred



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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 26 2005,17:31   

I want him backkkk! WAHHHHHHHHHH

    
Henry J



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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 27 2005,04:03   

Could somebody get a copy of "Eliza" to fill in for him? ;)

(Did I say that?) :0

  
Pastor Bentonit



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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 27 2005,19:59   

There´s this "Gary Mac" character over at Panda´s Thumb (the Kitzmiller vs Dover thread). It may, for all I know - or care - be the same person. Expect f3c3s-flinging to assume shortly.  :D

  
The Ghost of Paley



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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 28 2005,04:03   

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I want him backkkk! WAHHHHHHHHHH

 Don't worry, I'm sure your comfort troll will assume a new identity and log in again. Then you'll never have to deal with an argument you can't handle again.
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Could somebody get a copy of "Eliza" to fill in for him?

 Perhaps, but to fill the time, why not read this? Then maybe you won't get skinned so bad in the future.

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The Ghost of Paley



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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 28 2005,09:13   

"Oh butterscotch! This Paley guy knows biology, philosophy, history, psychology; he expresses himself well, doesn't fall for our usual tests and psi-wars, stays on topic, rubs our noses in our boo-boos, knows and throws our own sources back at us, shows us stuff we never knew; and worstest of all no matter how we try we just can't ignore him - the lurkers are even catching on! Mr Dawkins you said you said all fundies were dumb n' nuts so why so why THISCANTHAPPENWEHAVELOTSOFDEGREESJUSTLOOKATTHEMSTACKEDINROWSCOLUMNSTOTHECUSPOFINFINITYANDB

ACKFORANOTHERRIDEONTHEMERRYGOROUNDSEEI
TWASNOTINVAINBADTALKINGMAN!!!!!!!
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ericmurphy



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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 28 2005,12:48   

Quote (The Ghost of Paley @ Oct. 28 2005,14:13)
"Oh butterscotch! This Paley guy knows biology, philosophy, history, psychology; he expresses himself well...

Bill,

Do you imagine that you know enough about, say, M-Theory to decide whether or not the theory is an accurate description of experience? No?

Then why do you imagine you know enough about evolutionary theory to decide whether or not it is an accurate description of experience? It's not immediately obvious that biology is a less complex subject than physics is.

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rimby



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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 30 2005,05:40   

Ghost of Paley
From the book blurb:
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Once you've mastered the basic elements of a winning poker formula, psychology becomes the key ingredient in separating break-even players from players who win consistently...

You don't figure out how nature works by psyching out your "opponents". You seem to know a lot of stuff ... but you don't know what science is.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 31 2005,06:48   

Quote (The Ghost of Paley @ Oct. 28 2005,14:13)
"Oh butterscotch! This Paley guy knows biology, philosophy, history, psychology; he expresses himself well, doesn't fall for our usual tests and psi-wars, stays on topic, rubs our noses in our boo-boos, knows and throws our own sources back at us, shows us stuff we never knew; and worstest of all no matter how we try we just can't ignore him - the lurkers are even catching on! Mr Dawkins you said you said all fundies were dumb n' nuts so why so why THISCANTHAPPENWEHAVELOTSOFDEGREESJUSTLOOKATTHEMSTACKEDINROWSCOLUMNSTOTHECUSPOFINFINITYANDB


ACKFORANOTHERRIDEONTHEMERRYGOROUNDSEEI
TWASNOTINVAINBADTALKINGMAN!!!!!!!
"

Yes, but his is so easily convinced by the Moon Landings Hoax.

It proves that you pick and choose what you wish to believe as fact.

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Ved



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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 31 2005,08:30   

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...shows us stuff we never knew...

Oh yes, thank you so much, Mr Paley, for opening my eyes to such new and wonderous things. I never would have found this without you:


Tree of Life

  
The Ghost of Paley



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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 01 2005,07:43   

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Oh yes, thank you so much, Mr Paley, for opening my eyes to such new and wonderous things. I never would have found this without you:

 You're welcome. In fact, this may be the best phylogenetic tree ever presented.

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The Ghost of Paley



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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 02 2005,13:51   

It's nice to finally see a consistent, well-supported tree on Panda's Thumb.

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ericmurphy



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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 02 2005,16:42   

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It's nice to finally see a consistent, well-supported tree on Panda's Thumb.

So you must think the ten thousand or so scientists who have contributed to this tree were smoking, crack, then?

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The Ghost of Paley



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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 03 2005,14:13   

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So you must think the ten thousand or so scientists who have contributed to this tree were smoking, crack, then?

Naaah, given normal growth on the evo slush fund, they can do the powder. Off a failing coed's bottom, of course.....

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ericmurphy



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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 03 2005,14:28   

Quote (The Ghost of Paley @ Nov. 03 2005,20:13)
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So you must think the ten thousand or so scientists who have contributed to this tree were smoking, crack, then?

Naaah, given normal growth on the evo slush fund, they can do the powder. Off a failing coed's bottom, of course.....

Which doesn't really answer the question. So let me rephrase: you think the phylogenetic tree as described on the Tree of Life webpage bears no resemblance to reality. T or F?

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The Ghost of Paley



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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 03 2005,14:35   

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Which doesn't really answer the question. So let me rephrase: you think the phylogenetic tree as described on the Tree of Life webpage bears no resemblance to reality. T or F?

Objection! Asked and answered! But again, T, with a few minor reservations.

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Tom Ames



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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 04 2005,06:36   

Quote (The Ghost of Paley @ Oct. 25 2005,09:02)
....Nicky, on your promotion to head barker. I knew you had it in you as soon as I saw this wonderful, masterful, lunatic cakewalk of evo storybooking. I never thought you guys would ever find someone who could avoid the sterno long enough to crayon a coherent rebuttal to anyone, and personally, even I had my doubts at first, what with the sloppy glue-jobs you would earnestly present to the ARN, but you've come a long way, even if your magnum opus is padded with the detritus of failed guesswork and gyrates about its sham phylogeny like a child's dreidel. Shin, Hey, Gimel, Nun, indeed. You are truly the gleam in an old tart's eye, the shining spittle that guides the evos through the dank corridors of their troubled mind. Keep the good work up, and you just might get a job shining the Master's shoes, or even provide your special brand of Pub-Med carpet bombing to wear down Eugenie's Kids.

What an ugly, smug, glib and self-satisfied person this "Ghost of Paley" is.

Must be either Dembski or Berlinski.

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ericmurphy



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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 04 2005,08:30   

Quote (The Ghost of Paley @ Nov. 03 2005,20:35)
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Which doesn't really answer the question. So let me rephrase: you think the phylogenetic tree as described on the Tree of Life webpage bears no resemblance to reality. T or F?

Objection! Asked and answered! But again, T, with a few minor reservations.

Why?

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The Ghost of Paley



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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 04 2005,09:10   

Tom Ames belched:
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What an ugly, smug, glib and self-satisfied person this "Ghost of Paley" is.

Must be either Dembski or Berlinski.


Wow, you guys can be really mean sometimes. And until you can refute their arguments, Tommy, please refer to the Big D and B as Wizard and Master, respectively. :D

"Matlock" Murphy wrote:

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Why?

Why not?

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Tom Ames



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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 04 2005,10:02   

Quote (The Ghost of Paley @ Nov. 04 2005,13:10)
Tom Ames belched:
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What an ugly, smug, glib and self-satisfied person this "Ghost of Paley" is.

Must be either Dembski or Berlinski.


Wow, you guys can be really mean sometimes. And until you can refute their arguments, Tommy, please refer to the Big D and B as Wizard and Master, respectively. :D

"Matlock" Murphy wrote:

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Why?

Why not?

I take it back. Dembski and Berlinski may not be as smart as they think they are, but they are at least  fairly bright.

Paley's Ghost must therefore be Davison.

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Ved



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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 04 2005,10:38   

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Paley's Ghost must therefore be Davison.

Ugh. Worst Doctor Who, evar.

  
ericmurphy



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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 04 2005,19:09   

Quote (The Ghost of Paley @ Nov. 04 2005,15:10)
Why not?

Fair enough.

People who are of a certain, shall we say, religious bent, often ask, why is there a universe? Isn't the mere existence of the universe a powerful argument for the existence of God? Isn't God the answer to the question, "Why does the universe exist?"

I disagree. I think the answer is, "Why not"?

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Dean Morrison



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 18 2005,11:44   

Whiter Shade of Paley a bit lost without the old 'Wizard' and 'Master' then?

  
The Ghost of Paley



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 30 2005,04:56   

See the previous post. This is just a taste of what's in store for suspected thought criminals in our brave new world. Don't say I didn't warn ya.

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Dean Morrison



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 30 2005,13:51   

Just because I ridicule you and hold nothing but contempt for your your racist views Whiter Shade of Paley; doesn't really justify your persecution complex old chap!
Cheer up! - perhaps Demski and Behe have got a bombshell piece of research straight from the lab just ready to prove that you and the Bible were right all along....

Wake me up when they're ready.........

  
Julie Stahlhut



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 01 2006,13:55   

Hey, can somebody point me at this "evo slush fund" I keep hearing about?  Or do you have to get past the postdoc stage to be taught the secret handshake?  I could use some additional money for my research.  A zillionth of a squillionth of the cost of one day of war would go a long way!

  
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