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Wesley R. Elsberry



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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 15 2006,20:43   

The new server box is being assembled. Components include an Intel Core2Duo 2.4 GHz CPU, 4 GB of PC6400 DDR2 800MHz RAM, and two 250 GB SATA drives. Reed and I are planning the changeover for this weekend.

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stevestory



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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 15 2006,22:03   

Quote (deadman_932 @ Nov. 10 2006,13:40)
steve:  what's the progress on obtaining a new server or at least a good used one? The levels of problems with this board are unlike any other site that I visit.

Cache-clearing, changing IP's using proxies or whatever seem to "help" a bit, but...this is pretty bad.

Oh, and I did donate 50 bucks towards a new server, so I'm not *just* complaining, although I like doing that. And another thing, why isn't this place cleaned up yet? Clothes all over the place, empty booze bottles, pizza boxes, ####. It's like carnival workers lived here.

Steve: wakes up dead, on his horse: C&^%suckers!

No, sorry, DVD's of Deadwood notwithstanding, the servers here are maintained by Wesley Elsberry and Reed Cartwright. They are doing their level best, despite the huge problems connecting with this site. Some kinda problem laid in about July and ain't resolved itself since then. I trust in those which maintain the servers, despite my gripes.

   
Steviepinhead



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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 16 2006,16:10   

Thanks, guys!  All efforts to better the situation are appreciated.

Hope the transition this weekend goes as smoothly as such things ever do, heh heh, and I'll keep my fingers crossed that things actually improve.

Dang!  Almost forgot to take that pizza box with me.  Again...

  
Henry J



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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 16 2006,16:51   

Looks like the PT thread chapter 3 has been targetted by pest(s).

  
Lou FCD



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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 19 2006,08:07   

Wow, is the new server up and running now? ... because this place (and PT, too) is F'ing ROCKIN'.

It hasn't even thought about balking this morning.

('Course it's Sunday morning, but still it's quick, slick, and something else that should rhyme with quick, but I can't think of nuthin.)

Anyways, I know y'all probably always hear the bad stuff, I thought you should hear an "Attaboy".

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Wesley R. Elsberry



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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 20 2006,00:32   

The planned complete switchover, unfortunately, had to be postponed. The gear I got didn't play nice with FreeBSD, so I had to return it.

I did, however, get 2 GB of the fastest memory that would work in the current system and put that in. That happened later in the day, though.

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Richardthughes



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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 20 2006,01:00   

You should set a paypal for donations. I'm good for it. Just don't splurge it on copies of "Of pandas and people".

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Wesley R. Elsberry



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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 20 2006,01:07   

Donate via PayPal to the TalkOrigins Archive Foundation

This link is found on the TOA front page (text: "Make a Donation") and on the PT front page (in the "Information" box on the right sidebar, text: "    * Support PT: Donate to the TalkOrigins Archive Foundation").

Is there something that should be done to make those more visible?

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Richardthughes



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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 20 2006,01:22   

Just sent a little something.

Its a tough call with regard to visability. You want it to be an option, but not to feel like begging. A subtle 'contribute' link or somesuch?

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"You magnificent bastard! " : Louis
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deadman_932



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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 20 2006,14:19   

The new memory seems to have done the trick for the most part, El Jefe Elsberry. Cheers!

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Steviepinhead



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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 20 2006,14:29   

Things were working slick for a while on the PT site.

But now we're back to "Can't be found."  Sigh.  Still seems better overall, time-averaged, than a week ago...

  
Arden Chatfield



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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 21 2006,13:32   

As of yesterday afternoon, it was no better. I had at least 4 times where ATBC wouldn't load, once where it wouldn't load for more than 5 minutes. I don't see that the new memory did much.

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Steviepinhead



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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 21 2006,14:24   

Well, the new memory is apparently just a band-aid.  Both PT and AtBC remain hard to access, but at least once you get on them, commenting isn't nearly the pain it was getting to be (not saying it's smooth as silk, either, but comments can generally be previewed and posted...).

Once you can get the site to load in the first place, which seems to be running about 60%.

On a good day.

  
Lou FCD



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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 22 2006,22:26   

Yeah, I guess I had on my Sunday Morning Rose Colored Glasses.

I'll be chippin' in.  It's still choking, but not nearly as much as before.  That's somethin'.

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MidnightVoice



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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 26 2006,16:17   

Quote (Richardthughes @ Nov. 20 2006,01:22)
Just sent a little something.

Its a tough call with regard to visability. You want it to be an option, but not to feel like begging. A subtle 'contribute' link or somesuch?

What I do is keep bringing up the subject  :D

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Russell



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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 27 2006,07:43   

A few technical questions I can't believe I haven't gotten around to figuring out:

(1) How do people get their quote-boxes to include the source in the heading, like this:  
Quote
Quote (Richardthughes @ Nov. 20 2006,01:22)


(2) What does the iB Code Button marked "Code" at the top of the "Reply" box do?

(3) What does the _@ Code button do?

(4) How do you use fonts other than with the [b], [i], and [U] options?

(5) How do people get bullet-point lists to appear as bullet-point lists?

(6) How should I have learned all this stuff by myself, and, once I know the answer to that, will I find a wealth of other dazzling cyber-wizardry with which to win friends and influence my uncle?

-Russell, an old fart for whom all this new-fangled technology just moves too fast.

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steve_h



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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 27 2006,18:42   

Quote (Russell @ Nov. 27 2006,14:43)
A few technical questions I can't believe I haven't gotten around to figuring out:
Method 1.
(1) How do people get their quote-boxes to include the source in the heading, like this:            
Quote
Quote (Richardthughes @ Nov. 20 2006,01:22)


1a. Use the "quote" button, shown at the top-right of every comment, to quote an entire post.
1b. Enter some text in the first window, cut bits from the quote which you don't want  in the second window.
1c. Preview - you see a preview of your post. The first window is now modified to include the quoted text in quote tags. You can now proceed exactly as if you'd entered the quote using method 2. Normally I preview again at this point.
Method 2.
2. and/or enter quoted text between
Code Sample
[quote=x,y] blah blah blah[/quote]

where x is normally the poster name, and y the date. You can write anything in place of x and y but they must be seperated by a comma.  (see page one of this thread for some convoluted examples).
     
Quote (Russell @ Nov. 27 2006,14:43)


(2) What does the iB Code Button marked "Code" at the top of the "Reply" box do?

It does the same as the "permalink" link. It gives you a way to provide a link to an individual comment which you can, for example, post to interested others. To use it, click on the icon, and then copy the link from the address bar of your browser. That was completely wrong. It lets you write code segments which are pretty much taken exactly as you type them. The first time you press it, a code tag is added at the end of the input box. You then enter your code sample and then press the code button a second time to generate a closing tag.  For example, I use a code segments below to show how to use EMAIL tags.   
Quote (Russell @ Nov. 27 2006,14:43)

(3) What does the _@ Code button do?

It asks you for an email address. The email address will be displayed an an email link by dressing it up with bb stuff which eventually gets replaced by html stuff. The stuff gets written at the end of the input area, not at the current cursor position so you may have to cut and paste. Alternatively click not the button but enter
Code Sample
[email]email@xxx.com[/email]
instead.      
Quote (Russell @ Nov. 27 2006,14:43)


(4) How do you use fonts other than with the [b], [i], and [U] options?

(5) How do people get bullet-point lists to appear as bullet-point lists?

(6) How should I have learned all this stuff by myself, and, once I know the answer to that, will I find a wealth of other dazzling cyber-wizardry with which to win friends and influence my uncle?

I don't know if 4 & 5 are possible. Answers to 1,2, and 3 have so far proved dissapointing in regards to improving wealth and influence
   
Quote (Russell @ Nov. 27 2006,14:43)


-Russell, an old fart for whom all this new-fangled technology just moves too fast.


edit: the bit about CODE was completely wrong.

  
steve_h



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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 27 2006,18:52   

Using guesswork and preview
Code Sample

[*] point 1
[*] point 2

  • point 1
  • point 2

    I couldn't get level 2 items using
    Code Sample
    [**]


    Wesley, what software are you using? Is there a  version freely available for inspection somewhere?

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    steve_h



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    (Permalink) Posted: Nov. 27 2006,19:00   

    I don't know about using other fonts etc, but if you see any examples (which I haven't), you could always try using the "quote" button to see how the original poster did it.

    (edit) However the "posting abilities" section suggests that some users (Wes, Steve Story) could be entering plain HTML which would give them full control over the appearence of thier posts (boo hiss etc). (/edit)

      
    Wesley R. Elsberry



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    (Permalink) Posted: Nov. 30 2006,22:43   

    IkonBoard 3.02a is the version of the software running. It was freely available, though I don't know where you would find a zip or tar file of it now.

    No, at least I don't use any special HTML for my own posts. I don't think that anyone else here is able to do so, either. The iB code stuff is very much similar to UBB code, which many people have experience with.

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    stevestory



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    (Permalink) Posted: Nov. 30 2006,23:07   

    Quote (steve_h @ Nov. 27 2006,20:00)
    I don't know about using other fonts etc, but if you see any examples (which I haven't), you could always try using the "quote" button to see how the original poster did it.

    (edit) However the "posting abilities" section suggests that some users (Wes, Steve Story) could be entering plain HTML which would give them full control over the appearence of thier posts (boo hiss etc). (/edit)

    Actually, I enter my posts using Assembly Code. That gives me Total Control, NOOB!

    (not really)

       
    steve_h



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    (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 01 2006,13:03   

    I found a ib301.zip by guessing at filenames:
    A list
    • one
    • two
      • 2a
      • 2b

    red otherBig
    non-proportional font
    MMMMMMMMMM.  Thanks for the correction, Scary

    Code Sample
    A list[list][*] one [*] two [list] [*]2a [*] 2b [/list][/list]
    [color=red]red[/color] [color=#00FFCC]other[/color][size=12]Big[/size]
    [font=courier]non-proportional font
    MMMMMMMMMM.  Thanks for the correction, Scary.[/font]


    Comic sans
    Edit: corrected font name as per the following post.

      
    ScaryFacts



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    (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 01 2006,18:15   

    Very helpful post--one minor correction on non-proportional fonts...

    I think you had a typo in the font name--courier.

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    Wesley R. Elsberry



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    (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 05 2006,08:31   

    My weblog got SlashDotted yesterday, with over 8,000 page hits logged. How bad did access here get for people yesterday, compared to other recent days?

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    stevestory



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    (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 05 2006,13:33   

    Quote (Wesley R. Elsberry @ Dec. 05 2006,09:31)
    My weblog got SlashDotted yesterday, with over 8,000 page hits logged. How bad did access here get for people yesterday, compared to other recent days?

    not much worse than normal. One or two hours where it was totally unreachable.

       
    Alan Fox



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    (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 12 2006,11:24   

    The AE server is still very slow to respond. I am currently being rationed on my blogging by my wife and an egg-timer. It is very frustrating to watch the minutes tick by waiting for a page to update.

      
    Wesley R. Elsberry



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    (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 20 2006,02:10   

    We switched to a new connection a couple of hours ago. We should have more bandwidth to play with.

    I also have an order in on a server box. It may take a while to get it, install software, and ship it. I'll keep you posted.

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    ericmurphy



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    (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 20 2006,10:52   

    Once I flushed my DNS cache, things seem to work pretty well. Pages definitely seem to load faster, and (fingers crossed) I haven't had a page timeout yet.

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    (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 20 2006,11:59   

    For some reason, I have NOT been able to get into ATBC with my laptop airport DSL connection all day (or PT, for that matter), and I've tried over a dozen times. I don't know why, but I CAN log on using my main, slower, non-airport connection computer. WTF?

    Either way, for me personally, my ability to use this site is REALLY bad today.

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    ericmurphy



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    (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 20 2006,12:19   

    Quote (Arden Chatfield @ Dec. 20 2006,11:59)
    For some reason, I have NOT been able to get into ATBC with my laptop airport DSL connection all day (or PT, for that matter), and I've tried over a dozen times. I don't know why, but I CAN log on using my main, slower, non-airport connection computer. WTF?

    Either way, for me personally, my ability to use this site is REALLY bad today.

    Interesting; this site has gone from being one of the slowest-loading to one of the fastest overnight. Thanks Wes! And whoever your new ISP is.

    If you're using OS X, I'm thinking the problem with your laptop is you need to refresh your DNS cash. If you're logged in as an administrator, type

    sudo lookupd -flushcache

    then enter your admin password when prompted. If you're not logged in as an admin, su to an admin account, then type in the above command.

    If you're using Windows, the command is ipconfig /flushdns



    That will flush the DNS cache and you should be able to connect.

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