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KCdgw



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 26 2014,13:57   

Quote (Amadan @ Mar. 26 2014,07:12)
Quote (stevestory @ Mar. 25 2014,18:05)
O'Leary has a way to end all this Origin of Life science bullcrap.

Her genius idea is to try to create life in the laboratory. Then, see, when we find that the only way we can, is with a lot of human intervention and conditions unlike the early earth, we'll know life couldn't have come about naturally!

That woman's some kinda Einstein.

Take the materialist idea that 1 + 1 = 2:

Until someone counts all the 1s in the universe, how can they be sure this is true?

Well, smarty-pants Darwinists?


(Whatever about 1s, there's a fair collection of No. 2s over at UD that someone could get started on.)

How do you know it's the right "2"?

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rossum



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 26 2014,15:24   

Quote (KCdgw @ Mar. 26 2014,13:57)
How do you know it's the right "2"?

You don't.  But there will be a new 'Number Two' in the next episode.

"You are Number Six..."

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stevestory



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 26 2014,17:42   

Quote (Zachriel @ Mar. 26 2014,09:53)
Quote (stevestory @ Mar. 25 2014,12:05)
O'Leary has a way to end all this Origin of Life science bullcrap.

Her genius idea is to try to create life in the laboratory. Then, see, when we find that the only way we can, is with a lot of human intervention and conditions unlike the early earth, we'll know life couldn't have come about naturally!

That woman's some kinda Einstein.

Proof wind is intelligently designed:


lol

   
The whole truth



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 27 2014,01:31   

I tried to post this in the Bathroom Wall thread but it wouldn't let me. Oh well, it fits here too since the IDiots are eager to have creationism taught in schools and paid for by all taxpayers (even though they often dishonestly claim otherwise).

http://rt.com/usa....ols-957

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Quack



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 27 2014,02:16   

Quote (The whole truth @ Mar. 27 2014,01:31)
I tried to post this in the Bathroom Wall thread but it wouldn't let me. Oh well, it fits here too since the IDiots are eager to have creationism taught in schools and paid for by all taxpayers (even though they often dishonestly claim otherwise).

http://rt.com/usa........ols-957

I don't know if I can take it much longer; first Crimea, now this.

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Bob O'H



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 27 2014,04:23   

Denyse has a post up about a paper being retracted, with the title "Entomologist surprised his name is included in a retracted anti-Darwin paper". Unsurprisingly she fails to comment on the dis-honesty of the creationist who put Michener's name on the paper.

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Learned Hand



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 27 2014,08:54   

I think that's what they call a "typical turnabout accusation," with a side of straw man dipped in the oil of red herring and set alight with the flame of persecution.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 27 2014,09:04   

Quote (Learned Hand @ Mar. 27 2014,16:54)
I think that's what they call a "typical turnabout accusation," with a side of straw man dipped in the oil of red herring and set alight with the flame of persecution.

If it walks like a canard and talks like a canard its a canard.

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Learned Hand



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 27 2014,11:06   

Now you're just ducking the issue.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 27 2014,11:20   

Quote (Learned Hand @ Mar. 27 2014,17:06)
Now you're just ducking the issue.

There's a joke in there somewhere about the bill, but I can't be bothered to think of it.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 27 2014,13:14   

Quote (damitall @ Mar. 27 2014,11:20)
Quote (Learned Hand @ Mar. 27 2014,17:06)
Now you're just ducking the issue.

There's a joke in there somewhere about the bill, but I can't be bothered to think of it.

How do you make a duck into a great soul singer?



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Put him in the microwave until his bill whithers.

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tsig



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 28 2014,11:47   

Quote (Bob O'H @ Mar. 26 2014,04:32)
Quote (midwifetoad @ Mar. 25 2014,15:11)
Quote (Glen Davidson @ Mar. 25 2014,14:58)
Scord:

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Vodka! Cosmologists Say Last Weeks Announcement About Inflation May Be Wrong now my turn!


Since when did Sal take turns being wrong?

Glen Davidson

 
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Here is the great galaxy in Andromeda. Does that look like a single star in the middle surrounded by a cloud of debris and gas, or is it billions and billions of stars with a whole bunch packed in the middle?


Sal does not take turns Sal is not even a stopped clock.

Andromeda may or may not look like a single star, but that's just a distraction and an ad hominem wrapped up in an oil soaked red herring (did I get that right?). The important question is - does it look designed?

Of course it's designed we even have the blueprint, The Bible.

Checkmate Atheists.

  
tsig



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 28 2014,11:50   

Quote (damitall @ Mar. 27 2014,11:20)
Quote (Learned Hand @ Mar. 27 2014,17:06)
Now you're just ducking the issue.

There's a joke in there somewhere about the bill, but I can't be bothered to think of it.

Are you trying to float a note?

  
Henry J



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 28 2014,22:28   

Quote (damitall @ Mar. 27 2014,10:20)
Quote (Learned Hand @ Mar. 27 2014,17:06)
Now you're just ducking the issue.

There's a joke in there somewhere about the bill, but I can't be bothered to think of it.

Somebody's quacking up?

(Or is that too Daffy?)

  
sparc



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 28 2014,22:43   

Quote (Henry J @ Mar. 28 2014,22:28)
Quote (damitall @ Mar. 27 2014,10:20)
Quote (Learned Hand @ Mar. 27 2014,17:06)
Now you're just ducking the issue.

There's a joke in there somewhere about the bill, but I can't be bothered to think of it.

Somebody's quacking up?

(Or is that too Daffy?)

Ente gut, alles gut!

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sparc



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 28 2014,23:12   

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9 Robert Byers March 28, 2014 at 8:05 pm
The bible is a witness in good standing until proven otherwise. Just like in court.
So the ark story is true. they even make movies about it and movies are true
they tell us otherwise there would not be the idea about movies documenting this or that cause or identity as a important thing.

If I had been aware of this fact I would have repented years before. On second thougt it may well be that Bob is just pissing off BA77.

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Henry J



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 29 2014,13:08   

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they even make movies about it and movies are true

Has that guy seen History of the World, Part 1?

Henry

  
sparc



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 29 2014,14:03   

Talking about the movies: Granville Sewel has yet another movie on his struggle with the 2LOT.
ETA: Comments off to keep scordova out

Edited by sparc on Mar. 29 2014,14:05

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"[...] the type of information we find in living systems is beyond the creative means of purely material processes [...] Who or what is such an ultimate source of information? [...] from a theistic perspective, such an information source would presumably have to be God."

- William Dembski -

   
Ptaylor



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 30 2014,17:47   

Commenters AVS and okfanrific have been having fun on the 'Fisking a Biochemist...' comments section, getting regulars such as Uptighty, Querius and, of course Joe really riled up. At present AVS has announced his/her departure, which gets this response from Joe:
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Goodbye dork

AVS:
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You being some type of moderator, or whatever your title is here at UD, speaks volumes for the site itself.
What a fucking joke.

UD link
Heh

Update before posting: Barry has deleted the comment and closed comments.New UD link

Edited by Ptaylor on Mar. 31 2014,11:06

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(Permalink) Posted: April 01 2014,05:02   

It'a April 1st, isn't it? Well, on UD, Denyse has put up links to another of her websites. In it she's placed these links:
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Turn writing woes into punchy prose I
Turn writing woes into punchy prose II

having carefully put them on an obscure blog that we won't have noticed until now.

Well played, Denyse, well played.

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Driver



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(Permalink) Posted: April 01 2014,12:08   

More from punchy writer and serial science article poster, Denyse O'Leary:

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The wonderful thing about science is the way it promotes somnolent faith that the System is somehow churning out what is that stuff its churning out just now anyway?


Clearly she is planning to embed the famous Monty Python sketch from "Life Of Brian" in a later post.

Well played indeed.

ETA: link

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CeilingCat



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(Permalink) Posted: April 01 2014,19:56   

Quote (Bob O'H @ April 01 2014,05:02)
It'a April 1st, isn't it? Well, on UD, Denyse has put up links to another of her websites. In it she's placed these links:
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Turn writing woes into punchy prose I
Turn writing woes into punchy prose II

having carefully put them on an obscure blog that we won't have noticed until now.

Well played, Denyse, well played.

A lot of Denyse's "prose" reads as if she's punchy - punchy as in the way you get when reality has hit you hard in the head too many times.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: April 02 2014,16:45   

Quote (Driver @ April 01 2014,12:08)
More from punchy writer and serial science article poster, Denyse O'Leary:

 
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The wonderful thing about science is the way it promotes somnolent faith that the System is somehow churning out what is that stuff its churning out just now anyway?


Clearly she is planning to embed the famous Monty Python sketch from "Life Of Brian" in a later post.

Well played indeed.

ETA: link

EWWWWW!

Driver - Dude!  How about a little warning - NSFB!!! (Not Safe For Brain).  I clicked on your link - expected to go to Life of Brian clip = Good.  

What I got was a link to UD = BAD!

EWWWW!

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Driver



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(Permalink) Posted: April 02 2014,17:16   

Quote (J-Dog @ April 02 2014,21:45)
Quote (Driver @ April 01 2014,12:08)
More from punchy writer and serial science article poster, Denyse O'Leary:

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The wonderful thing about science is the way it promotes somnolent faith that the System is somehow churning out what is that stuff its churning out just now anyway?


Clearly she is planning to embed the famous Monty Python sketch from "Life Of Brian" in a later post.

Well played indeed.

ETA: link

EWWWWW!

Driver - Dude! How about a little warning - NSFB!!! (Not Safe For Brain). I clicked on your link - expected to go to Life of Brian clip = Good.

What I got was a link to UD = BAD!

EWWWW!

Sorry. Hope this is better:

Monty Python

Bonus

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Bob O'H



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(Permalink) Posted: April 03 2014,08:32   

Can someone please tell Denyse about developmental genetics. and then explain to her that "differential gene expression between developing murine tooth types" might have something to do with DNA. And if DNA has nothing to do with tooth morphology, how does she explain the statement "Gene dosage abnormalities are likely to occur in human rare diseases presenting with a tooth family specific dental phenotype"?

*sigh*

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REC



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(Permalink) Posted: April 03 2014,11:27   

Quote (Bob O'H @ April 03 2014,08:32)
Can someone please tell Denyse about developmental genetics. and then explain to her that "differential gene expression between developing murine tooth types" might have something to do with DNA. And if DNA has nothing to do with tooth morphology, how does she explain the statement "Gene dosage abnormalities are likely to occur in human rare diseases presenting with a tooth family specific dental phenotype"?

*sigh*

So all genes have to be expressed at all times, or DNA doesn't matter? Differential gene expression in response to the environment means genes aren't in charge. Suck that Darwin lovers!

Doesn't this directly contradict their layers of information, big big # fi@sco! game?

And this isn't just a O'Learyism (though she did plug the notion that bacteria grown in wells to small to accommodate their shape as evidence of DNA not specifying "body plan"--despite that the researchers are nnnnnlooking into the roles of specific genes in these processes).

This goes all the way up to Wells:

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We have rigorous experimental evidence that DNA does not even code completely for proteins; in most cases the final forms of proteins are not fully specified by DNA sequences.


Which is kinda bizarre, no? An ounce of truth, but he cites alternative splicing (at DNA specified splice sites), protein localization (by DNA coded amino acid signal peptides), glycosylation (at specific, gene encoded glycosylation motifs on the protein). Really odd interpretation, either slimy, or blissfully unaware of the 1999 Nobel Prize, etc.

But consistent, in the UD attempt to obfuscate and delude. In the way quantum dynamics=woo magic=Jesus, they'll do it with molecular biology. Regulation=vitalism=?.

Joe takes it up a notch, in response to "amino acid sequence is completely specified by the DNA":

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The amino acid sequence doesnt make the protein.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: April 03 2014,14:38   

At ENV, Denyse inadvertently comments on her "journalistic" career:
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Well, continuing failure can undermine funding too.


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(Permalink) Posted: April 03 2014,16:31   

Quote (Driver @ April 02 2014,17:16)
Quote (J-Dog @ April 02 2014,21:45)
Quote (Driver @ April 01 2014,12:08)
More from punchy writer and serial science article poster, Denyse O'Leary:

 
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The wonderful thing about science is the way it promotes somnolent faith that the System is somehow churning out what is that stuff its churning out just now anyway?


Clearly she is planning to embed the famous Monty Python sketch from "Life Of Brian" in a later post.

Well played indeed.

ETA: link

EWWWWW!

Driver - Dude! How about a little warning - NSFB!!! (Not Safe For Brain). I clicked on your link - expected to go to Life of Brian clip = Good.

What I got was a link to UD = BAD!

EWWWW!

Sorry. Hope this is better:

Monty Python

Bonus

AHHHHHH YES!  Much better.  Gratias!

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Come on Tough Guy, do the little dance of ID impotence you do so well. - Louis to Joe G 2/10

Gullibility is not a virtue - Quidam on Dembski's belief in the Bible Code Faith Healers & ID 7/08

UD is an Unnatural Douchemagnet. - richardthughes 7/11

  
keiths



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(Permalink) Posted: April 06 2014,01:49   

A nice comment from Diogenes at Larry Moran's blog (there are lots of links in the original, but I can't be arsed to transcribe them):
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Torley is one of the smarter IDers. That's damning with faint praise, it's true.

In the infamous MathGrrl thread at Uncommon Descent, where MathGrrl asked the IDiots how to compute the change in Dembski's "Complex Specified Information" for the simplest conceivable genetic changes, Torley was the only one with the balls to actually do a computation. His math was all f*&@ed up (he thought genes were about 100,000 bps long) but at least he immediately computed that gene duplication vastly increases Dembski's "Complex Specified Information."

At least Torley, for a brief moment, conceded that natural processes can increase Dembski's CSI. Which would normally mean that ID is dead dead dead.

Then he took it back, naturally. A few days later Torley wrote another post where he basically invoked the usual ID circular-logic fraud-- since gene duplication is a natural process that increases Dembski's CSI, and that's the answer they don't want, therefore Dembski's CSI just shouldn't be computed for gene duplication events. It's like you're doing a double blind test on a pill that's said to cure cancer. Uh-oh, you find the same number of patients who took your pill got cancer as the control group. That's easy to fix-- just say the pill doesn't work on people who will later get cancer. Problem solved! Torley's take-it-back post is entitled, and I kid you not, "Why theres no such thing as a CSI Scanner." Uh-- we know why, Vince. Every time you give us a real equation for CSI, we can show by simple f&%$ing math that natural processes increase it enormously. So you damn well better not give us an equation, you ID frauds.

Torley is also unusual among IDiots in that, in the MathGrrl thread, he admitted that Dembski's CSI is based on a "probability" calculation in which the "probability" is never the actual probability of the evolutionary path under consideration, but is instead the fake probability of a totally unrelated process-- the random scrambling of all parts-- which I call the tornado probability. Dembski himself almost never admits that his CSI calculation for all natural processes is based always on tornado probability and never on the probability of real evolutionary pathways (Richard Wein got him to admit it once, sort of, but mostly Dembski obfuscates and BS's, which is one of the reasons why none of the IDiots know how to compute CSI. Dembski doesn't want them to know how.)

The other IDiots, though they brag and boast they are smarter than the world's scientists, can't do long division. Multiplication troubles almost all of them.

Look at their reaction to Larry's ultra-simplified math. Larry tried to dumb neutral evolution down to simple multiplication and IDiots like Sal Cordova can't understand the math. Of multiplication. Multi-f%^&ing-cation. It isn't even frikkin calculus. How the hell should we communicate with these people? Hand puppets? But every UDite think he's Galileo.


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Quack



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(Permalink) Posted: April 06 2014,03:01   

I love straight talk.

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