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stevestory



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(Permalink) Posted: May 23 2020,21:01   

I was reading this earlier, and it reminded me of the idiots over at UD who think that this is just the flu.

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Melanie Montano, 32, who tested positive for Covid-19 in March, says that more than seven weeks after she first got sick, she still experiences symptoms on and off, including burning in her lungs and a dry cough.

Brennan says symptoms like that occur because “this virus creates an incredibly aggressive immune response, so spaces [in the lungs] are filled with debris and pus, making your lungs less pliable.”

On CT scans, while normal lungs appear black, Covid-19 patients’ lungs frequently have lighter gray patches, called “ground-glass opacities” — which may not heal.

One study from China found that this ground-glass appearance showed up in scans of 77 percent of Covid-19 patients. In another study out of China, published in Radiology, 66 of 70 hospitalized patients had some amount of lung damage in CT scans, and more than half had the kind of lesions that are likely to develop into scars. (A third study from China suggests this is not just for critically ill patients; its authors found that of 58 asymptomatic patients, 95 percent also had evidence of these ground-glass opacities in their lungs. More than a quarter of these individuals went on to develop symptoms within a few days.)

“These kinds of tissue changes can cause permanent damage,” says Ali Gholamrezanezhad, a radiologist at the Keck School of Medicine at the University of Southern California.


vox

   
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(Permalink) Posted: May 24 2020,18:24   

I was laughing about Bio-Craplexity on Facebook and somebody asked for a link and I provided one and Facebook blocked it as spam.


   
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(Permalink) Posted: May 24 2020,23:11   

Quote (stevestory @ May 24 2020,16:24)
I was laughing about Bio-Craplexity on Facebook and somebody asked for a link and I provided one and Facebook blocked it as spam.


Last straw for Hormel, I'm sure.

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(Permalink) Posted: May 26 2020,11:47   

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May 26, 2020 at 9:30 am
Jerry –

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The side effects are minimal for HCQ. No one has provided any extensive lethal side effects from using it for C19.



This is just nonsense. That’s exactly what the paper in The Lancet did. There was a higher death rate in people treated with HCQ. It was quite literally extensive (over 6 continents, with thousands of patients), and lethal (more people died).
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Edited by stevestory on May 26 2020,12:47

   
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(Permalink) Posted: May 26 2020,19:46   

Over on the we-know-just-what-the-medical-world-should-do thread:
   
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ET
May 26, 2020 at 5:57 pm
You can treat the flu and covid-19 with the following kit:
Emergen-C- Take 1-2 per day. If symptoms arise take 2 @ a time twice a day

Cell Power- As directed. Increase if symptoms occur

Vitamin D3- take up to 5000 IU’s/ day- this needs to be started months ago so get on it. D is fat soluble.

Quercetin- As directed

ZMA- As directed

Zinc Sulfate- Use to increase total zinc to 90 MG/ day if symptoms arise
That’s the basics.


   
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You can treat the flu and covid-19 with the following kit:

Thanks Dr. Joe. What do you prescribe for Genital warts?


Hahaha

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(Permalink) Posted: May 26 2020,20:09   






   
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(Permalink) Posted: May 27 2020,08:06   

I'm sure this will be news to be assessed at UD:

France bans use of HCQ for covid.

https://www.politico.com/news....-283724

  
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(Permalink) Posted: May 27 2020,09:40   

KF upon hearing the news:


   
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(Permalink) Posted: May 27 2020,10:44   

Did you read the contents of "Cell Power?"

It is water, and maybe a spec or two of a soup stock powder.

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(Permalink) Posted: May 27 2020,13:52   

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Did you read the contents of "Cell Power?"

It is water, and maybe a spec or two of a soup stock powder.

$30/oz is a small price to pay for balancing your body’s ph!  

:p  :D  :)  :p  :D  :)

   
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(Permalink) Posted: May 27 2020,13:55   

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May 27, 2020 at 10:47 am
Nothing more Christian than defaming the dead. Darwin was no more a racist than Lincoln. He and his family were staunch abolitionists. His father- in-law and other in-laws, the famous Wedgwood china and pottery manufacturers, manufactured a special china cameo portraying the cruelties of slavery which was distributed as part of the abolition movement in England.

Intelligent design advocates and other outliers can throw all the self-righteous hissy-fits they want about Darwin, but when it all shakes out, Darwin will be remembered as the brilliant naturalist that he was and ID will just be another irrelevant piece of nonsense rotting on the scrap heap of history.


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(Permalink) Posted: May 27 2020,15:00   

Quote (Dr.GH @ May 27 2020,10:44)
Did you read the contents of "Cell Power?"

It is water, and maybe a spec or two of a soup stock powder.

But it's Chicken Noodle soup - like your mother used to give you when you're ill.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: May 28 2020,05:18   

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May 27, 2020 at 9:24 pm
EG,

I don’t hate Jews. I worship one. I love Jews in general just I as love Christians in general. It’s just that there is a minority among Jews that are not really Jews in the orthodox or OT sense. They’re secular atheists pretending to be Jews as a way to play the victims even though they’re filthy rich and powerful. They make a lot of trouble for the world, starting wars, creating more division and hatred among the races, religions and the sexes, and doing the one thing that they do best, weaving lies and deception. Jesus had a few choice words to say to them, something having to do with Satan. Then he prophesied about the coming destruction of Jerusalem by the Romans. He also sent his Jewish disciples, not to the Jewish people, but to the lost sheep of the House of Israel, the brothers of the Jews who had migrated to Europe.

They can stop their treason and shenanigans anytime they want. We can still be friends.


Some of my best friends are Jews

   
stevestory



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(Permalink) Posted: May 28 2020,09:18   

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May 28, 2020 at 7:51 am
BobRyan,

The only person I’m parroting is Darwin and Descent of Man, because the discussion is Darwin, and I’ve actually read Descent of Man and many of his other works.

I’m not sure what quotes by BA77 you want me to look at. The first quote is Darwin predicting that the genocides going on would continue – but there’s a difference between what one believes is likely to happen, and what one wants to happen. And Darwin’s prediction was based on what he witnessed first-hand when he visited South America, Africa, Australia, and Tasmania – almost every place the Beagle landed he saw genocide in action, and he deplored such action in his writings. And while he believed that it was almost certain that such genocides would continue (based on what had been happening for centuries), as the quote I shared shows, it wasn’t necessarily inevitable.

Here’s the second quote:
“The Western nations of Europe . . . now so immeasurably surpass their former savage progenitors [that they] stand at the summit of civilization. . . . The civilized races of man will almost certainly exterminate and replace the savage races through the world.”

Let’s take a closer look at the second quote and see what was left out:

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“The western nations of Europe, who now so immeasurably surpass their former savage progenitors, and stand at the summit of civilisation, owe little or none of their superiority to direct inheritance from the old Greeks, though they owe much to the written works of that wonderful people.”



In other words, the reason for our “superiority” in civilization is due to culture inheritance – such as books – and owes “little or none” to biological inheritance. Darwin argued that archaeology has shown that Western and Northern Europeans were “savages” just mere centuries ago – a change far too fast to attribute to biology, and so the “rise” is civilization was due to culture. And he argues that modern “savages” can likewise “rise” in civilization if we educate them (and don’t kill them first).
You’ll find that BA77 often leaves out the most interesting parts of quotes.


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(Permalink) Posted: May 28 2020,14:32   

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39 FourFaces May 28, 2020 at 8:27 am

KF @35

Thanks for that reply. I’ll read it carefully and look into the references. Unfortunately, I don’t have much time to devote to this discussion. As an AI researcher, I’ve known for years that the field is almost 100% dominated by atheist Jews and it has been so from the beginning. It’s a good old boy’s network and every one of them is a globalist Christophobe with a deep hatred for the concept of national territory and cultural identity (except their own). I personally call it treason. They go out of their way to create a false antagonism between Christianity and science. Nobody can have a career in Silicon Valley while being openly Christian. And it’s all because of the atheist mindset fostered by the atheist Jews who control the field. As a Christian, I find it insulting. There’s no doubt in my mind that their stranglehold over mainstream media, the high tech industry and education will eventually result in open hostilities and rebellion. They’re pissing off a lot of people. Again, I wish the orthodox Jews did not remain silent on this issue because their atheist brethren are pushing the world to the brink of disaster. May God help us all.
Seig Heil

  
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(Permalink) Posted: May 28 2020,21:15   

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May 28, 2020 at 7:27 pm
KF,

Please stop speaking in tongues and making threats. Put your money where your mouth is and ban me. You’ll be vindicated and I’ll be out of your hair.

SA,

Thank you for that well thought-out reply. I agree that these issues should be discussed but the globalists hate free speech. Anti-Jewish sentiments are growing fast and I wish that the rich and powerful atheist Jews who control so much of Western life would do an about face and stop their subversion of Western Christian nations. It’s still time to avert a major catastrophe. The US is an armed society. Peace is better than out of control hostilities. We can all be friends.
lol

   
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(Permalink) Posted: May 29 2020,09:53   

Quote (stevestory @ May 27 2020,21:52)
Quote (Dr.GH @ May 27 2020,11:44)
Did you read the contents of "Cell Power?"

It is water, and maybe a spec or two of a soup stock powder.

$30/oz is a small price to pay for balancing your body’s ph!  

:p  :D  :)  :p  :D  :)

Not fair this does not machinate with (Sir if he could get on the Queens list) K.F.'s poisons available to hisself but not his enemies at the yatch club on or at some stupid  unimpinged roccky point near said yatch club on his own personal enclave of very tired hormones of no consequence.

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(Permalink) Posted: May 29 2020,09:55   

Repeat          no consequence!

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(Permalink) Posted: May 29 2020,10:04   

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39 FourFaces May 28, 2020 at 8:27 am

KF @35

Thanks for that reply. I’ll read it carefully and look into the references. Unfortunately, I don’t have much time to devote to this discussion. As an AI researcher, I’ve known for years that the field is almost 100% dominated by atheist Jews and it has been so from the beginning. It’s a good old boy’s network and every one of them is a globalist Christophobe with a deep hatred for the concept of national territory and cultural identity (except their own). I personally call it treason. They go out of their way to create a false antagonism between Christianity and science. Nobody can have a career in Silicon Valley while being openly Christian. And it’s all because of the atheist mindset fostered by the atheist Jews who control the field. As a Christian, I find it insulting. There’s no doubt in my mind that their stranglehold over mainstream media, the high tech industry and education will eventually result in open hostilities and rebellion. They’re pissing off a lot of people. Again, I wish the orthodox Jews did not remain silent on this issue because their atheist brethren are pushing the world to the brink of disaster. May God help us all.
Seig Heil

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(Permalink) Posted: May 29 2020,17:21   

Atheist Jews? Isn't that an oxymoron?

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(Permalink) Posted: May 30 2020,06:05   

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Atheist Jews? Isn't that an oxymoron?

Nope. In addition to being a religious thing, "Jewish" is also, unrelatedly, a cultural thing. There are some people who, while culturally Jewish, don't buy into the whole Jehovah deal, and they're atheist Jews.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: May 30 2020,12:55   

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Quote (k.e.. @ May 29 2020,17:21)
Atheist Jews? Isn't that an oxymoron?

Nope. In addition to being a religious thing, "Jewish" is also, unrelatedly, a cultural thing. There are some people who, while culturally Jewish, don't buy into the whole Jehovah deal, and they're atheist Jews.

Cultural Catholics are a thing too.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: June 03 2020,06:13   

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June 2, 2020 at 11:16 pm
Christians have a lot to contribute to this topic whether or not they know it. Human beings are indeed two persons in one. It’s all yin and yang. The two hemispheres are analogous to the Godhead: the Son and the Father. The latter is the master (right hemisphere) and the former is the servant. The left hemisphere is the speaking hemisphere and is analogous to the Son or the Logos. It controls the right side of the body and is analogous to the Son sitting on the right side of the Father (The Lord said to my Lord, sit on my right side). It’s a position of honor and has no biological advantage. In fact, biologically speaking, the crisscrossing of the nerves is an unnecessary complexity.

Seversky, if Michael Egnor believes that the brain has nothing to do with the mind (reference?), he would indeed be mistaken. It takes both the soul and the brain to make a mind. The brain is the seat of intelligence and the soul handles consciousness. And yes, if we are like God, two persons in one, the soul is also a dual entity, one for the left hemisphere and the other for the right hemisphere.

PS. The metaphorical scriptures contain a wealth of “occult” (secret or hidden) information about the brain. It will all come out in due time.

PS 2. Since this is about the Corpus Callosum, did you know that it contains about 200 million fibers. What makes this number interesting is this little verse in the Book of Revelation: “Now the number of the army of the horsemen was two hundred million; I heard the number of them.” Revelation 9:16 Enjoy!


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(Permalink) Posted: June 04 2020,00:39   

Who is FourFaces?  Someone on UD warned that he'd been a troll since USNET days, but didn't name him.  He sounds kinda familiar, but I can't name him?  Can anybody help?

  
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(Permalink) Posted: June 04 2020,08:55   

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Who is FourFaces?  Someone on UD warned that he'd been a troll since USNET days, but didn't name him.  He sounds kinda familiar, but I can't name him?  Can anybody help?

Rumor is it's the nutter Louis Savain AKA Mapou.

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(Permalink) Posted: June 04 2020,11:32   

Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ June 04 2020,03:55)
Quote (CeilingCat @ June 04 2020,00:39)
Who is FourFaces?  Someone on UD warned that he'd been a troll since USNET days, but didn't name him.  He sounds kinda familiar, but I can't name him?  Can anybody help?

Rumor is it's the nutter Louis Savain AKA Mapou.

His personal blog is still viewable. Same crackpot ideas on display.

"Why Space (Distance) Is an Illusion", for instance.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: June 04 2020,12:16   

Space (distance) an illusion? Well, it might be an emergent property, but I wouldn't call it an illusion.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: June 04 2020,15:09   

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Peebles is a gifted theoretical physicist. He is also an agnostic that does not berate religion. To compare him to a cretin like Trump is offensive.


lol

   
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(Permalink) Posted: June 04 2020,15:16   

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he malaria drug hydroxychloroquine did not help prevent people who had been exposed to others with Covid-19 from developing the disease, according to the results of an eagerly awaited study that was published Wednesday in the New England Journal of Medicine.

Despite a lack of evidence, many people began taking the medicine to try to prevent infection early in the Covid-19 pandemic, following anecdotal reports it could be effective and claims by President Trump and conservative commentators. Trump, too, said he took hydroxychloroquine to prevent infection.

But the new study, the first double-blind randomized, placebo-controlled trial of hydroxychloroquine, found otherwise.

“I think in the setting of post-exposure prophylaxis, it doesn’t seem to work,” said Sarah Lofgren, an assistant professor at the University of Minnesota who is a co-author of the study.

Related: Moderna released scant Covid-19 data to prevent a leak, CEO says
Other studies of hydroxychloroquine are ongoing. Also Wednesday, the World Health Organization said it is resuming a clinical trial testing hydroxychloroquine as a treatment after pausing it over safety concerns.

“This is not the end of the story with hydroxychloroquine,” said Ashish Jha, the director of the Harvard Global Health Institute. But given the data, he said, if there is any benefit to giving the drug to prevent infection, “it’s going to be small.”

The same group of researchers is also planning to publish the results of trials testing the drug as a treatment and as a “pre-exposure prophylaxis” — that is, before any exposure to SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes Covid-19.

The latest trial enrolled 821 patients who were either living in the same household as someone with Covid-19 or who were health care workers who had been exposed to someone with Covid-19 without adequate protective gear. While the initial infections had to be confirmed with a diagnostic test, the researchers also counted patients who had symptoms consistent with disease, in part because testing wasn’t available.

Approximately 12% of those given hydroxychloroquine developed Covid-19, compared to 14% who were given the vitamin folate as a placebo. There was no further benefit among patients who chose to take zinc or vitamin C. Nearly 40% of patients on hydroxychloroquine experienced side effects such as nausea, upset stomach, or diarrhea. However, the study did not see a significant increase in disturbances of heart rhythms, or an imbalance of deaths.

Even though the study used the gold standard methodology of conducting clinical research, outside researchers saw significant limitations. The study was conducted in an unusual way: over the internet, without patients being seen by study doctors.

“It just continues to extend the case that the drug is lacking significant efficacy,” said Eric Topol, the director of the Scripps Research Translational Institute. He said that the results are consistent with small randomized trials that were conducted in China and with most observational studies. But while he said that the safety results are encouraging, he worried that the study, because of size and other limitations, might not completely rule out such issues.

but UD commenters said it was a cure!

Edited by stevestory on June 04 2020,16:19

   
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(Permalink) Posted: June 04 2020,15:22   

I wonder if there's a cure for UD?

  
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