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stevestory



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(Permalink) Posted: April 05 2021,13:44   

Don’t feel bad, Steve Alten, when you can’t get KFC to understand basic ideas.

“Against stupidity the gods themselves contend in vain.”

   
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(Permalink) Posted: April 05 2021,14:43   

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Steve Alten2
April 5, 2021 at 1:20 pm
Kairosfocus, “SA2, there you go again on an irrelevancy. KF”

How is the fact that ID opponents are using logical fallacies irrelevant? And how is the fact that ID proponents are taking the bait irrelevant?

Why is it so important to you that the designs in biology be un-flawed? I think I know but I don’t want to put words in your mouth. I will leave that tactic to you.
LOL

   
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(Permalink) Posted: April 05 2021,18:57   

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Polistra
April 5, 2021 at 3:43 pm
Good interview, but I doubt that there’s any point in communicating the philosophical details. Learning happens only by experience, and everyone experiences a soul.

The problem isn’t lack of communication from our side, it’s too much communication from the satanic side. Getting people to cut loose from major media is more crucial than getting them to hear the alternative. Most people know the truth, and most people can see the truth after they disconnect the direct pipeline from Satan and remove the theory goggles.
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(Permalink) Posted: April 06 2021,18:27   

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Steve Alten2
April 6, 2021 at 5:19 pm
Viola Lee “ Hi BA. 1. I am not a materialist.”

You would think that he would catch on after the fiftieth time you told him. 🙂

Sadly, there are a few who automatically assign people to a specific category after they disagree with them on something. I guess it makes it easier to dismiss their views. It’s lazy, but if it makes them feel better with their lives. Who are we to argue.


Linky

BatShit77 is either dishonestly misrepresenting VL, or has a serious learning disability.


   
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(Permalink) Posted: April 06 2021,18:37   

BatShit77 of the Defective Commas says: (my emphasis)

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But anyways,,, interestingly, VL used the word “experientially” in his response.

I guess he wanted to sound “scientific” in his answer.


Viola is a feminine name of Italian origin.

   
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(Permalink) Posted: April 06 2021,20:05   

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Steve Alten2
April 6, 2021 at 6:57 pm
Bornagain77 “ SA2, I suggest you find someone else to troll.”

If by “troll” you mean pointing out the blatantly obvious, I plead guilty. Or do you deny that you label people as a tactic in your arguments? Before you respond, I strongly recommend that you look back over your last 100 or 200 thousand words posted. Don’t worry, you shouldn’t have to look back further that April 5th.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: April 06 2021,20:07   

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BatShit77 of the Defective Commas says: (my emphasis)

 
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But anyways,,, interestingly, VL used the word “experientially” in his response.

I guess he wanted to sound “scientific” in his answer.


Viola is a feminine name of Italian origin.

Batshitcrazy77 is over his depth trying to take on Viola Lee. She is twice as smart and ten times as adept at debating than she is.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: April 06 2021,20:18   

Holy shit. Did I just see this?
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Count Of Crisco
April 6, 2021 at 7:15 pm
I’m not sure what BA77’s background is, but she obviously doesn’t have half the intelligence, education or reasoning power that Viola Lee does. Any fool can cut-and-paste massive tracts of cherry-picked nonsense, but it takes an intelligent person, like Viola, to actually ask pertinent questions, listen to the responses, and develop an opinion, rather than selectively pick the data that supports your pre-determined opinion.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: April 06 2021,20:21   

Damn, they are just hanging up on poor Batshitcrazy77. It is only a matter of time before you goes crying to Barry asking him to purge UD of everyone who thinks he is a joke.
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Viola Lee
April 6, 2021 at 7:12 pm
In your everyday life, BA, how do you experience your understanding when you put a lamp on the table. Do you implicitly think, “The table is solid so the map will stay there,” or do you implicitly think, “The Mind of God is manifesting through a whole bunch of immaterial quantum events that keeps the lamp on the table,” or what? When you aren’t arguing philosophy, but just living, how do feel about the solidity of the table?

  
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(Permalink) Posted: April 06 2021,20:27   

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Holy shit. Did I just see this?
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Count Of Crisco
April 6, 2021 at 7:15 pm
I’m not sure what BA77’s background is, but she obviously doesn’t have half the intelligence, education or reasoning power that Viola Lee does. Any fool can cut-and-paste massive tracts of cherry-picked nonsense, but it takes an intelligent person, like Viola, to actually ask pertinent questions, listen to the responses, and develop an opinion, rather than selectively pick the data that supports your pre-determined opinion.

Holy fuckballs  :O

   
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(Permalink) Posted: April 06 2021,20:30   

I feel out of the loop lately, I know who Bob O’H is, but I don’t know the identities of JBL, Viola, Steve Alten, or Count of Crisco.

   
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(Permalink) Posted: April 06 2021,20:32   

Anybody wants to clue me in, my email address is my username here at either Gmail or protonmail, dealer’s choice.

   
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(Permalink) Posted: April 06 2021,20:53   

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Anybody wants to clue me in, my email address is my username here at either Gmail or protonmail, dealer’s choice.

Well, according to Joke, Steve Alten2 is me. And we know that he is never wrong. :)

  
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(Permalink) Posted: April 07 2021,08:01   

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Jerry
April 7, 2021 at 5:28 am
I do not read most of what BA77 writes. It’s too TLDR. But when I do, it is usually very content full and relevant.
...


LOL

Everybody knows that the sign of a great communicator is that even people who agree with you don’t want to read your shit.  :D  :p  :)

   
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(Permalink) Posted: April 07 2021,14:32   

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Jerry
April 7, 2021 at 5:28 am
I do not read most of what BA77 writes. It’s too TLDR. But when I do, it is usually very content full and relevant.
...


LOL

Everybody knows that the sign of a great communicator is that even people who agree with you don’t want to read your shit.  :D  :p  :)

That was a full-on compliment-ad-backofhand right there.

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(Permalink) Posted: April 07 2021,17:10   

An emailer tells me that they think that Viola Lee, and probably Steve and Count of Crisco, have been shadow banned by the creationist cowards. I wouldn’t be surprised.

   
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(Permalink) Posted: April 07 2021,18:20   

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An emailer tells me that they think that Viola Lee, and probably Steve and Count of Crisco, have been shadow banned by the creationist cowards. I wouldn’t be surprised.

That is hilarious. Viola Lee had to be the most reasonable person that I have seen in a long time on there. And count of crisco was barely a presence. I guess the lesson to learn is that you can’t criticize batshitcrazy77.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: April 07 2021,18:59   

Or not more than once, anyway?

  
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(Permalink) Posted: April 07 2021,19:23   

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Quote (stevestory @ April 07 2021,17:10)
An emailer tells me that they think that Viola Lee, and probably Steve and Count of Crisco, have been shadow banned by the creationist cowards. I wouldn’t be surprised.

That is hilarious. Viola Lee had to be the most reasonable person that I have seen in a long time on there. And count of crisco was barely a presence. I guess the lesson to learn is that you can’t criticize batshitcrazy77.

Couple of years ago I had a sock over there, I forget which one, and I basically told BatShit77 that while he likes to babble about QM quotes he found on the Internet, he couldn’t pass a quantum 101 test if he had a gun to his head, and about 30 minutes later my sock was deactivated.

Cancel Culture!

   
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(Permalink) Posted: April 07 2021,21:18   

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Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ April 07 2021,19:20)
Quote (stevestory @ April 07 2021,17:10)
An emailer tells me that they think that Viola Lee, and probably Steve and Count of Crisco, have been shadow banned by the creationist cowards. I wouldn’t be surprised.

That is hilarious. Viola Lee had to be the most reasonable person that I have seen in a long time on there. And count of crisco was barely a presence. I guess the lesson to learn is that you can’t criticize batshitcrazy77.

Couple of years ago I had a sock over there, I forget which one, and I basically told BatShit77 that while he likes to babble about QM quotes he found on the Internet, he couldn’t pass a quantum 101 test if he had a gun to his head, and about 30 minutes later my sock was deactivated.

Cancel Culture!

Do you think Barry ever gets sick of Batshitcrazy77 emailing him telling him that he is being picked on?

  
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(Permalink) Posted: April 08 2021,11:22   

The mystery deepens

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Viola Lee
April 8, 2021 at 10:03 am
test

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Viola Lee
April 8, 2021 at 10:03 am
Yea!. I have access again. I haven’t been able to post since Tuesday evening, but now I can, so that’s good.


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(Permalink) Posted: April 08 2021,12:30   

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The mystery deepens

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Viola Lee
April 8, 2021 at 10:03 am
test

5
Viola Lee
April 8, 2021 at 10:03 am
Yea!. I have access again. I haven’t been able to post since Tuesday evening, but now I can, so that’s good.


Linky

Temporary collateral damage.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: April 08 2021,14:36   

Strange: out of the clear blue sky Jerry dredged up an old thread with me on UD about the Kansas Science standards from 2008 or so. There's actually a good summary in the thread that he linked to of some of the issues. I am working on turning over a whole bunch of my files about the evolution wars to the Spencer Research Library at KU, so that will be useful.


And it's interesting to see that neither he nor KF have changed much.

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(Permalink) Posted: April 09 2021,12:44   

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Stephen Hawking was Sometimes Embarrassingly Stupid

Yes, yes, I grant that he was brilliant in his field of expertise, theoretical physics.  But as was recently noted in these pages, when he ventured outside of his bailiwick, he said some really boned-headed things.  Consider just one example from his book The Grand Design:  “Because there is a law such as gravity, the Read More…

Posted onApril 9, 2021 Author Barry Arrington Comments(2)


Saying stupid things when he ventured outside his bailiwick, huh? You mean like a lawyer who claims that he knows better about public health than Dr. Fauci and says that Fauci is being a fear monger and there will be far fewer deaths from Covid than deaths from the flu? You mean that kind of embarrassingly stupid comment?

Edited by stevestory on April 09 2021,13:45

   
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(Permalink) Posted: April 09 2021,12:53   

Quote (Jkrebs @ April 08 2021,12:36)
Strange: out of the clear blue sky Jerry dredged up an old thread with me on UD about the Kansas Science standards from 2008 or so. There's actually a good summary in the thread that he linked to of some of the issues. I am working on turning over a whole bunch of my files about the evolution wars to the Spencer Research Library at KU, so that will be useful.


And it's interesting to see that neither he nor KF have changed much.

Link

I recently had a similar experience about Steve Meyer and Casey Luskin

https://stonesnbones.blogspot.com/2021....nt.html
:D

   
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(Permalink) Posted: April 10 2021,09:12   

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It is time to hear the inadvertent warning in Lewontin’s 1997 NYRB review again:


Take a drink.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: April 10 2021,09:13   

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(Permalink) Posted: April 11 2021,03:58   

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Stephen Hawking was Sometimes Embarrassingly Stupid

Yes, yes, I grant that he was brilliant in his field of expertise, theoretical physics.  But as was recently noted in these pages, when he ventured outside of his bailiwick, he said some really boned-headed things.  Consider just one example from his book The Grand Design:  “Because there is a law such as gravity, the Read More…

Posted onApril 9, 2021 Author Barry Arrington Comments(2)


Saying stupid things when he ventured outside his bailiwick, huh? You mean like a lawyer who claims that he knows better about public health than Dr. Fauci and says that Fauci is being a fear monger and there will be far fewer deaths from Covid than deaths from the flu? You mean that kind of embarrassingly stupid comment?

Or even a lawyer trying to discuss quantum mechanics.

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(Permalink) Posted: April 12 2021,07:33   

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From Hugh Ross: Language involves biological fine-tuning for human exceptionalism

Ross: The human body is optimally designed for speech communication involving just a few people in a quiet setting. It also is optimally designed for what researchers call “cocktail party listening.” Cocktail party listening refers to humans gathered in a crowded situation where many people are talking simultaneously in an environment where music and other background sounds interfere with speech recognition.


Well, Hugh would know, being a highly respected linguist and anatomist and all.  ;)

Edited by stevestory on April 12 2021,08:34

   
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(Permalink) Posted: April 12 2021,08:18   

I gather that lots of other animals can pick out particular voices from among lots of background noises, too.

So that's not unique to humans.

  
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