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|Quote (Jkrebs @ Feb. 27 2012,04:55)|
|Barry parenthetically added, on the rape thread, "or, like Jack, try to change the subject", but there is no Jack that has posted in the thread. Any idea what this is about? Did someone post and then get unposted???|
This is a copy of the post that was deleted:
February 26, 2012 at 9:02 pm
Barry Arrington: "johnnyb, actually, I think I will stick with my chimp example. Over and over again we hear from Darwinists that chimps and humans share 98% of their genes. I think there are good reasons to doubt that factoid, but I am willing to assume it arguendo for purposes of this post. In fact, it actually serves my purpose. If a Darwinist agrees that the chimp is not morally culpable to force sex on an unwilling female but the human is, I want them to tell me what, exactly, in that 2% accounts for the different result.
To the Darwinists: This post has been up several hours. Are you unwilling — or just unable — to engage with us? Nick, I know you’ve been here while the post has been up. Why are you refusing to engage?"
Mr. Arrington, I’m not a Darwinist but I think it is strange that you would wonder why Darwinists are “refusing to engage” you when you recently banned most of the people whom you would describe as Darwinists and materialists.
Regarding your rape topic: The word rape is something that humans apply to humans who have non-consensual sex with another human, and statutory rape deals with sex with people who have not reached the age of consent. None of that applies to animals.
It’s not the genetic difference between chimps and humans that matters, regarding rape. It’s the culture of humans, which includes laws, that matters. Chimps are unaware of laws and their culture is not as sophisticated as that of humans. Some people ignore the unacceptability and illegality of rape within their culture and some cultures either condone rape or don’t find it very abhorrent. I really don’t see what point you’re trying to make except to demonize the people you refer to as Darwinists and materialists.
How do you feel about the following?
2 Samuel 12:11-14
And what do you think of the rampant child rape within the Catholic Church, and of rape and other atrocities within other churches and religious groups?
I’m also curious as to what this topic has to do with science and ID?
From what I’ve read on this website it seems likely that I will be accused of being an amoral materialist, so I’ll inform you now that I am a Christian Pastor. I am intrigued by the concept of ID as a scientific concept and came here to learn more about it, but I am very disappointed by what I see here. I seriously doubt that you ID proponents will make any headway in advancing ID as a plausible scientific theory by preaching hypocritical fire and brimstone against people you see as enemies of your religion. It hurts me to see people who call themselves Christians behaving in such a non-Christian way and being so anxious to accuse others of amoral and illegal acts whether they are guilty of those acts or not. I will pray for you and ask The Lord to show you more forgiveness and mercy than you’re willing to give. I strongly suggest that all of you seek a Pastor who can help guide you toward a more positive, honest, and truly Christian life.
Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. - Jesus in Matthew 10:34
But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me. -Jesus in Luke 19:27